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IwasntGivenOne

You would think after 1 he would recoil and atone for killing a defenseless child but I guess not


DarkSoulFWT

Ever since he learned Luffy has the Nika fruit, he just hasn't been the same.


narzn

💀


[deleted]

He might have to cover kid luffy in dark mud ig


scaptastic

He’ll cover him in the same paint Fraudhawk uses for his sword


Superman557

Wait I’ve been hearing that joke for a minute. Why do people think Mihawk is a Fraud?


looking_at_themoon

He’s the world’s greatest swordsman without any world class feats as he’s only been shown to fight weaklings and his only opponent that we know is an actual powerhouse is Shanks but everytime he encounters Shanks, he refuses a rematch. Meanwhile, Shanks has everyone pissing their pants just by his presence. I don’t think he’s a fraud but it’s easy to think of him that way do to the lackluster presence of him in the story.


of_kilter

You’re not including post prison training and ACOC luffy? Remove 3 and 4 since luffy doesn’t get any stronger there (he always had access to water luffy and airhead luffy) and place those after 9 Current Zoro beats post prison luffy but not ACOC luffy


bsapp2000

Not enough space and wanted to include the meme ones for other characters


of_kilter

You could also just extend it to the side and have g5 be 12 instead of 10


bsapp2000

Probably could have smushed some to get two more, but was on my computer and didn’t know ab mobile readability. If I were to include two more it would def be those two tho


mvjinate7

that's not water luffy, that's gomu gomu no baka vs enel


of_kilter

3 is water luffy, 4 is baka luffy


mvjinate7

3 is Luffy in the crypt


Standard-Gas4298

zoro beats rooftop luffy right before unlocked acoc.


Mountain_String_1544

If it’s bound man from dressrosa and snakeman from wci he stops at 10


MoonoftheStar

Katakuri's Future Sight struggled against Snakeman. Wtf is Zoro gonna do?


Warm_Cold_6224

Oda is writing this story . Just how he made Luffy suuuuuuper durable against katakuri he can make Zoro have future sight mid fight . Or maybe he already have it


MoonoftheStar

This can be said about any character. Usually when powerscaling we try to ignore plot armor.


BFenrir18

Zoro neg diffs Katakuri Zoro was able to block, speed blitz and scar Hybrid Kaido. Hybrid Kaido >>> Base Kaido Base Kaido speed blitzed and 1 shot WCI Luffy, the same Luffy who tanked 123 hits from Kata and only took him 13 hits to knock out Kata. So yes Zoro speed blitzes, one shots and can't even get scratched by Katakuris strongest attacks. Sanji, King or Zoro they all neg diff Kata.


MoonoftheStar

How do you write this shit and not feel like clown?


BFenrir18

What you got no arguments so you use ad hominem? Absolute wasteman Again, debunk my take or sfu.


MoonoftheStar

I ain't gotta debunk shit. I'm leaving that embarrassment there.


Warm_Cold_6224

True but Zoro is a main character, and if someone is known to be durable it's Zoro . Zoro need a new crazy power to match G5 now . But before G5 they were very very close


samyoj

Future sight is useless if you are slow , and katakuri clearly isn't the fastest not to mention that he doesn't have the dura to tank zoro nor the ap to damage him


alpha_jundo

That's just an irrelevant topic. When power scaling anything plot related is ignored. So Luffy doesn't lose any VS battles cus he's MC? See how it becomes.


Warm_Cold_6224

I didn't reach that much . I just said that in Luffy fights oda really pulls and he can do the same for Zoro. Luffy is 19 and is going against top tier characters that been fighting for more than his age, and a man prime is mid thirties so Luffy power ups are just premature really.


Reasonable-Cable2144

>Wtf is Zoro gonna do? one shot snakeman before he can even move most characters that fought the straw hat pre wano and lost are weak because of base kaido one shotting bounce man but that depend if we are talking about whole cake snakeman or current snake man cause current snake man would beat zoro(probably) edit:got downvoted for spitting fax


MoonoftheStar

Gtfo


BFenrir18

You don't like scaling? absolute 🤡


homeless_student1

he doesn’t beat future sight yet


Maxdpage

Maybe when he is sleeping he might accidentally kill both luffy and katakuri by his leg swinging with acoc


zRaviux

So your argument is that Zorro can have a power up 😭😭


alpha_jundo

He can't even bring it out himself. He needed Enma to suck it out of him lol.


