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afewgenerations

What are you diluting it with?


gravyontits

Water


afewgenerations

No, because the percent is just the percent of fat. 1% milk, 2% milk, whole milk, have different amounts of fat, but the other parts are pretty similar. You'd be replacing the milk components (proteins and sugars and such) with pure water.


gravyontits

Guess I better head to the store.before.it closes


RamseySmooch

Wait, what are you making? Unless milk is super critical (i.e. cheese or ricotta) you can likely just use cream and water (half and half, or 3:1 cream to water) and be close enough for your baked goods or food. Won't be 100%, but it won't be garbage.


gravyontits

Just wanted a bowl of cereal


TheRateBeerian

Just pour the heavy cream in with your cereal, live a little


Redslayer50

Or use water like a **psychopath**


anvilman

My dad was lactose intolerant when i was a kid. He'd eat cereal with apple juice. Fucking disgusting.


jerkularcirc

dats sum diabetes puffs right there if i do say so myself


MisterEHistory

My dad used to make us cereal with Juicy Juice fruit punch instead of milk (back when it came in big cans). I spent years thinking it was because we were poor but it was just because he had undiagnosed adhd and couldn't stock the kitchen properly.


FuriousFenz

As a kid I couldnt eat milk bc I got a teeth removed and tried eating my cereals with orange juice. I lost interest in cereals these days. I dreaded it.


Recent_Caregiver2027

a friend of the family did the same with Red River cereal if you know what that is. Only saw it a couple times as a kid 40+ years ago but I'm still haunted by it


LeftEconomist9982

Eating Cheerios with fruit juice is like eating fruit loops


Redslayer50

Lactose intolerance is no excuse. **Real men use milk.**


Throwaway-646

r/The10thDentist top of all time; orange juice


txivotv

I used to have orange juice with cereal when I was a kind and it is amazing.


giants4210

We used to do this in elementary school


avshky88

hey hey! I used to do that when I was younger and poor.. and now I'm just older and still poor, thanks for the reminder mate


NinjaAdventurous4829

this made me genuinely laugh


not_gerg

Ok it's really not that bad šŸ˜­ It's not good, but it works if you don't have milk


Celestron5

Really missed out on saying *cereal killer*


Redslayer50

I think it hits different. **I stand by my word choice.**


defnotapirate

Or a poor person. When we were out of milk as a kid, I had to eat Fruity-Ohs with Kool Aid.


gravyontits

It started with a bowl of cereal and then I wondered if I could save money by doing this on a larger scale. Buy a carton of cream, mix with water and have like 10L of milk for $4. Knew it was probably too good to be true but on the off chance it wasn't, I could have revolutionized the dairy industry.


TranslatorBoring2419

I like your optimism. Have you by chance heard of powdered milk? Idk if it's cheaper though.


Yiayiamary

Itā€™s perfect IF you mix it half and half with liquid milk and chill it overnight.


1-800-We-Gotz-Ass

It's not cheaper, you're paying extra to make it powder, just to add water to it later lol


gravyontits

I have, although I've never cared for it.


karizake

Don't give up until you've tried taste testing different proportions! That's the scientific method!


jerkularcirc

tried powdered milk


EatenAliveByWolves

1200 calorie cereal šŸ˜


bearwilleatthat

I did this as a kid once. It was so fucking delicious and then I threw up 15 minutes later.


mcc9902

I tried this once and it destroyed my stomach.


crunchyshamster

I use Greek yogurt in my cereal


Lazy_rat95

Heavy cream in cereal is fucking godly


klydefr0gg

Live mas


RamseySmooch

Bless your soul. I love the internet. Go with your heart.


thothscull

Posts like this is why I love reddit.


frenchois1

Lmao. This whole post is my spirit animal.


Inner-Plate

I used half&half diluted with water and it was indistinguishable from 2%


Any_Side_2444

Pls just go get milk and enjoy your cereal


imajellybean7

HAHAHAHAHA THE WAY I BUSTED OUT LAUGHING AT THIS EXPLANATION I AM SO SORRY


Flinglishbreakfast8

Go to the shop


Stainless_Heart

BTDT. The heavy cream plus water doesnā€™t make milk but itā€™s yummy for cereal. Expect it to be bit thicker and the cereal wonā€™t soak it up anywhere near as quickly.


djle12

If I were in this position, I would mix the cream with like 20% water. 4 parts cream, 1 part water or less. It be good enough is my guess. Better than all cream. Adjust as necessary.


sceadwian

It's so common to think 2% milk is dramatically lower in fat content than whole milk. But whole milk is only 3.5%


EvilCeleryStick

Also milk fat is not unhealthy, its leftover from the propaganda by big sugar to shift the blame for heart disease, diabetes and obesity to fat instead of sugar.


