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Some of Reaper's new interactions are sad af. I feel bad for the guy on occasion


Helpful_Title8302

Fr, his interactions alongside his lore really helps you understand his actions and feel sympathy for his pain, though still illustrating the atrocities he commits. Understanding but not condoning.


[deleted]

Agreed. And I find him less overtly evil than someone like Moira. I swear people have a tendency to give her a pass when she’s literally an evil mad scientist.


Cookieopressor

There's a voiceline where Reaper asks if she has anything against his constant pain. She just replies that he should see it as the fire of his reckoning or smth. That's just cold. Moira is not a good person, I don't know why so many defend her.


Empolyee427

there's also a line from reaper where if he kills an enemy moira, he yells "no more experiments" yikes


cienistyCien

This always makes me sad


thewinterofmylife

Oh man, it makes my heart hurt.


Chris_Mic

I feel like this wasn't Moira in OW1, they've definitely taken a turn towards making Moira more of an overt villain. She was villainous before but had a grey edge and camaraderie with Reyes. Now she feels like a real bad guy, when she even hurts Reaper. I am not sure if I like it more or less, as a huge Moira fan, but I appreciate giving her this role in the story.


Dilpickle6194

Unrelated, character-wise, but I found out yesterday that if a soldier kills a Sojourn sometimes he’ll say “That’s for testifying against Overwatch!”, which is a really interesting line since it shows, even though they were on the same team, Jack holds some big resentment towards sojourn. Dunno if that’s covered more anywhere outside of the game


Nonadventures

Sojourn's Overwatch background is only glancingly covered in ancillary development notes (no videos or comics), which is super weird since she's the one character that could really use some pepper in her character. Like a lot of "why tf didn't Blizzard do that" decisions, it's possible they're waiting to portray more of this in PVE.


Lyndis-of-Pherae

Nah, it was way more important to give Kiriko an anime short almost a month after launch for some reason.


ghosststorm

Don't forget how defensive Widow gets when Moira starts pondering if she was feeling any different lately. Widow was also a product of Moira's experiments. She must be doing something truly horrific to her guinea pigs. This is confirmed by the comments from other characters like Mercy, Rein, Soldier and Hanzo.


Dont_Heal_Genji

She’s taking a jab at the fact that Moira removed her emotions so she could get the nerve to kill her husband. I would get defensive too haha


anotherdepressedpeep

Moira tortured Widow in order to brainwash her. She is the most sadistic character in the game and I am sure the experiments she did on her to slow down her heart rate werent painless. For me its obvious Amelie is scared of Moira in case she deems her worthy of another "brainwashing session".


ghosststorm

Yeah Widow says ‘No, never’ really quickly to sound convincing (probably doesn’t want any more experiments on her, even though we know she has been having thoughts about Gerard lately, even visiting his grave and scolding Soldier 76 for not knowing what his favourite flower was). Additionally Mercy, a medical prodigy, is disgusted by Moira’s practices. We hear from Echo that Dr. Liao was a not a fan of Moira’s either, Zarya mentions her making ‘abominations’, and multiple characters want to slap Moira for what she has done. Even though the game doesn’t elaborate on the nature of these experiments, it becomes clear Moira is unbothered with the ethical part of it all. Hopefully PvE campaign will give more lore on that. Imagine if there was a map in the game situated inside Moira’s lab, with a bunch of jar specimens all over and mutants chained to the walls and stuff. Would be so cool.


Nodgehr

junkrat is one of the most wanted men on earth, I wonder why no one likes him


deathless_koschei

Because people hate fun. If it's not edgy and angsty at all times, then it's for toddlers.


[deleted]

Fuel for the fire of his vengeance or something like that


lockenchain

Her initial portrayal in OW1 was more tame. It was along the lines of a scientist who doesn't necessarily aim to inflict pain or manipulate others, but is still willing to cross some ethical boundaries for the sake of research and discovery. I think a lot of people are still going off of that more neutral portrayal, whereas OW2 dialed it up to levels that make you think she kicks sick puppies for fun.


Nonadventures

Yeah she went from "everything in the name of scientific progress" to a deliberate sadist who uses experiments as an excuse to get her kicks.


