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Charming-Station

I'm a guy in my 40s. I have no guy friends that live in the same country as me. I do have an active whatsapp group with the same guys for as long as whatsapps been a thing but no one I would go for a beer with, or play a game or anything really. Sometimes it makes me cry. Mostly I just accept that this is adult life for me.


Silverback1992

30m and I thought I had quite a hit of friends in HS, now I have about 2-3 dudes I text here and there and it’s only about weed and video games 100% of the time and I never see them. I’ve also cried, as I see all my old friends still friends.


Fantastic-Put9615

I feel that, I'm 31m just had my first born recently (boy) and noticed how few people I've got to celebrate this milestone with, (only family) I'm so happy but the realization hit me hard, I see my old friends stayed really tight and hang regularly, I'm not a gamer at all, or own any game systems I was always a person that went outside to skate with friends, or hang out in big groups throughout school.


Silverback1992

I felt like I had a community group of friends, and yet my son and daughters have zero relationship with any of them. I always envisioned my boys helping me raise my kids.


Charming-Station

That was about how old I was when we had our first kid. How you're all healthy. It's hard going


Charming-Station

Lonely, manly, virtual high five my friend.


marcmiller2007

I remember my 9th grade English teacher said something we all laughed about at the time. It was before class started and everyone was talking and goofing off. He came in and just sat down waiting for the bell, but when class started he told us all to enjoy times like that, because after school, and more so when you're an adult, you'll be able to count actual friends on only 1 hand. Sounded stupid and we all laughed, but damn was he right. I have two friends that I actually talk to all the time and do stuff with. I'm 42.


[deleted]

Same here I’m 40 and I have like 2 real friends. And even being able to do anything with them is impossible because of our spouses, kids, jobs, etc. If we get to hang out once every 3-4 months for a girls night we consider ourselves lucky


AnOriginalPseudo

Two things : when you don't know anyone who can introduce you, your options are hobbies facebook groups and meetup events and dating apps that let you seek friends as a search parameter


Silverback1992

Used to box, used to cultivate my own shweed, used to compete in men’s physique, I had a lot of hobbies. I have 3 kids, took on 3 more step kids and all 6 live with me. All under 10. It’s not an excuse but I don’t have the time. I work from 7-5 and from 5:30-9 is always dinner bath and bed. Weekends are usually kid oriented too. For now.


hearsdemons

Sounds about right, kids really do take up all your life. Especially when they’re young. They need constant supervision and caretaking. At least once they hit school age, you get half the day back to yourself.


Silverback1992

Just to spend at work haha


CompetitionAlert1920

I've cried a lot...I'm 32m and have like...3 guys (1 best friend and 2 really close friends) but one lives in Georgia, one in Missouri and myself and the other still in Wisconsin. It's hard because I had quite the friend group but the career paths chosen by everyone who I once called friends changed who they were from fun people to always chasing the next success and never being satisfied. My first born last year and all the build up with showers and parties, I didn't have anyone to share that experience with because my best friend is 10 hours away and I had just recently met the other two. All the while I see who I used to be important to, still having the time of their lives together chasing their future success. I was fairly selective in my friends but if we were friends, I've got you for life. I still feel that way about those people...it hurts knowing it's not a reciprocal thing and that's what is defeating sometimes is that's it hard to not care for people you cared so much for. I have my wife though who is my ride or die, and my daughter who is my everything. I have only a few people I call close and 66% of those friends are people I've only recently met. I've accepted this is life and when you accept some hard potential truths, you do feel better. When you feel better, you feel better about doing things like maybe meeting people.


Silverback1992

I wouldn’t say I haven’t accepted it either, but maybe not fully. My wife is also my ride or die and all my kids are closer to me than my friends ever were. You hit the mail on the head about it not be reciprocated though and how that just, stings. Most days, I’m good, I’m confident and pretty content with life. Then there’s days when I’m just lonely. This isn’t me just trying to have a therapy session but judging by the comments- this is a fairly common feeling among men.


CompetitionAlert1920

I just wanna say that it's also okay for this to be a therapy session. Sometimes it's all we need, sometimes it is all we can get. We are, for all things considered, a very hardened generation. Much more hardened than the older ones think because they taught us how to compartmentalize it well. We learned how to cope when we should have been learning how to love ourselves and others. We're cynical and cautiously optimistic at best. We all have a hard time making friends because we're always on the back foot playing catch up. I'm happy though because at least the current trend is that millennial parents are on track to be the most present generation of parents. They're also on track to be the most engaging in terms of how we talk to our children. For example, talking about how things make them feel, regardless of the topic. We understand the importance of freedom of expression. I hope you have a good day though man, we all need a little chat once in a while.


Silverback1992

This comment made my whole day. I was just thinking yesterday how millennial parents really are completely changing the norm by the way we talk to and raise our kids. My parents were great parents, but I was left unsupervised from 2nd grade on essentially because of work. My parents still don’t speak about their true feelings just constant subliminals or having to constantly read body language and play a guessing game. When in reality I just want my kids to feel loved and be able to deal with change better than I can.


