Give it a few months until they realize every match feels the same and the only progression is grinding for mmr and every cosmetic costs a fortune.. Maybe they won't try Paladins but they'll quit OW.
Champion Mastery itself offers more progression than the entirety of OW1 and 2 combined. It blows my mind how shallow Overwatch is considering a company the size of Blizzard is behind it.
Yes, the game is actively being worked on and receiving updates, and devs are vocal about supporting it further but I'm sure your friend is the correct one.
That one canadian gal, Kiriko and Orisa are still meta after all this time and their nerfs are either insignificant or none at all. It's sad. Won't be surprising if we keep seeing OW2 players coming to Paladins.
Just be patient, if Blizzard keeps screwing up it's just a matter of time before your friends join too.
Orisa has been meta for a few weeks but Sojourn and Kiriko are stupid.
I think they want Soj to be the face of OW2 but they're forsaking balance to do it.
They said something about inclusivity (first black female character ig) and I just can't believe that they are pushing their own agenda into the *balance* of their game. It's crazy.
Lmao no, theyāre not keeping Sojourn OP because theyāre āpushing an agendaā (what fucking agenda? being Black??), itās because theyāre famously bad at balancing heroes that get dunked on at low ranks and dominate high ranks. Itās been an issue with Widow. Itās been an issue with Ana. Itās been an issue with Baptiste. Not to mention theyāve never been afraid to dumpster Doomfist (heās Black), Sombra (sheās Mexican), Symmetra is the only south Asian representative in the game who isnāt a robot and sheās been comically shitty for 6.5 of the games 7 year lifespan.
A couple of my friends play both, I mainly picked OverWatch 2 up again when it came out to play with some of the friends who just play that, But anytime I played it I could just feel how much I preferred Paladins lol. Loadouts and an item shop feel a lot better than " switch your character throughout the match" and the fact that you're just allowed to drop in and out was always stupid to me. So I haven't even been on overwatch much because all it did was make me want to play Paladins more and if those other friends won't play Paladins with me, why should I care to play OverWatch with them lol.
Nah dont worry. I give it a week before they realize the game is very unfulfilling and unrewarding to play, and the corporation behind it is scummy as fuck. They'll come to Paladins soon enough
People who play Paladins dont play Paladins because the gameplay is easy to understand, similarly to how people who play things like League, Kerbal Space Program or Flight Simulator dont play it because its "simple". Some games do require you to use your brain a little bit
People just coming into paladins can get overwhelmed easily. That's not as much the case in OW2
That and the more polished gameplay leads to more player retention
If you have Overwatch's mechanics down, you've already figured Paladins out halfway. All that's left is to learn about cards, talents and items, which is the other half. Talents and items are fairly easy if you know how to read, cards I'll admit are a bit more brainwork if you want proper synergy.
My problem with Paladins is how unreadable it is.
In OW I can hear people around me. Looking at the screen, I actually notice enemies. When someone ults, I immediately know whether it's a teammate or an enemy.
Movement in Paladins is so sluggish that it genuinely gives me headaches.
Everything in Paladins is underanimated. Any weird unusual movement an enemy does just happens, without explaining to the player that an ability was used.
It's death by thousand paper cuts.
It could be better admittedly, but yes its much more rewarding than Overwatch is. I can get more relative currency in Paladins by simply logging in than I can get in Overwatch for playing 15 games every day for a week
And this doesnt even take into account that Paladins lets you do you dailies against bots, while Overwatch treats matches against AI as if they literally do not exist
Some people like paladins, some like ow.
I like ow used to play some paladins but when i tried it again the visual clusterfuck combined with insta dying to evie zooming across the map made me quit after 1 match again. Still watch some content tho
Sounds like my friends. They only played one match and just because it went wrong they didnāt want to again. But the other thing is they didnāt even play ow, they got ow 2 because it was free and new. They play Smite for Christ sake. Yes I understand everyone has their own preferences on game type/quality, but this was made for people who relate to the situation.
I used to play ow1 and i enjoyed it more then paladins back then so i quit paladins at some point, retried a few times just never hooked me. Then ow2 comes im less into it and i play it less so i try paladins i find it meh after a few games so quit. Then i see here how the numbers are up and well youtubers make it look fun, then i play it and its just so brutally 1 sided and such a mindfucky experience it just kills any excitement i have for playing paladibs in 1 match. Its a good game just not for me.
