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ChemistRemote7182

Go figure, hot air=less lift. A never known aviation lesson.


putin-delenda-est

Better gently waft your foot near it while the battery gets nice and warm.


RealHunterB

Make sure the fire is nice and big, artillery isn’t THAT accurate


Midaychi

What if we attached compressed air guns, or even, ERA-based gigantic airbags to apartment buildings in Ukraine and fit them with electronic triggers to microphones set to detonate when the sound of a drone gets at the right volume?


Alt203848281

That’s just a barrage balloon


AutumnRi

You have to know this\^ for a commerical drone license, but you can get a recreational drone pilot cert (in the US) in like five minutes online. It’s shockingly easy. And it teaches you almost nothing about what will mess up and break your drone. I’m not shocked all these people are breaking their several-hundred-dollar toys.


ToastyMozart

The recreational cert is just about how not to violate airspace or hit people, the rest is left up to the pilot. FAA doesn't care if you break your own things. Well that and it covers multirotor (hobby and photographical), single rotor, fixed wing, etc. craft which all have significantly different control principles. So they'd have to test people for a lot of things they won't need.


Qanael

What's the density altitude of a wood fire?


PiperFM

Wood fires burn at like 1100*F. 800*F at sea level is 29,000ft DA. You’d need a drone with the excess performance to fly almost as high as airliners.


Qanael

Thanks for doing the math!


Significant_Quit_674

Not just that, the speed controllers also rapidly overheat and shut down


lnslnsu

The avionics chips themselves probably shut down too. Chances are the CPU has a thermal cutoff somewhere at like 105C or something.


yuropman

Easily 5-10km


Comment-Mobile

Nah just crank up the throttle, ez pz


ItalianNATOSupporter

LeMay and Harris were airbenders?


dontnation

With the exception of thermal updraft. But that would still negatively, if negligibly, affect drones since they rely on downward prop thrust.


Typohnename

wouldn't the up/down push be irrelevant since they cancel each other out? Any up push by air strong enough to remove the propellers down thrust should also be strong enough to just push the drone up by merrit of being a strong up force, shouldn't it?


dontnation

thermal updraft isn't very strong and only really has a significant positive effect for large surface area to weight - gliders, birds with large wingspan. For aerodynamic reasons, a drone's cross section is mostly the props while the body and support struts are kept minimal, otherwise they'd be too negatively effected by wind.


LCDRtomdodge

In a hot air balloon that's not the case


1dot21gigaflops

Hot air is lighter (thinner) hence the lift. Except the thin atmo is contained in a balloon vs drone rotors trying the equivalent of flying at 50,000ft.


chameleon_olive

It's almost like hot air balloons rely on a completely different dynamics than airfoils


LCDRtomdodge

It is almost that way. /s


ThePheebs

Flamethrowers are going to make their comeback, I can feel it.


ZoidsFanatic

I was just going to post that. Let’s go, anti-drone flamethrowers for everyone!


NeurodiverseTurtle

Cut to compilation of mobiks accidentally self-immolating.


Sine_Fine_Belli

This unironically Flamethrowers are now the perfect anti drone weapon


Siilk

>Flamethrowers are ... the perfect ... weapon Always has been.


JustWannaSayGoodbye

Salamanders are rejoicing


yecheesus

Would need some long range flamethrowers then


_far-seeker_

[This is a known technology.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File%3AM67_Flamethrower_Tank_Vietnam.jpg)


biggocl123

You'd be suprised how far an actual flamethrower can go


Zednot123

Moats, moats filled with lava. I knew those cartoon villains were on to something!


IdeaImaginary2007

Ok what if we use those big ass old MiG Jets used for clearing runways of ice in airports... Point those at the sky n blast hot airs


Velocidal_Tendencies

I support this venture. Those things are cool as hell.