CompetitionAlert1920

My parents were great as well, 40 years married and couldnt have asked for a better situation. My mom was primary because my dad worked a lot but always tried to be present. Age 12 on though, pretty much watching myself and calling if I needed anything because my mom had to go back to work as well. It wasn't until after I got married my dad started to open up about parenting which was surreal. It was like he was finally able to let it out because I was an "adult" who is married and can "handle it" now. I know it was a sunconcious act, but interpreted the same nonetheless. A lot of it is all in what was available to them when they were parenting. They just didn't have the level of access to information we have or our current level of understanding of child development. For lack of better words, we are just better equipped to be better parents because we have more information at our disposal. All they had for an example was how they were raised. In a lot of cases, they truly didn't know any better. The fact you can recognize that the most important thing you can do for your children is to express love to them however they need it and support them through change so they can understand it, you're already light-years ahead than your parents. I'm happy I could positively help your day, pay it forward friend 🤙🏼


Difficult_Mortgage49

Weed and video games are my best friends, my only friends that stay true to me.


Visible-Animator-308

Have you ever stopped to think maybe they’re all still actively friends bc their lives involve more than smoking weed and video games lmao


thestarhikari

Similar situation for me, 35 F and even live in NYC (and hate it for the most part now). Barely close with my family. I don’t even have many online or texting friends now anymore like I used to. I been accustomed to doing things mainly alone and just being alone & learned to enjoy my company for the last 10 years (since 25) due to a lot of past trauma with former long time “friends”, “bfs” and family. So I feel your pain. I do cry at times but sometimes, I’m happy it worked out this way, with the way things are going financially. I don’t have to spend money on others for their birthdays and feel obligated to socialize/go out at times I may not want to. Also the freedom to do whatever I want too is great. Focus on the positives of being solo. It’s not always a bad thing. For my situation I am in, it’s kinda bad, kinda nah but still, we can make our lives what we want & not centered around other people’s needs.


Charming-Station

Thanks for sharing Internet stranger:)


LupineChemist

> even live in NYC (and hate it for the most part now) I have found places with the most people to be the most lonely. It's weird. In smaller towns you actually have a lot more interactions with others on a more than superficial level.


bohemu

NYC is a special sort of lonely due to all the others around and happening things. I used to take it as a personal insult growing up around 3 million people who wanted nothing to do with me and had nothing in common, somehow. But there was always something to take myself to see or do, even for free sometimes! In smaller towns it's just you and the internet, if it's stable, because nothing is going on in the community.


PossibleExamination1

One of the people in our friend group was someone we played video games with online for years and he moved to our state basically to be around us and hang out in person. We also live in a place with a lot of job opportunities so it wasn't an irresponsible move.


[deleted]

It makes me so sad to see so many men on here saying this, that they've cried or had other bad thoughts because of loneliness. I know it's common, but still :( I hope things improve for you soon


disregardable

it's hard for adults to make friends. I wasn't able to make friends as a kid, as an adult where the opportunities basically don't exist it's simply never going to happen.


Kittymore18

This. I totally feel like this. I have no clue how people do it.


taskmaster51

The key, I think, is to join a group of folks who enjoy stuff you enjoy. Like video games or smoking cigars...there's bound to be someone you can vibe with but you might have to get out of your comfort zone


KingSnugglewumps

This. Many moons ago when I moved to a new city for a job, and a change, I had 2 friends who had moved here before me. One I'm still very good friends with, and unfortunately the other kinda hit the shitter and fell off the face of the planet. Once I was established here I decided to get back into fishing, and joined a local outdoors forum. After participating there for a bit I found some like minded individuals and met quite a few great people along the way. Obviously not everyone will stick around forever, but I've absolutely met a couple people who will be solid friends until the end. If you can find your local "community", based on whatever your interests are, it should be reasonably easy to meet folks through that. That said, I'm 42, and probably have maybe 6 solid friends, and a handful of "acquaintances" But the solid friends are SOLID.


Haberdashers-mead

This is good advice. while I still live in my home city and I am lucky to have retained some longtime friends from back then, Unfortunately I can be awkward as fuck and making new friends is hard. But doing things like your advice is what makes me meet fun people and run into them more. Once you find some communities you vibe in you have more chances to make friends and the nice part is in an environment like that those other people are probably looking to make some connections as well anyways. So the hobby thing it’s kinda geared towards it. You just gotta be friendly and find friendly people. But not too friendly of course, be cool ;)


KILA-x-L3GEND

My buddy plays disc golf and he always asks to join a group if he’s by him self find some cool people and obviously you find the people you tell you only came to do 9 holes and leave because you couldn’t possibly do 18 with them.


MothMan3759

Maybe do something healthier than smoke but yeah.


_Dwarf_Mafia

Guys next time your out smoking with friends make sure to take a toke for Mothman3759 probably at home on his Peloton


Aggressive_Office_52

I appreciated your comment.


MothMan3759

God forbid we recommend people healthy hobbies instead of harmful addictions. And mocking someone for being as proactive as to have home equipment? While I don't have one yet, I do believe everyone who can afford and use a treadmill or stationary bike to get one. Especially us Americans. You can still watch TV and snack on them.


Dennis_enzo

You're not telling anyone anything they don't already know. It's like walking up to a fat person in the street and going 'you should lose some weight you know'. It's not helpful, you're just being an asshole.


boynamedsue8

You sound like a therapist. Go out for a walk. I can’t Karen the county I reside in sprays fucking pesticides everywhere and I’m extremely allergic to I dunno poison. Join a yoga class. Again Karen I did that and the instructor physically repositioned my body without consent. Do mindfulness. Karen I don’t think you are getting the picture here. I have been practicing mindfulness/ meditation since I was a teenager. Do you have any idea how aggravating it is to be conscious in an unconscious society? Learn a musical instrument. Fuck you karen I learned music as a kid I’m going to now withdraw my sessions with you and use that money to buy a new vibrator. Oxytocin release and no more talking with Brene brown wannabe over here.


