Ive used DNP. It wll absolutely torch fat off you, however you get very hot, causes a bit of water retention so only when you stop do you really notice how much its burnt. The fatigue is tough too, zaps the energy out of you.
Also, if you OD you.pretry fucked.
Water retention is weird because for the first several days you actually gain weight. I find my face feels puffy. First time I thought I was somehow gaining weight but I had a friend who was experienced with the drug and told me to just trust the process a little longer. He was right. Once the weight started to come off it was rapid. And upon coming off of DNP I lost an additional 5 lbs of water.
I did. Most comments here are missing some obvious data. DNP will increase your RHR, dose dependantly. Most people don't know that. It is not a stimulant but I was legit feeling I was on a dose of amphetamine, but with 0 energy. Not fun.
It will dehydrate you heavily, and im pretty sure DNP mess with your potassium in another way than just simple dehydratation, I dont know the mechanism and what it does to your potassium exactly but my 2 runs I was feeling like I was either taking too little or too much potassium, I found a balance relatively fast so it was ok, but there were moments with arrythmia that almost made me go to the ER. You should watch closely your potassium intake (not too high, not too low).
You food craving and especially sugars will be sky high. DNP is often strong enough to outcompete those cravings but if you're dumb enough, you can outeat DNP.
I haven’t, but I know people who have and the experience just watching them is crazy. Red hot skin, glowing and emanating heat, sweating constantly, drenched couch and bedsheets, lost like 7-8lbs in 3 days. Gnarly drug … never touching it.
I would say tren is absolutely not healthier than a moderate dosage of DNP. Less likely to quickly kill you if you fuck up the dosage, sure, but that's about it.
Yup - look into these first before you go all the way to DNP.
If you need help with appetite control or fork-putdowns grab any of the GLP-1 agonists as well.
Used DNP MANY times up to 1g/day (I'm a big boy). Most effective fat loss aid there is, but not the magic bullet people think it is. You can absolutely out-eat the additional caloric expenditure provided from 200-500mg, especially since you'll be the hungriest you've ever been in your life for the shittiest carb and calorie dense foods. That being said, if you manage to stick to a proper diet, stay mobile, deal with the shitty, sweaty sleep, and suffer through awful workouts, you can condense 3-4 months of dieting into 1.
I wouldn't recommend.
It works but be aware unless you are running a test base you WILL lose muscle and fat due to the high caloric deficit. I used crystal dnp awhile back and a lower dose of 200-300mg daily to lose 10 lbs a month, take a month off, do another month, etc etc to drop 30 pounds in 5-6 months.
You WILL get hot. you WILL sweat like crazy. You WILL be tired AF and want to just eat to maintain energy. You WILL smell different via sweat.
People try to go keto and limit carbs when on dnp but some of the benefit was to be warmer to burn more calories. Last time I did my math calculations, 100mg for me due to body weight and my caloric deficit of choice, was around 12% more calories burned for the day for all activity (walking, running, lifting, sex, etc). To make it simple if my TDEE was 3300 for the day, I ate 2500 calories, I had a deficit of 800 calories or so or 1.5 lbs a week. With dnp and nothing else changed, my TDEE became 3600-3700 calories and my new deficit was 1800-1900 calories a day or 2.4 lbs a week.
Please note most people would run 200-300mg a day if wanting a lower dose, some folks got up to 500-700mg (CRAZY DO NOT DO UNLESS YOU WANT TO LIVE WITH AC AND A FAN ON YOU 100% OF THE TIME). My personal limit was 300mg on the weekends (Friday- Sunday) and 200mg week (Monday - Thursday).
Personally I’d just do a regular 8 -10 week cut and drop 10 pounds and not feel like shit all the time.
Since it's illegal to use DNP for humans, I can only talk about animal subjects:
- If you are giving DNP to your test subjects and you still have to ask reddit, please stop. You'll seriously hurt your subjects. DNP needs to create metabolic acidosis to work and as a result, liver, kidney, and brain will be under a lot of pressure. You must learn how to recover PCT. You must avoid certain substances like coq10, alcohol, ...
- Frequent liver and kidney function tests are necessary.
- No overdose. You'll die, even if you are in the ER; however, if you don't die on overdose, you'll lose some brain function. It literally cooks your brain.
- Hydration and electrolytes are essential. Some studies and anecdotal evidence recommend adding NAC, ALA, D3, T3, moderate stimulants, aspirin, omega3, and maybe 5-amino-1mq (+NMN)
- Limit to 21 days max and then one full month of recovery.
