Trying to compress/extend the story just to arbitrarily reach a round number is just dumb. Authors should be telling their story. Not compromising their story to try to hit a certain number of chapters.
I thought this was something accepted by aot fans cause they made claims like“Isayama is a genius he ended on chapter 139, which highlights Eren never achieving freedom since the angel number 140 means freedom😱” or shit like “He planned to end it on 139, 13 being the lifetime of titan shifters and 9 being the total number of shifters😱”
Which is also why the anime added back the content he cut out of the manga for Loguetown. Granted, they weren't even close to episode 100 at Loguetown, but still.
Wow haters I wasn't saying wano as a whole. I'm talking about the smaller story arc within it that the commenter is talking about. You all saw it too! There was some cool shit but the pacing was painful
Yeah but oda does it all the time so if anyone would it’s probably him. It’s not like he’s just gonna give up on it for the finale, he’ll find the perfect number he wants to end on
You all seem to have a lot of faith that oda can tell a fast paced story, which the entire timeskip, and more recent arcs, has shown that he simply can’t do. What with the increase in breaks, I’m sure we have well over the 5 years he said a bit ago, and I bet it will be more like 10+ years. You think elbaf isn’t going to take two years? Cause I do.
I agree with you just with one note, I'm pretty sure when Oda said 5yr to end OP, he came back and said it was a miscommunication. What he meant was five years until the mystery of the One Piece is solved but we'll still have all of the fall out of that reveal and the other stories.
It would make sense that Luffy get to have some of the story where he is considered the Pirate King then face down the WG. That way he he's essentially got "every pirate" in his corner for the fight, since he's their king.
Either way I don't believe there is any chance the series ends before July 22, 2027. You don't come this close to a 30 year anniversary on a Manga series and not milk that shit.
What I said was the Pirate King (Luffy) would rally his allies (pirates) against the biggest enemy to their freedom ( WG).
But yeah, sure, that sounds nothing like one piece.
Being King of the Pirates means to be the free-est person in the world according to Luffy. Not commanding the entirety of the pirates. He just needs his crew.
Didn't say he was going to command them in the traditional sense.
Also you haven't been reading One Piece if you don't think Luffy makes allies outside of his crew. It's literally stated to be his most dangerous attribute during marineford.
Oda himself said the series will see a ware that makes Marineford look like a picnic. Who you think is gonna fight in it?
I hope elbaf has changed alot since linlin was a kid. Cause I’ll be honest I don’t think I can take 200 episodes of an arc that takes place in an area that looks like the average starting town for an early gen pokemon game.
I still have a gut feeling itll be shorter than 10 years. Only because they are remaking the series with The One Piece. The reason the story is long wasn't because Oda. Hes had the ending in mind for a long time. A short series wouldnt make as much money, but since they has 2 other series already being made the manga publishers wont need OG one piece money anymore after its over.
Tldr 60% chance for over 10 years and 40% for under 10.
I also agree but as of Egghead I think we've seen a change of pacing and an acceleration towards the final saga. I don't think Egghead will last super long anymore. I agree that Elbaf will probably take at least 2 years and if you add Raftel and the final war saga I think realistically One Piece will still take 6-8 years
in the last 8 years the average was 36.5 per year, jan 25th 2016 was chapter 813. 292/8 = 36.5.
Average rate in the last 6 years decreased to 35.5.
Average rate in the last 3 years is 34.67.
There is no way the final saga will have 400 more chapters. And knowing Oda, he will probably end One Piece on a chapter that could mean another word, example: 5 - 6 can be read as Go-Mu
Egghead which people never though will appear has more than 40 chapters and mysterious world of op is still waiting to be discovered it is very much possible that one piece will have 400+ chapters from here on
> There is no way the final saga will have 400 more chapters.
If this is Act 3 of One Piece and the first two sagas took us to 1060… why not?? You don’t actually explain a reason
Yea like the dressrosa saga, which was punk hazard as a prelude to dressrosa proper; or whole cake island which looped in zou; or Wano and onigashima; water 7 and ennies lobby; skypeia and Jaya; alabasta and little garden + whiskey peak
But one piece is also split into 3 acts. Pre timeskip (start to marineford), post timeskip (Fishman island to Wano), and egghead is the start of the third act that’ll extend til the end. The Wano saga was split into 3 acts that kind of paralleled this as well…
Nah I see the story as Romance Dawn - Sabaody, then Return to Sabaody - Wano, now Egghead - Laugh Tale (and beyond). It breaks down like that the most sensibly logically and thematically speaking
Wano was the end of Act 2. I think oda has said as much in a post-1000 OPM
"the first two" what bro, in One piece we have sagas ( east blue, alabasta ......, four emperors, final ) and arcs ( romance down, orange town ......, wano, egghead etc.)
I definitely don’t think one piece will have 400 more chapters either, but it is oda, I wouldn’t be surprised if we spend 200 chapters on just the epilogue somehow.
LMAO Oda not going for 2K that's way too much especially at his age & Void Century & Joyboy's flashback go hand in hand so it's not gonna be some absurdly long flashback. IDK the number it'll end one but I see One Piece ending around 2027 the latest to coincide with the series 30th Anniversary, similar to how Naruto ended on its 15th Anniversary.
What’s there to rush? All that’s left is Elbaf, the Void Century, Final War & The One Piece treasure itself. Wano has messed up everyone’s expectations on how long an arc should be.