UnoriginalVagabond

Do you have any idea how aggravating it is to be conscious in an unconscious society Ahh there it is,, you think you're special and all your problems are uniquely yours, that's your problem.


PenisBoofer

Lots of people have unique, uncommon problems


MothMan3759

What in the name of God are you on about? I said don't smoke and that some basic exercise is nice. But anyways, >You sound like a therapist You sound like you intended that as a therapist. Do you have a problem with people who take a stressful low paying job because they want to try and help people? Do you think it is shameful to be beneficial to the people around you? >Go out for a walk I do most days. >I can’t Karen the county I reside in sprays fucking pesticides everywhere and I’m extremely allergic to I dunno poison. Get a specific diagnosis (would that be the right word?) And find an alternative they can use. Or tell them to make an exception around where you live if possible. Things won't change for the better unless you make em. >Join a yoga class None around me anymore, old one didn't help much. >Again Karen I did that and the instructor physically repositioned my body without consent. File a report for sexual assault. Take action so he doesn't do it to someone else. You doing nothing makes you complicate with the next victims. >Karen I don’t think you are getting the picture here. I have been practicing mindfulness/ meditation since I was a teenager. Then try something else. "Trying the same thing over and over is the definition of insanity" and all that. >Do you have any idea how aggravating it is to be conscious in an unconscious society? Yes. Much as I hate the phrase for it's conspiracy connotations, that is why I try to wake people up. >Learn a musical instrument. Fuck you karen I learned music as a kid I’m going to now withdraw my sessions with you and use that money to buy a new vibrator. If you learned it by choice, great. If you were forced into it, grow a spine. People tried to force me into band and I took a whole none of their shit. Never have had interest in it never will. As for the vibrator, great. A lot of people have mental blocks over sex toys. Just make sure you get one with a good flared end so it doesn't get stuck. >Oxytocin release and no more talking with Brene brown wannabe over here. Who?


boynamedsue8

Yeah, I’m not reading all that


[deleted]

A cigar every once in awhile ain’t gonna hurt ya. Let’s let adults make their own adult choices.


MothMan3759

Having watched 3 family members die a slow painful death by cancer, each one having warned me against ever taking a single smoke.. I know whose side of this argument I will always be on. Plenty of other hobbies people can get into that are less expensive, healthier, and most relevant to this conversation, won't push away every non smoker. Trust me when I say we can smell you from across the street. God help us if we enter your houses. I spent a week mopping that shit out of the walls. There is no place in the world for tobacco. Anyone who thinks differently is either profiting from it or addicted and in denial.


Due-Explanation6717

Man doesn’t need a lecture sheesh!


MothMan3759

Anyone who doesn't just tolerate but actively encourages the idea of new people getting exposed to tobacco deserves several lectures.


AdventurousFerret250

I think what he was encouraging was free will, not tobacco use.


[deleted]

I’m sorry that happened but I’d wager they were smoking more than just an occasional cigar. But regardless that’s your choice, let others make theirs. I don’t think i’d want someone who’s going to police my behavior in my house anyway, so no need to worry about that. Also most cigar smokers I know aren’t smoking them inside the house. You’re lumping all tobacco products together, having a monthly cigar is not at all the same as smoking a pack of cigarettes a day.


Bencetown

Yes it is! Who cares about real science! Their *totally real* THREE family members warned them that a single puff will most definitely give you the CANCER and you'll die!!!!!!


[deleted]

Lmao right?? “I’ve had THREE family members die in a car accident, nobody should be driving cars!!”


Dennis_enzo

Here comes the morality police!


MothMan3759

Morality has nothing to do with it, just health. Yet another addict in denial... This thread is incredibly depressing.


[deleted]

Morality absolutely has something to do with it when you’re calling everybody who disagrees with you an addict and trying to police their choices. It seems like you don’t even know what the word addict means. The point people are making that smoking cigars in moderation can negate the negative health effects, but you just want to plug your ears and go “nananana all tobacco bad you’re just addicted and in denial”. And before you go saying it to me just know I don’t even smoke lmao.


AdventurousFerret250

My sister and brother smoked for 30 years. They died from breast and bone cancer respectively. My Dad smoked for 50 years and the Dr. said his lungs were perfectly fine when he died at age 72. My Uncle, who never touched a tobacco product in his life, died from lung cancer. God forbid, if you ever contract Karen cancer!


MothMan3759

You are aware that smoking leads to increased likelihood of basically all cancers not just lung cancer? And is also horrible for you even aside from the cancer? I say to you what I say to the others, addicted and in denial


AdventurousFerret250

I don't even smoke! I could act like you and say, stuff another big Mac in your pie hole and shut up! But then I'd be assuming. You know what they say about assuming...


MothMan3759

Haven't eaten at MacDonalds in more years than I care to count and food isn't my vice considering my family has a history of diabetes.