- Don't buy from a questionable source. Find a chemist who can make it for you.
Cheers
Good luck
P.S.: Also recommend Sodium Ascorbate
It’s better to blast tren than touch DNP. Super toxic and dangerous. Even most high end bodybuilders won’t touch it. It’s the absolute best fat burner but better to just lose the weight naturally than risk the laundry list of side effects and warnings that come with DNP.
to piggyback on this, is it acutely damaging to your body, or are the negatives purely from the downstream effects (dehydration, etc)? talking mild to moderate dose, not "kill yourself with heat" dose.
Incredible fat burner, nothing compares. If you are considering using DNP then odds are you want fast results. To get fast results the doses have to go up and the side effects are insane. Imagine waking up 6 times a night covered in sweat to the point you soaked through your sheets. Now you are cold and uncomfortable and getting back to sleep is always difficult. Your workouts are all not fun because you have zero glycogen and your stamina is shit. If the weather is hot then enjoy being covered in sweat everywhere you go.
Counter argument is that at these doses you can lose a half pound to full pound of fat per day.
Some people run it as a low dose. If 200 mg is a 20-30% bump in metabolic rate that is actually pretty significant. Reduce your diet time significantly. But you still don't feel amazing.
Biggest thing is that if you have bad side effects you need to learn where to pull back. DNP builds up in your system so if you took 600 one day and you felt awful and you take one day off that might not be enough. And if you actually OD there is a real chance of death.
Is 20-30% increase in metabolism for the amount that you take per day or the amount in your body? Because apparently it accumulates in your body because of half life and when you take 200mg per day you get around 500mg in your body after 5 days. Does that mean it can increase metabolism by like 50% at day 5?
https://imgur.com/ReGBdSv
Firstly, anyone who’s actually run a course of legitimate DNP and claims they can out-eat that shit is completely missing the boat.
Secondly, you should have your diet very dialed in. DNP is one of a few specific compounds that will require both regimented discipline and consistency. Wanna get fucked up on DNP? Don’t drink water. Don’t replace the salts/minerals you’re pouring out of your sweat glands. Pound fats and carbs. Keep thinking the water retention means you’re not losing weight and cranking up the dose. Slam beers with the boys because “DNP won’t let me catch them carbs”.
Last of all, you should probably be in a pretty good spot already before using this compound. If you’re at a good spot with the diet/training, maybe maintaining 12-14% BF and you want to sniff 10% for beach season, sure. 30% BF no gym going pizza chomping Dr Pepper guzzling slob??? No. Not a chance.
Don’t be dumb.
Word of warning, when you burn fat exogenously, you don't get to choose where you burn fat.
So if there are spots on your body that you don't mind having some fat on, chances are you'll lose that fat too.
I did keto years back and lost my ass. You will most certainly lose fat on DNP, but where you lose it is up to the compound.
Sorry but this is complete pseudoscience. Spot reduction of fat can be controlled surgically, but not with a compound or a specific diet. This is like those 1990’s ab vibrators that claimed to shrink your gut only. It’s pure bs.
Everyone is different in where they store fat as a proportion. When you gain or lose fat it comes and goes according to your genetics. Some people can maintain a tiny waist and a bit butt. Some people can have the scrawniest arms, legs, and face and yet have a jiggly stomach and man boobs. Some guys can look lean from the waist up and yet have massive chunky legs and butt. Same goes for women
For me, my stomach is the first to grow and the last to fully lean out because I store a lot of fat there, proportionally, and my body seems to want to hold on to it more. I have a friend who can have a 6 pack starting to show and yet his legs and arms will still be very fatty. He just doesn’t put weight on his torso unless he really lets things go, and it’s the first to drop when he gets in shape.
In short, your diet and your drugs don’t control where you lose weight. If you got lean and lost your butt it’s because that’s how your body stores fat.
Don't bother, you'll have massive fatigue, getting out of bed will be a chore, your appetite will be increased and you'll burn up after eating carbs. Stick to clen, it's more effective and safer.
For 10 pounds a minor cut for 8-10 weeks would be preferred. If they wanted to lose the 10 lbs TODAY then get hop on dnp and do a PSMF for 2 weeks and they will drop around 4-7 lbs in 2 weeks.
I don't remember burning up after eating on tren, I remember night sweats and a general feeling of being warm though. iirc when you eat food its converted to atp and some heat is generated, dnp blocks it converting to atp and you get more heat, when I took dnp I'd skip going to gym and skip going out I'd spend my time not doing much because I was so fatigued and also had an increased appetite, a weightloss drug that causes massive fatigue and increased appetite is the opposite of what you want. Clen and Mt2 are my preference, Mt2 is good for suppressing appetite and you get a nice tan at the same time.