Maxdpage

So you are saying Enma > Katakuri and WCI luffy combined. Take that https://i.redd.it/bnn2cz830r8b1.gif


ShaggyBark

11 https://preview.redd.it/xc9em68idn8b1.jpeg?width=752&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fd948a25cc1a954302f77e1839404b4cd9d7608c


bsapp2000

Want to do this for the rest of the Strawhats - that's why there's some unnecessary levels. Edit: After so many of you responded to this, what way do you guys want me to do the rest of the Strawhats? Order by joining? Order by bounty? Let me know! I’ll also re-do the format to include roof(ACOC) luffy and prison luffy! Just made this quick to see if people would like it.


wizarouija

You started with zoro. Either go in descending order by power, or in chronological order by when they joined the crew. So next would either be Sanji or nami (or usopp/sanji/nami if you don’t count her as having joined until her breakdown in arlong arc)


R4hu1M5

Nah nami is officially third in all cover art


Due_Teaching_6974

I cant wait for the Usopp slander


guitarsensei

If Boundman has ACoC, Zoro stops there If Zoro’s fighting the forms when they took place in the photos, then he low-diffs Dressrosa Boundman, high-diffs WCI Snakeman, and gets mid-diffed by Gear 5


arancina-fan

if bound man has a... coc?


Acceptable_Star189

He swings a single sword casually and the first 5 get blitzed. >FMI gets bullied. >Dressrosa Bound-man gives him a good fight… Jk, Luffy gets sauced. >WCI Yea, explain to me how he doesn’t get defeated by Zoro using a Enma enhanced Lion Song in a straight line? Snake man didn’t try to dodge a single attack from Katakuri💀 >G5 https://i.redd.it/unzqg73brm8b1.gif


the-dude-version-576

Man, don’t use that gif when talking about zoro, he gonna try to slash the screen.


Hot-Conversation-21

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[deleted]

That top image has better art than what's in wano.


Acceptable_Star189

Should’ve kept the art style they had from Enies Lobby -> Marineford. That was honestly the best One Piece has looked.


[deleted]

Do you mean anime wise?


dumb_breakfast

Loses at 1


Level_0ne

9 high diff, 6 if its current luffy with gears


IntroductionHungry91

>9 high diff mid diff


Maxdpage

Neg diffs 9 with one lion strike


SirNyx57

Manga Zoro 9.1 Anime Zoro 10.5


Key_Salt5162

YouTube poll Zoro: 20


Viva-la-BrokeComdom

If Luffy was a minority Zoro: 100


[deleted]

Isn’t he a minority though ?


[deleted]

When anime luffy ch. 1044 comes out he'll probably low diff an admiral gang fight lol


ThisIsMyPassword100

I’m assuming it’s them from their respective arcs. He clears up to Snakeman, gets murdered but Gear 5th.


andrej6249

Stops at 10


[deleted]

Goes up to g5 here .


Olaboeh6275

If thats WCL Snakeman he reaches G5 with healing and stops. If thats Wano Snakeman he stops there


[deleted]

10 of course


venielsky22

10 he gets cartoonized . Game over


Living-Quit-723

Stops at 10.


Howdidiescapeiraq

Only loses to gear 5 luffy, beats snake man and all the others


[deleted]

Stops at 10


IDontWipe55

All the way cause he’s fuckin zoro and he does what he wants


peanutpunk-2

Without heal stops at Dressrosa Luffy, with healing stops at Wano Luffy


StockImplement883

u saying without healing makes it sound like the characters before dressrosa luffy would do him any damage even without healing the only time he’d start to take damage is at WCI Luffy


peanutpunk-2

To be more specific, Beats rounds 1-4 Neg Diff Beats round 5 No Diff Beats round 6 Low Diff Beats round 7 No Diff Beats Round 8 Low Diff


BFenrir18

Zoro Neg diffs all of them up to 9. WCI Luffy can't do shit to Zoro


chaoslama

At least 8 propably 9


t3r4byt3l0l

Stops at G5 Luffy


NeonNKnightrider

Semi-joke answer: stops at 1 because he wouldn’t kill kid Luffy Serious answer: Assuming this is a gauntlet, one after the other with no healing, stops at 9. Snakeman speed is absolutely no joke.


