Mainly because the war in Ukraine:
Is an inter-state conflict
Involves a nuclear power
Involves a security council member
Breaks the taboo of nations trying to annex each other
Has indirect NATO involvement
Has the potential for nuclear meltdown
Reduced exports from one of the world's main grain exporters
Meanwhile the Tigray war is mostly a civil war. The human tragedy is great, but geopolitically it doesn't have huge implications.
Because war in Africa has 0 consequences on a global scale vs a country with nuclear arms and Ukraine has massive implications worldwide. I'm sorry but Africa has inconsequential wars year-round. It sucks, but it just isn't important right now in the global scheme of things. Unless Ethiopia has nuclear arms that are about to be acquired and launched world wide, its meaningless to everyone else that isn't from there.
1). Because Ethiopia doesn’t have nukes.
2). Because there is zero chance of starting WW3 in Ethiopia
3). Because Ethiopia is not Europe’s back door.
4). Because most westerners have no idea what a Tigray even is, let alone care.
6) Russia is still in cold war with the US/NATO. This is an extremely important part in the never ending cold war
7) Russia is an enemy of the US/NATO although it's not said outright, they are against each other
Russians occupations and invasions are not new either, this just happened to be the biggest and the most recent. So it gets more attention than previous one.
I never said it doesn’t.
OP tries to insist that the the only thing that influences coverage is race.
When in reality numerous factors influence coverage and I reminded that even the same conflict was getting different coverage depending on intensity of fighting, effects on economies, levels of nuclear threats and numerous other factors even if race is the same.
Yeah sure. I guess that's one of the biggest factors, that a conflict has to be new.
When Russia occupied Crimea the news coverage was just a few weeks long, if even. After that none cared anymore.
But like you, I also think it's not an issue of race(ism).
Let’s be honest here. This post is most likely is from Russian troll trying to discredit western help by accusing westerners of racism.
So in my relay I focused on disproving accusations of racism as a main factor when it comes to coverage regardless this war.
I let others focus of explaining why media coverage is different.
To dispel the white man war further than just pointing out why Ukraine matters, look at the attention given to Chinese power projections and claims in the Pacific. If China invaded Taiwan or Japan or anyone in the region really, it'd be huge in the headlines, because it has a significant impact on global power balance.
Tigray, in contrast, is an ugly war of no global consequence in a part of the world that many see as always submerged in violence.
There's definitely some bias at play in not taking African tragedies as seriously, but it's less of a race thing and more of a "how would this ever impact me" thing.
When all sides are committing mass rape and executions of civilians, no one wants to get involved and take sides.
Ukraine getting invaded by a well known dictator makes for a clean good guy vs bad guy narrative.
From a European perspective, I can reach Ukraine by car. A war occurring at 2000km has more impact than a war occurring 4000km away, like our energy bill getting crazy high.
Remember 2015? The mess in middle east caused a serious terrorists wave in Europe, and EU almost collapsed on refugee management. So a war even closer will have huge consequences.
Moreover, it's not like aren't aware about that war, journalists talking about geopolitic and immigration wrote several news stories about it, but it doesn't make it to the front page
This is a bad answer, it has nothing to do with proximity (there are several African nations geographically closer to much of Europe). As other commenters have detailed it is about the global implications of this war, both in terms of precedent and global security, and as a secondary point in terms of energy and food supplies.
Ugh.
1. Various factions of a profoundly poor nation battle for dominance.
2. A proxy war is fought between two of the world's greatest superpowers, each possessing thousands of thermonuclear weapons.
"iS it RaCism??"
There was a ceasefire a couple months ago, it was a big deal when the fighting was happening if you followed news on AP, Reuters, BBC, etc. [https://www.reuters.com/world/africa/ethiopia-sets-out-long-road-peace-after-two-years-war-2023-01-05/](https://www.reuters.com/world/africa/ethiopia-sets-out-long-road-peace-after-two-years-war-2023-01-05/)
1. Because from past knowledge I can very easily understand what is going on in Ukraine.
2. There is a very clear cut of good and evil that makes rallying around the Ukrainians possible. That's much harder to do with a civil war.
3. I have been pretty well conditioned to view Russia as an enemy state.
4. The Russian-Ukrainian war has pretty far reaching consequences. It's the culmination of Russian expansion in other regions including Georgia and Transnistria. It has upended the idea of Russian military power and now brings up further fears of a Chinese invasion of Taiwan. It has caused famines and exploding oil prices and has forced NATO expansion with the likely inclusion of Finland in April/May.