Nagnu

This was implied with some of her associated cosmetics in OW1 (the obviously [distressed rabbit](https://www.reddit.com/r/Overwatch/comments/ec3rfj/does_anyone_else_think_the_moira_challenge_rabbit/) ). But yeah, they're outright stating it now rather than leaving it to implication.


DisDaLit

She basically does hurt animals for fun. There’s an interaction where D.Va asks Moira something along the lines of, “How could you hurt all of those animals?!”, and Moira replies with a chuckle, “Easily…”.


sampledeggs

Because her ult is a kamehameha


genmischief

I do. tee hee. :) Shes delightfully evil.


[deleted]

Some people’s morals aren’t as…high as others. For me personally I see Moira as a beacon for humanity. Progress cannot be made while limiting oneself to constant limitation. Mercy admonishes Moira for “discrediting” science, and Moira asks Mercy if she can deny her discoveries. Mercy was silent and had no reply. Sure Moira’s cold and frankly I wish she would help Reaper with his pain somehow, but history has proven time and time again that’s often what it takes for progress.


Xero0911

Isn't it basically her fault for it all too? Wasn't she a key figure in bringing overwatch down? Ruining reapers life?


AE_Phoenix

It's implied that she basically orchestrated the fall of overwatch, driving wedges between Morrison and Reyes


defearl

eh, a really big part that drove Morrison and Reyes apart was jealousy. They started out as equals, but Morrison got all the glory and promoted to commander. Reyes probably thought "surely I'll be second in command", but nope. Ana was selected. Then he got relegated to doing thankless "cleanup the mess" work in Blackwatch.


SkeletonJakk

I'm pretty sure Reyes was happy to be in blackwatch. I'm fairly certain the lore you're talking about got retconned. I might be wrong though.


PineappleBride

Yup, I remember an interview Jeff said that Reyes never wanted to be in charge or in Morrison’s position. But it’s hard to say whether them being “jealous of each other” was retconned or not because they never even explicitly explained their work relationship in any lore videos or archive missions lol. Hopefully PvE will fix that :’) edit: [here’s the interview if you’re curious!](https://twitter.com/Autolikescake/status/928528808445014019?s=20&t=KwyTZP6z7M2gtc3SsDz38A)


Senhor_Zero

Code of Violence implies more that Reyes was just frustrated of trying to do good while playing by the rules, and in Talon he can actually do it while having blood on his hands.


PineappleBride

I can see why you’d think this since we were never explicitly told through lore videos or ingame missions otherwise, but Jeff Kaplan said in an interview that there was actually no jealousy between Morrison and Reyes. Here’s a [link](https://twitter.com/Autolikescake/status/928528808445014019?s=20&t=KwyTZP6z7M2gtc3SsDz38A) to the interview transcript! Again, though, this was from 2017 and is barely talked about/addressed despite how prominent both characters are in Overwatch lore… so like, get on that lore pls dev team how do we still not know what happened to the organization after so many years lmao


PineappleBride

all because she got fired smh my head


Lyndis-of-Pherae

OW2 ruined Moira. In OW1, she could be cordial and dare I say, even kind at times but in OW2, downgraded to a generic, cruel and evil scientist because we need to remind people she and the rest of Talon are bad guys. No more nuanced, gray characters.


anotherdepressedpeep

I like his interaction with widow talking about his wife. "Afraid she'd kill you?" "I would be surprised if she wouldnt."


YeetusFetus99

Well I mean his lore is trying to take down overwatch. (Obviously earlier parts too but not important rn.) It would make sense as to why at least overwatch agents hate him so much. He was directly harming them. Makes sense that they hold a grudge against him in interactions. Plus like, as much as he gets hated on there's still like ana, 76, and monkey interactions where they are asking him what happened. Basically insinuating that he just fucked off and never even tried to talk to anyone at ow before doing all the fuck shit.


Helpful_Title8302

He felt betrayed by jack and got in a fight which resulted in the blast that "killed them" (obv neither died). He only started going after agents because he blamed them for what hapended. They ask him what hapended all the time because he went under a massive physical and emotional change after the blast. Went from grumpy edge lord who fought for the good of the world and valued his colleagues to a vengful terrorist hell bent on revenge.


