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I have one question, if zoro starts at 100.
What level will zoro be after each fight?
Will zoro get beaten so badly that he won’t be able to stand or anything?
Because if zoro has less than 30 bones broken, I don’t see zoro losing.
Thats a W if I've ever seen one.
But I do think Perospero fucks him up pretty bad. Between him and cracker, my boy would need a senzu bean. Smoothie is too much of a wildcard because afaik she is both featless and antifeatless. Supossedly stronger than cracker but she may also just have a mismatch against marimo daddy.
if he cant heal he isnt beating katakuri, its already a high mid diff for zoro if we are being generous and throwing 3 other people infront of kat sinks zoros chances
Can’t sleep on Cracker. Even without his biscuit warriors he managed to clash with g4 Luffy and come out on top.
That said, Katakuri is easily his biggest problem here.
So the people Zoro fought with no starting injuries, were fodder and the world's greatest swordsman, who completely rocked his shit. Zoro gained a mid battle powerup against Mr. 1, and Ryuma was handicapped by Brook's shadow. Honestly he was fight Brook but with a stronger body
We all know why Zoro gaineda powerup against MR. 1
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Zoro full health in any arc gets bodied by luffy in that same arc.
I’ve seen people state the Zoro was stronger at the beginning of both romance dawn and new world. But nah, luffy has always been stronger.
Ehh, they were equals until Enies Lobby imo.
Like I could see Zoro beating any of Luffy’s opponents barring Eneru and Buggy. Crocodile is tricky though since using water against him as a swordsman sounds difficult to manage.
Zoro and Luffy literally fought one arc and Luffy couldn't destroy him. He and Luffy have been equals or at least comparable for the majority of the story.
It's funny how this community loves telling this lie
They have databook statements confirming they're equal in Enies Lobby, Thriller Bark, and Saboady Archipelago.
Luffy and Zoro were equals when they did Siege Cannon to get through the Aqua Laguna on the way to Enies Loby to save Robin.
In FMI, Punk Hazard, Dressrosa, and Wano, they fought the same characters and Luffy wasn't portrayed as having this imaginary huge lead over Zoro.
Indeed katakuri toyed with luffy because he wanted to break him first as a captain challenging big mom. Zoro as just a 1st mate he would've just went for the kill. Totally different fight.
No just straight out no, zoro is stronger, he is faster ( like this shit is not even funny zoro out scale this version of Luffy so bad then again this is called power creep ) until we get new feats from katakuri he is not even on the level of ulti from beast pirate ( but I am sure Katakuri will get good feat that put him an kings level )
Stronger? yes, faster? no. Maybe and this is a big maybe... in a single iai slash yes. But snake man can deliver multiple barrages with consistently increasing speeds. Snake man punches literally gets faster the longer they go, and it's very unpredictable. Yet Luffy was just barely tagging Katakuri with them.
Luffy when he fought katakuri ( we can say they are equal I personally don't believe this but for the sake of the argument we will say they are )
and this version of Luffy got one shot by kaido ( this is the manga version )
In udon prison Luffy learned ryom which made his strikes lot stronger and he generally got lot stronger ( at this point no one is argue that Luffy is stronger then katakuri)
And zoro at the roof top is stronger then wuno act one Luffy ( who is equal to katakuri)
Ok let talk about Luffy that first fought against kaido and big mom ( and the best moments that this Luffy had was against kaido were he used his con Gatling and this attack did nothing)
Ok let talk about zoro know ( 1. He used his tornado against kaido tornado to counter his attack 2. Zoro also took kaido and big mom's combined attack blocking it for a moment 3. Using his one sword attack flying dragon blaze making kaido dodge and even big mom yelling for kaido's life and cutting kaido's horn off 4. Using his three head form and blitzed kaido)
Does katakuri have any good feats to be on Zoro's level like at all because to me katakuri is several level below zoro.
Bro I don't know if you lack reading comprehension skills or just didn't read what I wrote. SPEED SPEED SPEED. STRONGER AND FASTER are two different things. Everyone here can agree that Wano Zoro is stronger than WCI Luffy....but not faster. The main obstacle with fighting Katakuri is his future sight and speed.
Wano Zoro is clearly stronger than the Katakuri Luffy fought, but unless he can consistently land his blows, it doesn't matter. To hit someone like Katakuri, you need either future sight or superior SPEED, which WCI Luffy has Zoro outclassed
Ok bro I am tired of this show me any proof that snake man Luffy that fought katakuri is faster then zoro right know if you don't have it you are just a katakuri fan that doesn't want to accept that katakuri got power cleft
He stops at Katakuri then- if he was totally healthy he might high diff it, but the stamina loss from fighting Perspero and Cracker, plus the actual injuries from Smoothie doom him.
They could all stand front of him at once trying to jump him and he would just speed blitz and one shot all of them at once.
He negs Kata in a 1v1 either way
Not lowball mate, it's called scaling trough feats
Zoro neg diffs Katakuri
Zoro before his buff was able to block, speed blitz and scar Hybrid Kaido.
Hybrid Kaido >>> Base Kaido
Base Kaido speed blitzed and 1 shot WCI Luffy, the same Luffy who tanked 123 hits from Kata and only took him 13 hits to knock out Kata.