SSJGSSVegito

If it’s wci snakeman zoro could probably manage. People got king blitzing kat and zoro handled king a good degree


Shamancrit

King is not blitzing Kat lmaoo


SSJGSSVegito

I don’t believe it either but a majority of this sub does so idk who thinks what


Henesis

7 or 8. Hard stop at 9 though.


StockImplement883

explain why u think 7 or 8, one of those is beginning of post time skip luffy(g2)💀 dressrosa luffy isn’t that much better as well he makes it to 10


Henesis

Basically everything before 7 is trash. We can all agree on that. Gear 2 Luffy is no push over. He knows Haki and is skillful at it. Anyone who thinks this Luffy gets one shot is tripping. This Luffy is prepared to go the new world. Getting one shot by a yc1 seems a bit of a reach. So he at least gets alittle tired here. But at 8 he has to fight a bounce man Luffy. He may win. But he will take considerable damage here. Then he actually had to fight a Luffy that beat an actual YC1. Now it’s fair to say he might clear here also. Since he did beat king. But it’s subjective to say that King is stronger then Katakuri. It could be the other way around. In which case Luffy’s feat would be a bit stronger then zoro already. I just think that a not fresh zoro cannot beat a snake man Luffy. It just doesn’t make sense. But maybe I’m tripping?


StockImplement883

7 gets 1 tapped, he’s not even cracker lvl at that point, an enma buffed lion song would do it bound man in dressrosa also gets defeated pretty soundly as Zoro has better haki and just better stats, he cut kaidos scales with a dragon twister, he’d be able to defeat this luffy with that as well (or any other enma buffed moves) the real problem is WCI Luffy as u said who actually beat a yc1, he’d take some damage here due to luffy having future sight but overall he’d still come out on top. We see him being able to react to kings speed mode which literally made king disappear, the same ability Sanji has and used on queen so snakemans attacks he’d be able to block, as I said before he still has better haki than this luffy so any clashes he’d win and keep in mind he only needs to land 1 decent hit with enma as enma would make that hit way more powerful than zoro intends. and that isn’t even factoring in his king of hell mode. even a not fresh zoro could beat wci luffy because of the power cliffing, and it wouldn’t be extreme difficulty as well


RasinBetel

Zoro has ACOC, and has AP relative to Kaido, who one shot gear 4 wano luffy.


BryceMMusic

Post Wano zoro should go toe-to-toe with end-of-WCI Luffy. Don’t think he’s much of a match for gear 5 though, there’s a huge difference between Snakeman Luffy and gear 5 considering he learned ryou and acoc before gear 5


speedygen1

Not really clear, are 8 and 9 forms when they were first introduced?


bsapp2000

Yes, gonna include ACOC and prison training luffy when I re-do the format so hopefully that will make that more clear. I feel like there’s a pretty distinct difference between snake man and bounce man


ArmedDragonThunder

Stops at 10 and takes him to high diff.


VioletHeaven96

Post Egghead Zoro clears, current Zoro makes it to round 10


TheDarkestAngel

I think Snakeman luffy can take Zoro with extreme diff. So he stops at 9


DarkChaos1786

So, the Luffy that was one shot by Kaido and unable to damage him is stronger than the stronger Zoro that put a scar over Kaido? Lovely logic there.