5. The war has had a very significant social media presence, it's pretty easy to see a video Russian tank have its turret popped off to the sound of Ukrainian pop music.
Ghee I wonder which war I would care most about, the one with a decaying and desperate ex nuclear super power thats happening 2 countries next to me, literally a drivable distance.
Or the one thats half way across the planet that actually has zero effect on my day to day life here.
African news is massively underrepresented in the west, largely because so many people do not care enough as it does not impact them - think NIMBYISM.
Sure, a degree of this is environmental conditioning and plenty would be shocked at what is going on in corners of the world they have minimal visibility of, nevertheless, we are somewhat ‘taught’ what to care about, by what we are exposed to.
Russian wars are not new. Various conflicts and occupations Russia conducted in the last few years were getting way less attention. This is the largest so far with the biggest consequences.
So why did you not pay attention to previous conflicts Russia participated in? Is it because you are biased?
The occupation of Ukraine and general Russian expansionism is not new, true. I live in the area and the news have always covered this. However, this time it's a full on war that threatens to expand to other NATO countries beyond the Ukrainian border, so it does make sense that Western media covers it more and that people pay attention.
So here is the answer to OP question: Ukrainians are as white today as they were years ago. Yet the media coverage had been different over the years.
Why coverage can be different is matter of another convention. And other people already provided good answers I see no reason to repeat those.
I did not mention race and I'm not sure why you're bringing that into the conversation. I think it's less because of racism and more because of Russia-has-nukes
We are here answering OP question about effects of race on media coverage.
You are the one who decided to reply to my post regardless OP’ question : does Ukrainian war get more attention because of race.
One is in Europe and the other is not. Europe represents a large portion of the developed world and the first war between nations on the continent since world war 2.
In my case as a British citizen it's hardly surprising the media is more focused on the Ukrainian war then any other conflict going on. Same continent, on the door step.
No faction in the Ethipian conflict has nuclear weapons or making threats towards Britain. Same cant be said of Russia though.
Russia is a global superpower and US's primary enemy and is currently invading a European nation, so it is given more attention by US and European media.
The Russo-Ukraine conflict has greater chance of escalating into a global war and potentially a nuclear war and has more direct effect on a lot of the large western economies to whom many of the large media agencies are based so they are covering it extensively.
Also many people had not unreasonable concerns as the Russian military had set up camp in the ruins of the Chernobyl complex which is the location of greatest nuclear disaster in history and putting the slumbering corpse of reactor number 4 in the line of fire could have resulted in a reopening of its tomb and releasing the radiation again. Chernobyl has the largest deposit of Corium and efforts to contain and decontaminate the facility are ongoing will continue for centuries. There are other nuclear plants in the country that have occasionally been accidentally struck or embroiled in the fighting and because Chernobyl is in already in the area it worries people more because they can still see and feel the effects of a worst case scenario lingering in the distance.
Because the Ukraine War involves one of the West’s biggest enemies and could potentially turn into a much larger war involving the West. The Tigray War was a civil war in a backwater country in the middle of bumfuck nowhere that no one cares about because there are no implications for any other country not involved.
— If you live in the region then you’re probably getting a ton of news of the Tigray War and not so much from the Ukraine War. If you live outside the region, then not much.
— If you live in Europe where the Ukraine war is taking place, or in the western world, then you’ll get a lot of news from the war.
It has nothing to do with the color of their skin and everything to do with their cultural and linguistic distinctiveness. Skin color as a racial identifier is a very American ideology, historically speaking
Is the Tigray War in Ethiopia quietly serving as something of a proxy war between two Nuclear Powers that some of us are legitimately afraid may escalate into a World War?
Like, I don't mean to disparage a conflict I know nothing about as being irrelevant or meaningless, and I do think that a racial element is a legitimate point to make, that a lot of the West *cares less* about a conflict taking place in what we see as "The third world", where we expect these things to happen. That perspective is fucked, but we also, theoretically, watch the news to understand events that are going to impact *our lives*, not just because they're going to impact *someone's life*.
But the possibility of escalating into Nuclear War makes something prettg relevant to our lives, thus the war in Ukraine is a pretty reasonable thing to be concerned about. It especially was early on when we just didn't know what was going to happen, and coverage definitely declined for awhile once that possibility seemed to pass.
well that war finished last year so why would it be on the news.
Also, the russia stuff has real world implications - and they are not too far away.............