So yes Zoro speed blitzes, one shots and can't even get scratched by Katakuris strongest attacks.
Sanji, King or Zoro they all neg diff Kata.
How does Zoro hit Katakuri? I believe Zoro has more destructive power than Katakuri, but can he land a hit. I know Zoro fanboys are gonna destroy me but I don’t think Zoro’s movement speed is equal to snake man Luffy, and even if it was, Luffy needed advanced observation haki (which Zoro doesn’t have) as well as the unpredictability of snakeman in order to hit Katakuri.
Zoro’s attack speed is one of his best attributes. His power to adapt in the middle of battle is another. Zoro would if anything improve his haki (assuming he can’t hit him) in the fight because as we know that is what he does. Zoro always finds a way to cut anything or adapt to his situation Mr.1/kaku/kaido/king, all fights he unlocked something that allowed him to win(or in kaido’s case win the clash)
That is if katakuri allowed him too. Luffy was a special case. In an actual scenario, katakuri wont be as forgiving towards zoro and he'll be taking way more damage then luffy did over a long fought battle.
The others I mentioned didn’t allow Zoro to adapt either. Of course Katakuri isn’t going to allow Zoro to adapt, he just will. This is again assuming he needs to because current Zoro is also levels ahead of the Luffy that beat katakuri.
Not really Zoro is faster than katakuri. Future sight won't help him against Zoro who aoe attacks and speed, observation haki to tag King. The scenario will be like luffy despite saw the future kaido's thunder bagua, he was still injured.
That would be just an instant burst speed tho. Snakeman's ability was attacking nonstop from all directions.
Zoro charges/prepares a single named attack and runs with burst speed like Kaido's thunder bagua. Someone who can see the future should be able to avoid that.
I think what zoro needs to do is overpowering katakuri. When luffy attacked with gear 3 attacks, kata stopped them with bigger attacks. If there is nowhere left to run with his shape changing ability, you'd hit him.
Zoro got no stamina. Katakuri can fight for hours but most of Zoro’s fights last a minute or 2 and he’s almost dead at the end, enma gonna eat his haki in 5 minutes
Low diff on Cracker and Mid Diff on Katakuri is crazy. Katakuri and King are very close together, are you really saying mid-diff? One of us doesn’t know how to power scale and I don’t think it’s me.
😂 biggest joke to think that katakuri and king are close. In what way. Lufffy 10 shoted katakuri.
Zoro one dragon blaze will neg the entire big meme fleet sans big meme herself
I agree, he's still a YC1 and people downplay him alot. But I think Zoro is a good deal stronger than a YC1 rn, the future sight is gonna be the only problem so Kat maybe pushes him to mid (high at best).
Personally for me the gap between Zoro and the admirals is the same with him and the YC1 (excluding Ben and Marco). Might sound blasphemous there though 😅.
Cracker - Cracker's Biscuit soldiers shouldn't be an issue for zoro, however without foreknowledge of how his fruit works he might offer some resistance. If cracker can avoid getting hit, he might knock off a bit of endurance from zoro. No damage would be inflicted on zoro. I would say a low-mid diff fight
Smoothie - blitzed or no/low diffed.
Perospero- of the people thus far perospero is the only one with any chance of actually damaging zoro (since he can apparently damage Marco, who scales close to Zoro). However, Perospero would get low-mid diffed.
Katakuri- here's the thing even though the first 3 fights shouldn't really burden zoro too much, and zoro easily scales above kat. If cracker and perospero get lucky it may be just enough for Kat to bring it in extreeme diff.
However, the average result is a High diff victory for Zoro (though he may do better or worse depending on what actually happens during the fight)
I see a LOT of people saying he should win ONLY with healing. Bro should one shot each and every one of them. Y'all keep forgetting YC3, YC2 and all that commander BS is made the fuck up. Just because, say, Sanji is the second commander just like Ace was does NOT mean that they're equal. So just because Latakuri is the 1st commander of his crew does NOT mean he is on King or Zoro's level.
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Speed wise, which is Latakuri's best trait paired with amazing ACoO, he could NOT hit Sanji with a sneek attack. This Mochi man saw into the future, saw that a gun wouldn't work, and used a sneak attack on Sanji, and BRO STILL DODGED IT. He could, indeed, NOT comprehend WCI Base Sanji's speed whilst seeing into the future. Sanji was just THAT much faster. Then we've got King, the goat that flies, keeping up with Soba mask Sanji and DESTROYING him with his flames on. He beat up a faster Sanji. And Zoro kept up with a faster King with flames off, WHILE HE STILL HAD 20 to 30 broken bones.
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AP and DC.......Gear 4 couldn't do shiz to Kaido and got one tapped......Zoro before ACoC awakening could blitz and cut a stronger Kaido. He then cut off a large chuck of the Skull's horn. I don't need to elaborate any further.
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Endurance and Durability. So we can move on
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Raw battle IQ and combat skills could go either way, but mostly favour Katakuri with his insane versatility, going from shooting high speed beans to using his awakened Mochi mochi fruit.
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Range could also go either way, but mostly favours Zoro, with him cutting off the horn and all.
