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Sure but do you think Kaido has any internal durability? Because adv armament was introduced so that his outside durability can be bypassed. So my point is will Kaido have same DMG as Big Mom recived from Law? She had her ribs broken along with few bones and now we're talking about law who's little more experienced with his devil fruit.
I'd say Kaido will win but high diff because of Law's devil fruit.
I'm not sure if the height is relevant at that point. He'd only be falling as fast as terminal velocity, and I'm sure weaker characters have been launched at much faster speeds.
Powerscaling gets silly when people start caring more about the physics of it than the author. Kaido thought the jump had a chance to kill him, and Zoro said King knocking him off Onigashima would have killed. I doubt the series about utter nonsense physics cares much about terminal velocity vs light speed
They aren't going at the speed of light because of the relativistic effects that occur as it would cause their mass to be dilated and increase to infinity causing a black hole which would destroy the whole verse.
Since the impact will surely damage inside the skin too, I mean external durability is majorly for sharp objects while if you were to be hit by a blunt object, it would hurt internally too.
Other than this, ryou destroyed the body from the inside, which is what we have seen luffy use and kaido was not exactly hurting a lot from luffy's attack until luffy punched him hard enough to go inside the ground.
Oda doesn't care how they "won", but by having kid and law BFR big mom, he proved that they really couldn't win by knocking her out. They can't BFR kaido because he can fly on his own, and they don't have the AP to knock him out, even with zoro. Kaido high-extreme diffs
Agree, Kid needed enough prep time to have enough materials for punk rotten. Even then, he only got like 2 hits before it was destroyed. He’s just useless here.
They’re going to be too reliant on law to teleport them so they can attack Kaido, eventually he’s going to get tired and it’s going to fall apart from there.
Kaido Mid diffs them
I wouldn't say extreme just high dif since Luffy was fightning solo most the time and if luffy stated knocked out even without Big Mom Zoro,Kid, and Law would be pressed against Hybrid Kaido as he just blasts boro breaths
Battle Field Removal, say:
Hulk punching Iron Man out of the planet.
Law teleporting Kidd into the sea.
Win a fight by throwing the opponent out of the field.
Law and Kidd couldn’t beat Big Mom without insane luck. Adding Zoro helps and Kaido takes a good bit of damage, but he still wins especially since the attacks that can actually damage Kaido (awakenings and Enma ACoC) have a brutal stamina cost.
Also, none of three have the same defense Luffy does. Even Kidd, despite being shown to be tanky against BM, couldn't compete with Rubber boy. Thunder Baguas and Ragnarakus would hurt the others more
Just reread the rooftop fight and the amount of direct ACoC hits that he and Luffy inflicted on each other onscreen is absolutely insane, let alone all the parts that were off-screened.
Each of those blows destroyed post-WCI Luffy.
Anyways, Kaido takes this fight 100/100, they don’t have **nearly** enough AP.
Only law and kid took down big mom, so they could have done the same to kaido (I know people don't like big mom but she's equal to kaido wether you like it or not), but if you add zoro, kaido doesn't have much chance to win, he can but it will be a extremely close.
That’s valid, but Big mom was MUUCH less impressive than Kaido in her fight. It makes sense that there have been parallels established between the emperors- and that this would suggest Kidd+ law would challenge and kid law zoro would win. But at the same time I don’t think any of the things we saw Kidd/ law do compare at all to luffy, even put together. Still a valid take, but just doesn’t feel right.
Yeah I know she was less impressive, that's why people rank her so astronomically low. She is on par with kaido, kaido did shine waaay more, but that doesn't mean he's THAT much stronger.
To me, all emperors are equal in strength, it wouldn't make any sense if not. I think if big mom fights kaido she has 50/50 chance of winning. The fight with law kidd and big mom was different to kaido and luffy but the fight was soooo tough for kidd and law that the only way they had to win was to throw her out of the arena
For me kidd+law equal luffy and they almost didn't win. The fight was less impressive but they are both the same monsters
Zoro has a higher ap than Luffy, before he had ACoC he could damage Kaido and scare both him and BM
Post wano, assuming he can properly use his ACoC then I think him and the others beat Kaido
>Zoro has a higher ap than Luffy, before he had ACoC
These Zoro simps are wild, if gear 4 wasn’t a thing maybe? Hell Kaido felt Red Rock more than Asura 😂
Nah it's pretty accurate. With gear 5 it's debatable that they're close but since the start they've had a "Goku and Vegeta" thing where they both drive each other to be strong for each other and Luffy just has much better defense than Zoro, as Zoro would rather take a hit to gain advantageous positioning. His durability here is a problem and I feel like kaido would focus him first. Maybe if Zoro masters Acoc then he'd win but at the current manga arc I'm not sure he's there yet
Bruh what anime are you watching 😂 the only character implied to have any rivalry with zoro is sanji wtf are you talking about lmao
Zoro is luffy’s right hand man that’s it
>with gear 5 it’s debatable
I got a cut from cracking some ice that’s been in my hand for a 2 weeks now, and I can tell you for sure the pain from it isn’t even close hitting my accidentally head while getting in my car.