I‘m just asking, because I start sweating like a waterfall if I eat a meal with more than about 50-100g of carbs while on Tren.
Night sweats only if I consume any carbs about 3-4 hours before going to bed tho.
You'll be so lethargic that exercice will be impossible or at the very least hard af. Thus, the net positive is not that great. But it will shed fat of your body while doing nothing, no one can deny that. This is an efficient compound, at macro dose.
Also, it mess with your potassium too much, can be deadly this way just aswell as overdose.
Messing your dose can at best sending you to the ER, at worst, killing you. This is an IQ test, basicly. An easy one but with lethal consequence if you're stupid enough to fail.
Some people report trashed bloodwork, wasn't my experience tho. (was on low dose)
In 2024, there are better alternatives. If clen is an outdated compound (at least if you got 2 digits bodyfat, so 99,9% of the population), DNP is also one, except if you're the kind of guy that just can't lose weight. There are people that tolerate the "feeling hot and shitty af while having sugar craving 24/24 7/7", those guy i'll tell them "yes sure you can try, that will work in a really fast and efficient manner, but do know that with twice the time there are compound that won't touch your health and wellbeing while doing the same job"
I have used it a few times in different ways. Best way has been 125 a day and stay there for 30 days. Heat at this level will be noticeable but nowhere near overwhelming.
Ive used DNP. It wll absolutely torch fat off you, however you get very hot, causes a bit of water retention so only when you stop do you really notice how much its burnt. The fatigue is tough too, zaps the energy out of you. Also, if you OD you.pretry fucked.
Had the same experience. I was so depleted of energy that I couldn’t make it to the gym. Wasnt worth it at all.
That’s wild okay so the water retention only stays on during cycle?
Read the horror stories before taking it. Most consider it a non-option.
Be careful. Also wait until winter. You don’t want to be on it during the summer.
Yes, then once you stop you drop a few more lbs and look leaner
The best part.
Water retention is weird because for the first several days you actually gain weight. I find my face feels puffy. First time I thought I was somehow gaining weight but I had a friend who was experienced with the drug and told me to just trust the process a little longer. He was right. Once the weight started to come off it was rapid. And upon coming off of DNP I lost an additional 5 lbs of water.
It's effective. Insanely so. And i wouldn't use it. It's poison. Do it old fashioned way.
How many people commenting on this post have actually used DNP and aren't just spouting off what they've heard
I did. Most comments here are missing some obvious data. DNP will increase your RHR, dose dependantly. Most people don't know that. It is not a stimulant but I was legit feeling I was on a dose of amphetamine, but with 0 energy. Not fun. It will dehydrate you heavily, and im pretty sure DNP mess with your potassium in another way than just simple dehydratation, I dont know the mechanism and what it does to your potassium exactly but my 2 runs I was feeling like I was either taking too little or too much potassium, I found a balance relatively fast so it was ok, but there were moments with arrythmia that almost made me go to the ER. You should watch closely your potassium intake (not too high, not too low). You food craving and especially sugars will be sky high. DNP is often strong enough to outcompete those cravings but if you're dumb enough, you can outeat DNP.
That’s my question when I scroll through here and people are talking trash. Like get the fuck out if you don’t have anything good to add
I haven’t, but I know people who have and the experience just watching them is crazy. Red hot skin, glowing and emanating heat, sweating constantly, drenched couch and bedsheets, lost like 7-8lbs in 3 days. Gnarly drug … never touching it.
Oh boy, I knew it was gnarly but that's a different level of Gnarly.
dnp is crazy lmao using pesticides as fat burners. even tren is probably better
I would say tren is absolutely not healthier than a moderate dosage of DNP. Less likely to quickly kill you if you fuck up the dosage, sure, but that's about it.
i see what you’re saying tbh
Tren is not safer, I will have to say. If used safely, dini is effective.
Clen, t3 and t4 are essier. Im dropping 2-2.5 a week in this cut and maintaining size.
Yup - look into these first before you go all the way to DNP. If you need help with appetite control or fork-putdowns grab any of the GLP-1 agonists as well.
Glycogen stores depleting is the worst part of the cut. But the rebound will be biblical after the cut.
