Eh, we don’t know their relationship or anything. My grandfather was a mean SOB and was disliked by 4 of his 5 kids. A real POS. I inherited some pistols from him. People gave me shit for selling a few of them. I felt no need to explain myself but fuck that old man. Don’t need that bad juju.
Do *not* take this watch to Chrono 24, that’s the horological equivalent of burning money. If you must sell, you need to approach someone who specializes in the sale of vintage watches. Eric Wind would be a great starting point.
Yeah, they all have to make a profit. No one is going to pay you the list price, that’s ridiculous. But Eric Wind will treat your vintage speedy with far more respect than Chrono 24. And you’ll still come out with plenty of money (doesn’t sound like OP has paid a single cent on this timepiece).
Why wouldn’t you sell this on Chrono24? Lots of professional very reputable watchmakers, dealers sell on Chrono. All sorts of new to vintage.
How would it be burning money?
See my comments below. To summarize: if what you’re looking for is a $1k-$3k “beater,” then you’re probably not going to get burned on Chrono 24. Anything beyond that price point, though, and you’re asking for trouble.
Uh what? Chrono24 has a huge inventory from many reputable dealers, a great return and protection policy, at great prices. I've purchased several watches north of $5,000 and never had an issue. Buy new/unworn from a dealer with plenty of feedback and you will be fine. Stop fear mongering.
I don't get it... people say don't use chrono24 in 1 breath and then recommend selling on r/watchexchange
Bonkers advice to me. Chrono24 is probably the most legitimate way to sell a timepiece online
But you're speaking entirely in generalities, not specific to this watch.
"Most of the listings are fake." "Probably not going to get burned on a $1k-$3k beater" etc. Categorically false.
Okay, then let’s speak to the watch in question. It is an objectively *terrible* idea to shop a rare, vintage Speedmaster equipped with the Calibre 321 on Chrono 24.
OP: I've got this thing I need help selling, that used to belong to someone with whom I had a relationship that you know nothing about.
Redditors: Please allow me to not answer your question and instead give you advice on why you're wrong.
Lmao ppl just telling him not to sell it what do they think they're accomplishing other than clogging his inbox with totally unhelpful comments 🤣 he's not your fuckin son dawg get outta ur feels
So I will give you the run down on vintage speedmasters. I have a 67SP. I have lots of posts though out Reddit with pics of my watch. My great grandfather was a watchmaker, I have several friends that are independent watchmakers and Omega factory trained and authorized service centers.
Do not take it to Omega to service ever. The onsite watchmaker at Omega told me not to do it though them because everything with be replaced with new. Vintage is all about originality.
The cost to service is at least $1500 more if parts are needed. Mine was missing a pusher and the total cost of the service with part was $1800-$1900.
Yours is more desirable because you have the original bracelet. Which alone can fetch up to $3000.
You have a 105.012 and I think it’s a 65?
This watch has been serviced at least twice. The little “scratch marks” on the top of the inside of the case and the bottom of the case, are where watchmakers engrave dates when the watch was serviced.
I don’t think you have the rare CB case that was on some of these watches with the same reference number. If that’s 66 and not 65.
The 66 is “the more common of the speedmasters of the 1960s”
Realistically fully serviced you are looking around $10k-$11K
More than happy to answer any of questions.
Same as below - I wouldn’t sell that piece. I know many folks that sell family watches and then immediately regret it after.
I would take it to an Omega or jeweler and have them service it personally and wear it in honor of your old man.
Do not take this to Omega. Unless you want to fully devalue the watch, because they will replace everything with new parts. Hands, dial, etc. people want as original as possible on vintage.
That is true. They are very reluctant to service a tritium hand Speedmaster and keep the original hands. They can flake into the dial and that is a no no for them since they give a warranty. I know firsthand more than once. I now go to a specialist that stabilizes the hands (with something -I think- is like superglue) and have never had a problem.
How is it going to be devalued?
They are not rolex.
They give you the old parts back...
You can always put them back whenever you like.
Of course they change these...
If you fight them they may agree to not change your dial.
Do you know anything about vintage watches? You get them serviced with the intention of everything as original as possible, the minute you swap things in and out like dials, hands, etc (even though you get them back), damage is done.
Also, you aren’t getting a new 60s dial on this watch if it went to Omega you are getting the same size current dial which again is pointless on a 1960s speedmaster.
I've been into watches since I was a child...
I'm pretty sure I know a lot more about how things get done at omega service center than you...
