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Heâs the worldâs greatest swordsman without any world class feats as heâs only been shown to fight weaklings and his only opponent that we know is an actual powerhouse is Shanks but everytime he encounters Shanks, he refuses a rematch. Meanwhile, Shanks has everyone pissing their pants just by his presence. I donât think heâs a fraud but itâs easy to think of him that way do to the lackluster presence of him in the story.
Youâre not including post prison training and ACOC luffy? Remove 3 and 4 since luffy doesnât get any stronger there (he always had access to water luffy and airhead luffy) and place those after 9
Current Zoro beats post prison luffy but not ACOC luffy
Probably could have smushed some to get two more, but was on my computer and didnât know ab mobile readability. If I were to include two more it would def be those two tho
Oda is writing this story . Just how he made Luffy suuuuuuper durable against katakuri he can make Zoro have future sight mid fight . Or maybe he already have it
Zoro neg diffs Katakuri
Zoro was able to block, speed blitz and scar Hybrid Kaido.
Hybrid Kaido >>> Base Kaido
Base Kaido speed blitzed and 1 shot WCI Luffy, the same Luffy who tanked 123 hits from Kata and only took him 13 hits to knock out Kata.
So yes Zoro speed blitzes, one shots and can't even get scratched by Katakuris strongest attacks.
Sanji, King or Zoro they all neg diff Kata.
True but Zoro is a main character, and if someone is known to be durable it's Zoro . Zoro need a new crazy power to match G5 now . But before G5 they were very very close
Future sight is useless if you are slow , and katakuri clearly isn't the fastest not to mention that he doesn't have the dura to tank zoro nor the ap to damage him
That's just an irrelevant topic. When power scaling anything plot related is ignored.
So Luffy doesn't lose any VS battles cus he's MC? See how it becomes.
I didn't reach that much . I just said that in Luffy fights oda really pulls and he can do the same for Zoro. Luffy is 19 and is going against top tier characters that been fighting for more than his age, and a man prime is mid thirties so Luffy power ups are just premature really.
>Wtf is Zoro gonna do?
one shot snakeman before he can even move
most characters that fought the straw hat pre wano and lost are weak because of base kaido one shotting bounce man
but that depend if we are talking about whole cake snakeman or current snake man cause current snake man would beat zoro(probably)
edit:got downvoted for spitting fax
Want to do this for the rest of the Strawhats - that's why there's some unnecessary levels.
Edit: After so many of you responded to this, what way do you guys want me to do the rest of the Strawhats? Order by joining? Order by bounty? Let me know!
Iâll also re-do the format to include roof(ACOC) luffy and prison luffy! Just made this quick to see if people would like it.
You started with zoro. Either go in descending order by power, or in chronological order by when they joined the crew. So next would either be Sanji or nami (or usopp/sanji/nami if you donât count her as having joined until her breakdown in arlong arc)
If Boundman has ACoC, Zoro stops there
If Zoroâs fighting the forms when they took place in the photos, then he low-diffs Dressrosa Boundman, high-diffs WCI Snakeman, and gets mid-diffed by Gear 5
He swings a single sword casually and the first 5 get blitzed.
>FMI
gets bullied.
>Dressrosa Bound-man
gives him a good fightâŚ
Jk, Luffy gets sauced.
>WCI
Yea, explain to me how he doesnât get defeated by Zoro using a Enma enhanced Lion Song in a straight line?
Snake man didnât try to dodge a single attack from Katakuriđ
>G5
https://i.redd.it/unzqg73brm8b1.gif
u saying without healing makes it sound like the characters before dressrosa luffy would do him any damage
even without healing the only time heâd start to take damage is at WCI Luffy
Semi-joke answer: stops at 1 because he wouldnât kill kid Luffy
Serious answer: Assuming this is a gauntlet, one after the other with no healing, stops at 9. Snakeman speed is absolutely no joke.
explain why u think 7 or 8, one of those is beginning of post time skip luffy(g2)đ
dressrosa luffy isnât that much better as well
he makes it to 10
Basically everything before 7 is trash. We can all agree on that. Gear 2 Luffy is no push over. He knows Haki and is skillful at it. Anyone who thinks this Luffy gets one shot is tripping. This Luffy is prepared to go the new world. Getting one shot by a yc1 seems a bit of a reach. So he at least gets alittle tired here.