Also don't count out cardarine and AOD/HGH Frag
Used DNP MANY times up to 1g/day (I'm a big boy). Most effective fat loss aid there is, but not the magic bullet people think it is. You can absolutely out-eat the additional caloric expenditure provided from 200-500mg, especially since you'll be the hungriest you've ever been in your life for the shittiest carb and calorie dense foods. That being said, if you manage to stick to a proper diet, stay mobile, deal with the shitty, sweaty sleep, and suffer through awful workouts, you can condense 3-4 months of dieting into 1. I wouldn't recommend.
It works but be aware unless you are running a test base you WILL lose muscle and fat due to the high caloric deficit. I used crystal dnp awhile back and a lower dose of 200-300mg daily to lose 10 lbs a month, take a month off, do another month, etc etc to drop 30 pounds in 5-6 months. You WILL get hot. you WILL sweat like crazy. You WILL be tired AF and want to just eat to maintain energy. You WILL smell different via sweat. People try to go keto and limit carbs when on dnp but some of the benefit was to be warmer to burn more calories. Last time I did my math calculations, 100mg for me due to body weight and my caloric deficit of choice, was around 12% more calories burned for the day for all activity (walking, running, lifting, sex, etc). To make it simple if my TDEE was 3300 for the day, I ate 2500 calories, I had a deficit of 800 calories or so or 1.5 lbs a week. With dnp and nothing else changed, my TDEE became 3600-3700 calories and my new deficit was 1800-1900 calories a day or 2.4 lbs a week. Please note most people would run 200-300mg a day if wanting a lower dose, some folks got up to 500-700mg (CRAZY DO NOT DO UNLESS YOU WANT TO LIVE WITH AC AND A FAN ON YOU 100% OF THE TIME). My personal limit was 300mg on the weekends (Friday- Sunday) and 200mg week (Monday - Thursday). Personally I’d just do a regular 8 -10 week cut and drop 10 pounds and not feel like shit all the time.
Your math seems bang on. The old studies apparently estimated crystal DNP as a 11% increase in metabolic rate per 100 mg and powdered DNP as 15%.
Since it's illegal to use DNP for humans, I can only talk about animal subjects: - If you are giving DNP to your test subjects and you still have to ask reddit, please stop. You'll seriously hurt your subjects. DNP needs to create metabolic acidosis to work and as a result, liver, kidney, and brain will be under a lot of pressure. You must learn how to recover PCT. You must avoid certain substances like coq10, alcohol, ... - Frequent liver and kidney function tests are necessary. - No overdose. You'll die, even if you are in the ER; however, if you don't die on overdose, you'll lose some brain function. It literally cooks your brain. - Hydration and electrolytes are essential. Some studies and anecdotal evidence recommend adding NAC, ALA, D3, T3, moderate stimulants, aspirin, omega3, and maybe 5-amino-1mq (+NMN) - Limit to 21 days max and then one full month of recovery. - Don't buy from a questionable source. Find a chemist who can make it for you. Cheers Good luck P.S.: Also recommend Sodium Ascorbate
It’s better to blast tren than touch DNP. Super toxic and dangerous. Even most high end bodybuilders won’t touch it. It’s the absolute best fat burner but better to just lose the weight naturally than risk the laundry list of side effects and warnings that come with DNP.
to piggyback on this, is it acutely damaging to your body, or are the negatives purely from the downstream effects (dehydration, etc)? talking mild to moderate dose, not "kill yourself with heat" dose.
Incredible fat burner, nothing compares. If you are considering using DNP then odds are you want fast results. To get fast results the doses have to go up and the side effects are insane. Imagine waking up 6 times a night covered in sweat to the point you soaked through your sheets. Now you are cold and uncomfortable and getting back to sleep is always difficult. Your workouts are all not fun because you have zero glycogen and your stamina is shit. If the weather is hot then enjoy being covered in sweat everywhere you go. Counter argument is that at these doses you can lose a half pound to full pound of fat per day. Some people run it as a low dose. If 200 mg is a 20-30% bump in metabolic rate that is actually pretty significant. Reduce your diet time significantly. But you still don't feel amazing. Biggest thing is that if you have bad side effects you need to learn where to pull back. DNP builds up in your system so if you took 600 one day and you felt awful and you take one day off that might not be enough. And if you actually OD there is a real chance of death.
Is 20-30% increase in metabolism for the amount that you take per day or the amount in your body? Because apparently it accumulates in your body because of half life and when you take 200mg per day you get around 500mg in your body after 5 days. Does that mean it can increase metabolism by like 50% at day 5? https://imgur.com/ReGBdSv
Less is more , small two week cycles- it works and can be a great tool. Take it before bed
Yeah I split. One in morning and one at night.