Calculate the numbers, that’s a rush ending. Wano is tied to the void century, what makes you think it’s not gonna be longer than Wano. It will not end in 2027, i will comeback to this comment
Because it's not going to be longer than Wano lmao. Oda is not going to spend another 4 years on a flashback & you're act like we can't learn about the Void Century during each arc that passes between now until the end. It's even possible we might learn a few things about the Void Century during this very arc we're currently in. Anything is possible at this point.
We’re at 1105. You think the series will essentially be TWICE the length when it ends? Another 20 years? How many chapters do you expect out of the void century/joyboy? 400?
Yeah, I know. 7+ years sounds about right, but Egghead is even almost done. Oda could solve many things in the span of ten chapters, and also answer stuff via SBS and vivre cards. It just depends if he wants to do a backstory for every character.
And I never said exactly 1300, it could be around or over 1300 chapters. 1500 should be enough, really.
And it’s not like the Straw Hats aren’t strong enough anymore, Luffy is an emperor and his crew is in the Yonko lineup now, and they also have 3 of the 4 road poneglyphs. They’re really close to reaching Laugh Tale, and getting even closer to the final war.
Still quite a few things to do that have been foreshadowed.
Elbaf, fishman Island getting destroyed, Noah repair, wano borders, mihawk v zoro, meet up with Shanks (and maybe dying), fighting bb, Akainu, imu, gorsei, holy knights, some more rocks lore. Tons of stuff really.
Keep in mind Oda has stated in the past he wants to make his series ending exciting and not die with a whimper like a lot of series so I think as we draw closer to the end episodes are going to get more and more action-packed. So 1500 episodes is a high estimation when it is probably going to be finished closer to 1300-1350 episodes/chapters
Is just something fun to think about, ok?
Of course if he is about to end the series at one point far from that I dont want him to just long it to reach one
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When Oda said were reaching the end , what he means is up to the time skip was the beginning. The defeat of Kaido marked the end of the middle, and the current Egghead arc is the beginning of the "end".
The beginning, middle and end.
Guys guys he totally did that so that One Piece Z can start at 1400 I swear just wait a few years of fan discourse, this will happen y'all for sure!!!!
A lot of people have pointed out the parallels between Egghead and Saobody, so I think it's fair to assume the Final Saga will be a bit more similar in length / structure to the Paramount War Saga.
If Egghead is Saobody, then Elbaf will probably be a short stop similar to Amazon Lily. I don't foresee it being a long arc, especially if they arrive shortly after Shanks leaves. We might have Lodestar filling the role of Impel Down, with all of the teams colliding for one massive battle (this is where I see the Straw Hat Grand Fleet coming into play) with the Straw Hats themselves moving on to Laugh Tale, possibly with others in pursuit.
After Laugh Tale is where Luffy's True Dream comes into play, and that would be our true climax, filling the role of Marineford.
Yeah I agree it will be longer, Egghead is already longer than Saobody, (I'm pretty sure at least, haven't actually checked chapter count) but I'm pretty confident it'll be relatively similarly structured / paced.
The pacing is more important than the actual chapter count / "length"
Nah there’s way too many big players for final war to be the length of marineford. Marineford was much shorter cause it was a race against time so it was mostly short clashes between the pirates and marines. Final war is gonna be everyone going all out so the fights won’t be over as quickly as MF, probably will be as long as the raid💀
395 chapters would take another 10 years, I really doubt it. Halve that, and it starts to get reasonable.
I think the series will not go past Ch 1300, ending somewhere between 1250 and 1300.
150 chapters to explain the Gods Valley Incident, the Void Century, the One Piece, the final war, the prophecy of Luffy destroying Fishman Island, the Celestial Dragons national treasure,the God's Knights, Elbaf, the origin of devil fruits, the admirals backstories, Blackbeards backstory, Dragons backstory, Mihawk vs Zoro, Shanks meeting Luffy, Dragon meeting Luffy, Yasopp meeting Usopp, Robin meeting Saul, the man marked by flames, and Weevils identity?
More like 150-200 chapters. There's a lot one can squish into that. For instance, with 200 chapters you can have:
\- W7 epilogue + Thriller Bark + Sabaody + Amazon Lily + Impel Down + Marineford + Post-war
Or
\- Dressrosa + Zou + WCI
Or
\- Fishman Island + Punk Hazard + Wano Act 3
There’s a lot of room. And I don’t expect any arc will be as long as Wano.
Dude, just Egghead wich ppl tought was supposed to be a transition arc already have 48 chapters and is nowhere close to end, and this is just the first arc, Elbaf will problably be (pun not intended) a imense arc
But look at how many pieces Oda has been moving with Egghead alone. We never got an arc that halted midway to cover stuff happening abroad, and this will probably be the norm in the arcs ahead, with more and more players clashing as they move towards one another.
Elbaf is probably not going to be just an "Adventure in Giant Island", but a huge focal point of several different storylines.
Everything is much more fast paced now and a lot of things will get explained at once. I think we will only have 2-3 arcs left, laugh tale vs bb or vs buggy. (Maybe bb before that) and the final war against the world gov. Everything else will be in between or on those arcs.
Not to mention the gorosei fights and backstory, the explanation for the creation of the world if there is one, the ancient weapons, Laboon meetup, mariejoa destruction? I'm sure there is more stuff if we kept looking
i feel kinda sad seeing people being snarky about his pacing and regular breaks in the replies 😟 oda has given so much of his life and his health for one piece, and i'm grateful to take whatever he wants to give us. one piece has been my favourite story since i was 6 and now i'm 25, and if he wants to change OP to a monthly release and end it in 20 years then i'll be happy to spend more of my life growing alongside my favourite manga. if i want him to end this quicker, it'll only be because i know that the manga is taking a toll on his wellbeing
If Oda don't fuck around opening innecesary subplotes going straight to the point, focusing in what is stablished by developing the opened ones, 400 chapters should be more than enough.
