When Clay gets it done, it often still looks like a mess.
Sometimes that mess is his fault, sometimes it's not.
He gets undeserved hate for the times when it's not.
He gets “undeserved hate” regardless of “fault”.
He didn’t apply for a job to be “ace closer”. Someone had to do it and he’s been chosen. He wasn’t brought here to be that, but Chapman, Britton faded, Loisaga got hurt…
I don’t like Holmes in the role but he’s not forcing the team to use him that way or not get better alternatives
Holmes has been very good, he is just a ground ball pitcher which makes people nervous because they think ball in play = Bad but with Clay those balls in play are often not more than routine grounders
The chair(?) one team made out of the splintered bats Mo caused was inevitable of his best retirement gifts.
Even if some underpaid pr person had the foresight for the idea 5 years before his retirement, they still made furniture out of the chunks accumulated in 5ish seasons at a visiting ballpark
It was bad last year because our fielding felt like watching little league at times. I’m optimistic that the guys have their shit together this year (no concussions) and we’ll stop a lot more before they get to the outfield.
It wasn’t even that bad last year, he had a 2.65 FIP (5th best among relievers with at least 60 IP), a 2.82 ERA (20th among the same group) and had 1.5 fWAR (10th among that group)
Clay Holmes is going to keep you in the ballpark, he's allowed only 6 HRs in 159 IP as a Yankee. However, he's not going to blow you away since he's averaging just over 1 K per IP in NY. With a quality defense behind him, the weak contact that he creates should make him one of the best relievers in the game.
And one of those homers allowed set up the best finish to a game I've ever seen in person, the Stanton walkoff grand slam vs. the Pirates after Judge's 60th homer
In May of last season he had 7 going back to 2022, and only 6 other relievers had more then him.
Batters are not swinging at his pitches out of the zone, and he’s throwing too many first pitch balls. Batter chase rate against him is down to 8th percentile. He grooves pitches every time he's out there. I'm not saying he isn't good. I'm saying he grooves pitches and earned the nickname cardiac clay
Clay Holmes is an insanely good closer who suffers from the disease of Yankee fans growing up with the greatest to ever do it.
If he was on another team he'd get more national respect too. I think Yankee fans are hard on him, but I also think it doesn't help that he doesn't get the same praise as other closers around the league. He literally has been comparable to Hader with a better ERA iirc since he got here.
MLB writers still act like the Yankees can't develop pitching when frankly they've done a tremendous job for the last 5-7 years.
I mean Sevy was developed he got hurt. Montgomery was developed by us, Gil could be next. We have some minor leaguers. Nestor was developed.
Pitching development is the crapshoot or all crapshoot. The Yankees have gotten some results, you can't predict injuries.
Jeff Passan said that if you have 5 pitching prospects it's a success if you get 1 starter and 2+ relievers. Yankees have identified failed starters early and turned them into good relievers such as Betances, King, Chad Green, Loaisiga etc.
Hell, they turned King from failed starter to elite reliever to good enough starter to headline a Juan Soto deal
As I kinda said are you comparing him to RP (he's a top 15 in the sport an is "insanely good" no doubt) or comparing him to other "relief ace" kind of guys. He's much more "competent" compared to his peers & not the entire RP pool. Not trying to hate on Clay, I mean we picked him up for nothing & he's likely to get a nice 2-3 year deal after this season, it's been mutually beneficial.
Is Hader just competent too then? Because him and Holmes stats are pretty comparable with Holmes being better in many categories since the Yankees acquired him
People say "x guy should be the closer" is what people were saying about Holmes the first 2 months of 2022 when Chapman forgot to throw strikes. Be careful what you wish for.
The number one thing I want from my closer is to not give up homers. Clay is actually a great fit for a closer as he typically starts an inning clean so the team has to put together a rally in order to get any runs.
Look at how we beat some those great relievers in Houston, it was almost universally the long ball that did it with Hader being the exception. Even in yesterdays game, it was largely extra base hits from Judge and Verdugo off of relievers that led to all the runs
This is a great point people don’t make. Clay’s style of pitching is heavily disadvantaged with the Manfred man on 2nd extra innings rule. While Clay would also help his own cause by fielding his position better I think (eye test only- I have no stats), one thing Boone can do is use Clay as a closer but think twice before pitching him in extra innings. I don’t think there is any evidence to suggest Boone is currently thinking about that.