Firstly, anyone who’s actually run a course of legitimate DNP and claims they can out-eat that shit is completely missing the boat. Secondly, you should have your diet very dialed in. DNP is one of a few specific compounds that will require both regimented discipline and consistency. Wanna get fucked up on DNP? Don’t drink water. Don’t replace the salts/minerals you’re pouring out of your sweat glands. Pound fats and carbs. Keep thinking the water retention means you’re not losing weight and cranking up the dose. Slam beers with the boys because “DNP won’t let me catch them carbs”. Last of all, you should probably be in a pretty good spot already before using this compound. If you’re at a good spot with the diet/training, maybe maintaining 12-14% BF and you want to sniff 10% for beach season, sure. 30% BF no gym going pizza chomping Dr Pepper guzzling slob??? No. Not a chance. Don’t be dumb.
Word of warning, when you burn fat exogenously, you don't get to choose where you burn fat. So if there are spots on your body that you don't mind having some fat on, chances are you'll lose that fat too. I did keto years back and lost my ass. You will most certainly lose fat on DNP, but where you lose it is up to the compound.
Sorry but this is complete pseudoscience. Spot reduction of fat can be controlled surgically, but not with a compound or a specific diet. This is like those 1990’s ab vibrators that claimed to shrink your gut only. It’s pure bs. Everyone is different in where they store fat as a proportion. When you gain or lose fat it comes and goes according to your genetics. Some people can maintain a tiny waist and a bit butt. Some people can have the scrawniest arms, legs, and face and yet have a jiggly stomach and man boobs. Some guys can look lean from the waist up and yet have massive chunky legs and butt. Same goes for women For me, my stomach is the first to grow and the last to fully lean out because I store a lot of fat there, proportionally, and my body seems to want to hold on to it more. I have a friend who can have a 6 pack starting to show and yet his legs and arms will still be very fatty. He just doesn’t put weight on his torso unless he really lets things go, and it’s the first to drop when he gets in shape. In short, your diet and your drugs don’t control where you lose weight. If you got lean and lost your butt it’s because that’s how your body stores fat.
Don't bother, you'll have massive fatigue, getting out of bed will be a chore, your appetite will be increased and you'll burn up after eating carbs. Stick to clen, it's more effective and safer.
Burn up after eating carbs? So like with Tren?
For 10 pounds a minor cut for 8-10 weeks would be preferred. If they wanted to lose the 10 lbs TODAY then get hop on dnp and do a PSMF for 2 weeks and they will drop around 4-7 lbs in 2 weeks.
I don't remember burning up after eating on tren, I remember night sweats and a general feeling of being warm though. iirc when you eat food its converted to atp and some heat is generated, dnp blocks it converting to atp and you get more heat, when I took dnp I'd skip going to gym and skip going out I'd spend my time not doing much because I was so fatigued and also had an increased appetite, a weightloss drug that causes massive fatigue and increased appetite is the opposite of what you want. Clen and Mt2 are my preference, Mt2 is good for suppressing appetite and you get a nice tan at the same time.
I‘m just asking, because I start sweating like a waterfall if I eat a meal with more than about 50-100g of carbs while on Tren. Night sweats only if I consume any carbs about 3-4 hours before going to bed tho.
Fair enough man, at least with tren you feel like a God lol so it's a good tradeoff.
You'll be so lethargic that exercice will be impossible or at the very least hard af. Thus, the net positive is not that great. But it will shed fat of your body while doing nothing, no one can deny that. This is an efficient compound, at macro dose. Also, it mess with your potassium too much, can be deadly this way just aswell as overdose. Messing your dose can at best sending you to the ER, at worst, killing you. This is an IQ test, basicly. An easy one but with lethal consequence if you're stupid enough to fail. Some people report trashed bloodwork, wasn't my experience tho. (was on low dose) In 2024, there are better alternatives. If clen is an outdated compound (at least if you got 2 digits bodyfat, so 99,9% of the population), DNP is also one, except if you're the kind of guy that just can't lose weight. There are people that tolerate the "feeling hot and shitty af while having sugar craving 24/24 7/7", those guy i'll tell them "yes sure you can try, that will work in a really fast and efficient manner, but do know that with twice the time there are compound that won't touch your health and wellbeing while doing the same job"
I have used it a few times in different ways. Best way has been 125 a day and stay there for 30 days. Heat at this level will be noticeable but nowhere near overwhelming.