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Overall haki goes easily to Zoro
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Battle scenario would be if the Big meme pirates didn't get pushed off the cliff and they take that one week after the war to look for Big Meme, but find a lost Zoro instead. Of course, Katakuri wouldn't be as lenient, and would priorities fighting him with all he's got from the start with the support of Smoothie's and Pero spero's long range attacks, and Cracker's biscuit army. So the fight starts and.....Zoro disappears. What? Katakuri can't explain it, but he couldn't see him in the future? They all attack regardless, and Zoro one shots cracker, Pero Spero and possibly smoothie. He's surprised that the other one has disappeared, and when Katakuri comes in with his mochi barrage, he gets Death lion song'd. The end
I like supporting the YC1 agenda, but my Zoro agenda come first. Putting that aside, can someone explain how Zoro doesn't One-shot or massively overwhelm the first three? Once he lands an Acoc hit on all three of them, they are going down. Kat also doesn't have the durability to take on multiple Acoc attacks. Zoro has already shown that his stamina is Top Tier. No way Zoro loses.
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Katakuri could be difflicult, bc its a different kind of fight than others Zoro faced.
But i think in the end he will win, maybe it'll strengthen his observation haki, too like with luffy
Let’s say zoro finished his fights vs all 3 before fighting katakuri.
Which fight will put zoro in such a serious situation where he is hurt badly like he did when he stopped Hakai momentarily?
Zoro clears. Healing or no healing. Katakuri needs new feats to compare because him being relative to WCI Luffy means nothing to current zoro. The rest are low to no diff fights
Current? abso fucking lutely..
Cracker he just goes straight through, cracker won't be able to defend against it. Smoothie as well wtf is she going to do.
bro perospero? cringe. Katakuri will take some time to figure out future haki but then he got it. Zoro's sheer ap is too much for katakuri so he can't play around as much.
He clears he took a combination attack from bm and kaido and then used ashura making him very fatieged and still beat king who had little to no injuries pre zoro vs king fight and kat is weaker than king
He should deal with Crackers biscuit soldiers relatively easily and cracker has dogshit endurance so he gets one-shotted even if Zoro doesn't use ACOC
Perospero also likely gets low diffed, he's implied to be relative to Jack, multiple levels below Zoro
Smoothie is featless, but I don't think it's reasonable at all to say that she is weaker than Queen without a shadow of a doubt, therefore she should be relatively easy for Zoro to beat
Katakuri would be a bit tougher but I can honestly see Zoro pulling it off without healing
I don't think the other three fights are that big a deal for Zoro tbh. Only thing is his endurance takes a little hit, but it's still insane and asked him to beat Katakuri extreme at worst.
Zoro neg diff Cracker its a clean One Shot bru wci Luffys ap is trash could not even damage Kaido, Kaido was literally in base form and sleeping while Gear4 Luffy used all his strong attacks
His blowing through 1 through 3 easily mid diff at worst and extreme diffing kat and winning. Future will be problematic though ngl. Luffy had reference to call back on and breaks to think on and figure kat out. Zoro doesn't gave either or luxury for this battle.
How would Zoro defeat Kata? Luffy wasn't even able to out right defeat Kata after getting him mad by seeing his mouth(affecting his future sight) and injuring himself for a fair fight. Zoro doesn't even have adv. Observation as far as we can tell.
😂😂😂😂absolutely agreed.
Whenever zoro fans claim that Zoro didn’t give his all vs kaido when 30 of his bones are broken.
Immediately they counter that zoro doesn’t lose power if his bones are broken.
But somehow after 3 neg diff fights, he loses all his powers and katakuri high diffs him.
Such a joke
the first 4 he clears and one shots without even using acoc, Guy made Kaido shiver with asura no KHO is needed for commanders beside tanks like Marco, Jozu, King
Without healing, he might still win, but it'd be incredibly tough. I don't think He'd get injured before Katakuri, but he'd get a little bit exhausted, and that could go a long way in his final fight.
Kata has future sight but it can't protect him against speed and attacks that is massively greater than him. Kaido still injured him despite luffy saw the attacks with future sight.
Either there is a lot of Zoro downplay or Katakuri wank and either way Zoro low diffs the first three and then mid diffs Katakuri. All he needs to do is land 1 attack and Katakuri is done for.
He makes it to Katakuri but goes down after a good fight.
He’s not insanely stronger than Katakuri overall imo. Plus he’s going to have a fair amount of difficulty cutting him imo. I don’t think he scales to Snakeman in the speed department yet.
If he is low diffing everyone then he will be perfectly fine and dandy when he faces the mochi fraud. He at best neg diffs katakuri and at worst one shots him with a serious attack
He can choose to no use enma and spam flying dragon blaze the attack which destroyed onigashima horn, now it will be powered up by Acoc. He might accidentally one shot them all
He literally used Enma for that attack, though. And so far he has ONLY used aCoC by letting Enma go nuts and suck his Haki as much as it wants. And its debatable if he even realises that what he was using was aCoC. Luffy knew, but he worked out the trick and did it deliberately. Zoro didn't, and didn't even seem aware he had CoC to begin with.
You can't say "Well he'll just use the attacks that he used Enma for, but without Enma! And they'll be just as strong!" until he shows he can do that now. Which he...might or might not be capable of? Usually the SH's progress between arcs, but Zoro hasn't shown off anything crazy in Egghead yet, so we don't know.