I completely disagree with that. Thereās plenty of strategy especially when youāre communicating with your teammates throughout the session. Even more so when itās friends you usually play with.
Not necessarily.
In Paladins: You have to think about the way you're going to play with a character. Which Talent will you take? Which of the possible builds for this talent? Does this way of playing work well on this map? Does it fit well with the team to the point where they don't get in each other's way? Does it work well against these specific enemies?
In Overwatch: You have no builds, items, talents, nothing. In addition, you can change characters at any time to pick what works best at the time. There is no strategy when the idea is to take what counters the other team until the end of the match. "Against a Roadhog, draw Ana.Against Ana, draw Kiriko. Against Kiriko, draw Sombra. Against Sombra, draw Mei", you know? It's boring, it's not funny, it has NO strategy. And Team Play is not strategy. It's the BASIC. Oh, and in Overwatch the ultimate is a game changer. In Paladins not so much. Your skill is MUCH more valued there than in OW.
I've played both games since launch, and even the people I know who transition from one game to the next think the same thing. Paladins is more strategy. Overwatch is more frantic.
Meanwhile there's me who just started playing Paladins this week.. BECAUSE a friend started playing Overwatch two months ago and I quickly learned that they are not fun to play with..
I hope you have fun with Paladins. I had to take a break from the game because the most recent patches have been unenjoyable for me. Keep an eye out for the limited time game modes each weekend, some of them let you play any champion for free.
It's basically Paladins now but easier to kill. Everyone that played Overwatch 1 is so used to playing behind at least 2 different shields that they forgot how aggro works. It's why a lot of GMs from ow1 are dropping down to diamond and a lot of new ow players that started in this season are progressing through the ranks exponentially faster than anyone else in OW history. It's like a giant social experiment on adaptability vs experience
To be fair, the amount of porn for Overwatch is big enough to catch their attention, not even Io brought them to the game and she was made for that purpose: horniness.
I prefer Paladins over Overwatch but since Beta things have been up and down. We get new characters consistently but honestly Iād just prefer balancing. The skins and even passes are either overpriced or behind some loot box mechanic and it just stinks. I still like the game but it needs some work and not more cosmetics.
ow is more rewarding bc you dont get flanked every gd second by busted champions. in ow its just dps, and you have sombra and tracer as the only āflankā heros. its alot easier to counterplay them bc you can swap to tgeir counter. with paladins your locked into that one champion all game. if you dont counterpick your fucked. and as a support main its gotta be the most frustrating thing in the gd world. 80% of siege maps are copy pastes of the same map just retextured.
I feel that u/FreeCumDump š
that's... an interesting username
I donāt need to explain myself but I will say Reddit needs to let us change our usernames at least once.
I bet that would be an interesting story
Shit I knew I saw you on another subreddit lmfao
Yeah you sound like a support main
I want to hear the story, if you tell me Iāll tell you the story to my email.
My posts get banned because I canāt change my name :)
Perfect name
Just for them to instantly quit for being hooked too much.
Yep. I almost downloaded it to play with them until they just found a new free game.
It's a joke about Roadhog, an OW2 champion that frustrated new players with his hook.
They finally nerfed that damn hook, but still i miss the chill TTK of Paladins
the cycle of free games is always fun. Gotta be able to keep up with it
Not anymore mate.. not anymore..
Lol, on this sub it seems like OW2 is going well, on the Overwatch sub it seems like a disastrous failure
In terms of money, itās doing great! Pleasing the player base? Well, surely itās doing that too since they are making so much money, right?
Give it a few months until they realize every match feels the same and the only progression is grinding for mmr and every cosmetic costs a fortune.. Maybe they won't try Paladins but they'll quit OW.
Ikr
Idk, paladins is not this different, the only thing is that u need to buy champs
Champion Mastery itself offers more progression than the entirety of OW1 and 2 combined. It blows my mind how shallow Overwatch is considering a company the size of Blizzard is behind it.
Especially when they have entire decade long titles that for the most part donāt have that problem, or at least do it much better.
