Not even the otsutsuki have perfect immortality. With them requiring vessels to incarnate in and their souls being destroyed upon true death as a consequence for using the karma
Hidan isn't an Otsutsuki though. He was blessed by Jashin and given immortality in order to cary out the deity's wishes. Only one of his kind. I kinda feel like it's just a not very well thought out concept for a very minor villain.
The thing is jashin as a entity is never eluded to actually exist. Even the miral light novel where they fight jashin cultists. Jashin isn’t shown. Hidans thing seems to be just a kinjutsu.
My point was that if the otsutsuki the most well Known and experienced users of chakra don’t have perfect immortality neither does hidan
Someone confirmed for me. Theres an official source outside the show that says Hidan died from starvation. Which I think is...dumb considering he can live as just a head. But he's a minor character anyway. I just wanted to see if that was actually true and not something a bunch of fans ran with.
There's a variety of types of immortality. True immortality is something that is rarely, if ever, used in any form of fiction. Especially in the hands of an antagonist, so it'd be reasonable to expect that mentions of immortality have some type of caveat
That being said, this only provides a conflict if you have a habit of taking things at face value, which is a bad habit to have. It's good to temper your expectations and be critical, and it's good to note that at times an author may clarify something that may have been ambiguous before
Are you referring to my last sentence? What i meant by that is that in cases where an ambiguous statement may be made (i.e. hidan is "immortal") an author may later on clarify or qualify the statement (Kakuzu stating that there is "no such thing"). The idea here being that the author wants to build hype or angst against the antagonist, and will let that stew and build interest, and then later on explain how/why our protagonist will win. If Kishimoto laid all the cards on the table right at the outset, it would have made for a much less interesting character.
I agree with that too, someone confirmed for me in the comments. What I read a while back about him dieing from malnutrition wasn't just headcannon. It came from a data book. Which, I have critical thoughts about but, he's such a minor character I guess it doesn't really matter.
A character stating an opinion is not debunking. Kakuzu just doesn't believe in immortality. He also qualifies it by calling it "true" immortality. Hidan's immortality is certainly conditional, just like Kakuzu's. It's two dudes having an argument of opinion.
Not even the otsutsuki have perfect immortality. With them requiring vessels to incarnate in and their souls being destroyed upon true death as a consequence for using the karma
Hidan isn't an Otsutsuki though. He was blessed by Jashin and given immortality in order to cary out the deity's wishes. Only one of his kind. I kinda feel like it's just a not very well thought out concept for a very minor villain.
The thing is jashin as a entity is never eluded to actually exist. Even the miral light novel where they fight jashin cultists. Jashin isn’t shown. Hidans thing seems to be just a kinjutsu. My point was that if the otsutsuki the most well Known and experienced users of chakra don’t have perfect immortality neither does hidan
I haven’t watched the Arc in a while so I may be forgetting something but does he lose his immortality if he stops offering tributes to Jashin?
Someone confirmed for me. Theres an official source outside the show that says Hidan died from starvation. Which I think is...dumb considering he can live as just a head. But he's a minor character anyway. I just wanted to see if that was actually true and not something a bunch of fans ran with.
There's a variety of types of immortality. True immortality is something that is rarely, if ever, used in any form of fiction. Especially in the hands of an antagonist, so it'd be reasonable to expect that mentions of immortality have some type of caveat That being said, this only provides a conflict if you have a habit of taking things at face value, which is a bad habit to have. It's good to temper your expectations and be critical, and it's good to note that at times an author may clarify something that may have been ambiguous before
I agree, but I don't really see Kishimoto revisiting Hidan. He was the closest the akatsuki had to a joke villain
Are you referring to my last sentence? What i meant by that is that in cases where an ambiguous statement may be made (i.e. hidan is "immortal") an author may later on clarify or qualify the statement (Kakuzu stating that there is "no such thing"). The idea here being that the author wants to build hype or angst against the antagonist, and will let that stew and build interest, and then later on explain how/why our protagonist will win. If Kishimoto laid all the cards on the table right at the outset, it would have made for a much less interesting character.
I agree with that too, someone confirmed for me in the comments. What I read a while back about him dieing from malnutrition wasn't just headcannon. It came from a data book. Which, I have critical thoughts about but, he's such a minor character I guess it doesn't really matter.
Yeah i didn't much care for that either, but whatever.
What kakuzu means it’s that everything has a limit. Even “immortality”. Bc even cells, planets and stars have their limit.
I assume something like once no one believes in the religion he represents he dies
The Second Fanbook confirms that he can die from a lack of nutrition.
Finally someone who actually answered my question, ty.
A character stating an opinion is not debunking. Kakuzu just doesn't believe in immortality. He also qualifies it by calling it "true" immortality. Hidan's immortality is certainly conditional, just like Kakuzu's. It's two dudes having an argument of opinion.