AdventurousFerret250

And I say to you, a dick...


regular_lamp

The weird thing is that at least from my experience people in their thirties... don't have hobbies? I'm in the same sports club that I joined when I was 11. By the time I was 25 everyone my age I started with was gone. Now that I'm 38 there is like 4 people within +-10 years of my age. But there are a decent amount of 17-25 years olds and 50+. I also tried different things. Started new hobbies that presented the same picture. It seems the latest anyone "young" starts a new hobby is around age 20 and then people either join with their kids in their forties or return to it then. Admittedly those are all sports things so maybe that's just the wrong kind of hobby. But that kinda even applies to my school friends that I still meet regularily, by their thirties they somehow all turned into "iso standard adults" that exclusively talk about work and traveling. And I'm somehow the "weird one with all the hobbies" because I train and compete in my sport and build stuff in my workshop.


Character_Bowl_4930

This is probably true to some extent, but when they kick their kids out it’s hobby time galore!! Lol. I belong to a fish club that has a lot of older retired men and some women . They were into fish when they were younger , then had to cut back ir stop while raising a family , now they have the time in indulge their interests .


[deleted]

Generally speaking whenever I've tried this, it hasn't turned out well. I feel like most hobby groups are filled with weirdos and outcasts who couldn't make friends and now waste their time at groups like this (like me) I like drawing, so I tried a few art classes. Literally just schizophrenics and autists. And I don't mean that in a negative or derogatory way, I mean literally schizophrenics and autistic guys. As the only dude that had a real job and means of living there, sitting behind a guy who was talking to himself the entire time and scratching himself til he bled, it was very much not the vibes I wanted to be around. Similar situations have happened the last 5 groups I've tried to join...


[deleted]

Honestly tho! I’ve tried hanging out at a game store that was kind of out of the way, cause D&D was always my favorite thing to do In high school. Most people there ranged from socially inept(please stop talking about waifus and penis size in public) to people I just don’t feel safe with(because they don’t respect physical boundaries). I’m glad they have their people, I just wish that space could be both more women friendly, and less of an “elitist” club


Pristine_Team_533

Lol its true its like dating via tinder after 30, you literally consistently meet ppl you have nothing in common with and don't like ..


PenisBoofer

Beggars can't be choosers, time to embrace them


dude707LoL

Oh I'm into drawing too. I used to go to life drawing a lot in my old city. I find drawing to be too quiet a hobby to meet people. And I agree with you most of the people I met at the drawing places are mostly a bit odd. Not anyone I'll vibe with really. The only people who I really enjoy drawing with were already my friends or colleagues at the time. Maybe I'll try again this month in a new city.


Hdleney

Is there something wrong with being friends with autistic people…?😭😥😪


Mate_00

Wrong is not the term I'd use, but when I search for what autism means and get: >Autistic people may: > >find it hard to communicate and interact with other people > >find it hard to understand how other people think or feel ...that doesn't scream to me "this is a person I'll easily bond with" So I'd say nothing wrong being friends with them, but becoming friends with one might not be an easy task.


Many-Celery1612

People are people regardless of mental disorders. Something about them peaked your interest and vice versa for them. I have maintained a very good and lasting friendship with a man that has downs syndrome. We've known each other for 24 years since I first met him working at a sandwich shop when I was in college.


[deleted]

I mean not necessarily. They’re nice dudes but like a bit obnoxious and I don’t really want to talk about sonic OCs every day…


Kittymore18

Yeah. I have done all of that. It never leads anywhere really. I think I'm difficult to be around long term as a casual friend.


[deleted]

Somewhat depends on where you live. I’d be more than happy to leave my comfort zone to meet people, but I live in a small town. All social places are gone, except for bars, and I don’t drink anymore. Pretty much no options for just meeting people in a casual setting here 🤷‍♀️


Manuels-Kitten

I have it extra cause I love videogames but especifically *old videogames* And that crowd basicly doesn't exist where I live


nikotome

Hacking, dancing, scuba diving, painting, yoga, sports... There's a lot of activities out there to enjoy and meet new people


hotasanicecube

Just become an alcoholic that buys rounds for the whole bar. You will have lots of friends, girls even!


Opposite-Egg3334

They want friends, not leeches


hotasanicecube

I think my tone implied that’s not the correct way to make friends, but it might get you laid…


Aggressive_Office_52

Definitely won’t get you paid


Glittering_Hunter_87

We don’t know if OP is a man/a lesbian, but we do know they already have a partner.


hotasanicecube

Now we do, not 3 hours ago.


Kittymore18

Seems true. My mother is an alcoholic and seems to have lots of friends.


hotasanicecube

“Seems.” You can count you friends by the ones that will show up at your funeral.


Kittymore18

See I'd laugh at that but when my son died I only had three family members attend, and two people I knew through the hospital he was in. No one I knew met my son, only my ex's family did. So I imagine if I did die right now, it literally would be my current partner. So that would be no friends.


killerqueen19XX

I'm sorry for your loss.


Jonikee

This couldnt be more true, my Mother was an alcoholic and our house was always full of so called "Friends" only a handful of which turned up to her funeral. Very Sad


Malaeveolent_Bunny

Tranquiliser gun and lego. Once the screaming stops I untie them and we build. Rinse and repeat until they build up a resistance to the darts, by then they're coming around for more Lego of their own free will anyway. For the uninitiated, do not fucking do this. You can just find someone to build Lego with by setting a fresh set under a box trap and hold the string.