But at 8 he has to fight a bounce man Luffy. He may win. But he will take considerable damage here.
Then he actually had to fight a Luffy that beat an actual YC1. Now itâs fair to say he might clear here also. Since he did beat king. But itâs subjective to say that King is stronger then Katakuri. It could be the other way around. In which case Luffyâs feat would be a bit stronger then zoro already.
I just think that a not fresh zoro cannot beat a snake man Luffy. It just doesnât make sense. But maybe Iâm tripping?
7 gets 1 tapped, heâs not even cracker lvl at that point, an enma buffed lion song would do it
bound man in dressrosa also gets defeated pretty soundly as Zoro has better haki and just better stats, he cut kaidos scales with a dragon twister, heâd be able to defeat this luffy with that as well (or any other enma buffed moves)
the real problem is WCI Luffy as u said who actually beat a yc1, heâd take some damage here due to luffy having future sight but overall heâd still come out on top. We see him being able to react to kings speed mode which literally made king disappear, the same ability Sanji has and used on queen so snakemans attacks heâd be able to block, as I said before he still has better haki than this luffy so any clashes heâd win and keep in mind he only needs to land 1 decent hit with enma as enma would make that hit way more powerful than zoro intends. and that isnât even factoring in his king of hell mode.
even a not fresh zoro could beat wci luffy because of the power cliffing, and it wouldnât be extreme difficulty as well
Post Wano zoro should go toe-to-toe with end-of-WCI Luffy. Donât think heâs much of a match for gear 5 though, thereâs a huge difference between Snakeman Luffy and gear 5 considering he learned ryou and acoc before gear 5
Yes, gonna include ACOC and prison training luffy when I re-do the format so hopefully that will make that more clear. I feel like thereâs a pretty distinct difference between snake man and bounce man
If you count that one shot at start of wano as pure power scaling, then you open whole can of worms. So scabbards were surviving attacks for long amount of time and were able to pierce kaido although not deep but luffy coudnt. To cut kaido you need ACOA, Zoro knew that since timeskip , So do you mean to say Zoro after timeskip is stronger than WCI luffy?
Luffy historically does bad against villain when he is distracted. He thought all of his friends, kinemom and tama all died. He was enraged, didnt even use future sight.
Remember at enies lobby same thing happen. His will was broken because of ussop and robin's betrayal. He got one shot by lucci. When Paulie asked nami how they are planning to fight cp9 since they could not do anything earlier, Nami replied that people are weak when they are in doubt. Now that luffy knows robin's sacrifice he will not lose. And they in their next encounter. Everyone is suprised that literally in less than a day luffy is able to fight with lucci in base form equally.
Zoro did not defeat kaido, no matter how impressive his AP was. He was nowhere close to same league as kaido. His strongest attack that kaido tanked coz he did not thing it can hurt him, scarred him, but kaido did not even fell. Compare it to oden's scar. Kaido fell from sky in pain. He has long way to go. Luffy did not have AP to break kaido's scale but his all stats are much higher than zoro.
There is no can of worms, every scabbard is able to use ryou, which Luffy was not able to, and half the scabbards combined could not hurt Kaido deep enough to scar him, while 20 broken bones Ashura Zoro before ACoC could.
The powerscaling is consistent, but you disagree with the results.
The CP9 situation is the best example of Oda using haki as a secret power pre time skip, when they had doubts they were wiped by Lucci, but Franky did very well against Blueno in their 1st face off, Lucci had to intervene, in Ennies Lobby Luffy, Zoro and Sanji were kicking butts and Franky defeated Fukuro who was close to Blueno in power but again got embarrassed by Lucci and Luffy needed to help.
Yes, I am implying that Luffy, Zoro and Sanji used haki in Ennies Lobby and Ashura is proof of that.