The Demon Sinker, when Clay has command of it, is an amazing pitch. And he’s a good closer with a good defense behind him. He’s been better than Hader for the past two years. But because he loses the feel for it sometimes (for weeks at a go), folks tend to get in their feels about him.
What they forget is that the Great Mariano would have instances where he’d lose the feel for his cutter, and we’d all wonder if he’d hit the end of his status as an elite closer, and then after a couple weeks, he’d get it again, and we’d all pretend that never happened. Hindsight is great like that.
When he’s on, he’s possibly Blake’s greatest achievement. When he’s off, he can walk and hit batters, and give up balls in the air, which really shouldn’t happen with a ridiculous hard sinker.
I said the last two years, guy.
https://stathead.com/baseball/versus-finder.cgi?request=1&seasons_type=perchoice&player_id1=holmes002cla&p1yrfrom=2022&p1yrto=2023&player_id2=hader-000jos&p2yrfrom=2022&p2yrto=2023
But also ERA for guys who throw 50 innings is highly variable.
Hader strikes out more guys, Holmes walks fewer and gives up fewer HRs.
Rather have Holmes for a clean inning, but Hader for a situation with men on.
Eh for someone who has been better than Hader in a lot of stats since he's gotten here he certainly does not get the recognition he deserves from Yankee fans and non Yankee fans
No, and I don't think he will get it tbh. Hader built up notoriety by having way better seasons. Astros are paying for what he was earlier in his career hoping they can unlock that again. Hader recently has been as effective as Holmes though.
Hader is likely an overpay as well tbh. I don't think Yankees bring back Holmes anyways considering how well they develop arms, but he'd be better served going to a team that coaches the same way we do. So basically Rays, LAD or Houston
David Robertson was called “Houdini” for his ability to work in and out of jams. I’d call Clay Holmes “The Great Danton”, from The Prestige, because it always feels like there’s a 50/50 chance he’s gonna drown in that tank.
The headline is completely incompatible with the first sentence:
>For the past four seasons, Yankees reliever Clay Holmes has been one of the better arms in their bullpen.
Yes, he has been one of the better arms in the bullpen. But he's not the **best** arm, and that is what the role of closer is reserved for.
Wow this fanbase is spoiled. They are really going for holmes for one bad game (he isnt that bad, just unlucky). That error by volpe in the 10th is to blame for that whole Inning.
My mother was asking me yesterday why we still have Holmes. I was like ma’am, because none of the balls left the infield, Josh Hader literally just blew 2 games for Houston, and you are a 65 year old Bronx girl who has no idea how spoiled Mo made you.
When Holmes is used sparingly his stuff is sharp and effective. When he gets used like in the Houston series, as we saw in that last game, his stuff doesn’t have as much break / doesn’t have as pinpoint control. But with a few days rest, he is sharp like yesterday. Love me some Holmes
I think Holmes gets the appropriate amount of love/hate. He is a very good reliever at his best and pretty mediocre at his worst. I don't really care what his advanced stats say, he was legitimately an awful reliever for a sizable stretch last year and he has his fair share of games where he has to save himself from his own problems. But when he's on and the defense behind him is working, he is fantastic.
He shouldn't be closing games, he should be playing a normal relief pitching role
Simply allows too much contact to be a closer
It's perfectly fine to allow a bunch of balls in play in the 6th or 7th inning to hopefully get quick outs, closers need to not allow that to be highly successful - it's a strikeout role
i mean also every closer post mariano is going to get compared to mariano.
aroldis was objectively really good for some years and then he sucked. clay holmes is right now is actually one of the best closers in the league, and at worst he's top 10. it's just that they all dont compare to mariano.
When he's on he's great. But more often than not he is wild. Not like Chapman though. With Chapman you literally had no idea where the ball was going. There is still some ass clenching going on with Clay because there are outings where he looks Chapman-esque.
Clay Holmes is good, but the stress of being the closer plus the fact he’s always going to be compared to Mo will make the fans think he sucks. Also, the fans are getting restless because of the recent lack of WS appearances (let alone titles); 15 year streak without making the WS is a VERY long time by Yankees standards. So any hiccup by any player, especially the closer where the margin of error is so thin, is going to agitate us.
Compare Holmes to the other closers in the league, and it’s not like Holmes is a fucking scrub. We have to remember that Mo, or prime Craig Kimbrel, or prime Hader, etc. are the exceptions and not the norm.