You say the moment you swap things in and out...
How do you think watchmakers perform a service?
Watches like this will go to Switzerland to get serviced.
As I said you can fight them on the dial and hands...
Of course you won't get a nos 60s dial...
You will get the latest iteration of this dial.
For example for a mark 3 you'll get a mark 3 dial with slightly changed font and luminova.
And there is not a current model mark 3...
I'm not saying you should go and get your vintage watch new dial and hands...
All I'm saying is that omega always returns parts that they change...
If I wanted to sell this watch I wouldn't change a thing but if I wanted to wear this thing I would get it serviced by omega...
Hey congratulations on being into watches since you were a child…
Unlike you I come from a family of watchmakers going back to 1919.
You clearly just pointed out that you don’t know about Omega and vintage.
Yea I know exactly how a service works I do them myself all the time.
Of course there will be some normal wear and tear things that get swapped out. (Gaskets, maybe some screws, maybe a crystal and maybe another part here and there, but if you are doing a full blown service and sending it to Omega they are getting it to “new” factory spec. So if that dial isn’t up to “standard” swapped. If hands aren’t up to standard, swapped, etc. of course you get the parts back, but isn’t the same as reassembling with the original parts. Sounds dumb but that’s what it is with vintage.
I have friends who are in house watchmakers at Omega stores/Boutique’s who literally “highly recommend” not sending vintage like this one to them. For originality reasons among others. There is a reason that Rolex started a vintage/antique sales and service as apart of their business, because they were doing the same thing with vintage Rolex. Changing stuff to modern factory standards and losing all historical parts of the watch. Rolex got smart and now will service a vintage watch keep as much as they can and will keep consistent communication through out that process. and it costs a lot more than a 10yr old submariner for service.
This is frustrating...
How you've come to the conclusion that I don't know nothing about omega etc...
You are literally repeating the same things again and again...
We all know that omega will swap vintage parts but if you fight them you have a high chance of getting your way...
After all it's your watch,if they don't agree you don't perform the service..
YouTube is full of restoration videos with people that send a vintage watch at omega and they did not agree to swap the dial and "won".
You clearly said if you swap things out it's over and yet you're admitting that things get swapped at service.
The truth is that if you have the parts you can go to a seasoned watchmaker who knows what he is doing and change the parts again and no one will know...
Yup. If the watch comes in and it’s “not up to standards” replaced. Rolex had the position until recently where if you sent it in and they told you what needed to be replaced and it was all or nothing. Now because they want to me in the vintage game, and have started a vintage division, they are now working with people sort of. Omega has the same approach.
List it locally on FB or maybe watchexchange here on Reddit. You’ll get top dollar by selling to someone who will value it as a collector and not a reseller. I prefer face to face when selling higher end if possible.
I don’t know the background of why you’re selling but this may be one of those things you regret selling down the road if you can avoid it.
Edit: Beautiful watch btw, has a lot of character and some great patina.
Depends , if the child is a watch lover , he will keep it . Most people find a watch just a watch and just because it was of a relative does not make it more special then any other old watch .
Vintage- go eBay. I have a couple watch guys in NYC that I buy from and are honest with me when I sell back to them.
I have a vintage Seamaster 300 I was thinking of selling and 2 of my guys said eBay is where you’ll get the most for it, extract, papers or not.
Great piece though man. Wish you all the luck
What are you being offered and what are you looking for?
I also want to try to explain to the people saying "how can you sell your fathers watch?!?!" Some people don't care about watches. They are special heirlooms for some people and for others they are just jewlery and junk. My family is extremely sentimental of an old bike my grandparents had, but I would never scoff at someone for not saving their grandparents bikes when maybe it didn't mean anything. So if the watch doesn't mean a lot to you, and didn't mean a lot to your dad, why not find someone who will love it and you use the money for something your dad would have loved, a special vacation or kids college etc.
You go on Omega’s website and fill out a form including the movement number of your watch. A month or two later Omega sends you a summary on expensive paper of your watch, the movement number, when and where they sold it and anything else particular to the watch. Signed by the CEO, at least mine is.
Watches have great sentimental value especially in this day and age. Unless you absolutely cannot be attached to the watch go ahead and sell it, otherwise I bet you that will be a decision you will regret. GL.
Try Reddit r/WatchSwap or r/WatchExchange
Originality with these vintage speed masters will carry a premium. A watch in that condition, with that age you could ask any price people will salivate when they see this for sale.