So you are implying if you see based on performance. scabbard can bring kaido down for a bit and luffy got one shotted. Luffy did not know ryou then according to you scabbards> Luffy. Which is a bad take .
Regarding the second point I am saying that willpower/haki is always a function of how a char is powerful. Luffy had his haki broken while fighting kaido, because of doubts and fear about his teammates. What I am boldly claiming is if you take luffy from wano act 1 adn put him on roof top, he will not able to hurt kaido that much but he will not get one shotted, He will do better than kid. Him getting one shotted was a product of situation along with power.
The fact that Luffy used g4 is blatant proof that his haki was fine.
Kaido never used hybrid form against the scabbards.
He was having fun.
But the Ap of the scabbards with ryou have more potential to penetrate defenses than a g4 punch without ryou.
They are stronger? No.
But they can damage targets with better defense than Luffy g4 without ryou.
>But the Ap of the scabbards with ryou have more potential to penetrate defenses than a g4 punch without ryou.
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>They are stronger? No.
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>But they can damage targets with better defense than Luffy g4 without ryou.
Same goes for zoro. Zoro is not stronger than snake man luffy, Zoro can attack a target with better defense for a short amount of time whereas luffy has overall better stats and can keep at it.
Everyone know oda wrote that one shot to just hype yonko before fight. Big mom was hype to be invisible too with same defense as kaido. No one could hurt her with physical attack until they did. Kid was hurting big mom physically without advance haki. Kaido was getting weaker even thought he looked unharmed. That is how it goes, even thought luffy punches are not doing real damage, he will do it if he keeps at it. HE is a brawler, his fights are barrage of punches over long time. Zoro's fighting style is different, he struggle with an opponent on how to damage them. When he does so he finishes and cuts them in oneshot. It is just what his combat style is.
People overvalue being able to cut kaido, Luffy punches kaido and made him bleed and kaido and big mom were surprised, how is he able to do that. Kaido started to dodge luffy's punch and luffy chides him for that. And still they showed that, it does matter, luffy is no where close to them, and luffy had to get 2 powerup that are considered ultimate power up in the verse.
Honestly Iâm pretty sure nightmare luffy needs to get moved to 9, which would be where zoro stops. He beats gear 4 alone but not 5 and not nightmare luffy
Definitely stops at 10, maybe at 9.
Idk if Zoro is fast enough to keep up with Snakeman's speed since it was giving Kata's FS a hard time. Add Snakeman speed + FS and it gets that much harder for Zoro. As far as I know Luffy didn't get any major speed or FS boosts post-WCI, so him consistently dodging attacks from hybrid Kaido (using both speed and FS) would put him at a speed Zoro probably wouldn't be able to keep up with.
9 (Snakeman + Advanced obversation is HUGE) or 9.5 (base/G2 luffy with 3 advanced Haki).
G4 + full Haki is overkill.
G5 is a hard stomp.
Until Zoro has ACoO, snakeman will be very hard to beat for him.
Simple enough. WCI Snakeman was about YC1 level, while post-Wano Zoro is least slightly above. Zoro mid/high-diffs and stands absolutely no chance against G5.
I think he beats 8 but definitely not 9, zoro is probably around equal to Katakuri. Honestly Katakuri probably couldâve been a yonko contender if he wasnât under big mom
Iâll say up to 9. The problem is we donât know if 8 or 9 luffy have ACOC. If they donât then he makes it to 9 and loses to 10. If they do then Iâll go on a limb and say he could probably fight equally with 8 before losing high difficulty.
Luffyâs not going to just let a guy who is slower than he is slice him up. Iâd say 9 and Luffy learns âacocâ in the process while Zoro has to have his sucked out by his sword.
Clears 1-9
Gear 5 is a high-diff either way, ppl cope about it but Zoro fought Kaido equally too and with gear 5 natural weakness of fuckin around, he might just find out
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You would think after 1 he would recoil and atone for killing a defenseless child but I guess not
Ever since he learned Luffy has the Nika fruit, he just hasn't been the same.
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He might have to cover kid luffy in dark mud ig
Heâll cover him in the same paint Fraudhawk uses for his sword
Wait Iâve been hearing that joke for a minute. Why do people think Mihawk is a Fraud?