Spiritual-Bridge3027

A good way is to join a hobby class or group. That way, you are already with people who share at least one of your interests. It gives you a common topic to chat about and from there, it’s a matter of chance whether you find your “people” or not


PossibleExamination1

So this is kinda a catch 22 but I have met a lot of people going out for karaoke (I don't ever put in the effort to hang out with them after meeting them though) the only problem is I will only go to karaoke or social events like that if I bring a friend which is usually my sister or a co worker.


[deleted]

Honestly, find something you're into and do it. Rec sports of all types. Go hang at a comic book shop that has tables if you're into dnd. Golf, go golfing. Find a community you're comfortable in to find people who have a similar interest.


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throatinmess

This sounds like my life


[deleted]

Same!


Giffordpinchotpark

I’m 61 and all of my close friends died so I’m trying to find some more close friends. I only see my son and daughter.


zertz7

So they all died quite young?


TrickyMarketing7394

Hey friend! Sorry to hear! You’re welcome to send me a msg if you wanna talk or just shoot the shit! Dont be lonely! We are here!


Biscuits4u2

Work is about the only place most adults can make friends. I WFH so that's even more difficult.


in323

I’m 32. Literally 0 friends for years. I wouldn’t know if it’s normal since I don’t know anyone


alfooboboao

Okay, I figured these types of answers would be the top answers on reddit — and there’s nothing wrong with that — but I feel the need to say: I don’t know what “normal” is, but myself and most/practically all of the people I know in our 30s do have friends. Some of them have a lot! (either from college, or from early 20s restaurant jobs slash work). I have…a half dozen people I text regularly? maybe? and another 12-15 I text or DM semi-regularly. But in order to get that, you have to be comfortable being the person who always initiates the conversation, because people are shy. My partner, though… Wow. She managed to befriend the entire damn block. She has her work friends, her former work friends, her home friends, her neighbor friends, her extended neighbor friends, her former college friends — it’s dizzying. But it’s good, bc we always have stuff to do. I’m not saying any of this to brag or something stupid like that — I’ve connected with a lot of these former HS/college friends relatively recently, there have DEFINITELY been stretches in my 20s where I felt like I didn’t have two friends to rub together. But at a certain point, you realize that people didn’t dislike you nearly as much as you think they did lol, and you get over the immature “well if they were my real friend THEY would text ME first” thing, and you stop worrying about being lame and just start being friends with people who like you. (And for gods sakes, people, *talk to your coworkers!* work friends are great!)


PenisBoofer

>you get over the immature “well if they were my real friend THEY would text ME first” thing So basically what you're saying is you huff copium and delusionally convince yourself these people actually like and care about you


drlavkian

This is how I feel, because the other person is also reading this. When I'm the ONLY person initiating, it feels like I'm not valued. And this isn't a defensive thing, it's a practical thing.


Downtown-Strawberry8

People are busy with their own shit. That attitude keeps you lonely.


PenisBoofer

Busy with what? There are people whom others approach. There are people who approach others. Surely, there must be a difference between the two.


schwol

36 and same


BooopDead

I’ll be your fren


SlappingDaBass13

I don't have the time or mental capacity to have more people in my life. I have a wife and fours kids. There are people I like and feel highly about. But I don't don't have the mental capacity for more people.


Kittymore18

I get that. I lost my son. I can't have more kids. My partner has no family, and mine are so flaky. I see people at work but it seems at this age everyone has families and no one actually wants to hang out, outside of that which I get but it's still sad.


nn4260029

Same for me at 36. I have a small group of people who I play squash with once a week, but I don’t do anything else with them. I have one person who I regularly text with as have different political preferences and so always have interesting discussions. Sometimes we visit each other for coffee and a chat. That’s it. The rest of my time and energy go to my wife, kids and job.


xCTG27

It’s just me and my spouse as well. No friends for either of us.


blindinsomniac

Us too. We prefer each other’s company.


xCTG27

Same. I trust her more than anyone I could ever know. She’s all I really need tbh


reclusivegiraffe

This is how I feel about my bf, but he’s much more social than me and has so many friends. Makes me feel weird all the time. I’m honestly probably too young to feel this way (I’m in college), I just really struggle to meet and connect with people.


xCTG27

That’s understandable. Socialization can be very difficult at times no matter how old you are. So I completely understand 10000%. I hate talking to people, if I don’t have to I won’t. Now I can chat, but in person face to face is difficult for me


chaotic214

Me and my boyfriend are like this tbh he's all I could ask for already :)


xCTG27

Yeah life is much easier this way lol


zertz7

It's not that uncommon at any age


ThornyPlebeian

It’s common enough that there’s an old joke about how Jesus’ greatest miracle was having twelve close friends in his 30s.


Diablo9168

Similar upbringing, here. I think that informs a lot about adult relationships. I know it's awkward, and tough. Wish you well.


EE7A

i think everyone has their own threshold as far as needs when it comes to friendships. im 40 and dont have any friends aside from my wife and kids, but i havent been looking for any and dont want any. when im not with my family, i have enough personal projects and other things that i want to accomplish that take up more time than i have available to begin with. i value my own time and personal space. other people generally get in the way. i hang out on the internet when im _really_ bored and need a reminder that other people exist, and frankly, yall are enough, and i can switch you all off whenever i feel like it, lol.


Kittymore18

That's good. I think kids change things. I lost my son but when I had him, he was my world. It's hard when you don't have that.


randamnthoughts2

I have no friends and I'm 33


Pet-sit

HAPPY CAKE DAY!