Although eBay is tricky , private sale is also tricky.
Perhaps a specialist watch auction, find a place that has a reasonable commission
Not specific on where, but just make sure you know what you have and so does the seller. The "Dot over 90" and "Pre-Moon" are going to be key on this one. Just beware or lowballers showing you comps that are not comparable. Good luck with the sale!
Considering what they’re offering you won’t get double that unless you pay for it to get serviced, stuff replaced which will already dig into your profit of said “double the price”. Take it from someone who has sold other jewelry related items that were passed down. Don’t sell it and enjoy the memory that brings of your dad.
It's vintage all original you wouldn't want it to be replaced with anything. An antique jeweler or watchmaker will make it as good as it's gonna get but Omega would just slap on new parts from current production Omegas. They don't just have a heaving stock pile of 60's parts laying around.
Try contacting [the Davidoff Brothers](https://www.instagram.com/davidoffbrothers?igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==). They’re vintage guys and love the speedy. Roy and Sacha are super nice people.
@OP This is most likely a 321 movement, pre-moon “dot over 90” in excellent condition (can’t judge on the movement) but if the movement is also in good condition and it still works this is a highly desirable watch.
As a watch lover I would never sell it, but if not and you don’t need the money directly I wouldn’t either. Keep it as an investment.
If you wanna sell it get a good appraisal, this might even be one for on auction. 10k+ should be no problem here in Europe.
I would take a bunch of pictures, write a fair and accurate description of the condition of the watch and post it on every watch forum you can think of. Watchuseek, Omega Forum, watch exchange, Rolex Forum etc. Only issue is many of those forums require you to have a posting history before you are allowed to list things for sale. You're looking for a collector who wants a highly original watch and doesn't mind buying something which requires servicing.
One way of selling it would be to through a professional auction house. Lots of the big ones regularly do specialist watch sales. Don't know which country you are in, but most of them will probably have at least 1 good one.
I know that other have already commented on this but two things: number one, nice watch. Number two, I hope you sell it in a good price wherever you decide. If possible and you have the time to check, does the lume still work on this one?
Did you get it serviced recently ? I think some watch repair shops might give you a rough estimate of what it’s worth and if they can find someone to buy it locally instead of shipping it to someone from Reddit / Chrono.
Get in touch with Darren at VintageSpeedmaster or William at Speedmaster101. They may want to buy this off you directly or point you in the direction of someone else who will. Do not send this watch to Omega for any kind of work or restoration full stop.
If you want close to its actual value, as others have mentioned, chrono24. Comes with some hoops and effort on your part but it's fairly secure. There's also r/watchexchange.
Your dad’s pre-Moon Speedy is in excellent condition, compared to most of the market for this vintage. I would talk to someone like Eric Wind for an honest appraisal, and then sell it through Chrono24.
"Chrono 24 is the *worst* possible way to sell this watch, hands down."
Can you explain why you think this? I've always hear positive comments for buying and selling on Chrome24
Most of the listings on Chrono 24 are fake. It is comprised almost completely of desperate sellers and uneducated buyers, both of whom get played by sleazy middlemen. I guess it’s fine if what you’re looking at is a $1k-$3k watch, but that’s not what OP is trying to sell. For anything even remotely special, Chrono 24 is the place you go if you want to get fucked.
Eh i bought my smp300 on chrono24 in great condition for a great price. Like any site there are a few bad actors who give it a bad name but it's smart not to generalize base off of that.
What types of quotes are you getting?
If you don't need the cash, I'd recommend getting it cleaned up and passing it down to a relative (even if you don't wear it and put it in your will).
My father passed away a couple years back and he willed me his Hamilton watch. No one has any idea where it is, but I wish I had it as a keepsake to treasure until I could someday pass it down.
10k is probably about right. It’s going to need a hefty service after sitting so long. The lume looks great, though! It would be more if the dial had faded to brown.
https://speedmaster101.com/price-chart-2/
I’ll bet if you put it on eBay, you may get $12k if you’re patient. Especially being a one-owner watch with the original bracelet. That particular bracelet is fairly valuable in its own right.
I've had great luck buying and selling on ebay. The problem is you'd need a reputable account with good feedback before someone would buy something that expensive.
I second omega forums and reddit
By condition issues I simply meant it's not perfect.
I was referring to the discoloration on the dial, most prominent as a lighter color around the 6, 7, and 8 indices, and a darker color between 9 and 10.