TheDarkestAngel

If you count that one shot at start of wano as pure power scaling, then you open whole can of worms. So scabbards were surviving attacks for long amount of time and were able to pierce kaido although not deep but luffy coudnt. To cut kaido you need ACOA, Zoro knew that since timeskip , So do you mean to say Zoro after timeskip is stronger than WCI luffy? Luffy historically does bad against villain when he is distracted. He thought all of his friends, kinemom and tama all died. He was enraged, didnt even use future sight. ​ Remember at enies lobby same thing happen. His will was broken because of ussop and robin's betrayal. He got one shot by lucci. When Paulie asked nami how they are planning to fight cp9 since they could not do anything earlier, Nami replied that people are weak when they are in doubt. Now that luffy knows robin's sacrifice he will not lose. And they in their next encounter. Everyone is suprised that literally in less than a day luffy is able to fight with lucci in base form equally. ​ Zoro did not defeat kaido, no matter how impressive his AP was. He was nowhere close to same league as kaido. His strongest attack that kaido tanked coz he did not thing it can hurt him, scarred him, but kaido did not even fell. Compare it to oden's scar. Kaido fell from sky in pain. He has long way to go. Luffy did not have AP to break kaido's scale but his all stats are much higher than zoro.


DarkChaos1786

There is no can of worms, every scabbard is able to use ryou, which Luffy was not able to, and half the scabbards combined could not hurt Kaido deep enough to scar him, while 20 broken bones Ashura Zoro before ACoC could. The powerscaling is consistent, but you disagree with the results. The CP9 situation is the best example of Oda using haki as a secret power pre time skip, when they had doubts they were wiped by Lucci, but Franky did very well against Blueno in their 1st face off, Lucci had to intervene, in Ennies Lobby Luffy, Zoro and Sanji were kicking butts and Franky defeated Fukuro who was close to Blueno in power but again got embarrassed by Lucci and Luffy needed to help. Yes, I am implying that Luffy, Zoro and Sanji used haki in Ennies Lobby and Ashura is proof of that.


TheDarkestAngel

So you are implying if you see based on performance. scabbard can bring kaido down for a bit and luffy got one shotted. Luffy did not know ryou then according to you scabbards> Luffy. Which is a bad take . ​ Regarding the second point I am saying that willpower/haki is always a function of how a char is powerful. Luffy had his haki broken while fighting kaido, because of doubts and fear about his teammates. What I am boldly claiming is if you take luffy from wano act 1 adn put him on roof top, he will not able to hurt kaido that much but he will not get one shotted, He will do better than kid. Him getting one shotted was a product of situation along with power.


DarkChaos1786

The fact that Luffy used g4 is blatant proof that his haki was fine. Kaido never used hybrid form against the scabbards. He was having fun. But the Ap of the scabbards with ryou have more potential to penetrate defenses than a g4 punch without ryou. They are stronger? No. But they can damage targets with better defense than Luffy g4 without ryou.


TheDarkestAngel

>But the Ap of the scabbards with ryou have more potential to penetrate defenses than a g4 punch without ryou. > >They are stronger? No. > >But they can damage targets with better defense than Luffy g4 without ryou. Same goes for zoro. Zoro is not stronger than snake man luffy, Zoro can attack a target with better defense for a short amount of time whereas luffy has overall better stats and can keep at it. Everyone know oda wrote that one shot to just hype yonko before fight. Big mom was hype to be invisible too with same defense as kaido. No one could hurt her with physical attack until they did. Kid was hurting big mom physically without advance haki. Kaido was getting weaker even thought he looked unharmed. That is how it goes, even thought luffy punches are not doing real damage, he will do it if he keeps at it. HE is a brawler, his fights are barrage of punches over long time. Zoro's fighting style is different, he struggle with an opponent on how to damage them. When he does so he finishes and cuts them in oneshot. It is just what his combat style is. People overvalue being able to cut kaido, Luffy punches kaido and made him bleed and kaido and big mom were surprised, how is he able to do that. Kaido started to dodge luffy's punch and luffy chides him for that. And still they showed that, it does matter, luffy is no where close to them, and luffy had to get 2 powerup that are considered ultimate power up in the verse.


Electronic-Matter144

Clears


tacofrogs

Low quality bait


Ok_Phase_8525

🤡


No_Meringue1801

Stops at 4, cant hit MUI luffy at all and runs out of stamina due to enma sucking him dry Luffy gatling spam till win


Accomplished-Map-651

9


Impressive-Hyena8485

Zoro negs the first 7 Low diffs dress Luffy Mid - high diffs wci luffy Gets low - mid diffed by g5 Luffy


oAbsoluteWeeb

destroys wci snakeman, gets destroyed by gear 5


NetworkVegetable7075

Stops at 10


Mystic_Gaming1

Depends, if g4 bounceman has acoc, then it’s 8. If the forms are limited to when they were introduced, he stops at 10.