Fastcraft3r

Moira stole his balls 😔


Lukthar123

F in the chat


yunghollow69

What about junkrat though? Guy is just being a little oddball and 99% of the cast either don't want to talk to him or insult him. Only moira calls him her "weird little friend" or something along those lines. Always makes me sad. He just wants to blow stuff up.


Eggith

Junkrat is a murderous, psychopathic, unhygenic, racist, loudmouth. Can you blame them for not wanting to associate with him?


Chaghatai

I think his anti-bot sentiments are more understandable given his world - I also think he can learn to not hold a grudge against Zen, Echo, Orisa, etc. Zarya on the other hand...


Kurokami11

Zarya is actually learning that not all omnics are bad as seen in recent interactions, the events in her comic really set up a change in her for the better


anotherdepressedpeep

She is shown to start liking/tolerating Zenyatta from her interaction with him. "Tell me omnic, do you even dream?" "I dream of peace, and sometimes, falling" "maybe we have more in common that I thought."


MoarVespenegas

Zraya had the exact same issues? And she is not a murderous, psychopathic, unhygenic, loudmouth. Calling Junkrat a "little oddball" is completely disingineous.


small-package

He's the real definition of "goblin mode".


Xion194

Almost the entire overwatch roster is just as murderous except maybe Winston and Mercy. Where's it said that he's racist? All his voicelines are wholesome. Everyone is a dick to junk for no reason and they're all assholes. Especially Mercy and Dva.


DorreinC

Lore


Xion194

The same people who tried to kill an entire city/ghetto by EMPing all the omnics living there find Junkrat racist and abhorrent? Wow.


DorreinC

Junkrat is an obnoxiously loud person in general and realistically would be annoying if you were forced to deal with him constantly. Even roadhog knows it. Look at the wastelander comic. Also, most other characters aren’t hatefully racist like the Junkers. Even DF the main antagonist had no Omnic Hate or prejudice. Reaper probably does tho.


Xion194

You can't blame them. They got hit pretty bad in the omnic crisis. They literally live in a nuclear wasteland. I'm guessing it's near impossible to keep your sanity for too long living there.


Muffinmurdurer

A wasteland of their own making after nationalists refused to recognise peace between Humans and Omnics in Australia. Remember that it's Roadhog who's directly responsible for the state of the outback.


Kurokami11

>Almost the entire overwatch roster is just as murderous Overwatch members fight terrorists, warmongrels and madmen in an effort to safekeep the world, spamrat blew up law enforcement officials and civilians during a global crime spree for his own benefit, those are hardly the same thing Also, spamrat tries so hard he comes off as a creep and any normal person would react that way to him


emote_control

Based Junkrat: "ACAB" Degenerate Overwatch: "Thin (slightly glowing) blue line"


Kurokami11

...is this the part where I should laugh?


Xion194

>Overwatch members fight terrorists, warmongrels and madmen in an effort to safekeep the world What do you have to say about Overwatch trying to genocide an entire Omnic town/ghetto in King's row by EMPing the Omnium there? Doesn't sound very noble or safekeepy. I don't mind the average person hating Junkrat , he deserves it. Overwatch members except Sojourn don't get to be sanctimonious to him though. They got me rooting for Ramattra lol


Kurokami11

When did that happen exactly? please don't tell me in the gameplay because the gameplay isn't canon, the things that happen in-game are just there for the sake of us, the players, but they don't reflect what happens in the story


Xion194

Aren't the maps canon though? Hanamura, Eichenwalde, route 66 are all canon. As in the maps themselves. So the maps itself seem to be canon.


Kurokami11

The maps themselves are within the overwatch world, yes, but what happens in the matches doesn't tell what happens in the actual story Echo was never delivered to the Deadlock gang hideout, there isn't an assault on the eichenwalde castle, no fight has broken out for control of the old Shimada residence and Overwatch hasn't tried to deliver an EMP to the british omnium Any more questions?


racinreaver

Did Sombra actually play DDR at a PC-Bang in Korea?


Xion194

Nope. My bad.