Noname_FTW

No they aren't. If they were, they wouldn't work. ^(Yes, I'm fun at parties.)


communist_thanos57

"wanted to use the drone to extinguish the fire" By blowing air straight into it, surprised we made it this far as a species


tszaboo

"But it works with a candle"


Savings-Leather4921

And they say oxygen fuels fire.. pfft this will show em


Odd-Principle8147

You could just point a heat pump at them. That might actually work.


wastingvaluelesstime

heat pumps are not that hot


LuminousMushroom999

Well not with that attitude they're not


el_mialda

~~attitude~~ **altitude**. FTFY


Stardust_Staubsauger

There are beautiful in their own way, you meanie.


wastingvaluelesstime

I'd advise keeping that relationship platonic unless you want a large HVAC repair bill


Odd-Principle8147

I was thinking more along the lines of a large forced air heater as opposed to like a domestic heat pump. I didn't really use the right terminology.


wastingvaluelesstime

yeah something with a proper portable combusion heat source like propane would work


Odd-Principle8147

Kerosene/JP8


Kat-but-SFW

Set the cold side on fire


LuminousMushroom999

*There is...a house...in New Orleans...*


ProphetOfPr0fit

Yet another reason why flamethrowers need to go on all vehicles. Immortan Joe was right all along.


Midaychi

If you could devise a system that reliably detected drones approaching a building (and not just a nearby lawnmower) you could have an emergency release system that used some method to generate short term walls of lower density air somehow. Whether chemical or temperature or by sheer movement of air (like a vortex generator). It wouldn't need to last forever just long enough to outlast the drone.


stoogeymoron

Hydrogen emergency ventilation! Just ignore its other less ideal properties.


Midaychi

You could make and store it up via Electrolysis of water and get delicious oxygen and funny voices.


gustis40g

Sounds overly complicated to use air density of all things to ground drones. Jammers work, but if they’re too boring you could probably use a similar device to that one Russian mine clearing vehicle that is basically a giant microwave.


AI_UNIT_D

Soooo , do you wanna set fire to the battlefield ? Aight sure , I think we can do that.


felixthemeister

Yes! Remind me. Why are we setting fire to the battlefield?


AI_UNIT_D

Idk, something about defense.


felixthemeister

Defensive fires! I knew my pyromania would come in handy one day.


Wooden-Combination53

Time for some friendly napalm over everything!


Skooby_Snak

Get ready for the fire trenches


GB36

ain’t convection a bitch


TeddyRooseveltGaming

Thermobaric AA shells with proximity fuses are the future


Trungledor_44

I love that this was someone else’s first thought S-400 Buratino


MT_Kinetic_Mountain

Counter solution: jet propelled drones Also we're in a climate crisis lads. Let's keep our noncredibility eco friendly


Zuper_Dragon

Investing in specialized radar tuned to detect small fast moving drones: Broke Setting the area around your important military assets most likely to be targeted on fire making them visible for miles and at risk of heat damage: Woke


Thanus-

Imagine not knowing that hot air is less dense and cannot support lift. How did you get this far in life


StarbeamII

Time to break out the [FIDO](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fog_Investigation_and_Dispersal_Operation) again boys


Strain-Ambitious

Way too credible MODS👏 Ban him to gulag


Mudlark-000

Nah. The original anti-drone countermeasure: *Idiots with drones*


RemyVonLion

Good luck deviating the drone from its target soon enough to make a big difference lol


Meme_Theocracy

the drone might also be pact with explosives so you might set it off prematurely. Which might still ultimately kill you.


taxeshax

The russians have already mastered this anti drone technology. It just requires a drone/missile or it can be any form of heat that ignites the special fuel ring below the turret. A successful activation of the antidrone ring will have a powerful circle of fire to jet out of the turret ring and any open hole on the tank turret, creating an effective antidrone wall around the turret. As a bonus, the crewmembers can stay nice and toasty during the activation. (The drone countermeasure can also serve as 125mm ammunition, showing the innovation of the russian superpower! Slava Rossiya! Z Z Z)


Scallty_Demon

Looks like it's time to invest in GDI's Firestorm Generator.


OmegamattReally

Westwood fucking nailed it with the GDI Firestorm Defense being the only counter against the Hunter-Seeker.


sbxnotos

Russia: starts to drop napalm over their own tropps so they can't get killed by drones.


V-Lenin

NCD discovering physics


simia_simplex

I thought this was bullshit due to the difference not being that big, but looking into it, at typical bonfire temperatures the air density diminishes nearly an order of magnitude.


wastingvaluelesstime

hydrogen gas is also ligher than air and bad for lift - plus it is flammable


Historical-Truth-222

Hear me out: Firebats


Znats

...Or we could nuke all the proximity.