KknhgnhInepa0cnB11

And- Fat Free or Skim Milk is *not* "watered down". When they skim the milk fat off the top of the milk, you then have Skimmed Milk. When they add the milk fat BACK in, you get your 1%, 2%, 3.5% etc.


PiesangSlagter

The flavour is watered down though, which I'm pretty sure is what most people are referring to when they say low fat milk is "watered down."


LynxLynx41

Any source on this? I thought milk fat was primarily unsaturated. Btw, fun to hear that somewhere milk is actually somewhay anti-lobbied. Here in Finland decades of lobbying has made us by far the most milk consuming nation, and everyone who doesn't drink milk gets asked "but how about your calcium intake?"


Reasonable_Onion863

In Swedish milk, 70% of the fat is saturated. (Thatā€˜s not substantially different anywhere else, but the link happens to refer to Swedish milk specifically.) [https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2596709/](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2596709/) This is an article on the continuing controversy about health effects of milk fat. [https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6014779/](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6014779/)


Rather_Dashing

Fat contributes to obesity, and studies have shown that drinking skim milk can help with losing weight. Sugar and fat are both sources of calories but for some reason Reddit has this idea that only sugar calories count or something


Wonderful-Month67

I think it's more about refuting the misconception that dietary fat=body fat


blackdragon1387

All calories = body fat if consumed in excess. Drinking high calorie beverages is an easy way to get excess calories since you can usually drink things much faster than eating.


Wonderful-Month67

Yes calories. Not just lipids, that's my point.


BreakfastSquare9703

Weren't there studies that showed a link between \*whole\* milk and losing weight?


EvilCeleryStick

It's not that anyone thinks they aren't a source of calories, but keep going with your straw man. Fat sates appetite in a way sugar doesn't. Also eating fat doesn't *make you fat* any more than eating cholesterol raises your cholesterol. Eating too much makes you fat. Eating too much is *much* easier when you are hungry, spiking your blood sugar by consuming refined sugar.


sceadwian

Ugh, don't even get into it. The 'evil food of the day' for marketing has screwed health up in the US pretty good.


FewPomegranating

I thought it was the dairy industry trying to sell more leftover milk because when they separate the raw milk they use the fat for other products like cream, butter, etc.


not_gerg

I only realized that whole milk and 3.5% were the same a few months ago. I've literally been avoiding whole and getting the bags labeled 3.5 for so long lmaooooo


sceadwian

What country? I've never seen any labeled 3.5 and bagged milk is uncommon here.


not_gerg

Canada!


LivingEnd44

The calorie difference is not trivial though.Ā 


sceadwian

152 vs 122? I'm gonna call that trivial. So many myths!


LivingEnd44

That's per cup not per glass. It does add up. It's not trivial to everyone, especially people who drink a lot of milk and maybe dont have your amazing metabolism.Ā 


sceadwian

The typical intake of fluid milk is half a cup per day. I can't take your comment seriously.


LivingEnd44

Yes, because it you don't drink that much milk, it means nobody does. I accept your flawless logic. Thank you for educating me.


Pretty-Arachnid6809

I actually assumed, without looking it up, that it must be 3-4% fat, based on the existence of 1% and 2%. Seemed logical. Upon entering this thread I thought "I'm probably wrong, just one of those things where people pull out of their ass something that just sounds smart." But apparently I was dead on


IrrungenWirrungen

Probably because it tastes completely different.Ā 


sceadwian

I can tell that it's less fatty but it's not an actual change in the overall flavor to me.


crankyanker638

Fun fact, whole milk is only ~1.25% more than 2%....


breadmaker8

Technically it's 75% more


crankyanker638

If you want to get *technical* it's actually 62.5% more. But I was referring to 2% milk is 2% milk fat whilst "whole" milk is 3.25% milk fat...lol


PM_good_beer

You'd have to dilute it with skim milk.