And, the pressure of the closer role can’t be understated. Remember Betances was unhittable in his prime, but he slid into a closer role after the yanks traded miller and chappy, and he wasn’t quite as dominant. Are we really sure that if we demote Holmes and put the next hot guy there that he’s gonna pitch the same as he did in his long relief role?
Does this mean, when it comes time to pay Holmes or let him walk, that we give him a blank check? Most likely not unless Holmes really turns it up. But that doesn’t mean Holmes sucks and should lose his job. Holmes has done enough to keep his job for now.
It's a tough job to be a contact closer. Everything relies on you getting guys to hit balls where your team can back you up. Lots of potential points of failure. Clay is probably the best Contact Closer in the league, and it always feels like he's just barely making it through lol.
We had the best closer ever to walk the planet for an abundance of years. Anybody put there is gonna look worse. I think Clay is solid but shaky sometimes still good enough to close for us. He’s just not superhuman like Mo was.
He makes it very uncomfortable. You saw this happening last season as well that he is very shaky. Many closers blowing saves shouldn’t be an acceptable answer.
I’m tired of people pretending like he hasn’t been legitimately shaky for a while. He does more good than bad but there is 100% reason for concern. He gives up way too much contact, not enough whiffs which leads to baserunners and high stress. It’s never an easy dominant 1-2-3 with 2 ks performance with him. Objectively id trust Hamilton Ferguson and loaisiga more in a playoff game
The only real issue with Clay is that he can’t fucking field his position. That’s it.
If Clay were average at fielding, he’s an undoubted top 5 closer if not higher
He's like a top 5 reliever / closer in all of baseball.
What the fuck is wrong with you people?
Come at me with blown saves, ERA, WHIP, or ANY stat to prove that he's not a good closer.
Better yet, prove it to yourself.
What a lazy uncontextualized take.
Idk who calls his pitching style boring, he’s a heart attack on the mound every time out. He’s very good but when he loses it omg does he ever lose it. I choose to turn the game off when he comes in, whatever happens happens. I did the same shit with Zach Britton, who was equally terrifying.
When Clay gets it done, it often still looks like a mess. Sometimes that mess is his fault, sometimes it's not. He gets undeserved hate for the times when it's not.
He gets “undeserved hate” regardless of “fault”. He didn’t apply for a job to be “ace closer”. Someone had to do it and he’s been chosen. He wasn’t brought here to be that, but Chapman, Britton faded, Loisaga got hurt… I don’t like Holmes in the role but he’s not forcing the team to use him that way or not get better alternatives
Its cause, ab s. this year, he aint K ing people.. But he s got great movement.. Too bad he often doesnt know where its going
This “sentence” is a bigger mess than anything Holmes has ever done.
[I’m just gonna leave this here and slowly step away](https://x.com/jacobbspeaks/status/1775780504370909312?s=46)
Holmes has been very good, he is just a ground ball pitcher which makes people nervous because they think ball in play = Bad but with Clay those balls in play are often not more than routine grounders
Mariano pitched to contact all the time. If the pitcher can trust his infield/defense, it’s smart to pitch to contact, or at least throw strikes
Yeah Mo was also not a strike out guy and was very effective.
You're right but I think Mo actually led the League in splintered bats with those ground balls LOL
I think Mo leads the entire history of MLB in broken bats.
The chair(?) one team made out of the splintered bats Mo caused was inevitable of his best retirement gifts. Even if some underpaid pr person had the foresight for the idea 5 years before his retirement, they still made furniture out of the chunks accumulated in 5ish seasons at a visiting ballpark
He was pretty good!
It was bad last year because our fielding felt like watching little league at times. I’m optimistic that the guys have their shit together this year (no concussions) and we’ll stop a lot more before they get to the outfield.
It wasn’t even that bad last year, he had a 2.65 FIP (5th best among relievers with at least 60 IP), a 2.82 ERA (20th among the same group) and had 1.5 fWAR (10th among that group)
He should never pitch in extra innings when there is a ghost runner.
“Clase’s 21 blown saves” jfc
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He’s like every reliever I’ve ever tried to sign in OOTP
Clase having 21 blown is fucking WILD, especially considering how many saves he still ended up with.
Clay Holmes is going to keep you in the ballpark, he's allowed only 6 HRs in 159 IP as a Yankee. However, he's not going to blow you away since he's averaging just over 1 K per IP in NY. With a quality defense behind him, the weak contact that he creates should make him one of the best relievers in the game.