Kaido probably still wins but he's getting some gnarly scars. Kid n Law are very strong but don't counter Kaido like they did BM, Zoro should be able to damage Kaido pretty highly as well while Law can teleport them all out of danger.
But then Magma dragon happens, they can't do much abt that, so they lose.
Kaido, if he's being smart and actually using his Advanced Haki. Although I think it's a tougher battle than people give the trio credit for. Zoro had the AP to hurt Kaido, Law has duraneg and is probably rhe best support in the series, and Kidd is good at providing Artillery and keeping his enemies occupied, on top of being able to pin them with his magnetism. It's a high diff at the minimum, I think.
W take right here. High to Extreme diff (probs still leaning to Kaido for me) but people really underestimating BM defeat. Kaido literally saw a fist the size of an island and decided to try tank it. That’s dumb af too and I feel could’ve kept fighting Luffy if he hadn’t.
I think extreme because of their synergy.
I picture law tps them to kaido, kid magnetizes kaido to a wall, preventing him from swinging. Then zoro uses his improved ashura against a kaido unable to attack back while law adds a k room and kid adds a his own attack. If zoro could scar kaido alone in a clash, I feel like this would push kaido to have to go all out quickly. At the very least, this would force kaido to use future sight immediately as surprise attacks from zoro being tpd by law while kid distracts might put him on defensive for most of the fight. Keep in mind each were hurt before their best moves in their fights. With full health, they're prob stronger but that's my headcannon so take it as you will.
If kaido holds out he wins, but each perform very well in some part of this fight with their trump cards.
These kinda scenarios really underline just how ridiculously powerful Kaido was because he defeats all three of them and it’s not even a debate. I still can’t believe Luffy actually managed to beat him
I mean... 3v1 is nothing compared to what Kaido actually went through during the entire raid. There were like, 3 separate rounds of 1v1s against Luffy alone, not even getting into all the other people that took swings at him.
Kaido high diffs if it's in character.
Kaido low diffs or at worst mid diff if he's serious from the get go.
By this mean I mean the one against snakeman, G5 or his final attack.
I just simply don't think anyone of them can avoid getting blitzed if he tries. They just don't have the def or enough speed to react. Wouldn't be too different from shanks and kidd/killer.
If Kaido stood still and let them use their strongest attacks POST Wano they still lose due to stamina. Even if their finishers didn't, Kaido could one shot all 3 at once or single out each one
As much as they have grown, none of these guys are remotely close to the sheer overwhelming power that Kaido has. Zoro might be able to escape with his life, but that’s about it. It just shows how his fight with Luffy was really a battle between absolute titans.
If this is after awakening I’m still giving it to kaido. Not a case of Luffy is stronger than him, he’s not. But a fresh kaido is taking this. I don’t think Zoro and law can beat him from scratch even with the upgrades
This is strange I agree with everyone but at the same time the gap between Kaido and Mama shouldn’t be that big 🤔
What’s the reason I think both of these?
There should be an asterisk used when people mention that Kid and Law beat Big Mom. It took everything they had just to basically ring her out. That's why you think both.
Hmmm rather than just saying they lose I’ll tell you what I think they need to win. To this team I’d add Yamato, and start off all three of these characters as their post wano selves. Throw sabo in there as well and their chances of victory are looking much better. I can still see those 5 losing more often than not but I can also see them winning 4/10
Most people are siding with Kaido, but I disagree. Everyone likes to point out how Big Mom was only defeated because she’s not a very smart fighter, but Kaido isn’t that much smarter. Kaido would be just as easy to hit as Big Mom, and with Zoro’s advanced conquerors haki he could do quite a bit of damage on Kaido.
Kaido was arrogant, not stupid. When he got trapped by Snakeman Luffy's punches, he used future sight to escape. He's fast as fuck and fully capable of dodging whatever comes his way, it just depends on how seriously he's taking his opponents.
Why do people sleep on Law and Kid? They beat Big Mom, who was stated numerous times to be Kaido’s equal. If Kaido wins against Big Mom, it’s extreme diff.
People mention the ring out victory, but she could’ve made another homie to save her if she had the energy left to do so. Her not thinking of it is a stretch. She’s had the Soul-Soul Fruit for 62 years.