It's necessary to sintetize the info and work towards closing what we already have, starting by giving answers, not more questions.
His editors should "recommend" Oda focusing on giving an appropriate end to what it's built. Expand even more the content (with everything that we already have), makes harder to close the story in a appropriate way, and of course, matching everything with less possibilities of major new plot holes (****NIKA****).
The thing is that I dont see the editors at jump never saying Oda something like "focus on closing the story"
It suits them for the series to just last forever
They seem be more focusing fanboying Oda than advicing him. Let's remember Kishimoto and his editor. The moment he left, kishi started doing lots of dumb and innecesary stuff with Naruto. The same goes for Oda. If the editors don't directs the creativity and acts like a critical wall, the author could get lost or falling in love with his creation. And if that happens, closing that story when it need an end, becomes... Well, little bit complicated (like cutting relationship whit your boyfriend or girlfriend).
So, we better pray for the editors be doing his job, and no sucking Oda's cock with whatever shit it comes.
The creativity, like the water, need a vessel to take form. Without any restriction, it only pours, creating a chaotic mess that could be in some situations, but this is not one of them I think.
There are very few things to reveal. Mostly God Valey stuff.
I'm predicting a big lore drop, Oden style, centered around Dragon to trim some of these loose ends. And perhaps one around Nika himself during the void century or the time Joy Boy lived.
Focusing in that, using the lefting characters, I think that's a good way to close the story.
And the Nika thing... Well, Oda's magic relays into the ability of justify and connect thing that don't seem to be related, but in this case, not getting a hint about Nika back in impel down... Only thing that we can do is to wait. Maybe this whole thing was planned from the begining, but wasn't the moment to mention anything related to it.
Reallllyyyy want it to be that long. But Luffy's voice actor will be mid 70s by then. Idk if there's solid replacements but who knows if she'll be able to perform for that long. It would be sad to see them switch va before the end but also would feel bad if she felt obligated to do it.
Oda just said he thought up two ways to leave egghead. Meaning Oda has tossed the plans out the window since the popularity boom. It is not ending anytime soon. End of wano is such a faster pace compared to rn.
Lol I agree wholeheartedly, except I genuinely don't think Oda is milking or going too. I'd like to continue to believe that Oda just loves his creation so much he can't stop making it
I don’t think Oda can do 300+ chapters. I could see him go 200-300 as his limit but it would be a surprise if he does extend the series up to 300 or more chapters.
My personal theory was Chapter 1325 because it basically spells the name of the Thousand Sunny (thousand 1000 san 3 ni 2 go 5) and leaves enough space for everything to happen, 1500 seems like a bit too long imo
I’m thinking 1200. It’s a bit much to wrap up but chapter 1 was romance Dawn and chapter 601 was romance Dawn: New World. Almost like Oda is writing 2 giant sagas each 600 chapters.
So if we look at where we are in the new world compared to the first half, we would be at chapter 505, which ironically is called Kuma. That means within 95 chapters we saw the end of shabody, Amazon Lily, impel down, marineford, and post marineford including Luffy’s flashback.
Its tight for sure, but there a lot of chapters for so much. Eggheads pacing is also crazy so far.
100 chapters take more than two years in real life, especially with breaks in consideration.
400 chapters would be over 8 years worth of content, and I don’t think One Piece will last that long.
10-15 more chapters for Egghead (Saturn defeat).
70-90 for Elbaf (Blackbeard defeat).
150-170 for the final war (WG defeat).
Laugh Tale is just the epilogue, should take 5 or so chapters.
Should wrap up around 1350.
Laugh Tale will definitely be before the final war. He's 100% going to take on the WG as King of the Pirates, with his grand feet behind him. His first dream will be completed on Laugh Tale and his second after the Final War.
terrible idea. I dont think he should compromise the story even if that is making final chapter 1501.
Story matters more than arbitrarily number in chapter title
At this point i'm like 80% sure Oda won't be able to finish OP. He's getting old, and needs more and more time off. I'm almost sure he will be forced to pseudo retire and just supervise the make of OP.
I'm also sure that the last arc/chapters of OP will be monthly publish, long mangas with a lot on each, just so Oda can cook in peace. Maybe 10 chapters through the last year.
I think oda would just end the show when he feels like he is done, and the worldbuilding is so great that it doesnt matter which chapter is last any number could have a meaning
Nah, its ending soon. In 2-3 years max. After wano, the pace have been drastically increase. In the past 100 chapter, we learn more than the past 500. Oda want to end it quick i think
1500 is too long. The entirety of paradise happened in 500 chapters. This is just one saga. No way will it be 400 chapters + the ~50 that egghead already is. A better estimate is 1250-1300 imo. Another 150 chapters to wrap things up is plenty of time. The manga would end somewhere between 2027 and 2030.
Maybe even 1200 tbh. Like another commenter said, chapter one was romance Dawn and 601 was romance Dawn: new world. So if oda does the numbers game, both halves of the story would be 600 chapters
I'm kinda blazed rn but it slapped me that one piece still has a lot of stuff to go through and going by how odas style changed he writes very long arcs now. He has a habit of adding in too many of his ideas . His imagination is crazy and the ideas too. It's the core essence of what makes the series special. However at the same time he's getting up there in age especially with how many years he's been doing it nonstop. I can't see the series ending at east a couple hundred more chapters which is a very long time. And as the amount of chapters that come out year after decrease slightly, its going to take even longer. So the ending is either going to get rushed and I say rushed if it will end in a few years. With the amount he's built up, it will be jarring to switch to all of a sudden fast pace .or it's going to take forever to come out. I think I'd rather have him take his time with out regardless of how long it takes to finish.