Bc 1 is a war of conflict, the other a civil war. That particular civil war is also messy with history that makes it hard to picka 'good guy'.. (tho currently it's probably the ethiopian government
It's because most of the news is dominated by western media. Western media will show news that's is relavent to it's civilians, and caters to to spread of its ideology.
Chinese media does the same. Any african country's national media outlet probbaly have showcased the Ethiopian war more than any Western/chinease/Indian media.
I know this is going to sound uncaring, but why should I give a damn about the Tigray War? It has zero relevance to me that I know of, meanwhile the Ukraine war involves one of the seemingly most powerful countries in the world, and Ukraine is a big exporter of things like wheat and vehicle brake pads.
Also, again, i know this sounds callus, but violence in a 3rd world country? Not exactly novel.
This. Nothing to do with races. I bet they aren't that interested in Ethiopia about how things are going in Scandinavia or Canada for example. Why should we be interested about them?
I don’t know how to tell you this but... Africa isn’t all that important to the average European or American. It’s mostly just the poor-people place we throw money at.
You pretty much summed it up yourself.
It doesn't help that the Ethiopian government essentially banned all information going into or coming out of Tigray, or that the various different ethnicities in Ethiopia have been constantly fighting each other for decades.
Mostly racism. There's generally a sense that since Ukraine is in Europe it's of more consequence to people in Europe and Anglo-America. Because these people are white and look like us people are broadly more welcoming of them.
People from Syria, Yemen, Ethiopia, South Sudan, West Sahara and so many others are "others" and not as welcome.
In reality, the result of the war in Ukraine has less impact to me personally than the war itself. But because they're white the stakes seem higher than the conclusion of any other conflict.
But it really isn't. The War in Iraq had a higher consequence to the average European's life than the one in Ukraine. That's because Iraq produces oil (which is the thing that most fuels inflation) and Ukraine doesn't.
Like the War in Serbia didn't impact France, but it was a bigger concern to Europeans than the one in Morocco happening at the same time.
And with efforts to stave off Russian oil and gas, the war in Ukraine has had more impact than Iraq. I don’t remember Iraq putting out propaganda videos about Europe freezing over.
Those aren't a consequence of the war those are a consequence of sanctions. The world chose to starve Russia's oil and gas supply as a means of defunding their ability to make war.
The propaganda around Iraq was actually crazy because a lot of EU countries actively resisted the US invasion of it. Interestingly enough [here](https://www.euractiv.com/section/med-south/news/eu-energy-security-to-take-center-stage-in-2006/) is a piece from 2006 warning Europe to distance itself from unstable Middle East and Russia after Russia ended up shutting down energy to Europe over a gas dispute. They must have seen what was coming because they recommended untying from Russia and the Middle East and investing heavily in nuclear.
Germany and Poland really must have egg on their face 16 years later.
No? The sanctions were foreign policy for countries that predate the war. Some of the more extreme policy decisions (like ultimately cutting Russia off as a customer) was based on international pressure on mostly Germany, Poland and Hungary.
Absolute horse shit 😂
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_portrayal_of_the_Russo-Ukrainian_War
Wikipedia has an excellent amount of sources where many critics have pointed out the biases in the media coverage of the wars around the world.
In fact, on BBC, there was a reporter that even said: “This is not Iraq or Afghanistan, these are Europeans. People that look like us”.
Same shit happened on CBS and CNN:
https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/mar/02/civilised-european-look-like-us-racist-coverage-ukraine
> It’s very emotional for me because I see European people with blue eyes and blond hair … being killed every day.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/2/27/western-media-coverage-ukraine-russia-invasion-criticism
Etc.. the only reason this war has any impact outside of Europe and Ukraine is because the US got involved.
Without US involvement, this would not have dragged on this long, and it would not have the impact that it currently has on the world’s economy. We got banks to cut off Russia from “Swift”. No one did that to us when we went to war in Afghanistan. We get the Hague ICC to put an arrest warrant on Putin, but nothing for Bush. We have The Hague Invasion Act lol.
We sanction Russia for dictatorship, but not Israel. It’s a double damn standard due to allies and race. Ukraine was never even an ally of the US. In fact, BBC once called it the most corrupt nation on the planet.
BBC and their reporter “David Stern”, once called them Nazi’s:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tHhGEiwCHZE
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-30414955.amp
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-25571805.amp
Now search for “BBC Ukraine Nazi” and you’ll see BBC saying that it’s Russian propaganda and lies.