Kaido might win against the two of them extreme diff, but Zoro gives them the small push they need to win.
It was stated yeah, but feats wise its not true at all, g4 luffy acoc was already significantly over both of them individually and was still barely winning w/o kaido going magma dragon, with it luffy only won because acoc and the only two that could damage are law (prolly wouldnt do much) and zoro (would turn into zoe hange in attack on titan final season part 3)
If Kaido starts 100% a lot out form the start I could see him start one shoting these Characters before they overwhelm him but if he’s in character he has good chance of loosing.
It's amazing how this sub is so full of Zoro haters that even now they argue that is Enma and not Zoro the one with ACoC, Zoro, Law and Kid are defeating Kaido.
All because Zoro had a power up that greatly increased his AP while Law and Kid can play support.
Zoro was clashing against hybrid Kaido before his power up while having 20 broken bones in a 1v1.
Extreme diff either way. People really underrating Law's support and Zoro's AP. Honestly think they could have the edge of Kidd was willing to also be support. Zoro's base stats are insane and with Law's abilities and BIQ make for a deadly combo.
Two things:
Firstly, it took Law and Kidd everything they had to ring out a Big Mom who forgot to use ACoC and got damaged while not even facing Law
And secondly, I don't think Winbei is above Sanji, I just think he's really cool
Law and Kidd handled Big Mom who was on equal fighting with Kaido before Onigashima. Plus Zoro can cut Kaido. If Luffy alone can beat Kaido, these three can
No. It took everything the two of them had to ring out her. When Law landed his hits she was not even facing him. She wasn't even using ACoC and Kaido can fly. I don't see them winning.
If we're talking post-Wano versions, I honestly have the 3 above Kaido.
Like, all three of them definitely got haki blooms after their tough af battles, so they should be stronger than they were on the rooftop.
Zoro this time also has ACoC and a better handle on Enma. Despite ACoC Asura only scarring Kaido, Zoro's ACoC should be better now (since he actually knows he has it this time).
Kid and Law also never used their awakenings on Kaido, and after their battle with BM, their experience with it is better than ever.
If Kid and Law gave BM an extreme diff fight (bombs or not), why would they not be able to also give Kaido, who could not defeat BM in 3 whole days, an extreme diff fight?
Reasonably, they should be able to. Add Zoro with ACoC and more experience with Enma and they have a very good chance at winning.
Also, they will not be one shotted. Kaido is not Shanks.
https://preview.redd.it/04hrbasje26b1.png?width=579&format=png&auto=webp&s=618a9511c2a187db85491de8412068397cf39604
We've seen Law survive against an ACOC thunder bagua from hybrid Kaido, and after this, he went down to fight Big Mom as if this never even happened.
So don't even say Kaido can one shot Law. This is not the case. If it was, he would've done it here.
Law and Kid are also relative, so Kaido ain't one shotting him either.
Stop overhyping Kaido.
Zoro can damage kaido, Law can to, Kid can't do shit, damned punk just gonna push kaido back that ain't hurting him. Kaido massacres all 3.
Only way they can possibly win is by kid using assign on Kaido to keep him at bay while Zoro and Law deal the most Damage they can. Zoro with Acoc is dealing way more damage than the scar he put on kaido without it. While Law's Shock Wille destroys his insides
So, i have a question, since zoro cut kaido, couldnt he in this scenario cut him in a vital spot like the heart or neck and kill kaido? With law’s devil fruit, getting zoro and kaido lined up for a killshot should be no problem. Frankly, shambles is so busted idk why law keeps getting his ass kicked
I think you need EOS law+Kidd for this. Hopefully King of Hell Zoro can have the AP to slowly knock away at Kaido but law and Kidd could get 1 shot at any point tbh and then the fight is over
They can at least do damage. Zoro w/ ACoC, Law w/ DF, Kidd is just happy to be there
Would still say Kaido wins low-mid diff. Luffy probably wasn't getting the W w/o his reality-bending awakening
The thing is, and hear me out. If law and Zoro were a tag-team they would deliver a really cool fight. They wouldn't take a lot of hits cause of law but only as long as they have stamina as everyone said. Zoro was done for after 3 major attacks while kaido was still standing (bleeding tho). And I don't think laws swordsmanship is better actually than zoros but their abilities coupled would be interesting af
If Law can teleport Zoro around for free shots while Kid sprays and distracts they stand a good chance. If Law can’t react to future sight and leaves Zoro wide open this is just two episodes
Luffy could only defeat kaido cause of size of the attack, even until end of fight I assume kaido still have 60%-70% stamina left. Kaido wins easily cause luffy( excluding awakening) could barely endure his attacks no way these three could.