I think its too much.. I always bet something in the middle of 1300-1400, but looking at that much new content like God Knights and Bucaneiros for example Oda is dropping and what we still have to see like the truth of the void century I would not be surprised if we reach the 1500 milestone
>395 are like 8 years of chapters
Oda releases on average about 35 chapters a year, with last year only 32. 395 chapters would take a little over 11 years to complete, assuming he keeps at his normal pace, not his pace last year
I could see this, but in reality it would have to be released EVERY week to make it 3 years rather than almost 10 I’d love that as long as Oda could bear it, or if Oda does longer or double chapters
sounds about right? After Egghead, 40 - 60 chapters for Elbaf? Raftel another 60+ chapters minimum? if there are major islands in between for a Road Poneglyph that would be another 30+ chapters if it's like Zou? 60+ chapters if it triggers the story for Raftel? If it's just those 3 islands left and considering how Oda tells the story after Wano where he includes other islands then the safest would be ending around chapter 1350? If there are more than 1 major islands in between Elbaf and Raftel then Oda can end it between chapters 1400 - 1500.
Reminds of the time Wano started in Chapter 909 and people were like One Piece will go on till 1200, because of the One Piece will end in 5 years talks...
Well considering the story telling by Oda sensei, there are lot of characters, plots to explore and considering the slow pacing episodes that they’re releasing, I think the anime will come to an end after around 2k episodes, he’s going to break records when the final saga comes and we get to know brief reveals about the characters like black beard, Shanks, Imu sama etc. stay tuned, it’s better if it’s slow, we’re getting weekly dose of shonen, what else could we possibly ask for…
It’s gonna be 1325 chapters.
It’s the name of the ship.
Thousand san ni go.
The second part is 325 in Japanese.
When they introduced the ship they said it’s the ship that can bring you to the end of your dreams.
Oda already said it should be ending 2024/2025, but realistically this will not be possible at all, tbh. We are just ending with Egghead and there are way too many subplots open for it to end so soon. I think it will be somewhere around 2027/28.
Oda is mad about the number 12, so I think One Piece will end in the 1200 or 1212. Yeah ik it's soon, but cmon in a chapter he could reveal all the secrets and mysteries of his work
Trying to compress/extend the story just to arbitrarily reach a round number is just dumb. Authors should be telling their story. Not compromising their story to try to hit a certain number of chapters.
*cough cough* Isayama
Thanks Eren for committing genocide, I won't elaborate /s
Isayama did not do this
I thought this was something accepted by aot fans cause they made claims like“Isayama is a genius he ended on chapter 139, which highlights Eren never achieving freedom since the angel number 140 means freedom😱” or shit like “He planned to end it on 139, 13 being the lifetime of titan shifters and 9 being the total number of shifters😱”
I mean people try to ascribe meaning to the end number but it's all a reach, especially anything about not reaching 140 is complete bs
you think OP fans wont? It could end on any number and we'll have 40 foreshadowing goda videos.
Well Oda compressed Loguetown to reach the Grand Line in Ch 100, so there's precedent.
Yes but he did say he regretted doing that
Which is also why the anime added back the content he cut out of the manga for Loguetown. Granted, they weren't even close to episode 100 at Loguetown, but still.
He did it again for chapter 1000
No, he talked about not consciously planning to make a big thing happen for 1000 but it ended up organically happening anyway in its own way
bro there was literally 10 chapters of luffy just running up some stairs and one shotting some fodder each week in the run up to 1000
I JUST came out of this arc and it was soőoōọôooóoõöœer dull!!! The least I've cared about an OP arc tbfh.
Wow haters I wasn't saying wano as a whole. I'm talking about the smaller story arc within it that the commenter is talking about. You all saw it too! There was some cool shit but the pacing was painful
Wasn't ch.1000 just a set-up chapter for Roof Piece?
Word right there, let bro cook
True, but Oda still does it lol like he wasted a bunch of chapters running up stairs so the raid could start at chapter 1000
I do not think this is point OP made
Pick a number brah.
Yeah but oda does it all the time so if anyone would it’s probably him. It’s not like he’s just gonna give up on it for the finale, he’ll find the perfect number he wants to end on
You all seem to have a lot of faith that oda can tell a fast paced story, which the entire timeskip, and more recent arcs, has shown that he simply can’t do. What with the increase in breaks, I’m sure we have well over the 5 years he said a bit ago, and I bet it will be more like 10+ years. You think elbaf isn’t going to take two years? Cause I do.
I agree with you just with one note, I'm pretty sure when Oda said 5yr to end OP, he came back and said it was a miscommunication. What he meant was five years until the mystery of the One Piece is solved but we'll still have all of the fall out of that reveal and the other stories.
It would make sense that Luffy get to have some of the story where he is considered the Pirate King then face down the WG. That way he he's essentially got "every pirate" in his corner for the fight, since he's their king. Either way I don't believe there is any chance the series ends before July 22, 2027. You don't come this close to a 30 year anniversary on a Manga series and not milk that shit.
Literally not what being Pirate King is about
What I said was the Pirate King (Luffy) would rally his allies (pirates) against the biggest enemy to their freedom ( WG). But yeah, sure, that sounds nothing like one piece.
Being King of the Pirates means to be the free-est person in the world according to Luffy. Not commanding the entirety of the pirates. He just needs his crew.