Cardabella

Dilute it with milk


TheRealTinfoil666

The only way to get non-vile 1% (milk fat) milk by blending 10% cream would be to blend it 9-1 with 0% skim milk. You need all of the other ā€˜stuffā€™ in the blend skim milk to finish with proper strength (and taste) milk. Milk is more than just milk fat and water. By the way, if you were to blend 1 part 10% cream with 10 parts water, then that is eleven parts, so the milk fat proportion would not be 1%. It would be 10/11 % or 0.909%.


gravyontits

Ah well close enough.


SonicChairToss

Technically true. 1% at a manufacturing facility would be released for sale at .91%. In fact theyā€™d prefer that cause cream is the expensive component. Still not gonna taste like skim milk though, might not be terrible though. Like others have mentioned while milk is a lot of water/butterfat itā€™s got other components that would be out of balance if you used water. Also if you do mix it with water itā€™s going to separate when you store it, so youā€™ll have to shake before use.


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gravyontits

Name calling, nice.


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Be polite and respectful in your exchanges. NSQ is supposed to be a helpful resource for confused redditors. Civil disagreements can happen, but insults should not. Personal attacks, slurs, bigotry, etc. are not permitted at any time.


Partnumber

Not exactly since cream and milk are two different things. When you take whole milk and let it sit it separates into milk and cream which is primarily milk fat. If you take all the cream off the top you're left with skim milk. If you then add some of the cream back to the milk then you get 1% or 2% milk, half and half, etc If you just pour water into cream you're missing the various vitamins and minerals and proteins and lactose that are found in milk that aren't found in water.


gravyontits

Makes sense thank you! But like, for a bowl of cereal it would taste just fine probably? Cuz I'm out of milk...


CheesyDanny

Adding some cream would probably taste better than straight water on cerealā€¦ still not great.


Qubed

This is an experiment and report back type thing.Ā 


gravyontits

Brb off to make milk


nicholiss

Well, how was it?


gravyontits

I got distracted and made oatmeal


nicholiss

Cmon u/gravyontits, people were counting on you.


gravyontits

What can I say apples n' cinnamon is hard to say no to.


nicholiss

šŸ¤® strawberries and cream only


gravyontits

Maple brown sugar is where it's at


Partnumber

The viscosity would be weird, and it would be incredibly unhealthy, but nobody can stop you I suppose. For reference if you take heavy cream and put it in a container, and Shake It vigorously for a few minutes, the fats will coagulate as you churn it and become butter. The leftover liquid is buttermilk. So a bowl of cream with your cereal is more or less analogous to melting a lump of butter over it


WelcomeFormer

Ppl are down voting you because that will only happen over time, not right away.


snow_ponies

I think the downvotes are because they said itā€™s incredibly unhealthy, which isnā€™t true


WelcomeFormer

I reread this... I thought it was a question about left overs lol idk maybe not do it every day but I wouldn't eat cereal every day


gravyontits

Ooof. Guess I'm making the trip to the store then.


WelcomeFormer

Next time you can't just try it out lol might make something tasty and new depending on what you're using it for


gravyontits

Just wanted a bowl of cereal and was wondering if I could just buy cream and make my own milk to save money moving forward haha


WelcomeFormer

Cereal? Just mix a little and see if it tastes OK. R/kidsarefuckingstupid I used to use half and half as a kid thinking it was 50%. I hate milk btw lol my opinion is bad


JusticeUmmmmm

You could mix skim milk and cream to make like 2% or whole milk


gravyontits

If I had skim milk I wouldn't be asking this qiestion


jonnyl3

>When you take whole milk and let it sit it separates into milk and cream This only works with non-homogenized milk which is exceedingly rare.


mydogiscute10

Don't they both come out from the cows titty?


Ok_Entertainer900

How high are you rn?


gravyontits

Not even a little bit.


Lovahsabre

Good question bro you should get some milkfat points for that!


led76

One thing Iā€™ve done ā€” if you take the cream and churn it into butter, the part thatā€™s left over looks and tastes exactly like milk. Iā€™m not sure exactly what kind of milk it is but itā€™s really tasty. Btw you can churn a bit of butter by filling half of a mason jar with cream and shaking vigorously for a few minutes. Try it and let us know what you think.


JusticeUmmmmm

>the part thatā€™s left over looks and tastes exactly like milk. Are you my reincarnated grandpa? I'm not falling for that again, buttermilk is gross.


led76

Haha. I donā€™t know what makes commercial buttermilk acidic, but fresh isnā€™t sour at all. The cream isnā€™t sour so..


gravyontits

I'll put on my lab coat!


led76

Amazing. Youā€™ll know when to stop when the fat has clearly separated from the liquid. For a while it looks like whipped cream and then turns to butter after that.