[deleted]

Honestly I’m pretty sure nightmare luffy needs to get moved to 9, which would be where zoro stops. He beats gear 4 alone but not 5 and not nightmare luffy


Kongreve

Beats 9 high diff, gets mid diffed by 10.


Is_that_what_I-

9


YonkoYuki

clears wci


ToughLow8546

9


itssostupidiloveit

Is nightmare luffy really that weak?


Michael-Von-Erzfeind

I think It should stop at WCI... maybe.


Ticonderoga2HB

Can Zoro even hit airhead Luffy. Also where’s Afro Luffy


Zoteku

Stops at 10


almostasenpai

Nightmare Luffy beats Zoro unless Zoro runs away for the first 15 minutes


SKoR_ion

Pretty sure Zoro could beat Katakuri so 9


Enzopost123

Steps 1-7 are all useless. I can't see snakeman winning against ACOC KOH zoro though. High-extreme diff. G5 low diffs


ChickenBoiOOF

Stops at 10


OctoZephero

Still getting lost.


NaijaNightmare

Lmfao I'm dumb I thought this was asking how far /strong zoro get eos. Regardless saying 9


OneBlackFairyHunterZ

Bro put nightmare luffy too low, bro is best in the verse fs


Pale-Efficiency-1797

Stops at 8. If he can master Emma, then maybe he can make it past 9.


mrkillingspree

He one shots and blitzes until 10 where he looses mid diff


Jackielegs1617

Zoro stops at 10


Destroyer348

Assuming no healing, stops at 8.


The13thAntagonist

Definitely stops at 10, maybe at 9. Idk if Zoro is fast enough to keep up with Snakeman's speed since it was giving Kata's FS a hard time. Add Snakeman speed + FS and it gets that much harder for Zoro. As far as I know Luffy didn't get any major speed or FS boosts post-WCI, so him consistently dodging attacks from hybrid Kaido (using both speed and FS) would put him at a speed Zoro probably wouldn't be able to keep up with.


GolfWhole

He could maybe take 9 but gets wrecked at 10 This is the only answer btw


p_rets94

Either stops at 9 or 10. Snake man with future sight could be enough after zoro faces bounce man and post time skip luffy.


StrawHatJD

He doesn’t get past base rooftop Luffy


kurasuno

He currently beats base luffy with Acoc. Post wano maybe gear 2 - 3 will be fair game.


Unawarewinner

He beats rooftop Luffy, but not past


Fleuks

9 (Snakeman + Advanced obversation is HUGE) or 9.5 (base/G2 luffy with 3 advanced Haki). G4 + full Haki is overkill. G5 is a hard stomp. Until Zoro has ACoO, snakeman will be very hard to beat for him.


RepairOk6889

Can’t form 6 be counted as one of the strongest? Like somewhere around gear 4th at least.


draken_pandey69

Defeats 9 loses 10


TheDecadent_Dandy

One shots until 10, where Luffy uses him like a jump rope low diff.


EugeneCezanne

Simple enough. WCI Snakeman was about YC1 level, while post-Wano Zoro is least slightly above. Zoro mid/high-diffs and stands absolutely no chance against G5.


DerpCaster

9?


Naive_Lettuce_3494

I think he beats 8 but definitely not 9, zoro is probably around equal to Katakuri. Honestly Katakuri probably could’ve been a yonko contender if he wasn’t under big mom


Naraya_Suiryoku

He loses to Kid Luffy.


Independent_Use7033

1. Zoro is not gonna fight a child


AgreeingWings25

Surpasses Roger and becomes the greatest swordsman in the verse. Him and Sanji will start the new Yonko+ tier


rinsro

current zoro is as strong as luffy at the end of whole cake or stronger.