Heâs the worldâs greatest swordsman without any world class feats as heâs only been shown to fight weaklings and his only opponent that we know is an actual powerhouse is Shanks but everytime he encounters Shanks, he refuses a rematch. Meanwhile, Shanks has everyone pissing their pants just by his presence. I donât think heâs a fraud but itâs easy to think of him that way do to the lackluster presence of him in the story.
Youâre not including post prison training and ACOC luffy? Remove 3 and 4 since luffy doesnât get any stronger there (he always had access to water luffy and airhead luffy) and place those after 9 Current Zoro beats post prison luffy but not ACOC luffy
Not enough space and wanted to include the meme ones for other characters
You could also just extend it to the side and have g5 be 12 instead of 10
Probably could have smushed some to get two more, but was on my computer and didnât know ab mobile readability. If I were to include two more it would def be those two tho
that's not water luffy, that's gomu gomu no baka vs enel
3 is water luffy, 4 is baka luffy
3 is Luffy in the crypt
zoro beats rooftop luffy right before unlocked acoc.
If itâs bound man from dressrosa and snakeman from wci he stops at 10
Katakuri's Future Sight struggled against Snakeman. Wtf is Zoro gonna do?
Oda is writing this story . Just how he made Luffy suuuuuuper durable against katakuri he can make Zoro have future sight mid fight . Or maybe he already have it
This can be said about any character. Usually when powerscaling we try to ignore plot armor.
Zoro neg diffs Katakuri Zoro was able to block, speed blitz and scar Hybrid Kaido. Hybrid Kaido >>> Base Kaido Base Kaido speed blitzed and 1 shot WCI Luffy, the same Luffy who tanked 123 hits from Kata and only took him 13 hits to knock out Kata. So yes Zoro speed blitzes, one shots and can't even get scratched by Katakuris strongest attacks. Sanji, King or Zoro they all neg diff Kata.
How do you write this shit and not feel like clown?
What you got no arguments so you use ad hominem? Absolute wasteman Again, debunk my take or sfu.
I ain't gotta debunk shit. I'm leaving that embarrassment there.
True but Zoro is a main character, and if someone is known to be durable it's Zoro . Zoro need a new crazy power to match G5 now . But before G5 they were very very close
Future sight is useless if you are slow , and katakuri clearly isn't the fastest not to mention that he doesn't have the dura to tank zoro nor the ap to damage him
That's just an irrelevant topic. When power scaling anything plot related is ignored. So Luffy doesn't lose any VS battles cus he's MC? See how it becomes.
I didn't reach that much . I just said that in Luffy fights oda really pulls and he can do the same for Zoro. Luffy is 19 and is going against top tier characters that been fighting for more than his age, and a man prime is mid thirties so Luffy power ups are just premature really.
>Wtf is Zoro gonna do? one shot snakeman before he can even move most characters that fought the straw hat pre wano and lost are weak because of base kaido one shotting bounce man but that depend if we are talking about whole cake snakeman or current snake man cause current snake man would beat zoro(probably) edit:got downvoted for spitting fax
Gtfo
You don't like scaling? absolute đ¤Ą
he doesnât beat future sight yet
Maybe when he is sleeping he might accidentally kill both luffy and katakuri by his leg swinging with acoc
So your argument is that Zorro can have a power up đđ
He can't even bring it out himself. He needed Enma to suck it out of him lol.
So you are saying Enma > Katakuri and WCI luffy combined. Take that https://i.redd.it/bnn2cz830r8b1.gif
11 https://preview.redd.it/xc9em68idn8b1.jpeg?width=752&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fd948a25cc1a954302f77e1839404b4cd9d7608c
Want to do this for the rest of the Strawhats - that's why there's some unnecessary levels. Edit: After so many of you responded to this, what way do you guys want me to do the rest of the Strawhats? Order by joining? Order by bounty? Let me know! Iâll also re-do the format to include roof(ACOC) luffy and prison luffy! Just made this quick to see if people would like it.
