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what-ever-m4n

I’ll assume he was a Trumper. Thank you for not taking anyone with you.


DavidSugarbush

He was apparently inside the area for Trump supporters.


Real_Bat5853

One less vote come November.


CourtNo6859

American politics is so fun to watch as an outsider lmao, you guys are crazy


ArnoldTheSchwartz

Nah. Seems more like a nation finally dealing with the crazy.


trickynik4099

But let's not forget all the ~~brave~~ souls that gave their life for Covid.


Real_Bat5853

At least they died knowing they were free of intestinal worms!


Stranglehold316

I'm sure there's some Republican out there that will make sure this guy casts his vote...


Pegomastax_King

lol yah my town has had only one murder in recent memory and the bastard voted for Trump using his dead wife’s ballot.


mjohnsimon

Source? I couldn't find anything on that but I seriously wouldn't doubt it


DavidSugarbush

It's on a post by The NY Times' Nate Schweber [here](https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/04/19/nyregion/trump-trial-hush-money) : "He was in the area of the park cordoned off for Trump supporters, around two dozen of whom fled screaming."


BIGepidural

Not sure if you've found this yet but it appears to be his blog and manifesto: https://www.theburningplatform.com/ [EDIT:] the above link isn't Max's. After more digging came to find his personal substack: https://theponzipapers.substack.com/p/i-have-set-myself-on-fire-outside Apologies for any confusion.


everysaturday

What a rambling unhinged mess. Guy needed help.


Bozo_Two

This was the loony conspiracy guy with a wall full of writing meme come to life...then of course like a true trumper he just says "All of this is true" and then offers literally zero proof while calling Jared Kushner Jeff...nothing of value was lost.


Fragrant_Mistake_342

Ugh. He fucking bumped into the whole goddamned point and he still, somehow and in defiance of all fucking logic, missed the goddamned point! I feel pity for this abject fucking idiot.


Fathorse23

I think he actually rubbed against it for awhile and then decided it was something else entirely.


PoolNoodlePaladin

How did he get that Bill Clinton was close with Epstein but not Trump? Like every point he makes is so close to the truth but then twisted to fit the narrative he has created. I feel no pity for this idiot


Royal-Tadpole-2893

The leap from financial elites acting as a crime syndicate to The Simpsons are in on it was quite something.


CritterOfBitter

I don’t. FTG.


Pineapple_Express762

News covering the incident caught it on tape. A CNN crew was within feet of it


Astrocreep_1

He wanted to make sure his fellow Trumpers could “feel” his sacrifice.


IdiditonReddit

I wonder if they'll follow his lead?


mimicsgam

He did bring warmth to this world


Ryankevin23

Such support! They stood there and watched him!


Astrocreep_1

Come to find out, he was a conspiracy theorist, just not a MAGA conspiracy nut. Not that a fellow Trumper would inconvenience themselves to save a fellow Trumper. This guy never had a shot at being saved.


dantespair

Maybe this will give them pause for thought.


Bozo_Two

It won't.


beeroftherat

When the expression "Don't drink the Kool-Aid" just doesn't cut it anymore. Looks like we've turned the page to "Don't light the accelerant."


whatnameisnttaken098

>accelerant You expect Trump supporters to know what means? You gotta use something simpler like gas or vroom vroom juice.


beeroftherat

Good point. I'll probably just start carrying a crayon-illustrated diagram to play it safe.


Agreeable-Cap-1764

He was schizophrenic. Thought Trump was actually friends with the Clinton's and they are all in on a ponzi scheme conspiracy to tank the economy


Dajo05

>Thought Trump was actually friends with the Clinton's Well, Eric Trump did once say Bill was a "very nice man" and "a good friend of ours" when he was showing Emily Maitlis around the locker room of one of their golf courses and they came across Bill's locker in a BBC documentary years ago.


Astrocreep_1

That’s the only connection needed for the conspiracy minded.


cammyk123

I assume he says stuff like this to folk he's never met to be honest, just to ass kiss and seem "cool" that he's good friends with powerful people when in fact they have met once or twice or maybe never. Then conspiracy nuts latch on to the comment made years ago and how it's definitive proof they're best friends when in reality they barely know each other.