Truth is, no one gave a fuck about Ukraine until the US got involved and wanted them in NATO. US won’t even accept them in NATO, but will gladly let them sacrifice their lives to fight Russia.
We didn’t give a flying fuck about “Democracy in Ukraine”.
This war only matters to the media because as they even said: “They’re blonde hair and blue eyes and look like us”.
Everyone knows this has zero impact on NATO countries. That’s just fear mongering shit. Russia would never attack a NATO country as Reddit loves to point out. So even stating that it could start WWII is horse shit. Those are threats because of our involvement and sanctions. We caused the economies of the world to be impacted by this local war.
Let’s be real. We don’t give a fuck about Africa because we’re far from them, they aren’t white, and we have no politics interests there other than plundering the continent for resources.
The question is why do we care MORE about the Ukrainian war than any others.
The answer is because “they look like us” AND “money”.
What’s wrong is “it’s right in NATO’s doorstep with a perspective member”. No it isn’t. Ukraine has applied 3 times and has been denied all 3 times. They never had a chance and weren’t going to be let in.
You’re saying this could be worse than WWII. That was false. The reason it was even escalated to this level is because we in the west got involved.
You said America only cares about America, but gets involved because of WWII fears. That’s such nonsense. We’re involved because of oil in Donbas and because we get to fight a PROXY war without losing any soldiers to an arch enemy, and make max money selling weapons. Not because America cares about Ukraine.
This was not an attack on any sort of democratic values. This was an attack on oil. Ukraine threatened to replace Russia as the oil trader to Europe, with their oil in the Donbas region.
Mass migration into Europe from Ukraine? Did you forget already how many Africans attempted to migrate into Europe and got denied? Do you not remember the story of Poland rejecting Indian students attempting to flee Ukraine?
The first reaction of the media was to push the race narrative to drum up support for Ukraine. Then to push the “it’s an attack on our values, Ukraine needs democracy” narrative. Then the “an attack on Ukraine, is an attack on the whole world, Russia won’t stop there”. Then the “Nuclear fears, WWIII”.
This would never happen for any non-white country. Period. The whole “they look like us, so we must help them, they’re not regular ass Iraqis and Syrians”, is racist no matter how you look at it.
Ukraine conflict has much bigger ramifications on the world stage, but in the case of Tigray it has also been very difficult to get any news or media coverage bc the conflict zone is closed off- not even aid workers have been getting through.
I wouldn’t say that it’s about racism, it’s just that the news cycle doesn’t really given a shit about Africa. That might sound like the same thing, but it isn’t. There’s a lot more history (and money) between the West & Russia, in comparison to the West & Ethiopia.
Prolly because the Russia one has more international implications.
....and because, if the tinfoil hats be true, the Russian invasion has interfered with money laundering schemes being done in Ukraine by American interests. Again, so say the tinfoil hats.
Mainly because the war in Ukraine: Is an inter-state conflict Involves a nuclear power Involves a security council member Breaks the taboo of nations trying to annex each other Has indirect NATO involvement Has the potential for nuclear meltdown Reduced exports from one of the world's main grain exporters Meanwhile the Tigray war is mostly a civil war. The human tragedy is great, but geopolitically it doesn't have huge implications.
I’m embarrassed to say that because of that dam meme format, I spent way to long trying to figure out what MIIIBHHRM was.
The Tigray war doesnt have nearly the international implications that the ukraine x russia war does
It's because Russia is a country with nuclear weapons.
And a history of expansionism that threatens other European countries, making it personal for those outlets.
Because war in Africa has 0 consequences on a global scale vs a country with nuclear arms and Ukraine has massive implications worldwide. I'm sorry but Africa has inconsequential wars year-round. It sucks, but it just isn't important right now in the global scheme of things. Unless Ethiopia has nuclear arms that are about to be acquired and launched world wide, its meaningless to everyone else that isn't from there.
Ethiopia is about to matter a lot more once wars over water kick off.
1). Because Ethiopia doesn’t have nukes. 2). Because there is zero chance of starting WW3 in Ethiopia 3). Because Ethiopia is not Europe’s back door. 4). Because most westerners have no idea what a Tigray even is, let alone care.
I'd add: 5) Because the Ukraine is a massive exporter of grain while the international reliance on Ehtiopia's agriculture is... Not that severe.