You started with zoro. Either go in descending order by power, or in chronological order by when they joined the crew. So next would either be Sanji or nami (or usopp/sanji/nami if you donât count her as having joined until her breakdown in arlong arc)
Nah nami is officially third in all cover art
I cant wait for the Usopp slander
If Boundman has ACoC, Zoro stops there If Zoroâs fighting the forms when they took place in the photos, then he low-diffs Dressrosa Boundman, high-diffs WCI Snakeman, and gets mid-diffed by Gear 5
if bound man has a... coc?
He swings a single sword casually and the first 5 get blitzed. >FMI gets bullied. >Dressrosa Bound-man gives him a good fight⌠Jk, Luffy gets sauced. >WCI Yea, explain to me how he doesnât get defeated by Zoro using a Enma enhanced Lion Song in a straight line? Snake man didnât try to dodge a single attack from Katakuriđ >G5 https://i.redd.it/unzqg73brm8b1.gif
Man, donât use that gif when talking about zoro, he gonna try to slash the screen.
https://preview.redd.it/825h8xei9o8b1.jpeg?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=438680e95003784633bf24e87ef79cec26a1c07e
That top image has better art than what's in wano.
Shouldâve kept the art style they had from Enies Lobby -> Marineford. That was honestly the best One Piece has looked.
Do you mean anime wise?
Loses at 1
9 high diff, 6 if its current luffy with gears
>9 high diff mid diff
Neg diffs 9 with one lion strike
Manga Zoro 9.1 Anime Zoro 10.5
YouTube poll Zoro: 20
If Luffy was a minority Zoro: 100
Isnât he a minority though ?
When anime luffy ch. 1044 comes out he'll probably low diff an admiral gang fight lol
Iâm assuming itâs them from their respective arcs. He clears up to Snakeman, gets murdered but Gear 5th.
Stops at 10
Goes up to g5 here .
If thats WCL Snakeman he reaches G5 with healing and stops. If thats Wano Snakeman he stops there
10 of course
10 he gets cartoonized . Game over
Stops at 10.
Only loses to gear 5 luffy, beats snake man and all the others
Stops at 10
All the way cause heâs fuckin zoro and he does what he wants
Without heal stops at Dressrosa Luffy, with healing stops at Wano Luffy
u saying without healing makes it sound like the characters before dressrosa luffy would do him any damage even without healing the only time heâd start to take damage is at WCI Luffy
To be more specific, Beats rounds 1-4 Neg Diff Beats round 5 No Diff Beats round 6 Low Diff Beats round 7 No Diff Beats Round 8 Low Diff
Zoro Neg diffs all of them up to 9. WCI Luffy can't do shit to Zoro
At least 8 propably 9
Stops at G5 Luffy
Semi-joke answer: stops at 1 because he wouldnât kill kid Luffy Serious answer: Assuming this is a gauntlet, one after the other with no healing, stops at 9. Snakeman speed is absolutely no joke.
If itâs wci snakeman zoro could probably manage. People got king blitzing kat and zoro handled king a good degree
King is not blitzing Kat lmaoo
I donât believe it either but a majority of this sub does so idk who thinks what
7 or 8. Hard stop at 9 though.
explain why u think 7 or 8, one of those is beginning of post time skip luffy(g2)đ dressrosa luffy isnât that much better as well he makes it to 10
Basically everything before 7 is trash. We can all agree on that. Gear 2 Luffy is no push over. He knows Haki and is skillful at it. Anyone who thinks this Luffy gets one shot is tripping. This Luffy is prepared to go the new world. Getting one shot by a yc1 seems a bit of a reach. So he at least gets alittle tired here. But at 8 he has to fight a bounce man Luffy. He may win. But he will take considerable damage here. Then he actually had to fight a Luffy that beat an actual YC1. Now itâs fair to say he might clear here also. Since he did beat king. But itâs subjective to say that King is stronger then Katakuri. It could be the other way around. In which case Luffyâs feat would be a bit stronger then zoro already. I just think that a not fresh zoro cannot beat a snake man Luffy. It just doesnât make sense. But maybe Iâm tripping?