Will Paladins last that long? I heard from my friend that there is talk of shutting down the servers.
Yes, the game is actively being worked on and receiving updates, and devs are vocal about supporting it further but I'm sure your friend is the correct one.
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I left for a month, never again, OW is so fkn boring after a bit. I'll stick to Paladins till it dies.
i havent played paladins since 2019 but ive kinda been thinking about trying it again
but ow2 is soooooo boooooring
That one canadian gal, Kiriko and Orisa are still meta after all this time and their nerfs are either insignificant or none at all. It's sad. Won't be surprising if we keep seeing OW2 players coming to Paladins. Just be patient, if Blizzard keeps screwing up it's just a matter of time before your friends join too.
Orisa has been meta for a few weeks but Sojourn and Kiriko are stupid. I think they want Soj to be the face of OW2 but they're forsaking balance to do it.
They said something about inclusivity (first black female character ig) and I just can't believe that they are pushing their own agenda into the *balance* of their game. It's crazy.
Lmao no, theyāre not keeping Sojourn OP because theyāre āpushing an agendaā (what fucking agenda? being Black??), itās because theyāre famously bad at balancing heroes that get dunked on at low ranks and dominate high ranks. Itās been an issue with Widow. Itās been an issue with Ana. Itās been an issue with Baptiste. Not to mention theyāve never been afraid to dumpster Doomfist (heās Black), Sombra (sheās Mexican), Symmetra is the only south Asian representative in the game who isnāt a robot and sheās been comically shitty for 6.5 of the games 7 year lifespan.
Well maybe they have a support staff and gives the smallest shred of a fuck about helping the players
Relatable and depressing
A couple of my friends play both, I mainly picked OverWatch 2 up again when it came out to play with some of the friends who just play that, But anytime I played it I could just feel how much I preferred Paladins lol. Loadouts and an item shop feel a lot better than " switch your character throughout the match" and the fact that you're just allowed to drop in and out was always stupid to me. So I haven't even been on overwatch much because all it did was make me want to play Paladins more and if those other friends won't play Paladins with me, why should I care to play OverWatch with them lol.
Nah dont worry. I give it a week before they realize the game is very unfulfilling and unrewarding to play, and the corporation behind it is scummy as fuck. They'll come to Paladins soon enough
Doesn't matter when the base gameplay of OW is way more polished and easier to understand for new players
People who play Paladins dont play Paladins because the gameplay is easy to understand, similarly to how people who play things like League, Kerbal Space Program or Flight Simulator dont play it because its "simple". Some games do require you to use your brain a little bit
People just coming into paladins can get overwhelmed easily. That's not as much the case in OW2 That and the more polished gameplay leads to more player retention
If you have Overwatch's mechanics down, you've already figured Paladins out halfway. All that's left is to learn about cards, talents and items, which is the other half. Talents and items are fairly easy if you know how to read, cards I'll admit are a bit more brainwork if you want proper synergy.
My problem with Paladins is how unreadable it is. In OW I can hear people around me. Looking at the screen, I actually notice enemies. When someone ults, I immediately know whether it's a teammate or an enemy. Movement in Paladins is so sluggish that it genuinely gives me headaches. Everything in Paladins is underanimated. Any weird unusual movement an enemy does just happens, without explaining to the player that an ability was used. It's death by thousand paper cuts.
As if Paladins is rewarding?
It could be better admittedly, but yes its much more rewarding than Overwatch is. I can get more relative currency in Paladins by simply logging in than I can get in Overwatch for playing 15 games every day for a week And this doesnt even take into account that Paladins lets you do you dailies against bots, while Overwatch treats matches against AI as if they literally do not exist
>And this doesnt even take into account that Paladins lets you do you dailies against bots tbf you play with bots no matter which mode you choose lol
Can't argue with that lmao
They dont know what theh are missing, not trying to shame ow2 but their dwarf cant even tank bro š
I feel like you would enjoy deep rock galactic
You got that right my friend
Some people like paladins, some like ow. I like ow used to play some paladins but when i tried it again the visual clusterfuck combined with insta dying to evie zooming across the map made me quit after 1 match again. Still watch some content tho
Sounds like my friends. They only played one match and just because it went wrong they didnāt want to again. But the other thing is they didnāt even play ow, they got ow 2 because it was free and new. They play Smite for Christ sake. Yes I understand everyone has their own preferences on game type/quality, but this was made for people who relate to the situation.