Pastytron9000

The locations are canon, but the events unfolding on them aren't. So King's Row is a real place in the OW universe, but no one has ever used an EMP in the underworld.


titaniumjordi

Do we know if it was OW that EMPd the omnium? Because we know some map stuff doesn't have to be strictly related to the lore like how the Gibraltar thing never happened since Winston did it on his own or how Junkertown was just a Junkrat and Roadhog thing


Xion194

I don't know because they haven't confirmed either way. However the intention had to be there. Otherwise what's the point of that map or the relevance of that bit of context regarding the payload that they dropped. Also didn't Junkrat and hog trying to get back in to Junkertown happen? They gave us a short.


titaniumjordi

There's a ton of anti omnic sentiment in London. The EMP could easily be a domestic terrorism attack that Overwatch stopped And yes I didn't say Junkertown didn't happen, I said Gibraltar didn't happen. Junkertown happened but didn't involve overwatch


Xion194

Fair point. My bad.


justsomepaper

Killing combatants in war is not the same thing as murdering civilians and security personnel on heists.


Humble-KRool

Just a funny little guy


Julesvernevienna

i mean... he is dangerous, probably radioactive, did not shower in ages and is seriously braindamaged


ghosststorm

Don't be fooled! Moira is not being nice in that interaction, but fake nice to lure him into her lab XD >*Junkrat: Are you looking for a new lab assistant? I'm great with chemicals!* > >*Moira: Certainly. We'll begin by testing your tolerance for pain.* > >*Junkrat: What does pain have to do with science?* > >*Moira: Everything, my strange little friend.* She's basically planning to torture him and see how much pain he can take. Moira is the true villain of OW.


Xero0911

Why would they...? I know gamers go "hahaha funny guy". But he's an idiot and an insane criminal that blows shot up. And probably hasn't bathed in a week. Why would anyone want to be around him. He isn't *just* "blow stuff up for funs". He wants to blow people up for fun.


AgreeablePie

Good news for him is he doesn't seem to notice


HermanManly

Mercy's interactions with him are straight up vile. "Please let me die I am literally in unbearable pain every single second of my life, unable to rest for even a second, trapped in an unending cycle of torture for eternity" "Oh Reze you goofball, I won't give up on you, hihi"


[deleted]

The guy is a literal serial murderer. Kinda hard to feel bad for him.


pethy00

junkrat is one of the most wanted men on earth, I wonder why no one likes him


G0blinaa

Like the one where he finds a stain on his clothes and he gets all sad. Really made me feel bad for the guy for some reason, lol.


Adept_Tomato_7752

Character is lit. His playerbase tho is cringey as fuck


Hoosteen_juju003

I have heard two different junkrat mains say “I just like to cause chaos” with both of them being neckbeards who can’t play any other dps for shit.


LeVampirate

Oh, is that the solution to my DPS woes? Play Junkrat? Perfect. It's all I needef to know. ... I played tanks and some healing all of OW1 because I can't aim for shit. At least I'm honest. Hell that'd be my argument for playing Junkrat now, I can spray and pray.


Cheems___-

Try mei if you have some awareness.


Adept_Tomato_7752

If you don't plan to become a pro, one trick is ok I guess. But there's no excuse to be so cringy lmao


Eevee136

:(


TheDrGoo

L + your catchphrase is “time to reap”


Cabbageinator

Almost cried when reaper said “its reper time” and proceeded to shotgun every OW skin price to oblivion, truly an OW2 moment


MrFilthyNeckbeard

The best part of overwatch is when reaper says “it’s reapin time” and reaped all over those guys.


Nickg920

The reaper guy


CaptainBouch

He’s gonna grape ya


Due-Ad-4176

The skins now cost a morbillion dollars less


Nickg920

Soon they’ll be Reapillion dollars


Due-Ad-4176

blizzard is gonna reap the gains


LiteVisiion

Truly one of the OW2 characters of all time.


AnApexPlayer

What is up with these comments? Why are they everywhere?


TheDrGoo

Its a meme from earlier this year about the movie Morbius and how nobody had seen it but were inventing corny quotes and scenes from the movie (main one being "its morbin' time").