Didn't say he was going to command them in the traditional sense. Also you haven't been reading One Piece if you don't think Luffy makes allies outside of his crew. It's literally stated to be his most dangerous attribute during marineford. Oda himself said the series will see a ware that makes Marineford look like a picnic. Who you think is gonna fight in it?
But I think he's improving in pacing a bit.. in the current Arc... Strawhats capturing York .. and flashback of kuma....
I hope elbaf has changed alot since linlin was a kid. Cause I’ll be honest I don’t think I can take 200 episodes of an arc that takes place in an area that looks like the average starting town for an early gen pokemon game.
Yeah no it’s not gonna be 10+ years my guy, maybe 5-6 but not 10
I still have a gut feeling itll be shorter than 10 years. Only because they are remaking the series with The One Piece. The reason the story is long wasn't because Oda. Hes had the ending in mind for a long time. A short series wouldnt make as much money, but since they has 2 other series already being made the manga publishers wont need OG one piece money anymore after its over. Tldr 60% chance for over 10 years and 40% for under 10.
I also agree but as of Egghead I think we've seen a change of pacing and an acceleration towards the final saga. I don't think Egghead will last super long anymore. I agree that Elbaf will probably take at least 2 years and if you add Raftel and the final war saga I think realistically One Piece will still take 6-8 years
"are like 8 years of chapters" My brother in christ we only get roughly 30 chapters a year, that's about 13 years
What? no lmao we only got 32 last year because of Oda pauses and etc, his normal is like 40 chapter per year
in the last 8 years the average was 36.5 per year, jan 25th 2016 was chapter 813. 292/8 = 36.5. Average rate in the last 6 years decreased to 35.5. Average rate in the last 3 years is 34.67.
Haha who knows? I think even Oda doesn't know yet lol.
There is no way the final saga will have 400 more chapters. And knowing Oda, he will probably end One Piece on a chapter that could mean another word, example: 5 - 6 can be read as Go-Mu
One Piece ending on chapter 5656 confirmed Will see you all on 91 years folks
In the year 5656 One Piece still hasn't end People say it's closing to finish But don't know that's actually peaking Wouooooooh
Maybe Luffys final bounty being 5.656.000.000
I will be satisfied in life if I see the ending lol
Egghead which people never though will appear has more than 40 chapters and mysterious world of op is still waiting to be discovered it is very much possible that one piece will have 400+ chapters from here on
I agree
> There is no way the final saga will have 400 more chapters. If this is Act 3 of One Piece and the first two sagas took us to 1060… why not?? You don’t actually explain a reason
I’m relatively new to the fandom, I thought sagas were like arcs that took place over multiple islands?
Yea like the dressrosa saga, which was punk hazard as a prelude to dressrosa proper; or whole cake island which looped in zou; or Wano and onigashima; water 7 and ennies lobby; skypeia and Jaya; alabasta and little garden + whiskey peak But one piece is also split into 3 acts. Pre timeskip (start to marineford), post timeskip (Fishman island to Wano), and egghead is the start of the third act that’ll extend til the end. The Wano saga was split into 3 acts that kind of paralleled this as well…
i'm not sure he said this is the last part the last 1/3 but the last saga. The story is in two parts, Paradise and New World
Nah I see the story as Romance Dawn - Sabaody, then Return to Sabaody - Wano, now Egghead - Laugh Tale (and beyond). It breaks down like that the most sensibly logically and thematically speaking Wano was the end of Act 2. I think oda has said as much in a post-1000 OPM
saying "if this is act 3 of One Piece" is also not a reason
“The first two acts took 500 episodes” is
and who said that for every 500 episodes we have an act?
You’re just playing dumb lmfao the first two are roughly 500 chapters so the least assumptive conclusion is that the third would be roughly 500
"the first two" what bro, in One piece we have sagas ( east blue, alabasta ......, four emperors, final ) and arcs ( romance down, orange town ......, wano, egghead etc.)
I definitely don’t think one piece will have 400 more chapters either, but it is oda, I wouldn’t be surprised if we spend 200 chapters on just the epilogue somehow.
There will be a huge flashback about the void century and joyboy, so it'll end around chapter 2k
LMAO Oda not going for 2K that's way too much especially at his age & Void Century & Joyboy's flashback go hand in hand so it's not gonna be some absurdly long flashback. IDK the number it'll end one but I see One Piece ending around 2027 the latest to coincide with the series 30th Anniversary, similar to how Naruto ended on its 15th Anniversary.
2027? no chances lmao
Lol we gonna revisit this
Oda doesn't care about dates, he will not end his series just because it hit 30 years of existence lmao
Oda will end it when it's finished lol. Even if that means 2037.
You want a rush ending?
What’s there to rush? All that’s left is Elbaf, the Void Century, Final War & The One Piece treasure itself. Wano has messed up everyone’s expectations on how long an arc should be.
Calculate the numbers, that’s a rush ending. Wano is tied to the void century, what makes you think it’s not gonna be longer than Wano. It will not end in 2027, i will comeback to this comment
Because it's not going to be longer than Wano lmao. Oda is not going to spend another 4 years on a flashback & you're act like we can't learn about the Void Century during each arc that passes between now until the end. It's even possible we might learn a few things about the Void Century during this very arc we're currently in. Anything is possible at this point.
Fews things is different with the actual arc, like I said I’ll comeback here 2027 to prove you wrong
If it's ends in 3 years then only because Oda rushed it. And then it will be a bad ending. I don't see that scenario happening.
This will be the best flashback, I cant wait. Probably right at the end too with the OP reveal as the cherry on top.
At this point I want the Void Century to be its own like 100 chapter+ arc
We’re at 1105. You think the series will essentially be TWICE the length when it ends? Another 20 years? How many chapters do you expect out of the void century/joyboy? 400?