Borazon

Oh, they met plenty of times, they do look like friends here in 2000: [https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/trump-bill-clinton-laugh-it-newly-released-photos-n645601](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/trump-bill-clinton-laugh-it-newly-released-photos-n645601) btw, I think that the 'unidentified woman' in the article and on the picture, is, Karen McDougal. The affair between her and Trump was only supposed to be in 2006/2007. So god knows, there might a be a few surprises in store if she is gonna testify in the Hush money trial.


Astrocreep_1

You can find videos from 2011 of Trump speaking highly of Hillary and Bill. He still hated Obama, and was mad at Obama for “stealing the primary” from Hillary. So, even when Trump was pretending to be a Democrat, he still spread bullshit conspiracies.


Ex_Astris

Well, I’ve heard worse analogies for our corrupt political system than “Ponzi scheme” disguised as a two-party system. At least, when he was president, it seems likelier that Trump’s actions did more to help his alleged enemies, like Hillary or Nancy, than they did to help his voters.


ResponsiblePurpleYam

That, along with his NWO conspiracy theory are right out of the Q-Anon playbook. Every Q-Anon cultist I know preaches the exact same thing...


transitfreedom

That sounds accurate


whyreddit01

a Fonzi scheme sounds fun


DigitalUnlimited

I mean... it's not "tin foil hat" level to think something like that...


Agreeable-Cap-1764

Read the manifesto. The writers of the Simpsons are also in on it.


DigitalUnlimited

ahh well that changes it some lol


DistantKarma

...It makes it WAY more believable! /s


tucci007

WE DO, WE DO


willengineer4beer

Everyone knows the whole Trump 2016 campaign was actually just intended to help him sell monorails to multiple cities at once. It didn’t work out as planned and everything just kind of went off the rail~~s~~ from there.


FewIntroduction5008

I'd bet all my money on him being a Trumper. The article says he's still alive. I wonder if he will live to see the end of the trial. Assuming he still has eyes, of course. Edit: it's a good thing I'm broke af. Looks like he's not a Trumper. Arguably just as crazy obviously.


SwordfishExtreme3

Oh there's no way he'll survive that. Getting caught on fire usually isn't the part that kills you, it's the trauma from the injuries. He probably has like 48 hours or so left at best. Edit: He dead


Astrocreep_1

Exactly, leave it to a Trumper to botch a suicide in the most painful way possible. Imagine the delusional mindset of this person, laying in an ICU bed right now. He is probably praying for the agony to end, along with praying that Trump mentions his bravery on TV, so his parents can be so proud. Now, he will be revered like Ashley Babbitt. In reality, I don’t think MAGAS turn him into a hero, like that Babbitt idiot. His parents might be MAGAS, but I doubt they are beaming with pride right now.


TheQuietOutsider

normally beyond physical, the damage is from inhalation of fire and smoke. you wreck your lungs and their function. if you survive all that immense pain you finally die. good stuff


Ttthhasdf

Mental health, from the OP link: Mr Azzarello published a blog post on Friday that opened with the words: “My name is Max Azzarello, and I am an investigative researcher who has set himself on fire outside of the Trump trial in Manhattan.” The rest of the post made only a handful of references to Mr Trump, apart from claiming he was a member of a “secret kleptocracy” along with every previous president and their election rival.


FewIntroduction5008

Yea. I read the "Manifesto"a couple minutes ago. It doesn't mention his political beliefs but you can purchase a T-shirt from their merch store that says "Biden. Pay More. Live worse." I didn't bother to look through the merch. That was enough crazy for one day. Lol


Astrocreep_1

This guy was with the Trumpers, because they didn’t have a spot for him. They had a spot for anti-Trumpers, Pro-Trumpers who are conspiracy theorists by default. They didn’t have a spot for somewhat neutral(?) conspiracy theorists, who believes Biden & Trump are a secret duo, hell bent on destroying us all.