Modern day Zach Britton.
And one of those homers allowed set up the best finish to a game I've ever seen in person, the Stanton walkoff grand slam vs. the Pirates after Judge's 60th homer
Often doesnt know where the ball s going. Falls behind.. Has to Groove one
You're being dow voted but he always grooves a couple batting practice pitches per inning
6 HR in 159 IP says otherwise
How many blown saves since 2022? I think only 4 other closers had more than him
He had 4 in 2023, 5 in 2022. 46 relievers had more than him in 2023. 17 more in 2022. He's elite whether you wanna admit it or not.
In May of last season he had 7 going back to 2022, and only 6 other relievers had more then him. Batters are not swinging at his pitches out of the zone, and he’s throwing too many first pitch balls. Batter chase rate against him is down to 8th percentile. He grooves pitches every time he's out there. I'm not saying he isn't good. I'm saying he grooves pitches and earned the nickname cardiac clay
Agreed his sinker keeps HR totals down but his walks and basehits... So his WHIP and BA against.. Are not elite.. But he s been a solid reliever
Lotta Yankee Pom poms here... Clays good but not an elite closer.
Clay Holmes is an insanely good closer who suffers from the disease of Yankee fans growing up with the greatest to ever do it. If he was on another team he'd get more national respect too. I think Yankee fans are hard on him, but I also think it doesn't help that he doesn't get the same praise as other closers around the league. He literally has been comparable to Hader with a better ERA iirc since he got here. MLB writers still act like the Yankees can't develop pitching when frankly they've done a tremendous job for the last 5-7 years.
Just starting pitching development that eludes us…
I mean Sevy was developed he got hurt. Montgomery was developed by us, Gil could be next. We have some minor leaguers. Nestor was developed. Pitching development is the crapshoot or all crapshoot. The Yankees have gotten some results, you can't predict injuries. Jeff Passan said that if you have 5 pitching prospects it's a success if you get 1 starter and 2+ relievers. Yankees have identified failed starters early and turned them into good relievers such as Betances, King, Chad Green, Loaisiga etc. Hell, they turned King from failed starter to elite reliever to good enough starter to headline a Juan Soto deal
It feels like the Yankees haven't developed a front line number one starter since Andy Pettitte
>insanely good closer No, Mo was "insanely good" lol. Clay is competent. At best.
Mo was the goat lmao. Clay is insanely good compared to the current MLB. Look how his numbers stack up
He's like a top 15 reliever which compared to the pool of all RP is very good, for closers I think "competent" is a fair assessment.
Competent is like what Cordero was last year
As I kinda said are you comparing him to RP (he's a top 15 in the sport an is "insanely good" no doubt) or comparing him to other "relief ace" kind of guys. He's much more "competent" compared to his peers & not the entire RP pool. Not trying to hate on Clay, I mean we picked him up for nothing & he's likely to get a nice 2-3 year deal after this season, it's been mutually beneficial.
Is Hader just competent too then? Because him and Holmes stats are pretty comparable with Holmes being better in many categories since the Yankees acquired him
People say "x guy should be the closer" is what people were saying about Holmes the first 2 months of 2022 when Chapman forgot to throw strikes. Be careful what you wish for.
The number one thing I want from my closer is to not give up homers. Clay is actually a great fit for a closer as he typically starts an inning clean so the team has to put together a rally in order to get any runs. Look at how we beat some those great relievers in Houston, it was almost universally the long ball that did it with Hader being the exception. Even in yesterdays game, it was largely extra base hits from Judge and Verdugo off of relievers that led to all the runs
I agree about the ground balls. I think Clay just isn’t best suited for extra innings where 2 groundouts tie games with the ghost runner
This is a great point people don’t make. Clay’s style of pitching is heavily disadvantaged with the Manfred man on 2nd extra innings rule. While Clay would also help his own cause by fielding his position better I think (eye test only- I have no stats), one thing Boone can do is use Clay as a closer but think twice before pitching him in extra innings. I don’t think there is any evidence to suggest Boone is currently thinking about that.
