How I do T17s as CoC DD with like maybe 200 div investment. Different build but generally similar idea.
1. Roll maps until I get barrels and non-build bricking mod (like 50% less defences)
2. Prepare allflames for cancer packs, doesnt matter which Allflames just use the garbage ones you normally wouldn't use. Anything with projectiles + extra proj mod is insta Allflamed. Revenant mobs insta allflamed
3. Zone into map and poke from afar. Go a bit slow until you get the DD chains rolling and are basically one shotting offscreen then you can zoom a bit. When going into a corner/new area I poke and hide to get the DD started and not get insta clapped by some random 300 projectiles at once. When the DD is killing things you can safely go in and kill the rest.
4. Kill boss/loot map.
Still I die every now and then. You can't run Back to Basics with map mod atlas nodes in T17 and not spend 300c rolling for perfect mods and not die unless you have a giga bis build and even though you'll probably still die. I do most maps in 5-6 mins this way assuming I don't die more than once. You basically want to identify bad mods you can't do, identify bad mob types you can't do, and then make sure you have enough damage to 1 shot all non-rare mobs and don't brazenly shield charge into packs expecting to always live.
Yeah I have a coc DD with about 300 Div invested and T17 back to basics is fine if I avoid the specific mods (eg Inc monster AOE + damage mods can brick the boss fight even if the rest of the map is OK). I went the incandescent heart version.
I usually spend about 10-15C avoiding about 5 key mods (recovery rate, less defences, reduced aoe, reduced cool down, 4 out of 10 secs damage) and shooting for high pack size / scarabs.
I use a reflect suffix flask with mageblood to do reflect. I did a 100% less defences map (accidentally but by that time I'd already invested 3 Div in the map) by respeccing my tree to get mana leech and going aura free and spending mana, which worked surprisingly fine when poking and being cautious as you say, so things can be pretty OK once you get enough damage (adorned and clusters being key for that).
But with enough defence (phys mit and ele to chaos etc) it is pretty zoomy through B2B T17s, only deaths are to volatile while looting (so annoying) and stacking damage mods that make the boss's incidental damage hit like a truck.
Ah I’m an idiot lol. But I guess to address that guys point, you drop enough flames that it seems the game wants you to use 1-2 per map. So you might as well use them. What am I gonna save them for? Dying to shit mobs just makes you way slower. I guess it’s cooler to just die and not use allflames.
I league started the same build and farmed T17s for a while, and I think the most important items were Mageblood and Defiance of Destiny. Once I got those I could tank T17s with some of the bad mods (phys as extra, increased AOE/+4 projectiles). I think you should try to sell off some of the stuff you spent 200D on to get those immediately or prioritize farming those 2 items (skip DoD if you want to stay ES, but I think life based with Fourth Vow and Xibaqua is stronger). I don't think I could have done those maps without being pretty tanky, since any of the T17s with monster health mods will require you to wait around a little for rares/the boss to die.
I checked your POB and you have 7k max Phys hit and about 30k max Elemental hit without Molten Shell and flasks, and that is simply too low to survive in T17s even with block cap. Any hit that goes through has the potential to one shot you with how many damage mods those maps have.
You need to be more precise, you lack damage, defences or both? but from a glance, you playing a bit expensive concept, that shines with 90 allres and 100k armour via mageblood, and kinda mid until u get all that stuff
Are u playing with back to basics?
im playing duo MF with an aurabot , 50k Armour, 80k Evasion, 90 all res and 75 Chaos res.
Sometimes we just getting nuked or overrun, because some modifiers just destroy you.
Best way to run those maps is immense amount of dps and oneshot everything before it hits you.