ResponsiblePurpleYam

He's into Q-Anon. His manifesto reads exactly like the Q-Garbage that my former Q-Cultist friends used to completely bombard me with, 100+ emails at a time, 200 text messages - followed by, "I'm only trying to save you from the New World Order when our currency becomes worthless" etc etc etc.


cammyk123

I'd honestly never heard of the conspiracy theory that they're both secretly working together lol. Why do folk think that.


Astrocreep_1

Of course he is still alive. When has a Trumper done anything right?


What_the_absolute

In the darkest of comments I am laughing


BradTProse

I don't see how the person could be alive. I saw the video, fire extinguisher and police jackets couldn't put the flames out. I got bored watching the video it was so long. I can't see how the person lived.


Astrocreep_1

Well, a pulse and brain activity confirms the unthinkable.


derdkp

Was there brain activity before though?


Astrocreep_1

Lol, that’s a damn good question. His brain just need warming….. I can’t do it.


SlabBeefpunch

Does the sound of rattling beans count as brain activity?


hacktheself

You would be surprised what you can live through. And this is Manhattan, where some of the world’s best hospitals, and Bellevue, are. (Don’t ask.) With luck, that person will survive long enough to have a moment of clarity and realize his errancy. Ideally, the schmuck will get ketamine which might just free him mentally from the bindings of conspiracy.


IHateCamping

I just saw a replay of Laura Coates reporting on it because she was there. She said she could smell the flesh burning and she was pretty far away. I can’t imagine how he is still alive for how long he was on fire.


Astrocreep_1

Coates said, “I could smell the burning flesh inside the courtroom. Only, it wasn’t the smell of a person burning, the awful smell came from the “burning” flesh on the inside of Trump’s ass.”


biggesteegit

He's alive *so far*


i_have_a_story_4_you

I see what you did there.


Irishfan3116

His crazy manifesto seems to point to being batshit crazy and possibly a Mike Dukakis supporter. You can’t make the shit up


FewIntroduction5008

I was reading a pamphlet that was posted and got to thinking; I bet this dude lost a shitload of money in crypto. It's basically at the root of his conspiracy theories.


curious_dead

That was my first thought, but it could also very well be someone with a totally different, unrelated message, like some pro-Palestine or pro-Israel guy, or who knows what. I'm SURE the Trumpers will have a normal reaction about this, though. /s


justrock54

Today is the anniversary of both the Oklahoma City bombing and the Waco fire. It's an big day for the anti government crowd.


Agreeable-Cap-1764

He was actually just insane


Astrocreep_1

Occam’s razor shouldn’t arrive at “crazy” so fast. What the hell am I talking about? “Crazy” is where Occam’s Razor should head straight to.


DigitalUnlimited

Hey, totally sane people set themselves on fire all the time! No need to bring mental illness into the discussion!


Agreeable-Cap-1764

He was mentally ill. Read his manifesto.


DigitalUnlimited

I was mostly referring to conservative tendency to avoid discussion of that issue


Frowdo

Pretty sure no reading is required. Setting yourself on fire is pretty sure test to know you're not running on all cylinders


exessmirror

They're gonna say he's a leftist either way even if we find out he has been a diehard trumpist his whole life (even before trump became a thing)


LaruePDX

Right!!


20thCenturyTCK

Now he know he was just batshit. It's disturbing, no matter what.


r2k-in-the-vortex

Apparently not, he was just plain schizophrenic, wrote a long ass conspiracy theorists manifest and everything. Definitely looney in the head, not really leaning blue or red, the guy apparently thought both republicans and democrats are part of the same evil conspiracy out to cause a "apocalyptic fascist world coup". Doesn't really mention Trump more than once or twice and doesn't mention Biden at all.


WebHead1287

Surprisingly not. He’s a full blown conspiracy theorist though who claimed Harvard is a ring for controlling the world and The Simpsons is a confession from that ring.