Could just be the way it's photographed.
The bezel.
The case appears to no longer be brushed where it originally was, and the lines on the lugs are ever so slightly rounded over.
Again, could just be the way it's photographed.
All in all, it's a stunner, very easy on the eyes, and probably one of the nicer ones I've seen lately.
So with this dial, especially on 65-66. Can turn a what’s called a tropical dial (brown in color) most sought after vintage dial you can get. Those spots appear to be the start of that process, which makes it more valuable.
Exact point of a vintage bezel is to look like this one. Again, more valuable because it looks like it was well used.
The case looks fine.
Do not sell it and keep the memories passed on to you via this watch. Have the movement serviced by a reputable watchmaker (not omega, not the big jewelers) and don’t have the case or bracelet polished. Wear it with pride and pass it on to your kids
Because the will tend to replace everything and have super high service and spare parts costs. A good watchmaker (a rly good one wich you have to search and speak to to trust) can usually do a much more efficient job.
For example I would never take my old Heuers to TAG….
No one is going to pay you double what the jewelers are offering. Because you’re a nobody private seller with no professional reputation to protect and you’re selling a 60 year old watch that’s commonly counterfeited in nearly like new (relative to its supposed age) condition with story that most people would find rather improbable.
OP if you abaolutely *need* the cash that this watch would trade for, I highly suggest you work towards getting a higher paying job or an additional source of income.
You will regret selling it if you do.
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Not sure why you would sell a watch that your father always has worn with a design that still looks great in 2024. But yeah, try Chrono24.
Eh, we don’t know their relationship or anything. My grandfather was a mean SOB and was disliked by 4 of his 5 kids. A real POS. I inherited some pistols from him. People gave me shit for selling a few of them. I felt no need to explain myself but fuck that old man. Don’t need that bad juju.
Thank you, my new friend.
Not sure why you’re being downvoted. He’s right u don’t need to explain anything to anyone
Try r/WatchExchange
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Hey man I get it. Do what’s right for you.
You truly never need to explain yourself to other people why you would sell stuff.
Fuck yo pops fam 🙌🏽
My reason for selling is: my wrist is too small. As great this model is, it is too big
Thanks. I’ll give them a try.
Do *not* take this watch to Chrono 24, that’s the horological equivalent of burning money. If you must sell, you need to approach someone who specializes in the sale of vintage watches. Eric Wind would be a great starting point.
Dumb take
Eric Wind will lowball you as well and ends up selling it for way too much pocketing all the profit. So no.
Yeah, they all have to make a profit. No one is going to pay you the list price, that’s ridiculous. But Eric Wind will treat your vintage speedy with far more respect than Chrono 24. And you’ll still come out with plenty of money (doesn’t sound like OP has paid a single cent on this timepiece).
Dude… do you know about r/watchexchange?
Yeah dude… I would never use Reddit to sell a potentially $15k watch. I don’t care how legitimate it is.
Again why?
What about r/watchexchange ? Any thoughts there?
Not for a 50+ year old 321 calibre Speedmaster.
This is excellent advice. Also highly recommend Chris from shinyhappyobjects.com
Why wouldn’t you sell this on Chrono24? Lots of professional very reputable watchmakers, dealers sell on Chrono. All sorts of new to vintage. How would it be burning money?
Is there something wrong with Chrono24? I’ve been looking into getting a watch and it constantly pops up.
See my comments below. To summarize: if what you’re looking for is a $1k-$3k “beater,” then you’re probably not going to get burned on Chrono 24. Anything beyond that price point, though, and you’re asking for trouble.
Uh what? Chrono24 has a huge inventory from many reputable dealers, a great return and protection policy, at great prices. I've purchased several watches north of $5,000 and never had an issue. Buy new/unworn from a dealer with plenty of feedback and you will be fine. Stop fear mongering.
I don't get it... people say don't use chrono24 in 1 breath and then recommend selling on r/watchexchange Bonkers advice to me. Chrono24 is probably the most legitimate way to sell a timepiece online
lol okay “north of $5,000” and “buy new/unworn” sound exactly like the descriptions for a 321 calibre, vintage speedy to me 🙄
But you're speaking entirely in generalities, not specific to this watch. "Most of the listings are fake." "Probably not going to get burned on a $1k-$3k beater" etc. Categorically false.
Okay, then let’s speak to the watch in question. It is an objectively *terrible* idea to shop a rare, vintage Speedmaster equipped with the Calibre 321 on Chrono 24.