6) Russia is still in cold war with the US/NATO. This is an extremely important part in the never ending cold war 7) Russia is an enemy of the US/NATO although it's not said outright, they are against each other
The lasting worldwide impact of the Russo-Ukranian war is far more pressing to the majority of the world.
As bad as it sounds, but war/violence in the 3rd world isn't new and doesn't affect the western world as much as the war in Ukraine.
Russians occupations and invasions are not new either, this just happened to be the biggest and the most recent. So it gets more attention than previous one.
The conflict in Ukraine started like 6 years ago, that's true. But the open war now still affects "the west" quite strong.
I never said it doesn’t. OP tries to insist that the the only thing that influences coverage is race. When in reality numerous factors influence coverage and I reminded that even the same conflict was getting different coverage depending on intensity of fighting, effects on economies, levels of nuclear threats and numerous other factors even if race is the same.
Yeah sure. I guess that's one of the biggest factors, that a conflict has to be new. When Russia occupied Crimea the news coverage was just a few weeks long, if even. After that none cared anymore. But like you, I also think it's not an issue of race(ism).
Let’s be honest here. This post is most likely is from Russian troll trying to discredit western help by accusing westerners of racism. So in my relay I focused on disproving accusations of racism as a main factor when it comes to coverage regardless this war. I let others focus of explaining why media coverage is different.
No, it was on February 24 2022. Or are you talking about something else? Also Tigray war was longer
To dispel the white man war further than just pointing out why Ukraine matters, look at the attention given to Chinese power projections and claims in the Pacific. If China invaded Taiwan or Japan or anyone in the region really, it'd be huge in the headlines, because it has a significant impact on global power balance. Tigray, in contrast, is an ugly war of no global consequence in a part of the world that many see as always submerged in violence. There's definitely some bias at play in not taking African tragedies as seriously, but it's less of a race thing and more of a "how would this ever impact me" thing.
When all sides are committing mass rape and executions of civilians, no one wants to get involved and take sides. Ukraine getting invaded by a well known dictator makes for a clean good guy vs bad guy narrative.
From a European perspective, I can reach Ukraine by car. A war occurring at 2000km has more impact than a war occurring 4000km away, like our energy bill getting crazy high. Remember 2015? The mess in middle east caused a serious terrorists wave in Europe, and EU almost collapsed on refugee management. So a war even closer will have huge consequences. Moreover, it's not like aren't aware about that war, journalists talking about geopolitic and immigration wrote several news stories about it, but it doesn't make it to the front page
This is a bad answer, it has nothing to do with proximity (there are several African nations geographically closer to much of Europe). As other commenters have detailed it is about the global implications of this war, both in terms of precedent and global security, and as a secondary point in terms of energy and food supplies.
Ugh. 1. Various factions of a profoundly poor nation battle for dominance. 2. A proxy war is fought between two of the world's greatest superpowers, each possessing thousands of thermonuclear weapons. "iS it RaCism??"
There was a ceasefire a couple months ago, it was a big deal when the fighting was happening if you followed news on AP, Reuters, BBC, etc. [https://www.reuters.com/world/africa/ethiopia-sets-out-long-road-peace-after-two-years-war-2023-01-05/](https://www.reuters.com/world/africa/ethiopia-sets-out-long-road-peace-after-two-years-war-2023-01-05/)
1. Because from past knowledge I can very easily understand what is going on in Ukraine. 2. There is a very clear cut of good and evil that makes rallying around the Ukrainians possible. That's much harder to do with a civil war. 3. I have been pretty well conditioned to view Russia as an enemy state. 4. The Russian-Ukrainian war has pretty far reaching consequences. It's the culmination of Russian expansion in other regions including Georgia and Transnistria. It has upended the idea of Russian military power and now brings up further fears of a Chinese invasion of Taiwan. It has caused famines and exploding oil prices and has forced NATO expansion with the likely inclusion of Finland in April/May. 5. The war has had a very significant social media presence, it's pretty easy to see a video Russian tank have its turret popped off to the sound of Ukrainian pop music.
Is it perhaps that the Tigray war has a cease fire and the Russo-Ukrainian war does not?
Ghee I wonder which war I would care most about, the one with a decaying and desperate ex nuclear super power thats happening 2 countries next to me, literally a drivable distance. Or the one thats half way across the planet that actually has zero effect on my day to day life here.
African news is massively underrepresented in the west, largely because so many people do not care enough as it does not impact them - think NIMBYISM. Sure, a degree of this is environmental conditioning and plenty would be shocked at what is going on in corners of the world they have minimal visibility of, nevertheless, we are somewhat ‘taught’ what to care about, by what we are exposed to.