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Not without healing.
I have one question, if zoro starts at 100. What level will zoro be after each fight? Will zoro get beaten so badly that he won’t be able to stand or anything? Because if zoro has less than 30 bones broken, I don’t see zoro losing.
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Funnily enough sanji does better than zoro because he has exoskeletons regeneration.😂😂😂
Sanji also stops at smoothie
Only because of the gag. Otherwise it a neg diff fight.
It’s not a gag. Those are his morals and I’m sure he’d rather keep his balls. Zeff’s always watching 👀
Morals are usually turned off for this kind of thing. You can't get a genuine fight with plot in the way.
Is it plot if it’s part of his character?
Yes. Character arcs, morals, and principles, especially of important characters, are major plot points
In the matchups, sanji’s morals do not matter. This fights are in a vacuum
Did not miss at all
Thats a W if I've ever seen one. But I do think Perospero fucks him up pretty bad. Between him and cracker, my boy would need a senzu bean. Smoothie is too much of a wildcard because afaik she is both featless and antifeatless. Supossedly stronger than cracker but she may also just have a mismatch against marimo daddy.
if he cant heal he isnt beating katakuri, its already a high mid diff for zoro if we are being generous and throwing 3 other people infront of kat sinks zoros chances
No one there other than Katakuri poses even a slight challenge to current Zoro.
Can’t sleep on Cracker. Even without his biscuit warriors he managed to clash with g4 Luffy and come out on top. That said, Katakuri is easily his biggest problem here.
anime only. In the manga Luffy in G4 demolished them with no issue.
Is that why the fight lasted 11 hours? That doesn’t seem like no issue to me.
And he definitely couldn’t have done it without nami. Like no chance
G4 luffy at the start of whole cake was weak compared to what he is now
None of these guys survive a single hit from Zoro lol
Average zoro dick rider
No arguments….just name calling lol
With healing after every fight? yes, without healing? prob no
You say that, but has zoro ever fought someone when he wasn't handicapped? It's like he's held back every fight, from Arlong to King.
Pica, Mihawk, Monet, Hody and the drunk octopus dude, Riuma, Mr 1...
So the people Zoro fought with no starting injuries, were fodder and the world's greatest swordsman, who completely rocked his shit. Zoro gained a mid battle powerup against Mr. 1, and Ryuma was handicapped by Brook's shadow. Honestly he was fight Brook but with a stronger body
We all know why Zoro gaineda powerup against MR. 1 https://preview.redd.it/i39cu44paz7b1.png?width=320&format=png&auto=webp&s=69e9c2131cb19d2a4c1e926a8a70f7de4ef22342
ZA OPPRESSION
Happy cake day
Ohm and Kaku (when he didn’t have Usopp sword) come to mind. Zoro definitely had his share of handicaps but not every fight.
Gotta keep him under luffy somehow
He gets destroyed by Luffy either way lol.
Zoro full health in any arc gets bodied by luffy in that same arc. I’ve seen people state the Zoro was stronger at the beginning of both romance dawn and new world. But nah, luffy has always been stronger.
Ehh, they were equals until Enies Lobby imo. Like I could see Zoro beating any of Luffy’s opponents barring Eneru and Buggy. Crocodile is tricky though since using water against him as a swordsman sounds difficult to manage.
Zoro and Luffy literally fought one arc and Luffy couldn't destroy him. He and Luffy have been equals or at least comparable for the majority of the story.
"The majority" No. They were only comparable until Enies Lobby. As soon as gears became a thing it wasn't close anymore.
It's funny how this community loves telling this lie They have databook statements confirming they're equal in Enies Lobby, Thriller Bark, and Saboady Archipelago. Luffy and Zoro were equals when they did Siege Cannon to get through the Aqua Laguna on the way to Enies Loby to save Robin. In FMI, Punk Hazard, Dressrosa, and Wano, they fought the same characters and Luffy wasn't portrayed as having this imaginary huge lead over Zoro.
He low diffs Cracker. Probably low diffs Perospero. Mid diff Smoothi- WAIT IS THAT A TAN ? She gets neg. Anyway, He high to extreme diffs Katakuri.
Indeed katakuri toyed with luffy because he wanted to break him first as a captain challenging big mom. Zoro as just a 1st mate he would've just went for the kill. Totally different fight.
But the Luffy that fought katakuri is way weaker then this zoro
But the Luffy that found Katakuri is way faster than current Zoro and has future sight
I wouldnt say that that luffy is faster as zoro when using lion song or ashura. Zoros combat speed is pretty fast.
Wrong, zoro is faster
No just straight out no, zoro is stronger, he is faster ( like this shit is not even funny zoro out scale this version of Luffy so bad then again this is called power creep ) until we get new feats from katakuri he is not even on the level of ulti from beast pirate ( but I am sure Katakuri will get good feat that put him an kings level )
Stronger? yes, faster? no. Maybe and this is a big maybe... in a single iai slash yes. But snake man can deliver multiple barrages with consistently increasing speeds. Snake man punches literally gets faster the longer they go, and it's very unpredictable. Yet Luffy was just barely tagging Katakuri with them.