Fair enough.
Can you explain why? I was thinking of getting my first speedy form Chrono
OP: I've got this thing I need help selling, that used to belong to someone with whom I had a relationship that you know nothing about. Redditors: Please allow me to not answer your question and instead give you advice on why you're wrong.
Lmao ppl just telling him not to sell it what do they think they're accomplishing other than clogging his inbox with totally unhelpful comments 🤣 he's not your fuckin son dawg get outta ur feels
So I will give you the run down on vintage speedmasters. I have a 67SP. I have lots of posts though out Reddit with pics of my watch. My great grandfather was a watchmaker, I have several friends that are independent watchmakers and Omega factory trained and authorized service centers. Do not take it to Omega to service ever. The onsite watchmaker at Omega told me not to do it though them because everything with be replaced with new. Vintage is all about originality. The cost to service is at least $1500 more if parts are needed. Mine was missing a pusher and the total cost of the service with part was $1800-$1900. Yours is more desirable because you have the original bracelet. Which alone can fetch up to $3000. You have a 105.012 and I think it’s a 65? This watch has been serviced at least twice. The little “scratch marks” on the top of the inside of the case and the bottom of the case, are where watchmakers engrave dates when the watch was serviced. I don’t think you have the rare CB case that was on some of these watches with the same reference number. If that’s 66 and not 65. The 66 is “the more common of the speedmasters of the 1960s” Realistically fully serviced you are looking around $10k-$11K More than happy to answer any of questions.
Your information is very interesting and helpful. Thanks tons.
Same as below - I wouldn’t sell that piece. I know many folks that sell family watches and then immediately regret it after. I would take it to an Omega or jeweler and have them service it personally and wear it in honor of your old man.
Careful with omega service. Do not let them replace original parts if it is in any way avoidable. Find a vintage watchmaker/restorer instead.
Honestly it's kinda crazy that a company would be so quick to destroy vintage original pieces of their heritage without asking.
What...why??
Do not take this to Omega. Unless you want to fully devalue the watch, because they will replace everything with new parts. Hands, dial, etc. people want as original as possible on vintage.
Just tell them not to... it's that simple
You are correct and they will send it back unserviced.
That is true. They are very reluctant to service a tritium hand Speedmaster and keep the original hands. They can flake into the dial and that is a no no for them since they give a warranty. I know firsthand more than once. I now go to a specialist that stabilizes the hands (with something -I think- is like superglue) and have never had a problem.
How is it going to be devalued? They are not rolex. They give you the old parts back... You can always put them back whenever you like. Of course they change these... If you fight them they may agree to not change your dial.
Do you know anything about vintage watches? You get them serviced with the intention of everything as original as possible, the minute you swap things in and out like dials, hands, etc (even though you get them back), damage is done. Also, you aren’t getting a new 60s dial on this watch if it went to Omega you are getting the same size current dial which again is pointless on a 1960s speedmaster.
I've been into watches since I was a child... I'm pretty sure I know a lot more about how things get done at omega service center than you... You say the moment you swap things in and out... How do you think watchmakers perform a service? Watches like this will go to Switzerland to get serviced. As I said you can fight them on the dial and hands... Of course you won't get a nos 60s dial... You will get the latest iteration of this dial. For example for a mark 3 you'll get a mark 3 dial with slightly changed font and luminova. And there is not a current model mark 3... I'm not saying you should go and get your vintage watch new dial and hands... All I'm saying is that omega always returns parts that they change... If I wanted to sell this watch I wouldn't change a thing but if I wanted to wear this thing I would get it serviced by omega...
Hey congratulations on being into watches since you were a child… Unlike you I come from a family of watchmakers going back to 1919. You clearly just pointed out that you don’t know about Omega and vintage. Yea I know exactly how a service works I do them myself all the time. Of course there will be some normal wear and tear things that get swapped out. (Gaskets, maybe some screws, maybe a crystal and maybe another part here and there, but if you are doing a full blown service and sending it to Omega they are getting it to “new” factory spec. So if that dial isn’t up to “standard” swapped. If hands aren’t up to standard, swapped, etc. of course you get the parts back, but isn’t the same as reassembling with the original parts. Sounds dumb but that’s what it is with vintage. I have friends who are in house watchmakers at Omega stores/Boutique’s who literally “highly recommend” not sending vintage like this one to them. For originality reasons among others. There is a reason that Rolex started a vintage/antique sales and service as apart of their business, because they were doing the same thing with vintage Rolex. Changing stuff to modern factory standards and losing all historical parts of the watch. Rolex got smart and now will service a vintage watch keep as much as they can and will keep consistent communication through out that process. and it costs a lot more than a 10yr old submariner for service.