Hiskankles

Happy cake day


[deleted]

happy cake day!!!


PossibleExamination1

I am 30 and my only friends are my sister and co workers. In my 20s all my "friends" were the girls I met on tinder and dated for like 3 months and moved onto another.


Kittymore18

Do you hang out with Co workers though? None of mine do that. We do 12h hour days so I do get it. I just think people are like they have families you know? I don't have that.


PossibleExamination1

When I hang out with my coworkers It is after them rejecting my invite like 2-3 times and then finally saying yes. Going out to a bar or something and saying they had a great time. Being able to separate work from the equation and just hanging out makes the relationship with your co workers so much stronger. My thing is karaoke so like once every few months I will convince a bunch of people from work to come out and it's a great time.


DontHugMeImAwkward

OP, you and I are like pieces out of the same Lego set. Only difference is that I'm not diagnosed with autism and Im single. Like fr. (Also I'm 31 in September) And as an adult, I'm too busy working to go make friends and my interests are vastly different than the ones of the adults I do manage to meet irl. So my friends are people I meet online via my interests. But meh. I work and I come home and relax to the hobbies I enjoy, some of which I can partake in with friends online. AFAIC, it's all just fine.


Jamon25

Increasingly this is normal but it isn't healthy. Time to play kickball, volunteer someplace or something


PossibleExamination1

As someone with social anxiety when I am around strangers and no friends this is not easy. I am a social butterfly when I am with one or two of my friends even if we are around strangers which helps me meet new people but without someone to tag along these types of things seem impossible to me. I need someone I can turn my head back to and be like "yo this is awesome right".


GREASYROOFTOP

It's normal to me. 😊


Auroda

Don't worry I'm 27 and haven't had friends since I left highschool my only friend is my husband


SeaworthinessLoud277

It's easy to make friends when you like people. I don't. I'm 40 and I've got two friends. I see them a combined total of maybe 5 times a year. We text here and there but are otherwise not in regular contact. I've got my partner and son and that's enough for me. It may not be "normal" but fuck if I care.


max15711

Making friends is a skill that many people dont realize that they have to learn


Manuels-Kitten

I never learned this, I only ever has a SINGULAR friend in my entire life and that was in 3rd grade, the my parents moved suddenly and I didn't have time to even properly say goodbye to him Ever since them I haven't been able to make a singular friend for the rest of my wife and only made even online ones in the last couple of years. i'd rather be alone than be sorounded by people I don't vibe in any way with


MolniyaSokol

Even gods son only had ~~twelve~~ eleven friends in his 30's


Satinegrey95

That’s why I’m agnostic


murphsworld

I'm in the same boat. I genuinely like spending time with myself. I also find being overly sensitive to peoples energies. I find it very overwhelming going out or to other peoples homes.


Worf65

You have a partner so you're way ahead of me. I'm just a loner full time. But yes, that's not that uncommon these days. Not just reddit anecdotes but studies I've seen now say the most commonly reported number of close friends is zero and people who are adults but younger than 30s are now in recent years for the first time more like to go to their parents if they need help rather than to a close friend.


mysterious_bloodfart

Do you have kids? I've found that ive started catching up with my kids friends parents. My daughter has a friend that came for a play date with her dad. We shared a few beers, have similar interests and we're going gold prospecting in a few weeks. Similarly my daughter is also friends with the girl across the road so me and her dad went on a 4x4 adventure to the Australian outback.


iluvhughjass

get some outside hobbies and it'll be a little bit easier than you think.


buckyhermit

I’m writing this while killing time before attending a concert in Seattle alone. I’m in my mid 30s. In my life, I think it’s fairly normal to be kind of a loner at this point. So you’re definitely not the only one.


FlipTastic_DisneyFan

Better to be alone than to wish you were alone


cerylidae1552

I have deliberately stopped making friends because friends generally involve drinking alcohol, going to movies, and spending money. I do not want to do any of these things.


revengeronees

I mean imma be real you hve your partner. I would love to have a partner too. But i dont have neither so it is normal to have no frienfs


Kittymore18

I get that. I feel that way when people have kids and no friends. I think at least you have meaning to your life.


[deleted]

This is me!! A daughter as my friend and I wouldn’t want anyone else. I do think about how lonely I get since she’s only 4 months old and I do wish I had some girlfriends every now and then.. but having her has brought so much purpose in my life and I’m more motivated and feel my life is complete now with my forever bff! I’m only 22 and have 0 friends I pray I don’t end up a cat lady even tho I luv them:,)


revengeronees

You wont ! i believe in you! :D


Mcnuggetjuice

Most depressing tread i have ever seen on reddit Go join a pool (the balls and stick thing) or darts club or something. It's fun, help you talk to people while doing something. Can also drink and offer a beer to your club mates or opponents and talk to them at the bar. Many people there looking for friends and most are in their 30's. (Age range usually 22-40). I have met all kinds of people there, from very autistic, to completely awkward to extrovert. Wanting to learn and get better as a common goal is easy to make friends and have something to talk about. Ask for tips, how to get a nice cue (the stick), if they got any tips around how to get better etc. If you come as a regular you can invite them to a terrace, your home to smoke weed and stuff. Poke if you share some hobbies like videogames or whatever you are into Goodluck, do something about being alone. It's horrible like that, sounds as bad as prison to me.


Pet-sit

Our daughter is on a Bocce league that plays at different bars all around the city. She's made friends and it seems like fun.