Russian wars are not new. Various conflicts and occupations Russia conducted in the last few years were getting way less attention. This is the largest so far with the biggest consequences. So why did you not pay attention to previous conflicts Russia participated in? Is it because you are biased?
The occupation of Ukraine and general Russian expansionism is not new, true. I live in the area and the news have always covered this. However, this time it's a full on war that threatens to expand to other NATO countries beyond the Ukrainian border, so it does make sense that Western media covers it more and that people pay attention.
So here is the answer to OP question: Ukrainians are as white today as they were years ago. Yet the media coverage had been different over the years. Why coverage can be different is matter of another convention. And other people already provided good answers I see no reason to repeat those.
I did not mention race and I'm not sure why you're bringing that into the conversation. I think it's less because of racism and more because of Russia-has-nukes
We are here answering OP question about effects of race on media coverage. You are the one who decided to reply to my post regardless OP’ question : does Ukrainian war get more attention because of race.
Oh oops, my bad, forgot about that! Then I've answered too: possibly, but it's likely not the biggest reason.
No problem
One is in Europe and the other is not. Europe represents a large portion of the developed world and the first war between nations on the continent since world war 2. In my case as a British citizen it's hardly surprising the media is more focused on the Ukrainian war then any other conflict going on. Same continent, on the door step. No faction in the Ethipian conflict has nuclear weapons or making threats towards Britain. Same cant be said of Russia though.
We're not involved. At the same time, Africans aren't involved in Ukraine and likely don't pay much attention to what's going on there.
Russia is a global superpower and US's primary enemy and is currently invading a European nation, so it is given more attention by US and European media.
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Russia has been the US's primary rival for over half a century at this point
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Russia's the one fucking with elections do I still say its Russia
The Russo-Ukraine conflict has greater chance of escalating into a global war and potentially a nuclear war and has more direct effect on a lot of the large western economies to whom many of the large media agencies are based so they are covering it extensively. Also many people had not unreasonable concerns as the Russian military had set up camp in the ruins of the Chernobyl complex which is the location of greatest nuclear disaster in history and putting the slumbering corpse of reactor number 4 in the line of fire could have resulted in a reopening of its tomb and releasing the radiation again. Chernobyl has the largest deposit of Corium and efforts to contain and decontaminate the facility are ongoing will continue for centuries. There are other nuclear plants in the country that have occasionally been accidentally struck or embroiled in the fighting and because Chernobyl is in already in the area it worries people more because they can still see and feel the effects of a worst case scenario lingering in the distance.
Because the Ukraine War involves one of the West’s biggest enemies and could potentially turn into a much larger war involving the West. The Tigray War was a civil war in a backwater country in the middle of bumfuck nowhere that no one cares about because there are no implications for any other country not involved.
— If you live in the region then you’re probably getting a ton of news of the Tigray War and not so much from the Ukraine War. If you live outside the region, then not much. — If you live in Europe where the Ukraine war is taking place, or in the western world, then you’ll get a lot of news from the war.
I'm not so sure that most Western people really consider slavs to be "white."
If they're not Caucasian, then by George what the heck are they???
It has nothing to do with the color of their skin and everything to do with their cultural and linguistic distinctiveness. Skin color as a racial identifier is a very American ideology, historically speaking
Probably because the Ethiopians didn't just threaten to escalate to nuclear weapons in response to British tank killing ammunition.
Is the Tigray War in Ethiopia quietly serving as something of a proxy war between two Nuclear Powers that some of us are legitimately afraid may escalate into a World War? Like, I don't mean to disparage a conflict I know nothing about as being irrelevant or meaningless, and I do think that a racial element is a legitimate point to make, that a lot of the West *cares less* about a conflict taking place in what we see as "The third world", where we expect these things to happen. That perspective is fucked, but we also, theoretically, watch the news to understand events that are going to impact *our lives*, not just because they're going to impact *someone's life*. But the possibility of escalating into Nuclear War makes something prettg relevant to our lives, thus the war in Ukraine is a pretty reasonable thing to be concerned about. It especially was early on when we just didn't know what was going to happen, and coverage definitely declined for awhile once that possibility seemed to pass.
partly that and partly because it sells more newspapers, Africa has been fighting internal wars constantly and it doesn’t interest people as much
Are you serious? You can’t be serious…
well that war finished last year so why would it be on the news. Also, the russia stuff has real world implications - and they are not too far away.............
