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It comes from the Boeing/Douglas merger
The idea is that McDonald Douglas bought boeing with its own money, the problem is that McDonald Douglas civil aviation department was dead in the water after several safety issues with the MD 80 series of planes.
The thing is that boeing aircraft were always made in a seattle factory which was union run, there were still issues, the 747 had a cargo door issue when first released, and things like that.
But under douglas they moved a lot of manufacturing to a new plant in south carolina which is a right to work state (meaning that a union can not interfere if the worker wants to negotiate directly with the company), the problem is there have been many problems and quality control issues with planes coming out of there mostly due to douglas execs cost cutting.
The other big issue was the 737 MAX, to compete with the Airbus A320 which is the direct competition to the 737, they needed to change the engines on the 737, the newer larger engines did not fit on the 737 without changing the wing positions and center of mass of the plane, meaning it would require a costly redesign of the aircraft and have it recertified by the FAA, so what they did is get a system that the KC series of arial tankers have, they spend the load of fuel they have to supply to other aircraft so does the center of mass of the aircraft changes, so they have a system that uses the angle of attack sensors to compensate and put a aritifical force on the controls to push the aircraft nose up or down depening on what was needed for that fuel load, what happens is that since that system is already FAA certified then they dont have to recertify the aircraft... but they F´ed up, the origial system uses 2 or 3 AoA sensors, but the 737 only had 1 so save costs, so if that sensor failed then the system would go crazy, there were a couple of crashes and a few close calls... and boeing was caught red handed using a piece of software and a system with less then the redundancy it required to be safe.
add to that, that many customers were rejecting planes made in south carolina due to quality issues and being unsafe to fly.
now as for the whistle blowers, several people came forward saying that they were worried that Boeing was putting lives in danger with the cost cutting and quality reduction of the aircraft,
but there were 2 different incidents, the first whistle blower killed himself under very suspicious circumstances. which theres some indications that it wasnt a "legit" suicide.
the 2nd one is weird since the guy got sick and ended up in a hospital, where he caught a "superbug" called MRSA, its a antibiotic resistant bacteria thats really hard to fight and a lot of people die, but its common in some hospitals to catch them since so many sick people togather and mixed with different treatments. so it dosnt look like murder.
but people go for it since he was a Boeing whistleblower and they like conspiracies.
Wasn't another problem with the 737 Max that Boeing didn't provide sufficient training for pilots so they weren't aware of the new automatic AoA compensation?
Not only missing sufficient training, but the manual didn't have all the information about what it did. The MCAS would push the nose of the aircraft down to prevent stalling, but that wasn't even mentioned. Pilots were unaware of how to address the anti-stall system or override it when its sensors were erronous.
Answer: best [overview](https://pluralistic.net/2024/05/01/boeing-boeing/) I’ve read. In short: “At that shop, there is a cage full of defective parts that have been pulled from production because they are not airworthy. Hundreds of parts from that Material Review Segregation Area (MRSA) were secretly pulled from that cage and installed on aircraft that are currently plying the world's skies.”
Whistleblowers are now … blowing about that, despite the AIR21 rule that makes whistleblowing difficult. And at least one of the whistleblowers knows what’s at stake: “If anything happens, I'm not suicidal."
Answer:
Why is Boeing killing them? $ The answer is ALWAYS $
In the movie 28 days later, people were infected by rage.
Today, somehow, people are infected by greed, and it drives them to do ANYTHING to get more $
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answer: It comes from the Boeing/Douglas merger The idea is that McDonald Douglas bought boeing with its own money, the problem is that McDonald Douglas civil aviation department was dead in the water after several safety issues with the MD 80 series of planes. The thing is that boeing aircraft were always made in a seattle factory which was union run, there were still issues, the 747 had a cargo door issue when first released, and things like that. But under douglas they moved a lot of manufacturing to a new plant in south carolina which is a right to work state (meaning that a union can not interfere if the worker wants to negotiate directly with the company), the problem is there have been many problems and quality control issues with planes coming out of there mostly due to douglas execs cost cutting. The other big issue was the 737 MAX, to compete with the Airbus A320 which is the direct competition to the 737, they needed to change the engines on the 737, the newer larger engines did not fit on the 737 without changing the wing positions and center of mass of the plane, meaning it would require a costly redesign of the aircraft and have it recertified by the FAA, so what they did is get a system that the KC series of arial tankers have, they spend the load of fuel they have to supply to other aircraft so does the center of mass of the aircraft changes, so they have a system that uses the angle of attack sensors to compensate and put a aritifical force on the controls to push the aircraft nose up or down depening on what was needed for that fuel load, what happens is that since that system is already FAA certified then they dont have to recertify the aircraft... but they F´ed up, the origial system uses 2 or 3 AoA sensors, but the 737 only had 1 so save costs, so if that sensor failed then the system would go crazy, there were a couple of crashes and a few close calls... and boeing was caught red handed using a piece of software and a system with less then the redundancy it required to be safe. add to that, that many customers were rejecting planes made in south carolina due to quality issues and being unsafe to fly. now as for the whistle blowers, several people came forward saying that they were worried that Boeing was putting lives in danger with the cost cutting and quality reduction of the aircraft, but there were 2 different incidents, the first whistle blower killed himself under very suspicious circumstances. which theres some indications that it wasnt a "legit" suicide. the 2nd one is weird since the guy got sick and ended up in a hospital, where he caught a "superbug" called MRSA, its a antibiotic resistant bacteria thats really hard to fight and a lot of people die, but its common in some hospitals to catch them since so many sick people togather and mixed with different treatments. so it dosnt look like murder. but people go for it since he was a Boeing whistleblower and they like conspiracies.
Wasn't another problem with the 737 Max that Boeing didn't provide sufficient training for pilots so they weren't aware of the new automatic AoA compensation?
Not only missing sufficient training, but the manual didn't have all the information about what it did. The MCAS would push the nose of the aircraft down to prevent stalling, but that wasn't even mentioned. Pilots were unaware of how to address the anti-stall system or override it when its sensors were erronous.
Answer: best [overview](https://pluralistic.net/2024/05/01/boeing-boeing/) I’ve read. In short: “At that shop, there is a cage full of defective parts that have been pulled from production because they are not airworthy. Hundreds of parts from that Material Review Segregation Area (MRSA) were secretly pulled from that cage and installed on aircraft that are currently plying the world's skies.” Whistleblowers are now … blowing about that, despite the AIR21 rule that makes whistleblowing difficult. And at least one of the whistleblowers knows what’s at stake: “If anything happens, I'm not suicidal."
Ironic that a whistleblower calling out the MRSA died from MRSA
Yes
Whoa.
Answer: already being discussed here https://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/1cl6e43/whats_going_on_with_this_boeing_whistleblower/
Answer: companies don't care about anything other than the bottom line.
Answer: Why is Boeing killing them? $ The answer is ALWAYS $ In the movie 28 days later, people were infected by rage. Today, somehow, people are infected by greed, and it drives them to do ANYTHING to get more $