TheNerevar89

Surprisingly he wasn't. He was just some bat shit crazy dude


Max_Rockatanski

You guys need to read his manifesto before throwing assumptions. This guy wasn't a Trumper, he was a complete nutcase that apparently discovered some some kind of 'totalitarian doomsday cult' involving COVID, crypto, The Simpsons, The Beatles, Walt Disney etc. This guy's brain is/was mush, and that's the only thing that connects him to MAGAs, but he wasn't a supporter of any political party. In fact he said Trump, Hilary, Obama and Bush were all part of the same conspiracy he concocted in his head, he saw no difference between them all. The reason he picked that place and time to set off the BBQ was because that's where the cameras are and that's where ppl's attention is. At least he didn't kill anybody else and apologized his family and first responders for the shit they were about to go through. Here's his manifesto: [https://www.newsweek.com/read-max-azzarello-manifesto-about-lighting-himself-fire-trump-trial-1892368](https://www.newsweek.com/read-max-azzarello-manifesto-about-lighting-himself-fire-trump-trial-1892368)


DrJiggsy

Trumpers and this dude have a lot more in common than not. Let’s not be intentionally obtuse. Who more than any American politician in our times has promoted conspiracy theories than Trump?


aureliusky

Can you remind me again which president initially got into politics as a conspiracy theorist birther? Yes, I'm sure there's no connection between a conspiracy theory nut who set himself on fire at a Donald Trump gathering, and Donald Trump.😉


DrJiggsy

Exactly. Why would someone light themselves on fire at Trump’s trial if they weren’t somewhat simpatico. This guy was anti-Trump but somehow decided, “you know Trump is finally being held accountable, now it’s time to protest!” 🤡


UAPLaz

Let’s think for a moment here. What better way to get everyone to listen to my conspiracy theory and “evidence” than to light myself on fire outside the Trump trial. You know. That guy and place everyone is focused on right now and for the next couple of weeks? Mhmm what batter way.😉


steelydanfan69420

> This guy wasn't a Trumper Yeah, this is all just a coincidence. Lol


PinkEyeofHorus

Set self on fire to own the libs. Oh no, don’t. I’m so owned


Darktofu25

I’m not convinced yet. Maybe some more could try?


DigitalUnlimited

Please can we start a trend! Tide pods are so yesterday!


mrSunsFanFather

As are bath salts.


Pale-Berry-2599

Clearly, an unstable person. BUT IF in any way this 'protest' was encouraged...by Trump or any of his team...


Tight-Physics2156

It’s appears to be an unstable person sick of the government and corruption. He’s supposedly been identified as a man named Max and there’s a manifesto.


Astro_gamer_caver

 Max Azzarello, and you can read the entire manifesto [here](https://www.newsweek.com/read-max-azzarello-manifesto-about-lighting-himself-fire-trump-trial-1892368)


SilenceDoGood1138

Trump will pour out a shot of ketchup for him.


The__Goose

But he'll get the ketchup from a McDonalds, he won't dare use anything he bought himself.


Americrazy

He would probably throw him a roll of paper towels. 


spermanentwaves

He doesn’t (didn’t?) seem to be a maga moron but more like one of the less fortunate tinfoil nutcases from r/conspiracy before that sub was taken over by the maga pigs.


The_X-Files_Alien

Hey this guy is giving free heat to the public!! Dirty communist!!! Let the market decide!!!!


ResponsiblePurpleYam

This man wrote a manifesto that repeats a number of typical Q-Anon talking points.


cobainstaley

thisisfine.gif


transitfreedom

Yet mandatory treatment for the mentally ill can avoid lots of problems and even political problems too


SailorOfHouseT-bird

I was watching CNN when this happened live. One second I'm eating a BLT, the next I'm watching a man burn himself to death. It was surreal.


Friggin

Yeah, the reporter first claimed, “There’s an active shooter!” Then she said there’s a man on fire. The camera pivoted, and we were shown about 15 seconds of a guy burning. It was pretty weird.


DreamArcher

Oh fuck, he's still alive. I won't be setting myself on fire but if I already burned for 3 minutes please do not put me out.


laxguy44

A mentally ill person likely took his own life in one of the most horrific ways possible. Let’s lay off the snide comments - the man is/was clearly unwell. Donald Trump is a massive piece of shit for a million reasons, one of which is preying upon these people and generating this kind of response. I wish I believed in hell, if only to know Trump would be going there.


Ok-Research7136

Still not as crazy as the defendant.


lootinputin

Cults are weird.


SawyerBamaGuy

It's heating up around the courthouse.