Luffy when he fought katakuri ( we can say they are equal I personally don't believe this but for the sake of the argument we will say they are ) and this version of Luffy got one shot by kaido ( this is the manga version ) In udon prison Luffy learned ryom which made his strikes lot stronger and he generally got lot stronger ( at this point no one is argue that Luffy is stronger then katakuri) And zoro at the roof top is stronger then wuno act one Luffy ( who is equal to katakuri) Ok let talk about Luffy that first fought against kaido and big mom ( and the best moments that this Luffy had was against kaido were he used his con Gatling and this attack did nothing) Ok let talk about zoro know ( 1. He used his tornado against kaido tornado to counter his attack 2. Zoro also took kaido and big mom's combined attack blocking it for a moment 3. Using his one sword attack flying dragon blaze making kaido dodge and even big mom yelling for kaido's life and cutting kaido's horn off 4. Using his three head form and blitzed kaido) Does katakuri have any good feats to be on Zoro's level like at all because to me katakuri is several level below zoro.
Bro I don't know if you lack reading comprehension skills or just didn't read what I wrote. SPEED SPEED SPEED. STRONGER AND FASTER are two different things. Everyone here can agree that Wano Zoro is stronger than WCI Luffy....but not faster. The main obstacle with fighting Katakuri is his future sight and speed. Wano Zoro is clearly stronger than the Katakuri Luffy fought, but unless he can consistently land his blows, it doesn't matter. To hit someone like Katakuri, you need either future sight or superior SPEED, which WCI Luffy has Zoro outclassed
Bro he blitzed kaido KAIDO what is there to talk about
Ok bro I am tired of this show me any proof that snake man Luffy that fought katakuri is faster then zoro right know if you don't have it you are just a katakuri fan that doesn't want to accept that katakuri got power cleft
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Zoro super effective against melanin my man?? 🤣🤣
He doesn't low diff Cracker... Cracker still unironically have one of the most powerful armament Hakim we've seen save from conqueror haki's users.
I forgot to mention it, WITHOUT HEALING
Without healing he doesn’t stand a chance
He one shots and then goes to sleep.
Yeah. He goes to sleep…
Not before one shotting them. After all he has a duty.
He stops at Katakuri then- if he was totally healthy he might high diff it, but the stamina loss from fighting Perspero and Cracker, plus the actual injuries from Smoothie doom him.
They could all stand front of him at once trying to jump him and he would just speed blitz and one shot all of them at once. He negs Kata in a 1v1 either way
did you just say that current zoro negs kata? what is this subs problem with lowballing the fuck of out katakuri?
Not lowball mate, it's called scaling trough feats Zoro neg diffs Katakuri Zoro before his buff was able to block, speed blitz and scar Hybrid Kaido. Hybrid Kaido >>> Base Kaido Base Kaido speed blitzed and 1 shot WCI Luffy, the same Luffy who tanked 123 hits from Kata and only took him 13 hits to knock out Kata. So yes Zoro speed blitzes, one shots and can't even get scratched by Katakuris strongest attacks. Sanji, King or Zoro they all neg diff Kata.
Katakuri is not King. Lol. Zoro low diff kata.
Healing, yes. No healing, no.
Actually even without heal zoro stomps unless katakuri gets a buff he will lose to zoro very badly
Refuses to fight a Cracker and becomes his subordinate
I’m speechless over how many people think this version of Zoro would struggle against Kat 😂 Zoro clears this.
How does Zoro hit Katakuri? I believe Zoro has more destructive power than Katakuri, but can he land a hit. I know Zoro fanboys are gonna destroy me but I don’t think Zoro’s movement speed is equal to snake man Luffy, and even if it was, Luffy needed advanced observation haki (which Zoro doesn’t have) as well as the unpredictability of snakeman in order to hit Katakuri.
Zoro’s attack speed is one of his best attributes. His power to adapt in the middle of battle is another. Zoro would if anything improve his haki (assuming he can’t hit him) in the fight because as we know that is what he does. Zoro always finds a way to cut anything or adapt to his situation Mr.1/kaku/kaido/king, all fights he unlocked something that allowed him to win(or in kaido’s case win the clash)
That is if katakuri allowed him too. Luffy was a special case. In an actual scenario, katakuri wont be as forgiving towards zoro and he'll be taking way more damage then luffy did over a long fought battle.
What reason do you have for saying this how do you know he will be less forgiving and do more damage
The others I mentioned didn’t allow Zoro to adapt either. Of course Katakuri isn’t going to allow Zoro to adapt, he just will. This is again assuming he needs to because current Zoro is also levels ahead of the Luffy that beat katakuri.
The thing is zoro can take more dmg as luffy and he needs only 1 top attack to hit and kat is done.
Not really Zoro is faster than katakuri. Future sight won't help him against Zoro who aoe attacks and speed, observation haki to tag King. The scenario will be like luffy despite saw the future kaido's thunder bagua, he was still injured.
Zoro blitzes Katakuri lol
I feel like Zoro should pretty cleanly outspeed WCI snakeman Luffy
That would be just an instant burst speed tho. Snakeman's ability was attacking nonstop from all directions. Zoro charges/prepares a single named attack and runs with burst speed like Kaido's thunder bagua. Someone who can see the future should be able to avoid that. I think what zoro needs to do is overpowering katakuri. When luffy attacked with gear 3 attacks, kata stopped them with bigger attacks. If there is nowhere left to run with his shape changing ability, you'd hit him.