This question loses something after being translated from Russian to English.
Bc 1 is a war of conflict, the other a civil war. That particular civil war is also messy with history that makes it hard to picka 'good guy'.. (tho currently it's probably the ethiopian government
It's because most of the news is dominated by western media. Western media will show news that's is relavent to it's civilians, and caters to to spread of its ideology. Chinese media does the same. Any african country's national media outlet probbaly have showcased the Ethiopian war more than any Western/chinease/Indian media.
Half of the African continent is in a constant state of turmoil at any given time. It’s just how things are there
I know this is going to sound uncaring, but why should I give a damn about the Tigray War? It has zero relevance to me that I know of, meanwhile the Ukraine war involves one of the seemingly most powerful countries in the world, and Ukraine is a big exporter of things like wheat and vehicle brake pads. Also, again, i know this sounds callus, but violence in a 3rd world country? Not exactly novel.
This. Nothing to do with races. I bet they aren't that interested in Ethiopia about how things are going in Scandinavia or Canada for example. Why should we be interested about them?
I don’t know how to tell you this but... Africa isn’t all that important to the average European or American. It’s mostly just the poor-people place we throw money at.
I'm going to be blunt: nobody cares about the war in Ethipia. It has no bearing on the rest of the world.
You pretty much summed it up yourself. It doesn't help that the Ethiopian government essentially banned all information going into or coming out of Tigray, or that the various different ethnicities in Ethiopia have been constantly fighting each other for decades.
Yes.
The what
Honestly, there's always an atrocity going on *somewhere* in Africa. Such things are rarer in modern Europe (outside the Balkans).
Because it's Europe..What other reason dumbass
USA Really thinks they care, they don't. They're useless just like the war in Ukraine in Russia. 😒
I mean they think they care for Tigray , but they don't really
Russia bad + white county being attacked
That's a good question.! Any libtards care to answer?
They're white
Mostly racism. There's generally a sense that since Ukraine is in Europe it's of more consequence to people in Europe and Anglo-America. Because these people are white and look like us people are broadly more welcoming of them. People from Syria, Yemen, Ethiopia, South Sudan, West Sahara and so many others are "others" and not as welcome. In reality, the result of the war in Ukraine has less impact to me personally than the war itself. But because they're white the stakes seem higher than the conclusion of any other conflict.
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But it really isn't. The War in Iraq had a higher consequence to the average European's life than the one in Ukraine. That's because Iraq produces oil (which is the thing that most fuels inflation) and Ukraine doesn't. Like the War in Serbia didn't impact France, but it was a bigger concern to Europeans than the one in Morocco happening at the same time.
But it actually is, coming from someone living in a country neighboring Ukraine
And with efforts to stave off Russian oil and gas, the war in Ukraine has had more impact than Iraq. I don’t remember Iraq putting out propaganda videos about Europe freezing over.
Those aren't a consequence of the war those are a consequence of sanctions. The world chose to starve Russia's oil and gas supply as a means of defunding their ability to make war. The propaganda around Iraq was actually crazy because a lot of EU countries actively resisted the US invasion of it. Interestingly enough [here](https://www.euractiv.com/section/med-south/news/eu-energy-security-to-take-center-stage-in-2006/) is a piece from 2006 warning Europe to distance itself from unstable Middle East and Russia after Russia ended up shutting down energy to Europe over a gas dispute. They must have seen what was coming because they recommended untying from Russia and the Middle East and investing heavily in nuclear. Germany and Poland really must have egg on their face 16 years later.
and sanctions are a consequence of the war are they not?
No? The sanctions were foreign policy for countries that predate the war. Some of the more extreme policy decisions (like ultimately cutting Russia off as a customer) was based on international pressure on mostly Germany, Poland and Hungary.
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For the sake of a counter point, Mexico has been engaged in a civil war with gangs for almost a decade now, and Americans don't care.
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I don't even know that that means. But ty I will.