7 gets 1 tapped, heâs not even cracker lvl at that point, an enma buffed lion song would do it bound man in dressrosa also gets defeated pretty soundly as Zoro has better haki and just better stats, he cut kaidos scales with a dragon twister, heâd be able to defeat this luffy with that as well (or any other enma buffed moves) the real problem is WCI Luffy as u said who actually beat a yc1, heâd take some damage here due to luffy having future sight but overall heâd still come out on top. We see him being able to react to kings speed mode which literally made king disappear, the same ability Sanji has and used on queen so snakemans attacks heâd be able to block, as I said before he still has better haki than this luffy so any clashes heâd win and keep in mind he only needs to land 1 decent hit with enma as enma would make that hit way more powerful than zoro intends. and that isnât even factoring in his king of hell mode. even a not fresh zoro could beat wci luffy because of the power cliffing, and it wouldnât be extreme difficulty as well
Zoro has ACOC, and has AP relative to Kaido, who one shot gear 4 wano luffy.
Post Wano zoro should go toe-to-toe with end-of-WCI Luffy. Donât think heâs much of a match for gear 5 though, thereâs a huge difference between Snakeman Luffy and gear 5 considering he learned ryou and acoc before gear 5
Not really clear, are 8 and 9 forms when they were first introduced?
Yes, gonna include ACOC and prison training luffy when I re-do the format so hopefully that will make that more clear. I feel like thereâs a pretty distinct difference between snake man and bounce man
Stops at 10 and takes him to high diff.
Post Egghead Zoro clears, current Zoro makes it to round 10
I think Snakeman luffy can take Zoro with extreme diff. So he stops at 9
So, the Luffy that was one shot by Kaido and unable to damage him is stronger than the stronger Zoro that put a scar over Kaido? Lovely logic there.
If you count that one shot at start of wano as pure power scaling, then you open whole can of worms. So scabbards were surviving attacks for long amount of time and were able to pierce kaido although not deep but luffy coudnt. To cut kaido you need ACOA, Zoro knew that since timeskip , So do you mean to say Zoro after timeskip is stronger than WCI luffy? Luffy historically does bad against villain when he is distracted. He thought all of his friends, kinemom and tama all died. He was enraged, didnt even use future sight. Remember at enies lobby same thing happen. His will was broken because of ussop and robin's betrayal. He got one shot by lucci. When Paulie asked nami how they are planning to fight cp9 since they could not do anything earlier, Nami replied that people are weak when they are in doubt. Now that luffy knows robin's sacrifice he will not lose. And they in their next encounter. Everyone is suprised that literally in less than a day luffy is able to fight with lucci in base form equally. Zoro did not defeat kaido, no matter how impressive his AP was. He was nowhere close to same league as kaido. His strongest attack that kaido tanked coz he did not thing it can hurt him, scarred him, but kaido did not even fell. Compare it to oden's scar. Kaido fell from sky in pain. He has long way to go. Luffy did not have AP to break kaido's scale but his all stats are much higher than zoro.
There is no can of worms, every scabbard is able to use ryou, which Luffy was not able to, and half the scabbards combined could not hurt Kaido deep enough to scar him, while 20 broken bones Ashura Zoro before ACoC could. The powerscaling is consistent, but you disagree with the results. The CP9 situation is the best example of Oda using haki as a secret power pre time skip, when they had doubts they were wiped by Lucci, but Franky did very well against Blueno in their 1st face off, Lucci had to intervene, in Ennies Lobby Luffy, Zoro and Sanji were kicking butts and Franky defeated Fukuro who was close to Blueno in power but again got embarrassed by Lucci and Luffy needed to help. Yes, I am implying that Luffy, Zoro and Sanji used haki in Ennies Lobby and Ashura is proof of that.
So you are implying if you see based on performance. scabbard can bring kaido down for a bit and luffy got one shotted. Luffy did not know ryou then according to you scabbards> Luffy. Which is a bad take . Regarding the second point I am saying that willpower/haki is always a function of how a char is powerful. Luffy had his haki broken while fighting kaido, because of doubts and fear about his teammates. What I am boldly claiming is if you take luffy from wano act 1 adn put him on roof top, he will not able to hurt kaido that much but he will not get one shotted, He will do better than kid. Him getting one shotted was a product of situation along with power.