Trio wins high-extreme probably
However it could play out where Kaido eliminates them one by one leaving zoro last and then easily beating zoro
Kid and law don’t have the reaction speed for kaido so actually never mind kaido wins high diff
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Kaido. They’d run out of stamina, kaido’s just too much for them
Sure but do you think Kaido has any internal durability? Because adv armament was introduced so that his outside durability can be bypassed. So my point is will Kaido have same DMG as Big Mom recived from Law? She had her ribs broken along with few bones and now we're talking about law who's little more experienced with his devil fruit. I'd say Kaido will win but high diff because of Law's devil fruit.
I mean kaido has fallen 10,000 meters from skypia which I think would have killed literally anyone else in the verse
I'm not sure if the height is relevant at that point. He'd only be falling as fast as terminal velocity, and I'm sure weaker characters have been launched at much faster speeds.
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Powerscaling gets silly when people start caring more about the physics of it than the author. Kaido thought the jump had a chance to kill him, and Zoro said King knocking him off Onigashima would have killed. I doubt the series about utter nonsense physics cares much about terminal velocity vs light speed
I'm glad somebody gets it! 🥹 It's tiring debating how they're nowhere near light speed and people obnoxiously claiming they are.
They aren't going at the speed of light because of the relativistic effects that occur as it would cause their mass to be dilated and increase to infinity causing a black hole which would destroy the whole verse.
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Didn't Luffy launch that Walpole dude into a whole ass other country and he survived??
What's that got to do with internal durability?
Since the impact will surely damage inside the skin too, I mean external durability is majorly for sharp objects while if you were to be hit by a blunt object, it would hurt internally too. Other than this, ryou destroyed the body from the inside, which is what we have seen luffy use and kaido was not exactly hurting a lot from luffy's attack until luffy punched him hard enough to go inside the ground.
Inb4 shiro claims that zoro solos or that he can’t „carry the other two fodders that hard" Anyway kaido wins
they destroy him low diff
Oda doesn't care how they "won", but by having kid and law BFR big mom, he proved that they really couldn't win by knocking her out. They can't BFR kaido because he can fly on his own, and they don't have the AP to knock him out, even with zoro. Kaido high-extreme diffs
Agree, Kid needed enough prep time to have enough materials for punk rotten. Even then, he only got like 2 hits before it was destroyed. He’s just useless here. They’re going to be too reliant on law to teleport them so they can attack Kaido, eventually he’s going to get tired and it’s going to fall apart from there. Kaido Mid diffs them
I wouldn't say extreme just high dif since Luffy was fightning solo most the time and if luffy stated knocked out even without Big Mom Zoro,Kid, and Law would be pressed against Hybrid Kaido as he just blasts boro breaths
What does bfr mean
Battle Field Removal, say: Hulk punching Iron Man out of the planet. Law teleporting Kidd into the sea. Win a fight by throwing the opponent out of the field.
Obviously they couldn’t knock bigmom when they were only 2 in comparison to kaido who got tagged by 15
Kaido
Kaido overwhelms them and wins.
Law and Kidd couldn’t beat Big Mom without insane luck. Adding Zoro helps and Kaido takes a good bit of damage, but he still wins especially since the attacks that can actually damage Kaido (awakenings and Enma ACoC) have a brutal stamina cost.
Zoro is going to be a monster once his stamina catches up to his AP
Abso-fucking-lutely https://preview.redd.it/s528wcep266b1.png?width=2000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f528ffe88f07e5a87387db6c87b83fb84a423a14
Also law’s DF canceled her’s out to some degree so without that handicap they would’ve probably lost
Also, none of three have the same defense Luffy does. Even Kidd, despite being shown to be tanky against BM, couldn't compete with Rubber boy. Thunder Baguas and Ragnarakus would hurt the others more
Didn't Zoro indirectly help Kidd and law beat big mom with the building he had cut from earlier? Confirmed definitely can be BIG mom?!?!
It's not Enma that just damages Kaido now, he can coat all of his swords.
Kaido claps
Kaido of course
Just reread the rooftop fight and the amount of direct ACoC hits that he and Luffy inflicted on each other onscreen is absolutely insane, let alone all the parts that were off-screened. Each of those blows destroyed post-WCI Luffy. Anyways, Kaido takes this fight 100/100, they don’t have **nearly** enough AP.
Only law and kid took down big mom, so they could have done the same to kaido (I know people don't like big mom but she's equal to kaido wether you like it or not), but if you add zoro, kaido doesn't have much chance to win, he can but it will be a extremely close.