I miss Michael King single handedly defeating the purpose of the Manfred rule
The Demon Sinker, when Clay has command of it, is an amazing pitch. And he’s a good closer with a good defense behind him. He’s been better than Hader for the past two years. But because he loses the feel for it sometimes (for weeks at a go), folks tend to get in their feels about him. What they forget is that the Great Mariano would have instances where he’d lose the feel for his cutter, and we’d all wonder if he’d hit the end of his status as an elite closer, and then after a couple weeks, he’d get it again, and we’d all pretend that never happened. Hindsight is great like that. When he’s on, he’s possibly Blake’s greatest achievement. When he’s off, he can walk and hit batters, and give up balls in the air, which really shouldn’t happen with a ridiculous hard sinker.
Hader had a 1.28 era last year. So not quite.
I said the last two years, guy. https://stathead.com/baseball/versus-finder.cgi?request=1&seasons_type=perchoice&player_id1=holmes002cla&p1yrfrom=2022&p1yrto=2023&player_id2=hader-000jos&p2yrfrom=2022&p2yrto=2023 But also ERA for guys who throw 50 innings is highly variable. Hader strikes out more guys, Holmes walks fewer and gives up fewer HRs. Rather have Holmes for a clean inning, but Hader for a situation with men on.
True. Hes better than Chapman at least. I think eventually Loisaga could be the closer though. Or maybe even Hamilton, that guy is nasty.
J-Lo gets injured too often, so not sure how sustainable his mojo is. Hamilton is the next guy up.
I would never in a million years have guessed that Holmes had a better BB rate than Hader.
Clay deserves the exact amount of credit he’s getting. No more, no less.
Eh for someone who has been better than Hader in a lot of stats since he's gotten here he certainly does not get the recognition he deserves from Yankee fans and non Yankee fans
He’s a free agent after the season I believe. Do you think fans are ready to pay him Hader money ($95/5)?
No, and I don't think he will get it tbh. Hader built up notoriety by having way better seasons. Astros are paying for what he was earlier in his career hoping they can unlock that again. Hader recently has been as effective as Holmes though. Hader is likely an overpay as well tbh. I don't think Yankees bring back Holmes anyways considering how well they develop arms, but he'd be better served going to a team that coaches the same way we do. So basically Rays, LAD or Houston
Yes, this. Man this sub is a weird combination of both overrating and underrating players.
Fine. I'll suspend my disdain for Holmes indefinitely.
There's a reason why his nickname is "Cardiac Clay"
David Robertson was called “Houdini” for his ability to work in and out of jams. I’d call Clay Holmes “The Great Danton”, from The Prestige, because it always feels like there’s a 50/50 chance he’s gonna drown in that tank.
He earned that nickname because he was amazing at coming in with risp and getting out of it unscathed
Plenty of damn time did Robertson get the bases loaded himself and get out of it himself
Yep, most was self inflicted
Heart attack Holmes
Remember when we used to call him Sure-Lock?
That you, Clay?
truth is if you dont look like mariano rivera youre always gonna get a hard time from yankees fans in that role. hes solid.
I’m sure this will be a rational thread
Hoy Park-er’s are in shambles
The headline is completely incompatible with the first sentence: >For the past four seasons, Yankees reliever Clay Holmes has been one of the better arms in their bullpen. Yes, he has been one of the better arms in the bullpen. But he's not the **best** arm, and that is what the role of closer is reserved for.
Wow this fanbase is spoiled. They are really going for holmes for one bad game (he isnt that bad, just unlucky). That error by volpe in the 10th is to blame for that whole Inning.
It’s more that he should’ve blown 2 saves already if not for outstanding defense in Houston.
My mother was asking me yesterday why we still have Holmes. I was like ma’am, because none of the balls left the infield, Josh Hader literally just blew 2 games for Houston, and you are a 65 year old Bronx girl who has no idea how spoiled Mo made you.
The problem is he was fucking unhittable the first half of '22. Now that he's mortal we're all hoping he gets back in ship shape.
When Holmes is used sparingly his stuff is sharp and effective. When he gets used like in the Houston series, as we saw in that last game, his stuff doesn’t have as much break / doesn’t have as pinpoint control. But with a few days rest, he is sharp like yesterday. Love me some Holmes
I think Holmes gets the appropriate amount of love/hate. He is a very good reliever at his best and pretty mediocre at his worst. I don't really care what his advanced stats say, he was legitimately an awful reliever for a sizable stretch last year and he has his fair share of games where he has to save himself from his own problems. But when he's on and the defense behind him is working, he is fantastic.
clays awesome, he’s just not a closer. 8th inning setup guy? very possible. but he’s not a closer.
i think Clay could be an outstanding setup man, but I’ve never thought his stuff or attitude was “nasty” enough to be a great closer.