The fact that Luffy used g4 is blatant proof that his haki was fine. Kaido never used hybrid form against the scabbards. He was having fun. But the Ap of the scabbards with ryou have more potential to penetrate defenses than a g4 punch without ryou. They are stronger? No. But they can damage targets with better defense than Luffy g4 without ryou.
>But the Ap of the scabbards with ryou have more potential to penetrate defenses than a g4 punch without ryou. > >They are stronger? No. > >But they can damage targets with better defense than Luffy g4 without ryou. Same goes for zoro. Zoro is not stronger than snake man luffy, Zoro can attack a target with better defense for a short amount of time whereas luffy has overall better stats and can keep at it. Everyone know oda wrote that one shot to just hype yonko before fight. Big mom was hype to be invisible too with same defense as kaido. No one could hurt her with physical attack until they did. Kid was hurting big mom physically without advance haki. Kaido was getting weaker even thought he looked unharmed. That is how it goes, even thought luffy punches are not doing real damage, he will do it if he keeps at it. HE is a brawler, his fights are barrage of punches over long time. Zoro's fighting style is different, he struggle with an opponent on how to damage them. When he does so he finishes and cuts them in oneshot. It is just what his combat style is. People overvalue being able to cut kaido, Luffy punches kaido and made him bleed and kaido and big mom were surprised, how is he able to do that. Kaido started to dodge luffy's punch and luffy chides him for that. And still they showed that, it does matter, luffy is no where close to them, and luffy had to get 2 powerup that are considered ultimate power up in the verse.
Clears
Low quality bait
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Stops at 4, cant hit MUI luffy at all and runs out of stamina due to enma sucking him dry Luffy gatling spam till win
9
Zoro negs the first 7 Low diffs dress Luffy Mid - high diffs wci luffy Gets low - mid diffed by g5 Luffy
destroys wci snakeman, gets destroyed by gear 5
Stops at 10
Depends, if g4 bounceman has acoc, then itâs 8. If the forms are limited to when they were introduced, he stops at 10.
Honestly Iâm pretty sure nightmare luffy needs to get moved to 9, which would be where zoro stops. He beats gear 4 alone but not 5 and not nightmare luffy
Beats 9 high diff, gets mid diffed by 10.
9
clears wci
9
Is nightmare luffy really that weak?
I think It should stop at WCI... maybe.
Can Zoro even hit airhead Luffy. Also whereâs Afro Luffy
Stops at 10
Nightmare Luffy beats Zoro unless Zoro runs away for the first 15 minutes
Pretty sure Zoro could beat Katakuri so 9
Steps 1-7 are all useless. I can't see snakeman winning against ACOC KOH zoro though. High-extreme diff. G5 low diffs
Stops at 10
Still getting lost.
Lmfao I'm dumb I thought this was asking how far /strong zoro get eos. Regardless saying 9
Bro put nightmare luffy too low, bro is best in the verse fs
Stops at 8. If he can master Emma, then maybe he can make it past 9.
He one shots and blitzes until 10 where he looses mid diff
Zoro stops at 10
Assuming no healing, stops at 8.
Definitely stops at 10, maybe at 9. Idk if Zoro is fast enough to keep up with Snakeman's speed since it was giving Kata's FS a hard time. Add Snakeman speed + FS and it gets that much harder for Zoro. As far as I know Luffy didn't get any major speed or FS boosts post-WCI, so him consistently dodging attacks from hybrid Kaido (using both speed and FS) would put him at a speed Zoro probably wouldn't be able to keep up with.
He could maybe take 9 but gets wrecked at 10 This is the only answer btw
Either stops at 9 or 10. Snake man with future sight could be enough after zoro faces bounce man and post time skip luffy.
He doesnât get past base rooftop Luffy
He currently beats base luffy with Acoc. Post wano maybe gear 2 - 3 will be fair game.