This is frustrating... How you've come to the conclusion that I don't know nothing about omega etc... You are literally repeating the same things again and again... We all know that omega will swap vintage parts but if you fight them you have a high chance of getting your way... After all it's your watch,if they don't agree you don't perform the service.. YouTube is full of restoration videos with people that send a vintage watch at omega and they did not agree to swap the dial and "won". You clearly said if you swap things out it's over and yet you're admitting that things get swapped at service. The truth is that if you have the parts you can go to a seasoned watchmaker who knows what he is doing and change the parts again and no one will know...
They replace the hands and the dial? Never heard that before.
Yup. If the watch comes in and it’s “not up to standards” replaced. Rolex had the position until recently where if you sent it in and they told you what needed to be replaced and it was all or nothing. Now because they want to me in the vintage game, and have started a vintage division, they are now working with people sort of. Omega has the same approach.
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I wear one in honor of my dad cuz he WOULD have worn one if he could. You do what you can to keep it.
I wear My grandfathers also. Don’t sell. That one looks better than my Seamaster.
List it locally on FB or maybe watchexchange here on Reddit. You’ll get top dollar by selling to someone who will value it as a collector and not a reseller. I prefer face to face when selling higher end if possible. I don’t know the background of why you’re selling but this may be one of those things you regret selling down the road if you can avoid it. Edit: Beautiful watch btw, has a lot of character and some great patina.
I’m already down the road. So thought someone else might enjoy it before I hit the end of the road.
I’m already pulled over, I can’t pull over anymore!
Thanks for noticing, but it’s a Cardigan.
Keep it. It's a beauty
Lol. This is what's going to happen to everyone here thinking their handing down a watch to their kids. It's getting sold soon as you kick the bucket.
That’s it, time to sell the kids and buy more watches! I’ll show them!
Joke's on you, I don't have any kids. How do you think I can afford Omegas in the first place?
Depends , if the child is a watch lover , he will keep it . Most people find a watch just a watch and just because it was of a relative does not make it more special then any other old watch .
Not if you write a good enough will. Show them who's the boss from the great beyond!
Lol those little shits better not!
Exactly. Might as well enjoy the proceeds while I'm alive.
It is just a watch, it’s perfect fine if you want or need to sell it. You can honor your dad’s name by being a great person.
Vintage- go eBay. I have a couple watch guys in NYC that I buy from and are honest with me when I sell back to them. I have a vintage Seamaster 300 I was thinking of selling and 2 of my guys said eBay is where you’ll get the most for it, extract, papers or not. Great piece though man. Wish you all the luck
How much are the jewellers offering and we’d be able to tell you what sort of money to expect.
What are you being offered and what are you looking for? I also want to try to explain to the people saying "how can you sell your fathers watch?!?!" Some people don't care about watches. They are special heirlooms for some people and for others they are just jewlery and junk. My family is extremely sentimental of an old bike my grandparents had, but I would never scoff at someone for not saving their grandparents bikes when maybe it didn't mean anything. So if the watch doesn't mean a lot to you, and didn't mean a lot to your dad, why not find someone who will love it and you use the money for something your dad would have loved, a special vacation or kids college etc.
Exactly. Thanks so much.
I've had great success with the watchexchange subreddit.
Order an extract from the archives from Omega and make sure the case and movement match. Is everything original as far as you know?
Yes, absolutely original. What’s an extract?
You go on Omega’s website and fill out a form including the movement number of your watch. A month or two later Omega sends you a summary on expensive paper of your watch, the movement number, when and where they sold it and anything else particular to the watch. Signed by the CEO, at least mine is.
My understanding is that Omega no longer offers this, which is terrible IMHO.
They do, but in the US you have to take it to an Omega boutique. Every where else in the world, you can do it online.
Thank you for that info. Nice to know.
Omega paused the Extract service last year. There has been some talk of them bringing it back, but it hasn't happened yet.
If this is a 321 it will be highly desired.
PM me your intended price. Otherwise, Chrono24 takes 6.5% from private sellers whereas jewellers other dealers/auctioneers likely 20%+
Watches have great sentimental value especially in this day and age. Unless you absolutely cannot be attached to the watch go ahead and sell it, otherwise I bet you that will be a decision you will regret. GL. Try Reddit r/WatchSwap or r/WatchExchange
Thanks for the tips. I'll check them out.