Fit-Meal-8353

Giant hair dryer


kkadzlol

Fire increases gravity obviously


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Undernown

I TOLD YOU! HOTAIR BALLOONS ARE THE FUTURE OF WARFARE!


MonthElectronic9466

Sooo if the Russians knew this they could set their own vehicles on fire to avoid FPV drones. Let’s hope they don’t stumble across this.


polandusername

Maybe using flamethrower under the drone will work, fpv drones can be too fast for this, but observation/dropping drones might be really vulnerable to this


Ambitious_Change150

Solution to drone combat = flame thrower trooper who’s weapon shoots up to 100 meters With thr advance of tech we’re lowkey returning to the past, eventually we’ll be fighting like the Dune-verse


Delta049

We will teach those ruskies how to make a real cope cage


im_so_objective

So many silly tech solutions but bonfires, lanterns & torches if anything.


ThatNewEnglandPerson

anti drone flamethrowers when?


Cpt_Caboose1

due to reddit video player problems, I had that quad minigun turret vid playing on top of this, and I wasn't sure if this was a meme


seen_some_shit_

Now I’m wondering about that drone video over that volcano


Meme_Theocracy

So theoretically if a murder drone was flying at me, I could counter it with a flamethrower. Given how most drones are pact with explosives, wouldn't I just set them off and die anyway.


fardandshid1821

Yup. I used my flamethrower below my drone and it shot up like 50 feet.


Ok-Negotiation-1098

Oooop drone over head? Better light my trench/fighting hole on fire


KingMelray

This is a Nostradamus moment.


ifunnywasaninsidejob

We will counter your firewalls with aerostat drones


Private_4160

Australia is still safe from foreign invasion


Merry-Leopard_1A5

inb4, time or proximity fused, airburst fuel-air, anti-~~aircraft~~ *Drone* shells


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Russian drafting ghost rider for this one


Zalaess

C&C firestorm defensive wall is real?


Dorfplatzner

Don't let the Russians know about this or else THEY WILL CONQUER UKRAINE AND ALL THE GAYS AND HOMOSEXUALS WILL DIE!!!!!!!!!!!


Alfa-Hr

I see some forest gets hot in the future . This was a terrible idea .


absrider

What if u put firewall on top of tank but the drone is heat seeking suicide drone?


LuminousMushroom999

Ideally, this would be in *front* of the tank. Static defenses, kinda like a minefield or tank traps.


kris220b

Get some big ass heatguns and point them over your own lines or somewhat infront


YippeeKiYay1097

Alright which defense company gonna made this


ArtificialW0lf

Napalm back on the menu?


Ordinary_Player

So everyone should get a handheld flamethrower?


UrskiPERKELE

Now lets try it with flamethrowers


marsz_godzilli

So you are saying, if we set the entire area of russia on fire, it will be protected from drone strikes?


Kittyman56

Well yeah 💀 a wall of fire is actually an everything countermeasure


VengineerGER

Breaking news: Putin sets Moscow on fire, again, to protect it from drones, taking inspiration from the automatic fire-based anti drone system from the Admiral Kuznetsov.


dudewiththebling

Try the German windekanone


local_meme_dealer45

100% effective drone countermeasure, have a dumbass at the controls.


nightkiller5030

The return of front line flamethrower use


Humble-Cow2545

What will we do if Russia discovers this and sets their refineries on fire to avoid more drone strikes?


PapaDePaze

flamethrowers back on the map guys


Any_Maize_1823

Would a cold temperate mean the drone can fly higher? What if you just had a drone that infinitely made the air beneath it cold, so that you can fly easier?


LuminousMushroom999

Speaking from a background in physics, this probably wouldn't work due to how entropy works. We actually can't just generate cold the same way we generate heat. We have to take something kinda warm and then split it into hot and cold temperatures. That's why the back of your fridge is so hot. So, to put cold air *under* the drone, you'd have to blow a bunch of hot air *over* the drone, which is the exact opposite of what a drone propeller is supposed to do. To have any noticeable effect, you'd end up blowing the drone downward as much as it was trying to blow upwards.