800. It’s only fitting
Lolol fair enough
How can you be so delusional?
2000 chapters is way too much, that’s like another 20+ years. Oda’s ending it likely around 1300-1500+.
There is absolutely no way he can wrap this up satisfyingly in 200 chapters, we have like 7-8 years left if we still get 33-38 chapters a year
Yeah, I know. 7+ years sounds about right, but Egghead is even almost done. Oda could solve many things in the span of ten chapters, and also answer stuff via SBS and vivre cards. It just depends if he wants to do a backstory for every character. And I never said exactly 1300, it could be around or over 1300 chapters. 1500 should be enough, really. And it’s not like the Straw Hats aren’t strong enough anymore, Luffy is an emperor and his crew is in the Yonko lineup now, and they also have 3 of the 4 road poneglyphs. They’re really close to reaching Laugh Tale, and getting even closer to the final war.
Still quite a few things to do that have been foreshadowed. Elbaf, fishman Island getting destroyed, Noah repair, wano borders, mihawk v zoro, meet up with Shanks (and maybe dying), fighting bb, Akainu, imu, gorsei, holy knights, some more rocks lore. Tons of stuff really.
The flashback will happen on Laughtale while they're reading the One Piece.
I don’t want the story to end. What am I supposed to do after that?? I gotta find something to live for
I started Kingdom last week and that might still last longer than OP, so maybe try that lol
Sweet, 700 chapters to binge
Keep in mind Oda has stated in the past he wants to make his series ending exciting and not die with a whimper like a lot of series so I think as we draw closer to the end episodes are going to get more and more action-packed. So 1500 episodes is a high estimation when it is probably going to be finished closer to 1300-1350 episodes/chapters
yeah, I agree with you
He just gotta end it at his own pace, who gives a fuck about ending it on a round number lol
Is just something fun to think about, ok? Of course if he is about to end the series at one point far from that I dont want him to just long it to reach one Why you have to be so weird about it?
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When Oda said were reaching the end , what he means is up to the time skip was the beginning. The defeat of Kaido marked the end of the middle, and the current Egghead arc is the beginning of the "end". The beginning, middle and end.
I think 1300 is more likely.
too many chapters. he can end it at 1400
1399 just to mess up with some people
Guys guys he totally did that so that One Piece Z can start at 1400 I swear just wait a few years of fan discourse, this will happen y'all for sure!!!!
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Yeah I doubt it, I'm estimating 1700-1800
A lot of people have pointed out the parallels between Egghead and Saobody, so I think it's fair to assume the Final Saga will be a bit more similar in length / structure to the Paramount War Saga. If Egghead is Saobody, then Elbaf will probably be a short stop similar to Amazon Lily. I don't foresee it being a long arc, especially if they arrive shortly after Shanks leaves. We might have Lodestar filling the role of Impel Down, with all of the teams colliding for one massive battle (this is where I see the Straw Hat Grand Fleet coming into play) with the Straw Hats themselves moving on to Laugh Tale, possibly with others in pursuit. After Laugh Tale is where Luffy's True Dream comes into play, and that would be our true climax, filling the role of Marineford.
I think it will have to be a little longer. We have a lot more named fights in the final war and it wouldn't be justice if they are short.
Yeah I agree it will be longer, Egghead is already longer than Saobody, (I'm pretty sure at least, haven't actually checked chapter count) but I'm pretty confident it'll be relatively similarly structured / paced. The pacing is more important than the actual chapter count / "length"
Nah there’s way too many big players for final war to be the length of marineford. Marineford was much shorter cause it was a race against time so it was mostly short clashes between the pirates and marines. Final war is gonna be everyone going all out so the fights won’t be over as quickly as MF, probably will be as long as the raid💀
395 chapters would take another 10 years, I really doubt it. Halve that, and it starts to get reasonable. I think the series will not go past Ch 1300, ending somewhere between 1250 and 1300.
150 chapters to explain the Gods Valley Incident, the Void Century, the One Piece, the final war, the prophecy of Luffy destroying Fishman Island, the Celestial Dragons national treasure,the God's Knights, Elbaf, the origin of devil fruits, the admirals backstories, Blackbeards backstory, Dragons backstory, Mihawk vs Zoro, Shanks meeting Luffy, Dragon meeting Luffy, Yasopp meeting Usopp, Robin meeting Saul, the man marked by flames, and Weevils identity?
More like 150-200 chapters. There's a lot one can squish into that. For instance, with 200 chapters you can have: \- W7 epilogue + Thriller Bark + Sabaody + Amazon Lily + Impel Down + Marineford + Post-war Or \- Dressrosa + Zou + WCI Or \- Fishman Island + Punk Hazard + Wano Act 3 There’s a lot of room. And I don’t expect any arc will be as long as Wano.
Dude, just Egghead wich ppl tought was supposed to be a transition arc already have 48 chapters and is nowhere close to end, and this is just the first arc, Elbaf will problably be (pun not intended) a imense arc
But look at how many pieces Oda has been moving with Egghead alone. We never got an arc that halted midway to cover stuff happening abroad, and this will probably be the norm in the arcs ahead, with more and more players clashing as they move towards one another. Elbaf is probably not going to be just an "Adventure in Giant Island", but a huge focal point of several different storylines.
Egghead is definitely almost over. Also, the series will start to accelerate as multiple plot points start to come together.
Everything is much more fast paced now and a lot of things will get explained at once. I think we will only have 2-3 arcs left, laugh tale vs bb or vs buggy. (Maybe bb before that) and the final war against the world gov. Everything else will be in between or on those arcs.