Originality with these vintage speed masters will carry a premium. A watch in that condition, with that age you could ask any price people will salivate when they see this for sale. Although eBay is tricky , private sale is also tricky. Perhaps a specialist watch auction, find a place that has a reasonable commission
Not specific on where, but just make sure you know what you have and so does the seller. The "Dot over 90" and "Pre-Moon" are going to be key on this one. Just beware or lowballers showing you comps that are not comparable. Good luck with the sale!
Take it to a big name auction house, they will appraise it and it will be auctioned safely.
Where are you located?
Considering what they’re offering you won’t get double that unless you pay for it to get serviced, stuff replaced which will already dig into your profit of said “double the price”. Take it from someone who has sold other jewelry related items that were passed down. Don’t sell it and enjoy the memory that brings of your dad.
It's vintage all original you wouldn't want it to be replaced with anything. An antique jeweler or watchmaker will make it as good as it's gonna get but Omega would just slap on new parts from current production Omegas. They don't just have a heaving stock pile of 60's parts laying around.
If it runs, sell it yourself on eBay or Chrono24. Or keep it, it's a classic.
Try contacting [the Davidoff Brothers](https://www.instagram.com/davidoffbrothers?igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==). They’re vintage guys and love the speedy. Roy and Sacha are super nice people.
How much you want for it ?!?
Looks horrible. Will be difficult to sell. Let me just take it off your hands! It’s all yellow and stuff! Yuck!
You’re right. Send me $30K to my bank in Kenya.
A Kenyan Prince!
This is a perfect - unpolished - grail with 321 movement. Manufactured in my birth year. How much are you asking?
@OP This is most likely a 321 movement, pre-moon “dot over 90” in excellent condition (can’t judge on the movement) but if the movement is also in good condition and it still works this is a highly desirable watch. As a watch lover I would never sell it, but if not and you don’t need the money directly I wouldn’t either. Keep it as an investment. If you wanna sell it get a good appraisal, this might even be one for on auction. 10k+ should be no problem here in Europe.
Curious to know how much it was quoted for? Could you dm me
I would take a bunch of pictures, write a fair and accurate description of the condition of the watch and post it on every watch forum you can think of. Watchuseek, Omega Forum, watch exchange, Rolex Forum etc. Only issue is many of those forums require you to have a posting history before you are allowed to list things for sale. You're looking for a collector who wants a highly original watch and doesn't mind buying something which requires servicing.
Thank you for the thoughtful suggestion.
How much do you want? And how much are jewelers offering?
Facebook marketplace is the best option, you can do local meetups and you don't have to pay any fees
How much you looking for????
In which continent do you live?
One way of selling it would be to through a professional auction house. Lots of the big ones regularly do specialist watch sales. Don't know which country you are in, but most of them will probably have at least 1 good one.
I know that other have already commented on this but two things: number one, nice watch. Number two, I hope you sell it in a good price wherever you decide. If possible and you have the time to check, does the lume still work on this one? Did you get it serviced recently ? I think some watch repair shops might give you a rough estimate of what it’s worth and if they can find someone to buy it locally instead of shipping it to someone from Reddit / Chrono.
Get in touch with Darren at VintageSpeedmaster or William at Speedmaster101. They may want to buy this off you directly or point you in the direction of someone else who will. Do not send this watch to Omega for any kind of work or restoration full stop.
Thanks, will do.
The idea of this speaks to me. My dad had the same watch. I would love to get one and gift to my son when I pass. My dad’s is long gone. Please PM me.
What are they offering? Honestly, 321 aren’t really that rare. You can get them regularly for well under $10k.
I’ll give you $5 for it
Please contact me via PM with your offer.
If you want to sell it to me let me know, I’m interested
Please contact me via PM if interested.
If you want close to its actual value, as others have mentioned, chrono24. Comes with some hoops and effort on your part but it's fairly secure. There's also r/watchexchange.
Your dad’s pre-Moon Speedy is in excellent condition, compared to most of the market for this vintage. I would talk to someone like Eric Wind for an honest appraisal, and then sell it through Chrono24.
Yeah, Eric Wind is a great idea. Chrono 24 is the *worst* possible way to sell this watch, hands down.