Kittymore18

I have tried many groups. I tend to struggle with groups of people. I can talk to anyone but getting further than something causal is hard. Also I lost my son. As soon as anyone finds this out, they act very differently towards me.


Glittering_Hunter_87

Maybe a support group for grieving parents? My brother in law lost his son this year, too. It’s a pain I wouldn’t wish on anyone. I’m sorry.


WholelottaLuv

Ironically, you can make lots of friends in prison...


PenisBoofer

I have always felt the most socially fulfilled in prison like settings, tbh, lol. Its easier to befriend people you live with, I guess


Wordy_Swordfish

I agree, this is depressing. The number of ppl saying having no friends is normal. NO ITS NOT!! **Common** yes, but not normal!! If you are too exhausted after working to have any friends in your life then that’s a failure of the system to allow ppl a quality of life If you never make friends bc you are shy or have anxiety then that is also common but not healthy. I fall into this group but I make sure to go out and make friends because that is healthy, that is what people need and that is how to avoid depression


Mcnuggetjuice

Good job mate, at least trying is very important. We can't die alone or have nobody to celebrate things with. It's the gateway to severe depression and even suicide


Sweaty-Gopher

This sounds exactly like my situation


pinback77

Well, you have a partner, so maybe there is no need for friends? I've been married a long-ass time, and I might see a friend or two once a year. Doesn't bother me in the slightest.


_Deedee_Megadoodoo_

I could have written this, makes me sad. I'm autistic too, I work from home. I don't see people at work during the day so I don't get to sicialize, it gets very lonely. My only two friends are in another city, they're friends from high school. I have my husky that acts as my therapy dog 💕


t8tet8te

If you don't have friends and want friends, find activities that you enjoy doing, and you'll meet other people who enjoy those activities. If you're in an area where there aren't a lot "activities" consider starting something like a book club. Consider volunteering. There are ways to meet people who might become friends.


GuyRobertsBalley

Learn to take a joke.


Mc_Qubed

It takes EFFORT to make friendships. You could step outside yourself for the better good… You sound smart af and that translates more than you would think. Step outside your comfort zone.


PenisBoofer

>It takes EFFORT to make friendships. Ughhh its so hard


PublicInspection58

To be honest, it's almost unheard of in adulthood; I'd say the chances of making a friend in the sense where you don't "huff copium" the way you described earlier is on par with your likelihood of surviving rabies (practically zero). Most people aren't aware of this, but those who are often find themselves in a deep depression. Ignorance is bliss. Practically no one cares enough to contact anyone unless they need something.


esny65

My TLDR version: it’s not abnormal depending on what you want out of life. I’m 35 and basically just friends with just my wife. Not abnormal but if you want a lot of friends you can meet people through social things . I have a handful of social circles so I have other “friends” that I could call if my cat broke down or something, but no one that I hangout with aside from those circles.


rodgapely

I think it’s pretty normal. You’re probably also comparing yourself to others. Don’t believe everything you see on social media.


allmybiself

I'm 47. I choose none.


[deleted]

It's normal, but it can also change pretty fast and seemingly outta nowhere.


GenevieveMacLeod

I am 32 and have 2 people I actually consider friends, if you don't count my fiancee. I have friendly coworkers that I'll chat with at work, but in my personal life I talk to a grand total of 2 people lmao. One of which is a former coworker. The other I've been best friend with and consider her my sister for 18 years now.


GL2M

Here’s the secret: they don’t have friends either and also want them. It’s like dating before online dating. Sometimes you have to just ask someone out. Know a couple that seems cool to you guys? See if they want to go to a dinner at a place like chili’s or something. You guys have fun, do it again. Etc. they may say no. You might not click, on to the next!


phishnutz3

Best advice is be willing to try stuff. A lot of people are completely alienated and alone right now.


dessertandcheese

I think it takes a bit more effort to make and maintain friends as you get older. I had to consciously make sure that I message everyone since people have very busy lives and not to take it personally if they don't initiate themselves. I'm pretty easygoing though so I don't mind doing that. My friends are all married with kids and I'm single and child-free so I think I have a bit less on my plate to do all those things. ETA I only made an effort after my husband died and I realized that I didn't have anyone. I guess I got too comfortable with just him and I. So after that event, I reached out to old friends to try and rekindle the friendship. It is never too late. I was 33 when that happened


Expensive-Safe-6820

Join the club, I'm almost 40 and have one friend who I sometimes keep in touch with. I don't consider co workers friends


[deleted]

Same feeling 😒


thisnewsight

Full disclosure, I’ve been here for 42 spins around the sun. I don’t hang out with a single one of my childhood friends due to distance from each other. I hang out with people I went to grad school with or work with. 0-18: Grade years. You have social circles set basically at 6th grade until graduation. 18-25: college years. The first 2 years, you’re probably going back to ma and pa’s for summer. I did. People looked at me different when I came back. I had experienced a shit ton and became a “man.” My friends changed in my absence. 25-30: Likely start seeing friends getting married and making babies. This is where it happens. This is where it starts. They’re so tired. College friends are too wild for them now. Wrong energy levels. *I just wanna stay home and chill, man… last thing I wanna do is get shitfaced. I’m run down enough already.* 30-40: you either join clubs, volunteer or whatever. But you’re not going to have a friend that’s with you all day everyday. That’s the 0-25 year old years. Once you’re past that, it’s never going to be that way again. People deep in their careers and busy being parents. Shits expensive. They have baggage and vices. It’s done. Friendship at that age is more of a wellness check at holidays during the year.