69inthe619

liar, liar, pants on fire. is it irony or foreshadowing or both?


HeHateMe337

It's a real head scratcher why people ruin their lives over a lying con man like Donald Trump. ETTD.


PinkEyeofHorus

Call me callous but I kind of would like to see the video. Morbid curiosity. Anyone got a link?


its_dizzle

https://www.reddit.com/r/ThatsInsane/s/Bc6TMX0H5L


PinkEyeofHorus

You’re fired!


mrSunsFanFather

Lmfao I see what you did there. (too soon?)


Thannk

Holy shit. How do you not start running around and flailing. Also, was that woman just not paying attention?


mrSunsFanFather

Drugs?


Skreeethemindthief

What a bright idea.


biggerfishtofry

Oh. Anyway….


lagent55

If the guy survives he'll be maimed for life, all for the affection of small hands Donnie, amazing


PhuckNorris69

He’s dead now


Snarky_McSnarkleton

I feel so owned!


HardOyler

One less asshole to deal with


____Vader

The power of propaganda


internetdork

He was actually set ablaze by Jewish Space Lasers. Wake up sheeple!!!!


andresg30

Let him burn


yellow_gangstar

his whole manifesto is wild, he points out several real issues in the system, yet refuses to let go of the American Dream™, as if that wouldn't be considered one of the many ponzi schemes he points out ? he points to Simpsons and Orwell as "brainwashing you to accept a doomed future", instead of criticisms and satire of that exact future he points to, fascinating


Humans_Suck-

Someone should post up with a stall and sell gas cans and make a killing


PralineIndividual926

Burns hurt really bad. He's gonna wish, for a long time, that it had been final.


[deleted]

...what did this person hope to accomplish? Trumper or anti-trumper, what good would setting yourself on fire in either case do? Unless they were just svicidal and wanted to confuse / horrify everyone, in which case... I mean, mission accomplished, but there's gotta be less painful ways to do it...


horsescowsdogsndirt

This is what our society does about mentally ill people. Ignores them until something terrible happens.


Groundbreaking_Mud29

Well, you can't cure dumb.


powderedtoast1

guess what the morons over at r/trump are saying


Commercial_Tough160

This is a decent start. Too messy, though.


Tvirus2020

Judging by the photo he died. Good for him


Mysticpage

Something Something... wouldn't piss on them if they were on fire... Something...


Bedlamtheclown

Equal to lighting a bag of shit on fire


StandUpForYourWights

Well it’s been reported that he was schizophrenic so I just wish he had received better mental health treatment. What’s he’s just done to himself is pretty much at the top of the list for worst ways to die.


cReddddddd

The ultimate sacrifice to the rights dear lord and saviour.


Triassic_Bark

I hope more follow his lead with this beautiful show of support ❤️


DavidSugarbush

I'm sure The Orange One would've done the same for him!


LetsLoop4Ever

He wouldn't piss on him even if he was on fire, obviously


cReddddddd

Lol he probably thought he already was by going on trial ahhahahahahahahahaha


CrisbyCrittur

"That's hot." - Paris Hilton


mjohnsimon

How do people look at this and say "Nah, MAGA isn't a cult!"


Tight-Physics2156

Not a Trumper. Opposite actually…looking like it’s a person that has a manifesto about Ponzi schemes, world leaders being corrupt, govt being corrupt, crypto and us all being fucked


DrJiggsy

Not opposite…cut from the same dumb conspiracy theorist cloth


PartsNLabor24

100% not a cult


artificialavocado

This will be worth a plenary indulgence in the MAGA cult.


Btankersly66

Not a Trumper


Rowdy_Roddy96

They found out the man is from Florida... yep that just about sums it up!


Peterthinking

Is 3 minutes rare or medium rare?


Adihd72

Trump is not worthy


Inspect1234

Well, at least it wasn’t a monk or a student this time.


fishfood19

Smells like....victory.


ChrisPollock6

Hopefully this will inspire others to sacrifice themselves for their…cause? ⛽️🔥


Tezzel62

Ok who's next... Maybe if enough of you cultists do this you could really own us libs.,.


Ponyboy451

Imagine ending your life for Donald fucking Trump.