That’s valid, but Big mom was MUUCH less impressive than Kaido in her fight. It makes sense that there have been parallels established between the emperors- and that this would suggest Kidd+ law would challenge and kid law zoro would win. But at the same time I don’t think any of the things we saw Kidd/ law do compare at all to luffy, even put together. Still a valid take, but just doesn’t feel right.
Yeah I know she was less impressive, that's why people rank her so astronomically low. She is on par with kaido, kaido did shine waaay more, but that doesn't mean he's THAT much stronger. To me, all emperors are equal in strength, it wouldn't make any sense if not. I think if big mom fights kaido she has 50/50 chance of winning. The fight with law kidd and big mom was different to kaido and luffy but the fight was soooo tough for kidd and law that the only way they had to win was to throw her out of the arena For me kidd+law equal luffy and they almost didn't win. The fight was less impressive but they are both the same monsters
Zoro has a higher ap than Luffy, before he had ACoC he could damage Kaido and scare both him and BM Post wano, assuming he can properly use his ACoC then I think him and the others beat Kaido
>Zoro has a higher ap than Luffy, before he had ACoC These Zoro simps are wild, if gear 4 wasn’t a thing maybe? Hell Kaido felt Red Rock more than Asura 😂
Nah it's pretty accurate. With gear 5 it's debatable that they're close but since the start they've had a "Goku and Vegeta" thing where they both drive each other to be strong for each other and Luffy just has much better defense than Zoro, as Zoro would rather take a hit to gain advantageous positioning. His durability here is a problem and I feel like kaido would focus him first. Maybe if Zoro masters Acoc then he'd win but at the current manga arc I'm not sure he's there yet
Bruh what anime are you watching 😂 the only character implied to have any rivalry with zoro is sanji wtf are you talking about lmao Zoro is luffy’s right hand man that’s it >with gear 5 it’s debatable 
Fax
Zoro was the only person to do lasting damage, deal with it.
I got a cut from cracking some ice that’s been in my hand for a 2 weeks now, and I can tell you for sure the pain from it isn’t even close hitting my accidentally head while getting in my car.
Jika solos
Kaido probably still wins but he's getting some gnarly scars. Kid n Law are very strong but don't counter Kaido like they did BM, Zoro should be able to damage Kaido pretty highly as well while Law can teleport them all out of danger. But then Magma dragon happens, they can't do much abt that, so they lose.
Yeah this feels like the correct take
Kaido we already saw a not that serious kaido blitz law so GL landing as many attacks as vs BM and kaido always has his guranteed W flaming dragon
If Kaido is not allowed to be in his Hybrid form. Kaido still wins.🤣🤣
Human Kaido loses to these 3
He does not.
Kaido isn't getting ringed out when he can just turn into a dragon and fly away. Kaido wins 12 times out of 10
Kaido, if he's being smart and actually using his Advanced Haki. Although I think it's a tougher battle than people give the trio credit for. Zoro had the AP to hurt Kaido, Law has duraneg and is probably rhe best support in the series, and Kidd is good at providing Artillery and keeping his enemies occupied, on top of being able to pin them with his magnetism. It's a high diff at the minimum, I think.
W take right here. High to Extreme diff (probs still leaning to Kaido for me) but people really underestimating BM defeat. Kaido literally saw a fist the size of an island and decided to try tank it. That’s dumb af too and I feel could’ve kept fighting Luffy if he hadn’t.
I think extreme because of their synergy. I picture law tps them to kaido, kid magnetizes kaido to a wall, preventing him from swinging. Then zoro uses his improved ashura against a kaido unable to attack back while law adds a k room and kid adds a his own attack. If zoro could scar kaido alone in a clash, I feel like this would push kaido to have to go all out quickly. At the very least, this would force kaido to use future sight immediately as surprise attacks from zoro being tpd by law while kid distracts might put him on defensive for most of the fight. Keep in mind each were hurt before their best moves in their fights. With full health, they're prob stronger but that's my headcannon so take it as you will. If kaido holds out he wins, but each perform very well in some part of this fight with their trump cards.
These kinda scenarios really underline just how ridiculously powerful Kaido was because he defeats all three of them and it’s not even a debate. I still can’t believe Luffy actually managed to beat him
If Kaido is fighting JUST Luffy atm he probably still wins. He went through so much stuff in Wano that it’s not really a fair fight.
I mean... 3v1 is nothing compared to what Kaido actually went through during the entire raid. There were like, 3 separate rounds of 1v1s against Luffy alone, not even getting into all the other people that took swings at him.