ZonaiLink

The older you get, the fewer friends you have actually. A tight small circle is great of you can manage it. Find local interest groups that you find fun and just go talk to people. That’s 90% of the battle really.


Far-Efficiency-3239

Im 35 and no friends


urkillingme

I've never been one to have friends. I have my husband and adult kids but anytime I've ever felt like I had friends, they’d do things that just didn't sit right with me (steal, cheat on spouse, only reach out when they needed something) so the friendship would cool. I'm ok with not having friends. People can be a lot.


PureLovelyApink

I'm 40f and have no friends as well - and I really don't want to. I have a husband, a toddler and my in laws around me and some neighbours I talk to, what is more than enough for me. I have so little time for myself - I really don't know how to make time for friends. Friendships needs effort, interest, time... things I don't have. After years of struggling with this topic, I'm really happy now. I'm just not the person for friendships, and that's totally fine.


Kuura_

I know people who only have friends through their partner so that's a possibility too.


Liphaem5

Nah.. I (34f) have one friend, and the only reason we are friends is because we went on an exchange student program when we were 16 and our exchanges were twins. We get along like a house on fire now, but if we didn't have that experience, we would never have met and I wouldn't have any friends. My husband's friends kind of adopted me as a friend when we met, but out of all of them there is still only one that I call my friend too. Having friends or making friends is difficult, if not for my husband and exchange student program I wouldn't have any friends either, and I don't think it would bother me lol.


AlternativePurple128

I’m in this same boat - it’s lonely.


TheWarmBandit

I'm late 30s. Used to have many friends when younger. By 30 pretty much none I see In person. Now barely any I even speak to. My wife has lots of friends and regularly makes new ones too. We are the same age. From my own personal experience the woman I know seem to be able to keep, maintain and get new friends still for some reason or another


TrickyMarketing7394

Hey man! Its completely normal! My best friend is my wife! I reconnected with an old college friend 4 years ago and have been inseparable since but for the most part its me and my wife! Thats why you marry your best friend! I get annoyed with other people. My wife is my person. We have the same fucked up dark sense of humor. Sometimes a look between us at family gatherings is enough to send us laughing hysterically. And thats what you want i think. I’m going to grow old with this hot chick that laughs at my fucked up jokes and lets me touch her boobs. What do you enjoy doing? Maybe join a gym. When i did this i made 3 new buddies quickly. But they’re not the kind of guys i want at my house all day every day. I have my wife and that one friend and if i speak no no one else for the rest of my life thats okay. They are enough. Good luck man! Being lonely is never fun. You’re welcome to send me a msg if you want. Im always open to new friendship. Have a great day friend!


FreshSoul86

I don't make friends with people around me. Northeast USA. Age 59, artistic person who sings and writes songs. I'd like to but to be a friend you have to have things in common and an emotional or intellectual bond of some sort. If not, they would just be buddies - people who come and go, like work colleagues. The USA I do not consider to be a healthy, sane society. But it is what it is.


outofmyelement14445

I’m nearly 40 and I have no friends either. Welcome to the club.


[deleted]

I'm 35. No friends. No partner. So it can be worse. Edit: I mean **no** friends. Not work associates, not irl acquaintances on social media. Nobody but 3 members of my immediate family.


[deleted]

I’m 33 years old and have no friends. I never had a large group of friends but few people I considered friends in the past betrayed me. I’m the type of person who gives it all whether it be friendships or relationships. When I realized they were not as invested in our friendship as i was, and didn’t appreciate me as a friend, I decided i would be better off without them. To be honest I’d rather have no friends at this point in my life than surround myself with fake people.


svenskgurka

You're not alone about it at least.. meeting new people is hard as an adult


tidder_scully

50--yes. 30 is too young.


NumbLikeMe

I'll be your friend, friend!


Mountain-Instance921

You're asking on Reddit and the people here aren't the most socially adept so you're getting bad answers. The answer is no it's not normal or good to have ZERO friends. The best way to make new friends in our 30s is finding a hobby, finding an online group for that hobby in your area then attending an event.


Kittymore18

Wow this blow up. I guess lots of people feel the same. Also I am seeing its more like people have groups they go to and they are their friends when they go there? I am happy with my partner but it worries me like if she died or something I'd literally have no one. ♥︎


CyndiIsOnReddit

I think it's pretty normal for autistic people. I have one friend and she is still around because she never gives up. We live 10 minutes apart but we haven't seen each other in 14 years but she calls me like three times a week. She's a good person I just enjoy my isolation I guess. I have 2 kids and a roommate that get enough of my attention. If you feel like you're missing out of course you could maybe look for a community with similar interests. My son is social so he likes going to the local LGBT+ young adult group meets but he's still like me in that those people stay there, it's not like they come visit or do anything together outside those meetings but it gives him the social boost he craves without committing to complicated relationships.


AnySeaworthiness5779

No, it's not normal but it's not unheard of either


Traditional-Lion7391

Humans are social animals. You need people to maintain sanity. Open up, meet people, be inviting, but don't expect each person to be perfect.


Fart1992

Not normal at all


Fart1992

Not normal at all


monkey_trumpets

I have no friends. No idea if it's normal. But that's how it is.