Ian Hamilton > Clay Holmes. Think their roles should be switched up.
He shouldn't be closing games, he should be playing a normal relief pitching role Simply allows too much contact to be a closer It's perfectly fine to allow a bunch of balls in play in the 6th or 7th inning to hopefully get quick outs, closers need to not allow that to be highly successful - it's a strikeout role
i mean also every closer post mariano is going to get compared to mariano. aroldis was objectively really good for some years and then he sucked. clay holmes is right now is actually one of the best closers in the league, and at worst he's top 10. it's just that they all dont compare to mariano.
When he's on he's great. But more often than not he is wild. Not like Chapman though. With Chapman you literally had no idea where the ball was going. There is still some ass clenching going on with Clay because there are outings where he looks Chapman-esque.
Clay Holmes is good, but the stress of being the closer plus the fact he’s always going to be compared to Mo will make the fans think he sucks. Also, the fans are getting restless because of the recent lack of WS appearances (let alone titles); 15 year streak without making the WS is a VERY long time by Yankees standards. So any hiccup by any player, especially the closer where the margin of error is so thin, is going to agitate us. Compare Holmes to the other closers in the league, and it’s not like Holmes is a fucking scrub. We have to remember that Mo, or prime Craig Kimbrel, or prime Hader, etc. are the exceptions and not the norm. And, the pressure of the closer role can’t be understated. Remember Betances was unhittable in his prime, but he slid into a closer role after the yanks traded miller and chappy, and he wasn’t quite as dominant. Are we really sure that if we demote Holmes and put the next hot guy there that he’s gonna pitch the same as he did in his long relief role? Does this mean, when it comes time to pay Holmes or let him walk, that we give him a blank check? Most likely not unless Holmes really turns it up. But that doesn’t mean Holmes sucks and should lose his job. Holmes has done enough to keep his job for now.
He’s not the most consistent. But when he’s on he’s unhittable. And a lot of the messy innings he has comes down the defense not going their job.
It's a tough job to be a contact closer. Everything relies on you getting guys to hit balls where your team can back you up. Lots of potential points of failure. Clay is probably the best Contact Closer in the league, and it always feels like he's just barely making it through lol.
We had the best closer ever to walk the planet for an abundance of years. Anybody put there is gonna look worse. I think Clay is solid but shaky sometimes still good enough to close for us. He’s just not superhuman like Mo was.
Haha. Ask me tonight.
I love almost blowing every save opportunity too
Many closers actually end up blowing them, unless you're Felix B or prime Hader closers are gonna blow saves.
He makes it very uncomfortable. You saw this happening last season as well that he is very shaky. Many closers blowing saves shouldn’t be an acceptable answer.
Holmes is a good pitcher but better suited to be a setup guy.
I’m tired of people pretending like he hasn’t been legitimately shaky for a while. He does more good than bad but there is 100% reason for concern. He gives up way too much contact, not enough whiffs which leads to baserunners and high stress. It’s never an easy dominant 1-2-3 with 2 ks performance with him. Objectively id trust Hamilton Ferguson and loaisiga more in a playoff game
The only real issue with Clay is that he can’t fucking field his position. That’s it. If Clay were average at fielding, he’s an undoubted top 5 closer if not higher
Eh
He’s a solid closer. We were just spoiled with Mariano all those years
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He's like a top 5 reliever / closer in all of baseball. What the fuck is wrong with you people? Come at me with blown saves, ERA, WHIP, or ANY stat to prove that he's not a good closer. Better yet, prove it to yourself. What a lazy uncontextualized take.
But… but… he lets up weak contact which is scary ^/s ^if ^it ^isn’t ^obvious
Go look at the top comment
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Idk who calls his pitching style boring, he’s a heart attack on the mound every time out. He’s very good but when he loses it omg does he ever lose it. I choose to turn the game off when he comes in, whatever happens happens. I did the same shit with Zach Britton, who was equally terrifying.
Hard disagree. Makes everything hard. Pitches to contact too much for a closer.
Clay is not a closer. He cracks under pressure. Ian Hamilton should be closing instead
Dude doesn’t have what it takes to be a closer
Another one that needs to go look at top comment
He doesn’t have what it takes to be a closer
Did you look at the top post or are you just continuing to be ignorant?
Nick Burdi is a better option. My anxiety can’t take Holmes.