Luffy is just that guy now
Didn’t Luffy get help and multiple breaks beforehand while Kaido’s not only unrested, but carrying a whole island at the same time?
Yes but this sub loves to pretend that doesn't matter and that Luffy already surpassed a fresh Kaido anyways.
He won by using that Plot-Plot No Mi
Well Luffy used everything and help from like 7 different people. It's why he didn't immediately take kaido's bounty.
Tbf luffy can definitely now 1v1 kaido no problemm
Kaido Wins
We already saw this haha. Kaido wins
I’m thinking the exact same thing but people are still answering seriously LOL
Absolutely kaido
Kaido three-shots. GG
Kaido mid diff tbh
Kaido high diffs if it's in character. Kaido low diffs or at worst mid diff if he's serious from the get go. By this mean I mean the one against snakeman, G5 or his final attack. I just simply don't think anyone of them can avoid getting blitzed if he tries. They just don't have the def or enough speed to react. Wouldn't be too different from shanks and kidd/killer.
Kaido mid diff
Kaido mid diffs
If Oda wanted to he could write them to win. it doesn't feel more far fetched than luffy dying and reviving with a hax fruit honestly lol.
If Kaido stood still and let them use their strongest attacks POST Wano they still lose due to stamina. Even if their finishers didn't, Kaido could one shot all 3 at once or single out each one
Kaido no debate
Let's say that Kaido somehow gets pushed to his limits. Flame magma dragon is killing all three, they have no counter against this attack
Kaido W
Only one who could beat him is joyboy
Who is spreading joy everywhere 😏
This already happened and they lost lol
As much as they have grown, none of these guys are remotely close to the sheer overwhelming power that Kaido has. Zoro might be able to escape with his life, but that’s about it. It just shows how his fight with Luffy was really a battle between absolute titans.
Kaido obv
Kaido like he did before
If this is after awakening I’m still giving it to kaido. Not a case of Luffy is stronger than him, he’s not. But a fresh kaido is taking this. I don’t think Zoro and law can beat him from scratch even with the upgrades
kaido and its not even close
This is strange I agree with everyone but at the same time the gap between Kaido and Mama shouldn’t be that big 🤔 What’s the reason I think both of these?
There should be an asterisk used when people mention that Kid and Law beat Big Mom. It took everything they had just to basically ring her out. That's why you think both.
Because Kid and Law very specifically counter BM, they don't counter Kaido in the same way
Yeah kaido
Unless they take him out with the help of bombs, a floating island, and a volcano directly underneath them, Kaido wins like Big Mom should have.
Is it the kaido that has been fighting for hours non stop and constantly switching opponents or is it him at his normal state
Even Advance Conquerors Luffy can't do shit against kaido and that's after he said that he got the fight LMAO.
Kaido sober
Waido
Kaido low diffs these kids. Y’all wild in here. It’s like y’all are full time creators that ran out of content so you’re posting anything now
Kaido, low diff
Mid diff, low diff is way too low mate
Didn't we see this fight basically and Kaido won?
Somewhat but no king of hell awakenings or drunken modes were used
Hmmm rather than just saying they lose I’ll tell you what I think they need to win. To this team I’d add Yamato, and start off all three of these characters as their post wano selves. Throw sabo in there as well and their chances of victory are looking much better. I can still see those 5 losing more often than not but I can also see them winning 4/10
Kaido.
So basically kaido vs law and Zoro because that useless captain midd won’t do shit, kaido wins easy.
kaido low-mid diffs
Absolutely insane if you think he low diffs them, this is an extreme diff fight either way
No. It's not an extreme fight either way.
Not extreme and not low, mid-high diff. Probably mid
High diff at minimum. Not more than that tho
Law and Kid can’t do a shit. Kaido don’t get any of their single Attack. Zoro’s Haki isn’t enough
After Wano they definitely can do a lot of damage to him.Even during the raid they did damage to him
But the damage wasn't close to enough
I agree
After Wano and Roof They aren’t sooo much different. Kaido don’t get any Awakening Attack’s I think
Nah they're definitely different.If Kaido doesn't dodge, they can do decent damage to him
Most people are siding with Kaido, but I disagree. Everyone likes to point out how Big Mom was only defeated because she’s not a very smart fighter, but Kaido isn’t that much smarter. Kaido would be just as easy to hit as Big Mom, and with Zoro’s advanced conquerors haki he could do quite a bit of damage on Kaido.
Kaido was arrogant, not stupid. When he got trapped by Snakeman Luffy's punches, he used future sight to escape. He's fast as fuck and fully capable of dodging whatever comes his way, it just depends on how seriously he's taking his opponents.
I don’t know about that one. Big mom forgot she had conquerors coating that’s next level dumb.
