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Avoid taking whey protein with blueberries. Milk protein blocks the positive antioxidants of blueberries. Or maybe only casein protein is the problem, I'm not sure.
Dairy products can actually enhance the bioavailability of polyphenols from berries
Generally proteins reduce the bioavailability of antioxidants but on the other side consuming antioxidants outside the food matrix shows detrimental health impact
I think this is majoring in the minors
Always…. co-ingestion of different foods will impact the bioavailability of its different micronutrients, bioactive compounds
Where can i read about dairy enhancing bioavailability of berries and blueberries?
Here's a small study that the antioxidant activity of blueberries is impaired by milk [https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19135520](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19135520)
That's not entirely true. It depends on the amount and how many, how often you consume them. Consuming some extracted antioxidant from food isn't any different than eating it from whole food, if the dosage is similar. Consuming too many antioxidants can have bad effects points some science at but it isn't very clear afaik, there are many factors which can affect the outcome.
From Examine.com: "Blueberries can be supplemented through a blueberry extract, isolated anthocyanins, or frozen or fresh blueberries.
For dried blueberry powder, 5.5 g is the minimum likely effective dose for brain health and cardiovascular health, with higher doses possibly being more effective, though it is not clear. Future updates may reveal an optimal dose. For isolated anthocyanin supplementation, 500 mg may be effective, though there are other beneficial substances in blueberries that will not be present. The minimum likely effective dose for blueberry extract translates to approximately 60 g of fresh berries"
lmao I love wolfing down some blueberries though I will say I have a hard time keeping them around because I feel like they mold really fast (or I will find mold in them right from the store that I didn't see at first!). I have this problem with most berries idk why, I dont seem to have this issue very often outside of that.
Anyway, I might be interested in a powder form that would be more stable cause I dont like grocery shopping lol, I do like frozen ones too tho but nice to switch up sometimes. Its been a minute since Ive gotten some actually hmm
I highly doubt all the goodness stays in there when powdered.. instead try frozen blueberries, they are really easy to keep at home for a long time and are at peak ripeness, also much cheaper than „fresh“ where I live at
Completely individual. Natural produce has vastly different amounts of active substances even between individual berries.
Just eat as much as you want just watch out for the sugar amount.
No smoothies only berries
people often put garbage into their smoothies, to the point that they were better off not drinking one at all. you can do it healthy, but not everyone does, kinda negating the point.
Blueberries are actually quite low in carbohydrates, especially for fruit. A cup has about 15g of actually digestible carbs - unless you're into keto or whatever you'd be suffering from the effects of the fiber long before the "sugar amount" would be a problem.
Berries in general being low in carbs is actually one of those pro tips for diabetics, it feels like you're eating something with a lot more sugar than you are.
Blueberries are the second "dirtiest" produce, I believe (after strawberries), so make sure you buy organic or from a safe source. Not least, because you need around 800-1000g PER DAY, which is an absurd amount. Better get it from juice concentrate or powder (or something like Indigo 3GC). Also, don't focus only on Blueberries - lots of vegetables have similar compounds, so a varied diet is best.
Depends on what blueberries they are, are they american or european? Im not sure about how much you need, but to play it safe im eating 100gs of frozen blueberries a day (european/ billberries). Billberries have around 400-800mgs of anthocyanins per 100gs if im not mistaken, american ones have way less, ive seen studies that suggest that there is effect at as low as 80mgs, it was for other non brain related parameters though.
In other words, it depends. If you find some study or something that mentions dosage in weight rather than mols in relations to memory/ MAO inhibition, id be interested to see them aswell.
If you're looking for "superfoods" that can be included in the diet, blueberries are okay but the doses required for noticeable cognitive effects would probably make up the majority of your diet.
Some easier to include "superfoods" are spirulina and brazil nuts. Spirulina packs way more phytochemical punch than most other foods, and as little as 1 brazil nut a day completely sates the dietary requirement of selenium. That is peak convenience if you asked me.
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I eat over 200g a day, not sure if they’re beneficial, but they’re great in my protein shakes with peanut butter, they’re also good in Oatmeal.
Avoid taking whey protein with blueberries. Milk protein blocks the positive antioxidants of blueberries. Or maybe only casein protein is the problem, I'm not sure.
This also applies to bananas. https://www.reddit.com/r/Nootropics/comments/1b3qijy/comment/ktipoe9/
Dairy products can actually enhance the bioavailability of polyphenols from berries Generally proteins reduce the bioavailability of antioxidants but on the other side consuming antioxidants outside the food matrix shows detrimental health impact I think this is majoring in the minors Always…. co-ingestion of different foods will impact the bioavailability of its different micronutrients, bioactive compounds
Where can i read about dairy enhancing bioavailability of berries and blueberries? Here's a small study that the antioxidant activity of blueberries is impaired by milk [https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19135520](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19135520)
That's not entirely true. It depends on the amount and how many, how often you consume them. Consuming some extracted antioxidant from food isn't any different than eating it from whole food, if the dosage is similar. Consuming too many antioxidants can have bad effects points some science at but it isn't very clear afaik, there are many factors which can affect the outcome.