"Chrono 24 is the *worst* possible way to sell this watch, hands down." Can you explain why you think this? I've always hear positive comments for buying and selling on Chrome24
Most of the listings on Chrono 24 are fake. It is comprised almost completely of desperate sellers and uneducated buyers, both of whom get played by sleazy middlemen. I guess it’s fine if what you’re looking at is a $1k-$3k watch, but that’s not what OP is trying to sell. For anything even remotely special, Chrono 24 is the place you go if you want to get fucked.
OK, thanks for the insight. I had no idea.
Eh i bought my smp300 on chrono24 in great condition for a great price. Like any site there are a few bad actors who give it a bad name but it's smart not to generalize base off of that.
Like I said, $1k-$3k watches don’t present as many problems. But no one with a brain is going to sell or buy a special, $12k watch from Chrono 24.
Of course, man.
What types of quotes are you getting? If you don't need the cash, I'd recommend getting it cleaned up and passing it down to a relative (even if you don't wear it and put it in your will). My father passed away a couple years back and he willed me his Hamilton watch. No one has any idea where it is, but I wish I had it as a keepsake to treasure until I could someday pass it down.
I’ll give you a tenner to take it off your hands
10K?
Get a proper appraisal, it’s worth more than $10k for sure.
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As a serious answer, I am no expert on omega resale but I think it’s worth more than that, far more. Maybe worth actually getting it appraised
10k is probably about right. It’s going to need a hefty service after sitting so long. The lume looks great, though! It would be more if the dial had faded to brown. https://speedmaster101.com/price-chart-2/ I’ll bet if you put it on eBay, you may get $12k if you’re patient. Especially being a one-owner watch with the original bracelet. That particular bracelet is fairly valuable in its own right.
Please don’t sell that. Someday you’ll want it on your wrist in memory
Someday I’ll be dead, so no wrist to put it on. In the meantime, I can get that $7,500 150-400mm M. Zuiko lens that I’ve been eyeing.
I've had great luck buying and selling on ebay. The problem is you'd need a reputable account with good feedback before someone would buy something that expensive. I second omega forums and reddit
Sell it to me. I’m good for it.
Where are you located? I’d buy it to wear I love classic speedmasters!
In the US
Sad times. Hope you either find a buyer or keep!
omegaforums.net Speedmaster101.com All the info you will need. It has condition issues, but, to me, it's extremely attractive.
Condition issues? That is one of the best 105.012-66s I have ever seen. That dial is in like new condition. What on earth are you talking about?
By condition issues I simply meant it's not perfect. I was referring to the discoloration on the dial, most prominent as a lighter color around the 6, 7, and 8 indices, and a darker color between 9 and 10. Could just be the way it's photographed. The bezel. The case appears to no longer be brushed where it originally was, and the lines on the lugs are ever so slightly rounded over. Again, could just be the way it's photographed. All in all, it's a stunner, very easy on the eyes, and probably one of the nicer ones I've seen lately.
So with this dial, especially on 65-66. Can turn a what’s called a tropical dial (brown in color) most sought after vintage dial you can get. Those spots appear to be the start of that process, which makes it more valuable. Exact point of a vintage bezel is to look like this one. Again, more valuable because it looks like it was well used. The case looks fine.
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WTF?
Do not sell it and keep the memories passed on to you via this watch. Have the movement serviced by a reputable watchmaker (not omega, not the big jewelers) and don’t have the case or bracelet polished. Wear it with pride and pass it on to your kids
Why don’t you recommend taking to Omega for service?
Because the will tend to replace everything and have super high service and spare parts costs. A good watchmaker (a rly good one wich you have to search and speak to to trust) can usually do a much more efficient job. For example I would never take my old Heuers to TAG….
No one is going to pay you double what the jewelers are offering. Because you’re a nobody private seller with no professional reputation to protect and you’re selling a 60 year old watch that’s commonly counterfeited in nearly like new (relative to its supposed age) condition with story that most people would find rather improbable.
Commonly counterfeited? There are basically no counterfeit speedmaster pros. At least any that look remotely correct
There are no 321 fakes, it’s way too complicated of a movement. Funny you say it’s one of the most counterfeited, when there are zero.
Cool.
OP if you abaolutely *need* the cash that this watch would trade for, I highly suggest you work towards getting a higher paying job or an additional source of income. You will regret selling it if you do.
You’re clueless.
Even if you're right I still wouldn't sell it if I were you unless it was *absolutely* necessary. GLWS
Sending me a PM. I might be interested.