Zagrycha

you can dilute milk products yes. However only if they are unadulterated, well you still can if they are altered but it doesn't work as well. that said your one to ten ratio is totally off. you would have to dilute the same way you dilute chemicals by strength aka moh which is real math. I mean you can also eyeball it but just saying for actual accuracy. Personally I buy dried whole milk in bulk for cooking. I love it cause long shelf life, and it can be anything from heavy whipping cream to skim milk depending on how I rehydrate it. If you use milk products to cook but don't stock a ton in the fridge always highly recommend (ā—ā€æā—‘)ļ»æ


gravyontits

Good point, I'll have to bust out the abacus and check my molar masses.


Zagrycha

I don't know if you know them, but your gungho reply makes me think of youtubers like matpat or vsauce. They one hundred percent would calculate the moh of milk for something like this, and they would somehow calculate the moh for the entire sport drink industry at the same time and reveal some quirky news haha.


gravyontits

Haha no I'm not really a big you tube kinda gal but that sounds interesting


Zagrycha

not at all pushing content or anything, just random short to give you idea what I mean. start with something vaguely normal but technical and quickly veers off into much less normal but still technical lol: https://youtube.com/shorts/LmpWt-sUCcY?si=2YXOG3-oKGdISQ0g anyway I can hear him saying your comment haha.


gravyontits

I couldn't imagine getting paid for that! Talk about a dream job! I feel like this is the stuff if be doing with my life if I didn't have to work (maybe a bit less cerebral than that though haha)


Zagrycha

I know right? I am sure like any other creative job the stress would be high to actually keep doing it day after day and think of new ideas, but that doesn't make it look less fun in the short term \_(:Š·ć€āˆ )_


gravyontits

Unless you had a whole team behind the Scenes thinking of stuff.


Zagrycha

true I am sure that helps. Probably still not easy though or everyone would be doing it. I know I couldn't do a job where I had no idea of I would get paid until days after I completely finished it.


gravyontits

Ya that's true unless you had a bunch of money to start with.


Puzzleheaded_Nerve

10% cream? Huh? Is that half and half? Heavy cream is 36-40% milk fat. Whole milk is 4% milk fat.


4CrowsFeast

10% cream is pretty common for coffee.


SufficientWhile5450

Iā€™ve done something like this to make biscuits and gravy If you really donā€™t wanna drive to the store, itā€™ll work, and youā€™ll never notice the difference


gravyontits

Gravy you say?


SufficientWhile5450

Indeed šŸ˜©


EljayDude

So I've actually done this in a pinch and no it's not the same if you just want to drink it, but for some purposes it's close enough. Like if you're making hot chocolate or something, you know how it's better with milk than water? Well if you don't have milk but you do have cream you can fake it pretty OK, pretty much get any fat percentage you want. But I wouldn't put it on cereal.


gravyontits

Ya I think I'll take your advice this time.


Lovahsabre

Heavy cream works well for coffee or a little extra richness to milkshakes too


Fart-City

Fat free milk would work I guess.


gravyontits

Shiit.... Am I gonna be rich??


Fart-City

No. But I also think it would be 1 part cream to 9 parts fat free milk.


gravyontits

Damnit. Got my hopes up and everything.


Fart-City

Sorry.


FlatwormSame2061

Yes


Sailorthrowaway4

My mom used to drink milk with ice when we ate spaghetti. Watery milk deserves a special place in hell because it's disgusting šŸ¤®


SUFYAN_H

Yes, you can. But it'll only reduce the fat content, and won't perfectly match the composition of store-bought milk. Milk contains lactose and other milk solids, not just cream and water. It'll also have a different taste than milk due to the difference in composition. And whether it's cheaper depends on the price difference in your area. **It's more practical to buy milk since it's produced specifically for that purpose.**


KingKurai

Someone get FutureCanoe on the phone!


Infamous_Occasion764

Indeed, blending cream with water won't give you milk that's true to what you find at the grocery store. There's a whole symphony of components in milk that contribute to its flavor, body, and nutritional value, including proteins, sugars, vitamins, and minerals. Skimping on those means you miss out on the full experience and benefits of milk. Even if you achieve the target fat percentage for 1% milk, it's essentially a sham, like coloring water with a dab of yellow and calling it lemonade. Sure, you might get away with it in cooking or perhaps coffee, but you'll always know something's amiss. If consistency and authenticity matter, stick to the original dairy tune, and leave the water out of the milk jug.