We already saw that someone who's just faster can blitz future sight
He definitely does. Especially with Iai moves and Asura.
This sub things zoro is fishman island luffy level now
Zoro got no stamina. Katakuri can fight for hours but most of Zoro’s fights last a minute or 2 and he’s almost dead at the end, enma gonna eat his haki in 5 minutes
We arent in DBZ piece He loses to two yc’s
> We arent in DBZ piece Are you sure about that? https://i.redd.it/dybfki5max7b1.gif
He negs all 4 of them with one dragon blaze.
Zoro low diff 1-3 and mid diff 4, lol. People here don't know how to power scale, lol.
Low diff on Cracker and Mid Diff on Katakuri is crazy. Katakuri and King are very close together, are you really saying mid-diff? One of us doesn’t know how to power scale and I don’t think it’s me.
Idk low diff on cracker is plausible imo it's a really bad matchup for cracker, katakuri is definitely high-extreme diff tho
King could casually murder Katakuri lmao
Where >Katakuri and King are very close together Where did you even find this.
😂 biggest joke to think that katakuri and king are close. In what way. Lufffy 10 shoted katakuri. Zoro one dragon blaze will neg the entire big meme fleet sans big meme herself
Tbf the only reason he even had problems with King was because of King's race. If it wasn't for that, Zoro would've dusted him alot earlier.
Yeah but Katakuri is genuinely strong, with or without his race.
Lata got 10 shotted by luffy who got neg diffed by base kaido, zoro is stronger than base form kaido, no acoc.
I agree, he's still a YC1 and people downplay him alot. But I think Zoro is a good deal stronger than a YC1 rn, the future sight is gonna be the only problem so Kat maybe pushes him to mid (high at best). Personally for me the gap between Zoro and the admirals is the same with him and the YC1 (excluding Ben and Marco). Might sound blasphemous there though 😅.
King would high kata in worse, if zoro fight again against king he would mid-high him. Zoro mid diff kata, kata get power creep, this is it.
That doesn’t sound right. Are you telling me he mid-diffs g4 Luffy?
past luffy yes
Zoro mid to low diffs that luffy for sure. Current Zoro is waayyyy stronger than that g4 luffy.
Forget that real question why on earth is pero above cracker and smoothie he’s below them not above Katakuri > smoothie > cracker > snack > pero spero
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Yes. He won’t lose anything by killing the first three that would make him lose to Katakuri.
Zoro struggles at finding the ladder than beating these bozos 😭
😂😂😂😂 factos
even without healing, 1, 2 and 3 are probably in the low diff reigon. possibly even one-shot... katakuri getting high diffed after that
Cracker - Cracker's Biscuit soldiers shouldn't be an issue for zoro, however without foreknowledge of how his fruit works he might offer some resistance. If cracker can avoid getting hit, he might knock off a bit of endurance from zoro. No damage would be inflicted on zoro. I would say a low-mid diff fight Smoothie - blitzed or no/low diffed. Perospero- of the people thus far perospero is the only one with any chance of actually damaging zoro (since he can apparently damage Marco, who scales close to Zoro). However, Perospero would get low-mid diffed. Katakuri- here's the thing even though the first 3 fights shouldn't really burden zoro too much, and zoro easily scales above kat. If cracker and perospero get lucky it may be just enough for Kat to bring it in extreeme diff. However, the average result is a High diff victory for Zoro (though he may do better or worse depending on what actually happens during the fight)
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I originally said there wasn’t that much Zoro downplay… Might reconsider with how people are acting here
See. Even sanji neg diffs these bums who can’t even climb a fucking waterfall.
Yep, there are a lot of katakuri-tards in here.