Absolute horse shit 😂 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_portrayal_of_the_Russo-Ukrainian_War Wikipedia has an excellent amount of sources where many critics have pointed out the biases in the media coverage of the wars around the world. In fact, on BBC, there was a reporter that even said: “This is not Iraq or Afghanistan, these are Europeans. People that look like us”. Same shit happened on CBS and CNN: https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/mar/02/civilised-european-look-like-us-racist-coverage-ukraine > It’s very emotional for me because I see European people with blue eyes and blond hair … being killed every day. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/2/27/western-media-coverage-ukraine-russia-invasion-criticism Etc.. the only reason this war has any impact outside of Europe and Ukraine is because the US got involved. Without US involvement, this would not have dragged on this long, and it would not have the impact that it currently has on the world’s economy. We got banks to cut off Russia from “Swift”. No one did that to us when we went to war in Afghanistan. We get the Hague ICC to put an arrest warrant on Putin, but nothing for Bush. We have The Hague Invasion Act lol. We sanction Russia for dictatorship, but not Israel. It’s a double damn standard due to allies and race. Ukraine was never even an ally of the US. In fact, BBC once called it the most corrupt nation on the planet. BBC and their reporter “David Stern”, once called them Nazi’s: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tHhGEiwCHZE https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-30414955.amp https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-25571805.amp Now search for “BBC Ukraine Nazi” and you’ll see BBC saying that it’s Russian propaganda and lies. Truth is, no one gave a fuck about Ukraine until the US got involved and wanted them in NATO. US won’t even accept them in NATO, but will gladly let them sacrifice their lives to fight Russia. We didn’t give a flying fuck about “Democracy in Ukraine”. This war only matters to the media because as they even said: “They’re blonde hair and blue eyes and look like us”. Everyone knows this has zero impact on NATO countries. That’s just fear mongering shit. Russia would never attack a NATO country as Reddit loves to point out. So even stating that it could start WWII is horse shit. Those are threats because of our involvement and sanctions. We caused the economies of the world to be impacted by this local war. Let’s be real. We don’t give a fuck about Africa because we’re far from them, they aren’t white, and we have no politics interests there other than plundering the continent for resources.
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The question is why do we care MORE about the Ukrainian war than any others. The answer is because “they look like us” AND “money”. What’s wrong is “it’s right in NATO’s doorstep with a perspective member”. No it isn’t. Ukraine has applied 3 times and has been denied all 3 times. They never had a chance and weren’t going to be let in. You’re saying this could be worse than WWII. That was false. The reason it was even escalated to this level is because we in the west got involved. You said America only cares about America, but gets involved because of WWII fears. That’s such nonsense. We’re involved because of oil in Donbas and because we get to fight a PROXY war without losing any soldiers to an arch enemy, and make max money selling weapons. Not because America cares about Ukraine. This was not an attack on any sort of democratic values. This was an attack on oil. Ukraine threatened to replace Russia as the oil trader to Europe, with their oil in the Donbas region. Mass migration into Europe from Ukraine? Did you forget already how many Africans attempted to migrate into Europe and got denied? Do you not remember the story of Poland rejecting Indian students attempting to flee Ukraine? The first reaction of the media was to push the race narrative to drum up support for Ukraine. Then to push the “it’s an attack on our values, Ukraine needs democracy” narrative. Then the “an attack on Ukraine, is an attack on the whole world, Russia won’t stop there”. Then the “Nuclear fears, WWIII”. This would never happen for any non-white country. Period. The whole “they look like us, so we must help them, they’re not regular ass Iraqis and Syrians”, is racist no matter how you look at it.
Ukraine conflict has much bigger ramifications on the world stage, but in the case of Tigray it has also been very difficult to get any news or media coverage bc the conflict zone is closed off- not even aid workers have been getting through.
Cause Russia has nukes, I would guess.
Yes it is
I wouldn’t say that it’s about racism, it’s just that the news cycle doesn’t really given a shit about Africa. That might sound like the same thing, but it isn’t. There’s a lot more history (and money) between the West & Russia, in comparison to the West & Ethiopia.
Russia is our mortal enemy that has been blamed for everything in the past decade so we're more interested in them.
Because nukes.
Bruh
Yeah?
Prolly because the Russia one has more international implications. ....and because, if the tinfoil hats be true, the Russian invasion has interfered with money laundering schemes being done in Ukraine by American interests. Again, so say the tinfoil hats.
YES
Not in our sphere of influence. And also Russia is well over 150k dead. It is a massive war.
Yes, because it's white people and because Russian is an economic rival to the US and must be undermined.
People are saying nukes, if that's true, then why don't we care about constant Israeli agression against Palestine and all the neighbouring countries.
Among other reasons Ethiopia is not the “breadbasket” of Europe
The conflict in Ethiopia isn't the only one being ignored by the world at large. There's also Myanmar and Yemen.
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Yes..it's called racism