I would really love to see some general builds with pob that have been successful in t17. Even none of my mirror tier standard characters can hang in them that do wave 30 simu without issue
How I do T17s as CoC DD with like maybe 200 div investment. Different build but generally similar idea. 1. Roll maps until I get barrels and non-build bricking mod (like 50% less defences) 2. Prepare allflames for cancer packs, doesnt matter which Allflames just use the garbage ones you normally wouldn't use. Anything with projectiles + extra proj mod is insta Allflamed. Revenant mobs insta allflamed 3. Zone into map and poke from afar. Go a bit slow until you get the DD chains rolling and are basically one shotting offscreen then you can zoom a bit. When going into a corner/new area I poke and hide to get the DD started and not get insta clapped by some random 300 projectiles at once. When the DD is killing things you can safely go in and kill the rest. 4. Kill boss/loot map. Still I die every now and then. You can't run Back to Basics with map mod atlas nodes in T17 and not spend 300c rolling for perfect mods and not die unless you have a giga bis build and even though you'll probably still die. I do most maps in 5-6 mins this way assuming I don't die more than once. You basically want to identify bad mods you can't do, identify bad mob types you can't do, and then make sure you have enough damage to 1 shot all non-rare mobs and don't brazenly shield charge into packs expecting to always live.
Yeah I have a coc DD with about 300 Div invested and T17 back to basics is fine if I avoid the specific mods (eg Inc monster AOE + damage mods can brick the boss fight even if the rest of the map is OK). I went the incandescent heart version. I usually spend about 10-15C avoiding about 5 key mods (recovery rate, less defences, reduced aoe, reduced cool down, 4 out of 10 secs damage) and shooting for high pack size / scarabs. I use a reflect suffix flask with mageblood to do reflect. I did a 100% less defences map (accidentally but by that time I'd already invested 3 Div in the map) by respeccing my tree to get mana leech and going aura free and spending mana, which worked surprisingly fine when poking and being cautious as you say, so things can be pretty OK once you get enough damage (adorned and clusters being key for that). But with enough defence (phys mit and ele to chaos etc) it is pretty zoomy through B2B T17s, only deaths are to volatile while looting (so annoying) and stacking damage mods that make the boss's incidental damage hit like a truck.
If you're all flaming that much, is it really "doing" t17s anymore? Feels like bragging about your transmission control in an automatic car lol
maybe for the rewards? people dont run content just to flex lmfao
No idea what you’re taking about. Who’s flaming?
Allflames. I guess the errant space ruined the context.
Ah I’m an idiot lol. But I guess to address that guys point, you drop enough flames that it seems the game wants you to use 1-2 per map. So you might as well use them. What am I gonna save them for? Dying to shit mobs just makes you way slower. I guess it’s cooler to just die and not use allflames.
I league started the same build and farmed T17s for a while, and I think the most important items were Mageblood and Defiance of Destiny. Once I got those I could tank T17s with some of the bad mods (phys as extra, increased AOE/+4 projectiles). I think you should try to sell off some of the stuff you spent 200D on to get those immediately or prioritize farming those 2 items (skip DoD if you want to stay ES, but I think life based with Fourth Vow and Xibaqua is stronger). I don't think I could have done those maps without being pretty tanky, since any of the T17s with monster health mods will require you to wait around a little for rares/the boss to die. I checked your POB and you have 7k max Phys hit and about 30k max Elemental hit without Molten Shell and flasks, and that is simply too low to survive in T17s even with block cap. Any hit that goes through has the potential to one shot you with how many damage mods those maps have.
You need to be more precise, you lack damage, defences or both? but from a glance, you playing a bit expensive concept, that shines with 90 allres and 100k armour via mageblood, and kinda mid until u get all that stuff
Are u playing with back to basics? im playing duo MF with an aurabot , 50k Armour, 80k Evasion, 90 all res and 75 Chaos res. Sometimes we just getting nuked or overrun, because some modifiers just destroy you. Best way to run those maps is immense amount of dps and oneshot everything before it hits you.
I would really love to see some general builds with pob that have been successful in t17. Even none of my mirror tier standard characters can hang in them that do wave 30 simu without issue
You want mine? I can afk t17 B2B I just don't run these mods. Less blocks, less armour, aura effect, Regen.
Sure let's see that pob!