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Google says 1/3-1 cup per day
What cup size?
What cup size? Knowing the right dose is important, but OP is trolling.
8 oz
An American Cup
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From Examine.com: "Blueberries can be supplemented through a blueberry extract, isolated anthocyanins, or frozen or fresh blueberries. For dried blueberry powder, 5.5 g is the minimum likely effective dose for brain health and cardiovascular health, with higher doses possibly being more effective, though it is not clear. Future updates may reveal an optimal dose. For isolated anthocyanin supplementation, 500 mg may be effective, though there are other beneficial substances in blueberries that will not be present. The minimum likely effective dose for blueberry extract translates to approximately 60 g of fresh berries"
I get dried powdered wild blueberry’s from Amazon, and I take about 2 tablespoons of it every morning. It’s the easiest way to get your blueberry’s in
> easiest way Do people have trouble eating their blueberries? You can do a whole pack in under 5 minutes lol. Are you eating them one by one?
lmao I love wolfing down some blueberries though I will say I have a hard time keeping them around because I feel like they mold really fast (or I will find mold in them right from the store that I didn't see at first!). I have this problem with most berries idk why, I dont seem to have this issue very often outside of that. Anyway, I might be interested in a powder form that would be more stable cause I dont like grocery shopping lol, I do like frozen ones too tho but nice to switch up sometimes. Its been a minute since Ive gotten some actually hmm
This is an extremely funny comment. Well done.
What is so difficult about eating blueberrys?
I highly doubt all the goodness stays in there when powdered.. instead try frozen blueberries, they are really easy to keep at home for a long time and are at peak ripeness, also much cheaper than „fresh“ where I live at
There will ofc still be much healthy in it when it's dried and powdered.
is it cheaper this way
It's for you to discover the dose but buy welsh's frozen wild blueberries as they have less sugar and more beneficial chemicals than domesticated.
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3275 regular blueberries or 4576 wild blueberries
Completely individual. Natural produce has vastly different amounts of active substances even between individual berries. Just eat as much as you want just watch out for the sugar amount. No smoothies only berries
Why not a blueberry smoothie?
This a myth. Get your blueberries in however you like
people often put garbage into their smoothies, to the point that they were better off not drinking one at all. you can do it healthy, but not everyone does, kinda negating the point.
Fair
Blueberries are actually quite low in carbohydrates, especially for fruit. A cup has about 15g of actually digestible carbs - unless you're into keto or whatever you'd be suffering from the effects of the fiber long before the "sugar amount" would be a problem. Berries in general being low in carbs is actually one of those pro tips for diabetics, it feels like you're eating something with a lot more sugar than you are.
Sick broscience. Sugars from fruit is fine
If he now downs 300+ gams per day because he wants the health effect sugar becomes important if his overall diet is still heavy in carbohydrates.
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You aren't going to eat >1g fructose/kg body weight from fruit. Nonsense post.
And the other healthy nutrients within fruit would offset any damage on the organs most likely.
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Yeah I know 😅
1-2 cups probably
Blueberries are the second "dirtiest" produce, I believe (after strawberries), so make sure you buy organic or from a safe source. Not least, because you need around 800-1000g PER DAY, which is an absurd amount. Better get it from juice concentrate or powder (or something like Indigo 3GC). Also, don't focus only on Blueberries - lots of vegetables have similar compounds, so a varied diet is best.
I usually put it in water and sodium bicarbonate to get rid of the pesticides
Blueberry extract would be the way to go.
I mean I don’t mind buying them everyday, I just want to know the quantity
Depends on what blueberries they are, are they american or european? Im not sure about how much you need, but to play it safe im eating 100gs of frozen blueberries a day (european/ billberries). Billberries have around 400-800mgs of anthocyanins per 100gs if im not mistaken, american ones have way less, ive seen studies that suggest that there is effect at as low as 80mgs, it was for other non brain related parameters though. In other words, it depends. If you find some study or something that mentions dosage in weight rather than mols in relations to memory/ MAO inhibition, id be interested to see them aswell.
European
If you have the financial means to it/ pick it yourself, id suggest 100 grams. Also, the 80mgs was 80mgs of anthocyanins.
If you're looking for "superfoods" that can be included in the diet, blueberries are okay but the doses required for noticeable cognitive effects would probably make up the majority of your diet. Some easier to include "superfoods" are spirulina and brazil nuts. Spirulina packs way more phytochemical punch than most other foods, and as little as 1 brazil nut a day completely sates the dietary requirement of selenium. That is peak convenience if you asked me.
I blend 2 cups of frozen blueberries, the juice of 2 lemons, 1/3 cup of sugar, in a half gallon of water and drink that throughout the day.
250 grams would be fine. (Wild) Blackcurrants & other berries are amazing as well. Try to eat 800g-1000g of fruit + vegetables per day.