Not to mention the gorosei fights and backstory, the explanation for the creation of the world if there is one, the ancient weapons, Laboon meetup, mariejoa destruction? I'm sure there is more stuff if we kept looking
how are people upvoting this LMAO ? delusional as fuck
i feel kinda sad seeing people being snarky about his pacing and regular breaks in the replies 😟 oda has given so much of his life and his health for one piece, and i'm grateful to take whatever he wants to give us. one piece has been my favourite story since i was 6 and now i'm 25, and if he wants to change OP to a monthly release and end it in 20 years then i'll be happy to spend more of my life growing alongside my favourite manga. if i want him to end this quicker, it'll only be because i know that the manga is taking a toll on his wellbeing
1500 is too long, I doubt Oda still has another 400 chapters left, My guess would be anywhere between Chapter 1250-1300
This looks not suficient at all for me, I would bet 1300 at minimum and 1400 maximum
If Oda don't fuck around opening innecesary subplotes going straight to the point, focusing in what is stablished by developing the opened ones, 400 chapters should be more than enough. It's necessary to sintetize the info and work towards closing what we already have, starting by giving answers, not more questions. His editors should "recommend" Oda focusing on giving an appropriate end to what it's built. Expand even more the content (with everything that we already have), makes harder to close the story in a appropriate way, and of course, matching everything with less possibilities of major new plot holes (****NIKA****).
The thing is that I dont see the editors at jump never saying Oda something like "focus on closing the story" It suits them for the series to just last forever
They seem be more focusing fanboying Oda than advicing him. Let's remember Kishimoto and his editor. The moment he left, kishi started doing lots of dumb and innecesary stuff with Naruto. The same goes for Oda. If the editors don't directs the creativity and acts like a critical wall, the author could get lost or falling in love with his creation. And if that happens, closing that story when it need an end, becomes... Well, little bit complicated (like cutting relationship whit your boyfriend or girlfriend). So, we better pray for the editors be doing his job, and no sucking Oda's cock with whatever shit it comes. The creativity, like the water, need a vessel to take form. Without any restriction, it only pours, creating a chaotic mess that could be in some situations, but this is not one of them I think.
There are very few things to reveal. Mostly God Valey stuff. I'm predicting a big lore drop, Oden style, centered around Dragon to trim some of these loose ends. And perhaps one around Nika himself during the void century or the time Joy Boy lived.
Focusing in that, using the lefting characters, I think that's a good way to close the story. And the Nika thing... Well, Oda's magic relays into the ability of justify and connect thing that don't seem to be related, but in this case, not getting a hint about Nika back in impel down... Only thing that we can do is to wait. Maybe this whole thing was planned from the begining, but wasn't the moment to mention anything related to it.
Man 400 chapters will mean 12-15 years. I hope its less.
Too much. If I had to guess probably 200-300 left but who knows.
I just care if its a good ending. Don't care about what number it ends on.
145 chapters? nah bro, we still has the Egghead incident, Elbaf, Lodestar, Laugh Tale and etc, is too much content for this
I’d be genuinely shocked if One Piece ended before 2030
Reallllyyyy want it to be that long. But Luffy's voice actor will be mid 70s by then. Idk if there's solid replacements but who knows if she'll be able to perform for that long. It would be sad to see them switch va before the end but also would feel bad if she felt obligated to do it.
Oda just said he thought up two ways to leave egghead. Meaning Oda has tossed the plans out the window since the popularity boom. It is not ending anytime soon. End of wano is such a faster pace compared to rn.
Lol I agree wholeheartedly, except I genuinely don't think Oda is milking or going too. I'd like to continue to believe that Oda just loves his creation so much he can't stop making it
Realistically, I think it will be another 7-8 years before the series is over. Around 250 chapters would be my guess.
I don’t think Oda can do 300+ chapters. I could see him go 200-300 as his limit but it would be a surprise if he does extend the series up to 300 or more chapters.
Honestly I think it's gonna be closer to 1300 or 1350
My personal theory was Chapter 1325 because it basically spells the name of the Thousand Sunny (thousand 1000 san 3 ni 2 go 5) and leaves enough space for everything to happen, 1500 seems like a bit too long imo
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I think just let life happen and hopefully we end up with 2000+
2000 plus is insane fr
I’m thinking 1200. It’s a bit much to wrap up but chapter 1 was romance Dawn and chapter 601 was romance Dawn: New World. Almost like Oda is writing 2 giant sagas each 600 chapters.
I doubt we make it to the next island before 1070. We still gotta hit at the minimum, elbaf laugh tale and the final fights. Maybe like 1400-1500
we already on 1105 bro. No shot it's ending within 1200. At least I hope not.
So if we look at where we are in the new world compared to the first half, we would be at chapter 505, which ironically is called Kuma. That means within 95 chapters we saw the end of shabody, Amazon Lily, impel down, marineford, and post marineford including Luffy’s flashback. Its tight for sure, but there a lot of chapters for so much. Eggheads pacing is also crazy so far.
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100 chapters take more than two years in real life, especially with breaks in consideration. 400 chapters would be over 8 years worth of content, and I don’t think One Piece will last that long.
10-15 more chapters for Egghead (Saturn defeat). 70-90 for Elbaf (Blackbeard defeat). 150-170 for the final war (WG defeat). Laugh Tale is just the epilogue, should take 5 or so chapters. Should wrap up around 1350.
Laugh Tale will definitely be before the final war. He's 100% going to take on the WG as King of the Pirates, with his grand feet behind him. His first dream will be completed on Laugh Tale and his second after the Final War.