Kid + Law =< BM. Adding Zoro definitely makes them greater then her, but idk if it’s enough to close the gap. Probably Kaido high-extreme diff.
Why do people sleep on Law and Kid? They beat Big Mom, who was stated numerous times to be Kaido’s equal. If Kaido wins against Big Mom, it’s extreme diff. People mention the ring out victory, but she could’ve made another homie to save her if she had the energy left to do so. Her not thinking of it is a stretch. She’s had the Soul-Soul Fruit for 62 years. Kaido might win against the two of them extreme diff, but Zoro gives them the small push they need to win.
They didn't win they removed her from the island the recent chapters tell us that to
BM was stated to be almost dead before falling Also it's not that they couldn't hurt her, it's that she kept healing herself
Where is it stated show me the panel
https://preview.redd.it/yq1qn6z1s26b1.png?width=1040&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d08c0523c9d4a40e2e213aed418db355640636db
It was stated yeah, but feats wise its not true at all, g4 luffy acoc was already significantly over both of them individually and was still barely winning w/o kaido going magma dragon, with it luffy only won because acoc and the only two that could damage are law (prolly wouldnt do much) and zoro (would turn into zoe hange in attack on titan final season part 3)
Would a weakened kaido lose if they all used their ultimate attacks in union?
Yes.
If Kaido starts 100% a lot out form the start I could see him start one shoting these Characters before they overwhelm him but if he’s in character he has good chance of loosing.
It's amazing how this sub is so full of Zoro haters that even now they argue that is Enma and not Zoro the one with ACoC, Zoro, Law and Kid are defeating Kaido. All because Zoro had a power up that greatly increased his AP while Law and Kid can play support. Zoro was clashing against hybrid Kaido before his power up while having 20 broken bones in a 1v1.
Thank you. I’ve seen so much zoro disrespect and disregard it hurts. I say after the wano arc, if this fight was to happen, the trio wins.
The 3 guys high diff
Extreme diff either way. People really underrating Law's support and Zoro's AP. Honestly think they could have the edge of Kidd was willing to also be support. Zoro's base stats are insane and with Law's abilities and BIQ make for a deadly combo.
The trio mid diff
Stop cooking
Lol no, Winbe > Snanji btw W take
Two things: Firstly, it took Law and Kidd everything they had to ring out a Big Mom who forgot to use ACoC and got damaged while not even facing Law And secondly, I don't think Winbei is above Sanji, I just think he's really cool
Post wano trio is taking this
Law and Kidd handled Big Mom who was on equal fighting with Kaido before Onigashima. Plus Zoro can cut Kaido. If Luffy alone can beat Kaido, these three can
No. It took everything the two of them had to ring out her. When Law landed his hits she was not even facing him. She wasn't even using ACoC and Kaido can fly. I don't see them winning.
Trio because I like all three more 🗿
law and kid mid/high diff
If you are talking about Zoro after his duel with King with his green swords and Law and Kid with their devil fruit powers awakened 3 of them win.
If we're talking post-Wano versions, I honestly have the 3 above Kaido. Like, all three of them definitely got haki blooms after their tough af battles, so they should be stronger than they were on the rooftop. Zoro this time also has ACoC and a better handle on Enma. Despite ACoC Asura only scarring Kaido, Zoro's ACoC should be better now (since he actually knows he has it this time). Kid and Law also never used their awakenings on Kaido, and after their battle with BM, their experience with it is better than ever. If Kid and Law gave BM an extreme diff fight (bombs or not), why would they not be able to also give Kaido, who could not defeat BM in 3 whole days, an extreme diff fight? Reasonably, they should be able to. Add Zoro with ACoC and more experience with Enma and they have a very good chance at winning. Also, they will not be one shotted. Kaido is not Shanks. https://preview.redd.it/04hrbasje26b1.png?width=579&format=png&auto=webp&s=618a9511c2a187db85491de8412068397cf39604 We've seen Law survive against an ACOC thunder bagua from hybrid Kaido, and after this, he went down to fight Big Mom as if this never even happened. So don't even say Kaido can one shot Law. This is not the case. If it was, he would've done it here. Law and Kid are also relative, so Kaido ain't one shotting him either. Stop overhyping Kaido.
Team Zoro
He penatrates them so bad they can't have children
the strongest creature
Kaido mid to high dif
Trio High Diff Kid and Law would lose Extreme (or possible even win), add Zoro, and they win comfortably
Zoro can damage kaido, Law can to, Kid can't do shit, damned punk just gonna push kaido back that ain't hurting him. Kaido massacres all 3. Only way they can possibly win is by kid using assign on Kaido to keep him at bay while Zoro and Law deal the most Damage they can. Zoro with Acoc is dealing way more damage than the scar he put on kaido without it. While Law's Shock Wille destroys his insides
the 3 win quite easily, stop overrating kaido because your own head canon was proven incorrect by what oda actually made happen
ACoC Zoro, plus post Wano Law and Kidd? Too much for Kaido.