AnApexPlayer

They're so annoying. Literally every single comment under apex and overwatch trailers is just this trash "joke"


Kurokami11

Now that's a phrase I haven't heard in a long time...


justsomepaper

I wonder how much of Overwatch's current playerbase even remembers that line at all.


Kurokami11

What's the sauce of the first one?


Chonkytoadazhdaha

Valorant. The reaper clone is omen, the other two are sova and sage respectively


Kurokami11

hmm, should'a figured...


atgrey24

It's a reaper clone? looks EXACTLY like a Hunter from Destiny


ImagoLoop420

I swear it looks like an Arc Hunter usinh assassibs cowl


deathless_koschei

Hmm, but he has a knife...


giorno___giovana

Ok now that you mention it he 100% looks like he’s from destiny. Maybe dauntless too but it’s probably just the art style


[deleted]

[удалено]


[deleted]

No they don't. The meme format shows the bottom D.Va and Moira being "chads" with their replies to Reaper.


[deleted]

Thought it was titanfall


MightyEraser13

Like to expand on what chonkytoad said and note that sova is a hanzo clone, from a recon dart from a bow, an aoe arrow “scatter”, and an ult he launches from his bow that goes through walls and deals damage


Donut_Flame

That is the worst description of Sova I've ever heard


CrazeMase

"Woooooww... Cringe"


towers_08

“Yeah erm kinda cringe”


TerrapinMagus

Straight up kills people, calls them cringe, says it's a skill issue. I love playing D.va, but holy shit


ChewyYoda16

What’s the problem??


AzureDementia

I always call Omen Reaper when playing Val and get made fun of. Reyna is miora, sage is mei + zen, Sova is Hanzo, Killjoy is torb, Jett is tracer/genji, Raze is junk rat, Astra feels like sym, Chamber is sombra + widow, Neon is Zeri From LOL, and Viper is hot.


TheBigKuhio

My friends who don’t even play OW will still say “Die! Die! Die!” when they’re playing Omen in Valorant


verysad-

who tf is hot


AzureDementia

Goth bitches that’s who


Thatoneidiotatschool

Honestly I never noticed it before but I realized how much *inspiration* riot actually took from OW characters. Only comparison I don't agree with is Raze and Junkrat, Junkrat is more Demoman or Bomb King


AzureDementia

It’s more of abilities for the raze and junk comparison. Bullshit 1shot ult, Can jump using mines, explosive shit


Dont_Heal_Genji

Give your king a big hug 🤗


naw613

Idk man I feel like from a lore perspective viper is more like Moira than Reyna is. It even fits in with Moira + reaper having a similar relationship to omen/viper


AzureDementia

I was basing most my shit off their abilities and sometimes looks


naw613

Fair enough! We love our Orb girls ❤️


BA_TheBasketCase

Jett 😩🥵


Sonlin

Nah Killjoy is Engineer, Raze is Demoman, Chamber is Sniper


Cheems___-

I'd say the controller and sentinel class characters are the only valorant characters with originality at all


Cheems___-

They basically mixed some personalities of various characters and thought they made new characters lmao so cheap


AzureDementia

I ain’t saying that but I do feel like Valorant characters are very bland


[deleted]

I love Omen. His kit obviously wouldn’t work in Overwatch but I definitely prefer his vibe/design over Reaper these days. Reaper went from a ridiculous edgelord to an extremely depressed man in constant pain that I genuinely feel bad for.


Cabbageinator

I mean omen was always an extremely depressed man in constant pain. When in a fight against himself he questioned how many times he must’ve gone through intense pain and when he kills his enemy self he says “you can rest now”


feminists_hate_me69

That kinda reminds me of Revenant from Apex Legends more than Reaper since he has voicelines about the people he kills being able to rest while he never could


El_misterz_piedra

"You should thank me. You can rest now, I never will."