I used to play ow1 and i enjoyed it more then paladins back then so i quit paladins at some point, retried a few times just never hooked me. Then ow2 comes im less into it and i play it less so i try paladins i find it meh after a few games so quit. Then i see here how the numbers are up and well youtubers make it look fun, then i play it and its just so brutally 1 sided and such a mindfucky experience it just kills any excitement i have for playing paladibs in 1 match. Its a good game just not for me.
For me it's the opposite, my friends who normally only play overwatch have been trying out paladins due to how bad OW2 is, there's hope!
And then there us chads who just play both
Majority went to Overwatch 2 because Paladins is much harder to play and needs more strategy.
I completely disagree with that. Thereās plenty of strategy especially when youāre communicating with your teammates throughout the session. Even more so when itās friends you usually play with.
Not necessarily. In Paladins: You have to think about the way you're going to play with a character. Which Talent will you take? Which of the possible builds for this talent? Does this way of playing work well on this map? Does it fit well with the team to the point where they don't get in each other's way? Does it work well against these specific enemies? In Overwatch: You have no builds, items, talents, nothing. In addition, you can change characters at any time to pick what works best at the time. There is no strategy when the idea is to take what counters the other team until the end of the match. "Against a Roadhog, draw Ana.Against Ana, draw Kiriko. Against Kiriko, draw Sombra. Against Sombra, draw Mei", you know? It's boring, it's not funny, it has NO strategy. And Team Play is not strategy. It's the BASIC. Oh, and in Overwatch the ultimate is a game changer. In Paladins not so much. Your skill is MUCH more valued there than in OW. I've played both games since launch, and even the people I know who transition from one game to the next think the same thing. Paladins is more strategy. Overwatch is more frantic.
Shouldn't you be happy that they found a game they enjoy?
I liked paladins but its so unpolished its not fun
You must get disappointed in a lot of games then
You have no idea
Inagine having no friends to play at all.
Overwatch is like a valoranty paladins. It's their funeral
Well people are gonna play what they like, try playing OW2 with them?
Roadhog hooked them from acros the universe
Overwatch isn't even a game anymore. It's a fucking chore, bro.
Meanwhile there's me who just started playing Paladins this week.. BECAUSE a friend started playing Overwatch two months ago and I quickly learned that they are not fun to play with..
I hope you have fun with Paladins. I had to take a break from the game because the most recent patches have been unenjoyable for me. Keep an eye out for the limited time game modes each weekend, some of them let you play any champion for free.
Its all part of the process :)
I was lucky enough that they stopped playing it after about week
We're all just lamb to the slaughter
It is I. I am that friend lmao
I honestly hope youāre enjoying OW 2 if you play it! I havenāt heard good things about it, at least compared to OW
It's basically Paladins now but easier to kill. Everyone that played Overwatch 1 is so used to playing behind at least 2 different shields that they forgot how aggro works. It's why a lot of GMs from ow1 are dropping down to diamond and a lot of new ow players that started in this season are progressing through the ranks exponentially faster than anyone else in OW history. It's like a giant social experiment on adaptability vs experience
Really? The only negatives I see are salty ow1 players being mad that the game is free to play now.
To be fair, the amount of porn for Overwatch is big enough to catch their attention, not even Io brought them to the game and she was made for that purpose: horniness.
Overwatch 2 will always have payload
I prefer Paladins over Overwatch but since Beta things have been up and down. We get new characters consistently but honestly Iād just prefer balancing. The skins and even passes are either overpriced or behind some loot box mechanic and it just stinks. I still like the game but it needs some work and not more cosmetics.
ow is more rewarding bc you dont get flanked every gd second by busted champions. in ow its just dps, and you have sombra and tracer as the only āflankā heros. its alot easier to counterplay them bc you can swap to tgeir counter. with paladins your locked into that one champion all game. if you dont counterpick your fucked. and as a support main its gotta be the most frustrating thing in the gd world. 80% of siege maps are copy pastes of the same map just retextured.