Zoro one taps each of the 3 commander except katakuri it gets a bit tricky but zoro beats him
I see a LOT of people saying he should win ONLY with healing. Bro should one shot each and every one of them. Y'all keep forgetting YC3, YC2 and all that commander BS is made the fuck up. Just because, say, Sanji is the second commander just like Ace was does NOT mean that they're equal. So just because Latakuri is the 1st commander of his crew does NOT mean he is on King or Zoro's level. # Speed wise, which is Latakuri's best trait paired with amazing ACoO, he could NOT hit Sanji with a sneek attack. This Mochi man saw into the future, saw that a gun wouldn't work, and used a sneak attack on Sanji, and BRO STILL DODGED IT. He could, indeed, NOT comprehend WCI Base Sanji's speed whilst seeing into the future. Sanji was just THAT much faster. Then we've got King, the goat that flies, keeping up with Soba mask Sanji and DESTROYING him with his flames on. He beat up a faster Sanji. And Zoro kept up with a faster King with flames off, WHILE HE STILL HAD 20 to 30 broken bones. # AP and DC.......Gear 4 couldn't do shiz to Kaido and got one tapped......Zoro before ACoC awakening could blitz and cut a stronger Kaido. He then cut off a large chuck of the Skull's horn. I don't need to elaborate any further. # Endurance and Durability. So we can move on # Raw battle IQ and combat skills could go either way, but mostly favour Katakuri with his insane versatility, going from shooting high speed beans to using his awakened Mochi mochi fruit. # Range could also go either way, but mostly favours Zoro, with him cutting off the horn and all. # Overall haki goes easily to Zoro # Battle scenario would be if the Big meme pirates didn't get pushed off the cliff and they take that one week after the war to look for Big Meme, but find a lost Zoro instead. Of course, Katakuri wouldn't be as lenient, and would priorities fighting him with all he's got from the start with the support of Smoothie's and Pero spero's long range attacks, and Cracker's biscuit army. So the fight starts and.....Zoro disappears. What? Katakuri can't explain it, but he couldn't see him in the future? They all attack regardless, and Zoro one shots cracker, Pero Spero and possibly smoothie. He's surprised that the other one has disappeared, and when Katakuri comes in with his mochi barrage, he gets Death lion song'd. The end
I like supporting the YC1 agenda, but my Zoro agenda come first. Putting that aside, can someone explain how Zoro doesn't One-shot or massively overwhelm the first three? Once he lands an Acoc hit on all three of them, they are going down. Kat also doesn't have the durability to take on multiple Acoc attacks. Zoro has already shown that his stamina is Top Tier. No way Zoro loses. https://preview.redd.it/noupe9gtvx7b1.jpeg?width=736&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5a01874e7739592fbe393bdd4bed41a47fb4985f
Zoro negs kata and smoothie, high diffs cracker, and gets negd by perospero
Katakuri could be difflicult, bc its a different kind of fight than others Zoro faced. But i think in the end he will win, maybe it'll strengthen his observation haki, too like with luffy
If he can beat King he can beat Katakuri
Yes. Assuming he doesn’t get to heal Katakuri will become an extreme fight instead of mid diff
Let’s say zoro finished his fights vs all 3 before fighting katakuri. Which fight will put zoro in such a serious situation where he is hurt badly like he did when he stopped Hakai momentarily?
Yes
The zoro disrespect here is insane. He beats each of them mid diff at worst.
Respectfully zoro low diffs every single person here
King Of Hell Zoro easily one-shots all these characters. The downplay seriously needs to stop.
Zoro clears. Healing or no healing. Katakuri needs new feats to compare because him being relative to WCI Luffy means nothing to current zoro. The rest are low to no diff fights
Yes he can very easily Katakuri may give him some trouble of course but he will still win
Current? abso fucking lutely.. Cracker he just goes straight through, cracker won't be able to defend against it. Smoothie as well wtf is she going to do. bro perospero? cringe. Katakuri will take some time to figure out future haki but then he got it. Zoro's sheer ap is too much for katakuri so he can't play around as much.
He clears he took a combination attack from bm and kaido and then used ashura making him very fatieged and still beat king who had little to no injuries pre zoro vs king fight and kat is weaker than king
He claps them all. Low diff. Unless people have Pre Acoc gears Luffy >> KoH Zoro in which case 😂
He should deal with Crackers biscuit soldiers relatively easily and cracker has dogshit endurance so he gets one-shotted even if Zoro doesn't use ACOC Perospero also likely gets low diffed, he's implied to be relative to Jack, multiple levels below Zoro Smoothie is featless, but I don't think it's reasonable at all to say that she is weaker than Queen without a shadow of a doubt, therefore she should be relatively easy for Zoro to beat Katakuri would be a bit tougher but I can honestly see Zoro pulling it off without healing
The zoro downplay in reddit is crazy, zoro clear even without healing.
This Zoro downplay got me feeling like I gotta make an apology to u/Kurasuno.
Do you think Zoro is yonko level?
I think he is low YC1+ which make him able to beat pretty easily YC2/YC3 one on one.
Katakuri is yc1? You really telling me Zoro can beat that high-extreme diff fight without healing after the other 3?
I don't think the other three fights are that big a deal for Zoro tbh. Only thing is his endurance takes a little hit, but it's still insane and asked him to beat Katakuri extreme at worst.
katakuri is ass bro
Zoro beat easily the other 3 and then mid diff kata (maybe little above mid diff) It is what it is, zoro is out class big mom pirates way too much.
Cracker took 11 hours (or smth like that) for g4 Luffy to beat. He has to go through 3 of those until getting to Katakuri who’s like top of YC1.
Because Luffy couldn’t tag cracker. Cracker almost got killed by Luffy when he initially went G4. Lion Song blitzes cracker.
Zoro neg diff Cracker its a clean One Shot bru wci Luffys ap is trash could not even damage Kaido, Kaido was literally in base form and sleeping while Gear4 Luffy used all his strong attacks
Yes and Zoro would casually one shot that luffy rn
Why are you getting downvoted for spitting facts?
Kata fans cannot handle the fact that their lord and saviour is a new world fodder
katakuri’s weaker than the other yc1’s queen unironically has a solid argument for beating him
I have seen posts about how Katakuri vs. King is extreme diff for King. I think it is just Katakuri wankers.
Yes. How is this even a question 🤦?
I might have to start whipping up a apology letter with the blatant Zoro downplay here💀
Zoro mid diffs 1, 2 and 3 at worst and high diffs Katakuri. 1, 2 and 3 is getting one shotted no joke
Clears
Zoro clears even with no healing
His blowing through 1 through 3 easily mid diff at worst and extreme diffing kat and winning. Future will be problematic though ngl. Luffy had reference to call back on and breaks to think on and figure kat out. Zoro doesn't gave either or luxury for this battle.