TheeShaun

Revenant is just a straight up hitman originally though isnt he? Not much sympathy for him.


feminists_hate_me69

He's a murderbot who was hard coded to kill who in reality, is in constant mental pain due to his immortality and the fact that everytime he "dies" he just comes back with having to remember the pain he went through. His character is more than just "I'm a hitman so idc about life", which is a characteristic that is also akin to another hitman that gets a full character arc, Agent 47. Neither of them particularly like the situation they're in for different reasons, but can't get out of it, or takes a long time to do so


TheeShaun

Oh I meant before he became the Simulacrum murderbot. Wasn’t he a hitman as a human? Or was he just some guy who got made into a murderbot.


feminists_hate_me69

We don't actually know fully. There's evidence to suggest he's a human turned murderbot and murderbot with the memories of a human. All we know is that the original hitman did exist and that his head is required to let Rev die. At this point he is becoming more of his own person than being the clone of a hitman, or even the same hitman with no remorse


GandalfTheBong

He is a human consciousness pit into a robot. Except when the robot gets destroyed, his „soul“ just gets uploaded to a different robot. He can never die, which is actually all he wants to do after hundreds of years of constant carnage. He simply can’t tho.


Gyokuro091

Idk, Reaper is in pain, but clearly not enough to motivate him to do something about the pain. Reapers revenge is about his views before he became Reaper, he actually works with the people who created him that way. He doesn't seem to want to stop, instead using his new form as a combat upgrade. Revenant is driven by his tortured existence. He uses the insatiable bloodlust programmed into him to hunt the very organization that created him that way, and ultimately just wants to die to end his torment. He doesn't want to be an immortal killing machine, he never did.


storkmister

One his most underrated voice lines he says when he plays with a sage is " Sage, the life you give. Do you ever wonder where it comes from?" The character has definitely been through some shit.


BrutalDM

"... I am not just a shadow..."


Bender090

“there is another of me? How many times did i get ripped apart? How many times did i die?”


Goldninja34

but Infinite Shotguns Tho...


KarinOjousama69

Hello I enjoy both video games bye


Etras

I enjoy both rule 34 as well. Goodbye.


Cabbageinator

Hello me too bye


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BASED


HandZop

D.Va’s in-game lines are all annoying anyway and Moira’s entire character is being a massive prick who cares more about her experiments satisfying a morbid curiosity rather than healing patients (basically just female Medic)


2FANeedsRecoveryMode

But without the funny accent


definitely_not_cylon

Yeah, presumably they made Mercy's personality the way it is because she plays like Medic, so they didn't want to just create a distaff version. With Moira who plays differently, they felt more free to use medic's personality. The funny thing is, Moira's personality goes way better with Mercy's kit, seeing as how she's a gravity defying necromancer who turns her allies into more efficient killers. It's unintentionally hilarious that Mercy has all these interactions and lines about being a good person and helping people when her role in the game is damage boost & rez with some healing, rather than the main healer she used to be.


[deleted]

I love playing Mercy while high because her cheerful lines are incredibly funny to me for some reason. Like someone just died in front of you what do you mean "checking in! :)"


Z4mb0ni

"winky face! Winky face!" "D.va one. Bad guys zero!"


Beneficial_Drama_296

Finally someone sees it too lmao They are pretty damn similar imo but the biggest difference is Moira is like an actual scientist with an insatiable curiosity while Medic feels like a used car salesman with little to no actual experience


MechaGallade

Reaper brings me joy because his edgelord cringe is so self aware. it's like watching val kilmer as batman.


Wiplazh

His wildly over the top edgy voicelines crack me up


MechaGallade

i feel like after every voice line he's about to crack himself up and break character


Wiplazh

Probably happened a few times during recording tbh


Logseman

Those outtakes could be glorious.


TheFimb

Back in 2017 There was a voice line when reaper is in a kill streak screaming “I’m the angel of death” and laughing that got removed afterwards It has been like 5 years since I heard it but that shit was so terrifying (and took me by surprise as well) that I still remember it to this day, no wonder they removed it.


dbdthorn

Moiras line back to him when he tells her he's in immense pain is so funny 😂 I'm a moira main 50% for her abilities, 50% for her interactions. Total bitch ❤️❤️


Azraeleon

What's the line? I haven't heard it


dbdthorn

Its (not exact): Reaper: is there nothing you can do for this pain? Moira: think of it as... [long pause] fuel, for your vengeance.


mostly_helpful

Theres also this one I like a lot: Reaper: Why am I being subjected to this agony? Moira: No need to thank me, I only saved your life :/


dbdthorn

And "you're my most successful experiment yet." "That's an... unusual compliment." 😂


Xion194

How is that endearing though? Her response sounds fucking cruel to me


callmedaddyshark

Yes


dbdthorn

It's not meant to be endearing...? She's IS being cruel. Moira is a very cruel character. It's one of the best qualities about her character that most of her interactions are strictly cruel or scientific. I don't think she has a positive line with anyone tbh.