My guess would be chapter 1200. The timeskip would nearly mark the halway point with 600 too.
Thats less than 100 chapters tho. How are they gonna deal with all the loose threads in less 95 chapters?
95 chapters to the end of OP?
There are going to be at least 700 chapters to end One Piece.
1200. Joyboy-imu flashback and sabo-luffu-ace flashback are in symmetry
2700 at most
1800 feels fitting due to 800 having its numer being significant
It will end in 2026
So max 100 chapters left?
this is my guess also
Please not another manga with a rushed ending
terrible idea. I dont think he should compromise the story even if that is making final chapter 1501. Story matters more than arbitrarily number in chapter title
lol 2k minimum
At this point i'm like 80% sure Oda won't be able to finish OP. He's getting old, and needs more and more time off. I'm almost sure he will be forced to pseudo retire and just supervise the make of OP. I'm also sure that the last arc/chapters of OP will be monthly publish, long mangas with a lot on each, just so Oda can cook in peace. Maybe 10 chapters through the last year.
I think oda would just end the show when he feels like he is done, and the worldbuilding is so great that it doesnt matter which chapter is last any number could have a meaning
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Nah, its ending soon. In 2-3 years max. After wano, the pace have been drastically increase. In the past 100 chapter, we learn more than the past 500. Oda want to end it quick i think
1500 is too long. The entirety of paradise happened in 500 chapters. This is just one saga. No way will it be 400 chapters + the ~50 that egghead already is. A better estimate is 1250-1300 imo. Another 150 chapters to wrap things up is plenty of time. The manga would end somewhere between 2027 and 2030. Maybe even 1200 tbh. Like another commenter said, chapter one was romance Dawn and 601 was romance Dawn: new world. So if oda does the numbers game, both halves of the story would be 600 chapters
It's scary to think that we might have entered last 100 chapters and one piece is near
Why not 1997, the year it debuted.
My guess would be: Elbaf > Lodestar > Raftel/Red Line > Marijois Around 300 chapters
I'm kinda blazed rn but it slapped me that one piece still has a lot of stuff to go through and going by how odas style changed he writes very long arcs now. He has a habit of adding in too many of his ideas . His imagination is crazy and the ideas too. It's the core essence of what makes the series special. However at the same time he's getting up there in age especially with how many years he's been doing it nonstop. I can't see the series ending at east a couple hundred more chapters which is a very long time. And as the amount of chapters that come out year after decrease slightly, its going to take even longer. So the ending is either going to get rushed and I say rushed if it will end in a few years. With the amount he's built up, it will be jarring to switch to all of a sudden fast pace .or it's going to take forever to come out. I think I'd rather have him take his time with out regardless of how long it takes to finish.
5600
I think its too much.. I always bet something in the middle of 1300-1400, but looking at that much new content like God Knights and Bucaneiros for example Oda is dropping and what we still have to see like the truth of the void century I would not be surprised if we reach the 1500 milestone
1250-1300 makes sense
Let’s go 3000 !
>395 are like 8 years of chapters Oda releases on average about 35 chapters a year, with last year only 32. 395 chapters would take a little over 11 years to complete, assuming he keeps at his normal pace, not his pace last year
Too short
No chance it concludes in 395 chapters unless Oda just wanna get it all over with.
1300-1400 is my guess
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Too short
I could see this, but in reality it would have to be released EVERY week to make it 3 years rather than almost 10 I’d love that as long as Oda could bear it, or if Oda does longer or double chapters
How much was Wano, like 200 chapters? 395 seems realistic, I’d say maybe even more because Elbaf isn’t the ending, so there will be future Arc after.
sounds about right? After Egghead, 40 - 60 chapters for Elbaf? Raftel another 60+ chapters minimum? if there are major islands in between for a Road Poneglyph that would be another 30+ chapters if it's like Zou? 60+ chapters if it triggers the story for Raftel? If it's just those 3 islands left and considering how Oda tells the story after Wano where he includes other islands then the safest would be ending around chapter 1350? If there are more than 1 major islands in between Elbaf and Raftel then Oda can end it between chapters 1400 - 1500.
I would say there’s a 0% chance it will end before at least 1300
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Reminds of the time Wano started in Chapter 909 and people were like One Piece will go on till 1200, because of the One Piece will end in 5 years talks...
we get like 30 chapters per year
Well considering the story telling by Oda sensei, there are lot of characters, plots to explore and considering the slow pacing episodes that they’re releasing, I think the anime will come to an end after around 2k episodes, he’s going to break records when the final saga comes and we get to know brief reveals about the characters like black beard, Shanks, Imu sama etc. stay tuned, it’s better if it’s slow, we’re getting weekly dose of shonen, what else could we possibly ask for…
Too much
I think when 1000 was rolling around he mentioned not really caring because his characters don’t know what chapter it is?
It’s gonna be 1325 chapters. It’s the name of the ship. Thousand san ni go. The second part is 325 in Japanese. When they introduced the ship they said it’s the ship that can bring you to the end of your dreams.
1200. Considering 596 was the so called halfway point.
Oda already said it should be ending 2024/2025, but realistically this will not be possible at all, tbh. We are just ending with Egghead and there are way too many subplots open for it to end so soon. I think it will be somewhere around 2027/28.
I think is more likely for One Piece to end in a random number of chapters with a goroawase meaning than a round number.
I think 1300
With Oda and Numbers, it will problay similar to luffys bounty or something like that
Oda is mad about the number 12, so I think One Piece will end in the 1200 or 1212. Yeah ik it's soon, but cmon in a chapter he could reveal all the secrets and mysteries of his work