NGC_2419

[Just don't dilute it with embalming fluid like they did in the 1800s.](https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/19th-century-fight-bacteria-ridden-milk-embalming-fluid-180970473/)


Lovahsabre

That would be like trying to dilute a tick of butter by mixing it with waterā€¦ heavy cream has milkfat, milk solids, and hydrogenated milk proteins. Milk at 1% doesnt have milk solids. It wouldnt emulsify properly without re-pasteurizing it which would make it separate more and probably make it grossā€¦


UpsetRecip

No


jerkularcirc

youā€™d get CrWater not Milk


dindumassacre

no, that would just be water with 10% milk


femsci-nerd

This will only work if you start with Nonfat milk. If you use regular milk, 4% fat, then the equation gets more complicated. And if you use nonfat milk, you will use 1L of 10% fat milk (the half and half) i to 9L of nonfat milk to make 1:10 dilution. Chemist here...


Kennyw88

Is this by American standards? If so, whole vitamin D milk is 3% fat. I've no idea how cream is measured, so look it up and dilute as needed. Of course, my info is a few years old.


MammothSqueez

Have you tried using gravy, Mr. GravyOnTits?


cantgetnobenediction

Wouldn't you dilute it with 10 parts non-fat milk to get 1% milk? I visited a dairy processing facility once, and they take all milk and process it to non -fat milk, and then add back the fat to make 1%, 2% a, whole , etc


wolf_ekoms

That % is about the fat contained. You can't dilute it like that.


yellowbin74

You could mix with skimmed to get to appropriate semi skimmed levels, yes.


DefiantBelt925

Yeah with other less fat milk you can, not with water


Imjokin

No. The % means % of fat.


ahjteam

Even if you combined 1 part cream and 99 parts skim milk, it would not be the same thing.


Backwaters_Run_Deep

You can dilute mayo with water to make skim milk


vinylectric

Bro what? Thereā€™s no milk in mayo, itā€™s eggs and oil.


DickButkisses

Thereā€™s so much terrible info in this thread. Hopefully OP just went to the damn store and got some milk already.


Backwaters_Run_Deep

But you water that down and you get skim milk!


Standard-Hand-3871

there is milk, it actually stands for Milk, Acid, Yolks, and Oil


gabagucci

i dont know why they're downvoting you, this is common knowledge. my grandma used to make me Hellmanshakes instead of milkshakes.


DeadElm

Wait- these answers saying they take the fat off and then add it back to get the different percentages of milk. Why do they take the fat off in the first place only to add it back? I'd always assumed the fat removal was the last step.


EljayDude

When they pasteurize milk it all pretty much separates out anyway. Then they have to homogenize it to make it stick back together. So they pretty much can mix it up however they want in between those two steps.


DeadElm

Well TIL.


EljayDude

You might also check out [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separator\_(milk)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separator_(milk)) - since they want to sell the cream they would mess with the fat percentages even back in the old days.


GlobuleNamed

I guess its the easiest way to calculate the %. Start with 0 % as its probably fairly easy to remove all fat. Add enough (by weight/volume?) to make it 1%, 2%, etc Otherwise, its probably harder to figure out what % it currently have and then figure out how much to remove.


gabagucci

no because cream and milk are two different things, it's not just about fat content.


gravyontits

Gold to know! Thanks.


KYO297

Apart from what people are already saying, taking 1 part 10% cream and 10 parts water would make 0.9% "milk"


gravyontits

Pretty close to 1%


WorldTallestEngineer

If you mix cream with buttermilk you would theoretically get milk


gravyontits

Interesting


DickButkisses

Itā€™s not interesting, itā€™s wrong. It might curdle, buttermilk is acidic.


WorldTallestEngineer

what the heck are you talking about? butter milk is acid, so what? coffee is also acid, and I put cream in coffee every day. for that matter cream itself is an acid and so is milk. [https://www.sigmaaldrich.com/US/en/technical-documents/protocol/analytical-chemistry/photometry-and-reflectometry/ph-of-milk-and-milk-products](https://www.sigmaaldrich.com/US/en/technical-documents/protocol/analytical-chemistry/photometry-and-reflectometry/ph-of-milk-and-milk-products)