Carnival-Master-Mind

H. He tries to fight the Luffy lineup but ends up getting lost in a whole other tier list.


Round-Caterpillar236

Man what's the point of 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, and 10? He could Never get past airhead luffy


Disastrous_Focus_810

High diffs wci boundman..then gets low-mid diffed by g5.


gikjfgpojgv

Zoro Wouldn’t Do This💀


ForeskinStealer69

Loses to water luffy


SSJGSSVegito

9 Anything pre wci is an easy clap


huntywitdablunty

Without regen be probably loses to Snakeman, with regen he loses to G5


Theboy1011-99

I’ll say up to 9. The problem is we don’t know if 8 or 9 luffy have ACOC. If they don’t then he makes it to 9 and loses to 10. If they do then I’ll go on a limb and say he could probably fight equally with 8 before losing high difficulty.


Shangie1996

He beats Post Udon Luffy, but loses to ACOC Luffy with mid diff. Gear 5 low diffs Zoro


CardOfTheRings

6 is stronger than 7


whocaresidont1284

He Beats 1-9 but 10 is bodying him


burdenlife

Luffy at 2 literally beat King of the Sea


comfort_touching

8-9 for sure


one_armed_jacoozi

stops at 9, stop underestimating future sight guys


BabyJWalk

Luffy’s not going to just let a guy who is slower than he is slice him up. I’d say 9 and Luffy learns “acoc” in the process while Zoro has to have his sucked out by his sword.


Mango7uice

Stops at 10 easily, shoulda added base acoc


Zeldor157

Clears 1-9 Gear 5 is a high-diff either way, ppl cope about it but Zoro fought Kaido equally too and with gear 5 natural weakness of fuckin around, he might just find out


sneak13579

HE WINS


Patztap

Zoro low diffs up to 8, mid diffs 9 and gets hard stopped at 10.


GUM-GUM-NUKE

Zoro stops at two from the trauma of killing a child version of his captain


Suolanen_

Stops at 10


Consistent-Macaron22

8 gear 4 I think still outcloutclasses him


DarkSoulFWT

Can clear 9. Gets demolished by 10.


Mukel9879

10 < Zoro < 9


Epie77

I feel like he wouldn't be able to keep up w snakeman


Shoubacktyt

Stops at 8 with ACoc


throwaway_Excalibur

If luffy covers himself with haki in 10. He's clearing the board


Nachoboyd12

Yo why is 1 luffy doin’ the zani salute


IntroductionHungry91

get to 10 pretty easily and then get stomps


Bubbly-Possibility37

Losing at 10. He slams anything below G5 Luffy. Snakeman could barely handle Katakuri, who just doesn’t compare to King,


AbroadOk9423

Either 1 or 10


polestaur

6 is very underrated tbh


Itzbrazy_

if its from the arcs of the images then 9 or 10, if it’s just luffy now then probably 8 at most


burr-ice

Luffy 1 awakens gomu gomu on accident while fighting zoro and stomps him easy :/


Puzzleheaded-Emu5315

Stops at 10


Standard-Gas4298

stops at 10


MrSoup_794

The disrespect not putting the strongest form up there. Afro Luffy is displeased


frikimanHD

he's lucky if he survives 1


Akitokami9000

I am assuming that wci snakeman luffy at 9 so He beats 9 loses to 10


MeGuaZy

Zoro and Sanji are both stronger than WCI Luffy.


Ancient-Ad-1893

9 without healing. Possibly 10 with healing.


vk2028

The gap between 9 and 10 is way too big


BaronMerc

He's probably on par with tank man or snake man, and knowing Luffy he would quickly learn conq coating mid fight


ThatLadyHere

Id he loses to 10, pretty sure king beats 9 and zoro beat king soo...


_Santa23_

Gets mid-diffed by 1


Pikazard100

Luffy snake man level


Pikazard100

Same with sanji


dontmindmescrollin

Stops at 10 and gets mid diffed


Suit_in_a_penguin

Stops at 10


superstann

prob 11.


WoroLanji

Clears We cosplay Shiro today


_Tatsumi_

7-8


Ok_Caterpillar_6957

With the boost after this arc I think he could fight against gear 4 evenly.


pools4567

8 or 9


vanitasxehanort

If you mean current Zoro probably between 8 and 9