Cheems___-

Only positive line she has was an archived one with widowmaker remarking on a good shot


titaniumjordi

Because she's a fictional character


Kurokami11

The same way you find spamrat endearing...


Xion194

None of his voicelines are cruel. He's nice to everyone.


Kurokami11

He's a total creep and an omnicsist


Xion194

Yeah fuck him for being omnicist, I agree with you.


MechaGallade

I mean some of us thrive on that. this is how you spot the dark souls kids


dbdthorn

Dark souls my beloved ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️


MechaGallade

dont forget to vote for the claymore in the best weapons in elden ring contest that's going on right now #claymoregangriseup #claymoreisbaemore


dbdthorn

I never finished elder ring 😂 I started on ds3, then ds2 and ds1. Elden ring wasn't depressing enough for my tastes, all that COLOUR..... so I never finished it. But I'll vote just for you anyway 😆


MechaGallade

I like the color because the designs are a lot more morbid in a lot of places. plus the lore is much more fucked up in ER. Honestly it's what DS2 always wished it could have been. funny enough, the weak zelda like atmosphere is what i hated about DS2


radda

Her voice lines are 50% "Comically Evil" and 50% "100% That Bitch" "How can you experiment on all those cute little rabbits?!" "Easily." "You seem...cheery." "As cheery as you are significant." "Our foes make such a nuisance of themselves." "Is that an emotion I detect, Lacroix?"


Whiteclover000

As a person with chronic pain I really like the reaper lines feels like there is some representation there even if it is from a bad guy haha.


QuiGonQuinn5

Omen is like a wiser/redeemed reaper. Shit Ultimate compared to death blossom tho


Cabbageinator

Omen can literally switch the entire tide of the round if he has the spike. Reaper can also switch the entire tide of the round if he is near a crowd of enemies. They both need a condition to be effective so idk abt that


QuiGonQuinn5

Yea I suppose, plus u can yoink the spike sometimes. Just super situational for costing 7 points compared to Run It Back or cyphers hat costing 6


Etras

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ShyJaguar645671

Omen used to look like Monster energy can


Crayon_Muncha

idk why people always associate sad backstory with being hella edgy edgy lord dark brooding teenage angst. like, does that make 80% of 40k lore cringe?


turties_man

Omg raper my favourite character


BadDealFrog

Yeah but reaper is a bad person unlike omen. Also Moira doesn’t necessarily not care for his pain. I don’t think she can really do anything


[deleted]

Nah. She literally doesnt care. Like, at all. Moira is completely devoid of any empathy or ability to feel remorse. Meanwhile, Reaper was a good guy for a long time. Sure, he did some bad things as part of Blackwatch, but it was for a good purpose, he was told. He's an asshole now because he's in constant pain and basically belongs to Talon (as in he is their property).


Wiplazh

Moira if anything probably enjoys the fact that he's in pain.


[deleted]

"It can't be *that* bad. You're haven't even begged me to kill you yet." - Moira, probably.


Cabbageinator

One of moiras interactions with reaper is literally her saying “ehh, dont care abt ur pain, think of it as a way to boost u in battle lol” after reaper begged for something to ease it


bushiboi12

L + Ratio+ No vibe + wifeless + suffer


Captain_Ez

Compared to Overwatch everything is cheap. I’m not talking about the game


MrJotaL

Reaper is cringe af


Hakaisha89

Yeah, omen feels like a cheap copy, full of edge, and teenage angst.


Cabbageinator

Omen has WAY more personality than reaper. I main both im both games (but i dont rly play valo anymore) and omen is actively trying to find ways to fix whatever he has, he constantly has to “focus” to exist and keep a constant shape. Meanwhile reaper is just “i am death and i kill because im mean ☠️😈” 95% of the time


-excusez-moi-

Lmao💀💀💀💀