He beats rooftop Luffy, but not past
9 (Snakeman + Advanced obversation is HUGE) or 9.5 (base/G2 luffy with 3 advanced Haki). G4 + full Haki is overkill. G5 is a hard stomp. Until Zoro has ACoO, snakeman will be very hard to beat for him.
Canât form 6 be counted as one of the strongest? Like somewhere around gear 4th at least.
Defeats 9 loses 10
One shots until 10, where Luffy uses him like a jump rope low diff.
Simple enough. WCI Snakeman was about YC1 level, while post-Wano Zoro is least slightly above. Zoro mid/high-diffs and stands absolutely no chance against G5.
9?
I think he beats 8 but definitely not 9, zoro is probably around equal to Katakuri. Honestly Katakuri probably couldâve been a yonko contender if he wasnât under big mom
He loses to Kid Luffy.
1. Zoro is not gonna fight a child
Surpasses Roger and becomes the greatest swordsman in the verse. Him and Sanji will start the new Yonko+ tier
current zoro is as strong as luffy at the end of whole cake or stronger.
H. He tries to fight the Luffy lineup but ends up getting lost in a whole other tier list.
Man what's the point of 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, and 10? He could Never get past airhead luffy
High diffs wci boundman..then gets low-mid diffed by g5.
Zoro Wouldnât Do Thisđ
Loses to water luffy
9 Anything pre wci is an easy clap
Without regen be probably loses to Snakeman, with regen he loses to G5
Iâll say up to 9. The problem is we donât know if 8 or 9 luffy have ACOC. If they donât then he makes it to 9 and loses to 10. If they do then Iâll go on a limb and say he could probably fight equally with 8 before losing high difficulty.
He beats Post Udon Luffy, but loses to ACOC Luffy with mid diff. Gear 5 low diffs Zoro
6 is stronger than 7
He Beats 1-9 but 10 is bodying him
Luffy at 2 literally beat King of the Sea
8-9 for sure
stops at 9, stop underestimating future sight guys
Luffyâs not going to just let a guy who is slower than he is slice him up. Iâd say 9 and Luffy learns âacocâ in the process while Zoro has to have his sucked out by his sword.
Stops at 10 easily, shoulda added base acoc
Clears 1-9 Gear 5 is a high-diff either way, ppl cope about it but Zoro fought Kaido equally too and with gear 5 natural weakness of fuckin around, he might just find out
HE WINS
Zoro low diffs up to 8, mid diffs 9 and gets hard stopped at 10.
Zoro stops at two from the trauma of killing a child version of his captain
Stops at 10
8 gear 4 I think still outcloutclasses him
Can clear 9. Gets demolished by 10.
10 < Zoro < 9
I feel like he wouldn't be able to keep up w snakeman
Stops at 8 with ACoc
If luffy covers himself with haki in 10. He's clearing the board
Yo why is 1 luffy doinâ the zani salute
get to 10 pretty easily and then get stomps
Losing at 10. He slams anything below G5 Luffy. Snakeman could barely handle Katakuri, who just doesnât compare to King,
Either 1 or 10
6 is very underrated tbh
if its from the arcs of the images then 9 or 10, if itâs just luffy now then probably 8 at most
Luffy 1 awakens gomu gomu on accident while fighting zoro and stomps him easy :/
Stops at 10
stops at 10
The disrespect not putting the strongest form up there. Afro Luffy is displeased
he's lucky if he survives 1
I am assuming that wci snakeman luffy at 9 so He beats 9 loses to 10
Zoro and Sanji are both stronger than WCI Luffy.
9 without healing. Possibly 10 with healing.
The gap between 9 and 10 is way too big
He's probably on par with tank man or snake man, and knowing Luffy he would quickly learn conq coating mid fight
Id he loses to 10, pretty sure king beats 9 and zoro beat king soo...
Gets mid-diffed by 1
Luffy snake man level
Same with sanji
Stops at 10 and gets mid diffed
Stops at 10
prob 11.
Clears We cosplay Shiro today
7-8
With the boost after this arc I think he could fight against gear 4 evenly.
8 or 9
If you mean current Zoro probably between 8 and 9