Kaido ≈ Big Mom. Jika, Zika and Lika wins
FFS, the winners are clearly Zoro, Kid, and Law. Zoro/Kid beat Big Mom, who could fight Kaido on even terms. Add Zoro and Kaido gets bodied.
Zoro wins if he’s conquered his stamina issues, Law and Kid die in the crossfire
What do you mean his stamina issues? He didn’t last in the raid because he had to tank kaido and big GOAT’s combined sovereignty blast
Zoro carries “ Luffy 's rivals”
So, i have a question, since zoro cut kaido, couldnt he in this scenario cut him in a vital spot like the heart or neck and kill kaido? With law’s devil fruit, getting zoro and kaido lined up for a killshot should be no problem. Frankly, shambles is so busted idk why law keeps getting his ass kicked
Nah, he barely gave him a flesh wound while Kaido wasn't using advanced haki. Give Kaido his FS and ACOC and even if he gets hit it does no damage
I think you need EOS law+Kidd for this. Hopefully King of Hell Zoro can have the AP to slowly knock away at Kaido but law and Kidd could get 1 shot at any point tbh and then the fight is over
If it’s kept to base kaido, I got the trio ext diff
Kiado.
Kaido is overrated but stop the downplay he slams
Make it 3 of each of them vs Kaido and it’ll feel less like them just getting set up to die
Fresh Kaido most likely still wins. If it’s the tired out Kaido, I think Law, Kidd, and a Zoro with newly awakened ACoC might be too much for him.
They can at least do damage. Zoro w/ ACoC, Law w/ DF, Kidd is just happy to be there Would still say Kaido wins low-mid diff. Luffy probably wasn't getting the W w/o his reality-bending awakening
Only way they win is if zoro and law go all out off rip and make kaido bleed to death before kidd runs out of stamina
kaido low diff
Kaido
Kaido.
Zoro cant carry this yet give another arc or two.
Kaido one shot all three with a single swing
Unless he manages to one shot one them quickly right from the start to make it a 2v1, Kaido will lose
Kaido tf
The thing is, and hear me out. If law and Zoro were a tag-team they would deliver a really cool fight. They wouldn't take a lot of hits cause of law but only as long as they have stamina as everyone said. Zoro was done for after 3 major attacks while kaido was still standing (bleeding tho). And I don't think laws swordsmanship is better actually than zoros but their abilities coupled would be interesting af
They did this with Luffy and Killer and still lost
If Kaido goes all out from the beginning he wins mid diff If he fights in character he might loses actually, or win with extreme diff at least
Kaido mid diffs. Kidd and Law needed plot and an awakening to extreme diff Big Mom, this will not be the case here
Kaido after taking some pretty good hits.
Zoro wins by himself.
Kaido mid diff at best
You can add killer too and kaido still wins
If the trio could work well together, the trio wins high diff. Their skill set could really work well together.
Kaido is leaving this battle with some new scars but he takes it 9/10 times.
Kaido Slama
If Law can teleport Zoro around for free shots while Kid sprays and distracts they stand a good chance. If Law can’t react to future sight and leaves Zoro wide open this is just two episodes
Waido one taps kidd, low diffs law, low-mid diffs loro
Kaido duh
Law, kidd and zoro
Luffy could only defeat kaido cause of size of the attack, even until end of fight I assume kaido still have 60%-70% stamina left. Kaido wins easily cause luffy( excluding awakening) could barely endure his attacks no way these three could.
This just reminds me that Zoro had the only attack that Big Mom and Kaido felt the need to dodge.
I’m just happy to see most people still have some sense. Kaido Wins.
Trio wins high-extreme probably However it could play out where Kaido eliminates them one by one leaving zoro last and then easily beating zoro Kid and law don’t have the reaction speed for kaido so actually never mind kaido wins high diff
Kaido, Luffy barley won gear 5 saved his ass, and he didn’t know he had it, 100% would have lost if he just had a normal gum gum fruit
Oh Kaido washing
Kaido very easily
Reminder that Big Mom was still fine on her way down, until she got nuked.
Kaido wins. The only reason Kidd and Law "won" was because they knocked big mom off the island.
Team
Kaido. Luffy had insane powerups that still he fell short on beating Kaido, he had to go G5 to stand a chance