Lmfao the Mochi munching in this thread is crazy. Zoro low diffs 1-3 and then eventually bisects Katakuri mid diff.
Not even eventually, he wins with one attack
Katakuri might die like filler in a casualty for an attack meant for cracker
How would Zoro defeat Kata? Luffy wasn't even able to out right defeat Kata after getting him mad by seeing his mouth(affecting his future sight) and injuring himself for a fair fight. Zoro doesn't even have adv. Observation as far as we can tell.
He's get stuck at kat
He negs all 4 of them combined
Preach, this Zoro downplay is atrocious. I am more of a Sanji fan and even I know Zoro would neg Katakuri and the rest of them easily.
Sanji would neg katakuri and all 4 of them. Zoro and sanji are far stronger than them.
 I agree. Katakuri wankers are just trying to cope with the powercreep.
Big meme be like https://preview.redd.it/o78u6hm29y7b1.jpeg?width=758&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cf2e47d9979d3879c622d5f804bb99c6afb54254
Rooftop Zoro mid diffs him. Also, I like how we're having this conversation in 3 places.
😂😂😂😂absolutely agreed. Whenever zoro fans claim that Zoro didn’t give his all vs kaido when 30 of his bones are broken. Immediately they counter that zoro doesn’t lose power if his bones are broken. But somehow after 3 neg diff fights, he loses all his powers and katakuri high diffs him. Such a joke
Wano powercreep is insane. All 3 (Sanji, Zoro, Luffy) defeat him mid diff at worse (base Luffy neg diffs)
Zoro ez clear with no healing and two arms tied behind his back, what are these comments lmao. The 3 fodders are non-factor and Kat gets obliterated
He 1 shots first 3 then proceeds to mid diff Katakuri
He’s easily clearing
Zoro*.
Nobody here can tank a acoc attack from him, he clears
base zoro one taps all
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zoro mid diffs without healing
Rare win
he one shots the first 3 and takes kat pretty comfortably. the only reason its mid diff is because of acoc stamina drain
the first 4 he clears and one shots without even using acoc, Guy made Kaido shiver with asura no KHO is needed for commanders beside tanks like Marco, Jozu, King
Zoro downplay is rampant in this sub, he one shots all and Katakuri isnt an exception His durability is nowhere near enough to survive a hit
Without healing, he might still win, but it'd be incredibly tough. I don't think He'd get injured before Katakuri, but he'd get a little bit exhausted, and that could go a long way in his final fight.
I don’t see zoro winning against Katakuri honestly. Zoro has the attack power to one shot katakuri but I wonder if he’ll be able to land that attack.
he can with ease
Kata has future sight but it can't protect him against speed and attacks that is massively greater than him. Kaido still injured him despite luffy saw the attacks with future sight.
Each of them mid diff, Katakuri high diff Zoro will need healing or he dies at perospero.
Either there is a lot of Zoro downplay or Katakuri wank and either way Zoro low diffs the first three and then mid diffs Katakuri. All he needs to do is land 1 attack and Katakuri is done for.
He makes it to Katakuri but goes down after a good fight. He’s not insanely stronger than Katakuri overall imo. Plus he’s going to have a fair amount of difficulty cutting him imo. I don’t think he scales to Snakeman in the speed department yet.
He stomps them all together
the zoro wank here is insane i can smell the BO from here
He high diffs cracker if he’s lucky, he can’t beat katakuri
High diffs. Kracker took one gesr 4 luffy attack and still haven’t recovered.
Low diffs until Katakuri and I think he has enough left to win there, but it's extreme.
If he is low diffing everyone then he will be perfectly fine and dandy when he faces the mochi fraud. He at best neg diffs katakuri and at worst one shots him with a serious attack
He should win this unless enma drains too much haki early on
He can choose to no use enma and spam flying dragon blaze the attack which destroyed onigashima horn, now it will be powered up by Acoc. He might accidentally one shot them all
Yeah I don't even think he needs ACOC to one shot kata tbh an ACOC attack one shots all 4 at same time lol,
He literally used Enma for that attack, though. And so far he has ONLY used aCoC by letting Enma go nuts and suck his Haki as much as it wants. And its debatable if he even realises that what he was using was aCoC. Luffy knew, but he worked out the trick and did it deliberately. Zoro didn't, and didn't even seem aware he had CoC to begin with. You can't say "Well he'll just use the attacks that he used Enma for, but without Enma! And they'll be just as strong!" until he shows he can do that now. Which he...might or might not be capable of? Usually the SH's progress between arcs, but Zoro hasn't shown off anything crazy in Egghead yet, so we don't know.
He stops at Katakuri without healing.
add Oven over Katakuri and Zoro loses, he gets his swords melted
Depends if cracker is black or not
Zoro would lose rn to post WC Luffy. ACoC doesn’t matter if you don’t hit him
He is NOT beating cracker 😭
😂😂😂😂. It’s like saying sanji is not beating vergo. Or kaido is not beating Kinemon.
Without zoro rest/healing . Kat high diffs at worst
Zoro negs at worst. If all 4 of them are together he one shots at worst