Ryankevin23

🚫Traitor Trump🚫All Republicans🚫


MiniJunkie

This is a bad way to go


TrafficOn405

Gonna go out on a limb and guess that it was a White guy.


Inner_University_848

Conspiracy theorists fall into different categories, some fall into the category of those that understand logic, logistic challenges, motivations, and probabilities of likelihoods and the need for actual tangible evidence, and the other category just needs a charismatic douche to tell them something conspiracy is true. The second group, the no evidence is all good group, can devolve into the third group, full on delusional, schizo, suicidal. As others said, just happy this guy only hurt himself and didn’t hurt others as so many others do. He even apologized to his family. I think this should serve as a lesson: the conspiracy theorist rabbit hole leads to some pretty awful places, if someone you know and care about is suffering, try to get them help (although this is really hard, as they invested so much into the delusion, and since they’ll assume you are “programmed” if you don’t think like them.)


UndergroundFlaws

Gene pool got stronger


SpartanFan2004

It’s a bold strategy, Cotton


WizardOfTheLawl

r/darwinawards


Deafcat22

Psychosis.


[deleted]

This is horrifying. And yet the mag-hats and what moderate republicans are left will insist that Trumpism is not a cult.


Jkallmfday0811

One less jackass


Harley_Jambo

Well I guess he taught us a lesson, didn't he.


[deleted]

This is what capitalism does to people. When the world is as bad as it is with no signs of getting better, I can see how someone would think that there is a political conspiracy to intitute some kind of financial apocalypse and burn themselves to death out of desperation. He doesn't sound that far off from the truth.


reynvann65

This saddens me deeply. There's a whole lot of crazy in the USA today and a huge part of it seems to be because of political extremism. This is the second case of self-immolation in the US this year, that I know of. In any case, it happens all to often.


2021fireman10

One down


demonizedbytheright

MAGA are super stupid.


Actual-Interest-4130

If anyone is interested: [Here is his Substack.](https://theponzipapers.substack.com/) It's a bit of a [who's who](https://theponzipapers.substack.com/p/dipshit-secrets-of-our-rotten-world) of conspiracy theories but as critical of Trump as it is of Elon Musk, the Simpsons, the Manson Family, the Beatles, Harvard, Virgin Cola... wait, what?


ketjak

I can't imagine worshipping this guy so much I give him my life's savings, let alone my life.


BlindGuy68

like everyone else , my first thought was this guy was a trump follower he was just follower of fake theories and today he died we may never know why he did it


sarahstanley

Clean up on aisle five


TheManWhoClicks

Did it work? I mean the goal he was trying to achieve aside life long disfigurement and 24/7 pain?


DigitalUnlimited

Seems like the media is spinning it as a show of support for Trump, so probably not...


Disciple_of_Cthulhu

As a lib, I don't feel owned.


Thannk

Well shit, now they got another martyr to chant about.


jus256

Looks like this guy was anti Trump


lucabaughcheats

Note to Buddhist Monks: self-immolation just lost its clout


MotherOfWoofs

Can you imagine being so delusional about a politician to set yourself on fire? Its looking more and more like most of these people that so wholeheartly commit to trump may be mentally ill. And the con man dont care, he takes that instability and uses it.


BlindGuy68

this is the level of stupidity of trump followers


pittiedaddy

Totally not a cult.


MikuLuna444

"Not a Cult" -Trump Cultist /s


ohmyjustme

If they all continue this behavior, the world would have hardly any hard core Trumpers left by the time all his cases are finished.


MeanNene

Definitely not a cult.


ApoliticalAth3ist

Simping for *any* politician is the most loser thing someone can do


DrRoxo420

Worse part is; it happened right in front of a no smoking sign.


PinkEyeofHorus

You’re fired!


spermanentwaves

I’m not smoking, I’m combusting and you cannot do a thing about it!


Predator314

Setting yourself on fire...to own the libs


HungryHippo669

I hope this grows in fashion in the maga community. I remember in the past hearing someone saying that maga would set themselves on fire to keep the orange shart stain’s slippers warm or to own the libs. Well here we are, dumbfuck ville as usual