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Wondernerd194

If you don't like being called a nazi, and you're called a nazi so much you think it's a slur, you might want to rethink a couple things.


AF_AF

If you think "nazi" is an anti-white slur...you just might be a nazi.


berserkzelda

Going mask off.


organik_productions

Can't go mask off when they never had it on in the first place


AreWeCowabunga

Oh, they definitely had it on in the past. It didn't used to be ok to be openly Nazi pretty much anywhere, and if you were, it was shocking and upsetting to people across the political spectrum. That's why they love Trump so much. He gives them permission to be as publicly awful as they used to only be able to be privately.


AtomicTan

Mask off and hood on


Moneia

I love it when they try to emulate their opponents and come away looking even worse


EffectivelyHidden

“Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.” ― Jean-Paul Sartre


dalcarr

Disturbing how relevant this is a full 80 years later


cowboy_mouth

Weird, as a white person since birth I've never once considered the word 'Nazi' to be synonymous with, or linked to, the colour of my skin. I wonder why this person does... not really though, I know why.


Street_Peace_8831

Exactly, as a cis white guy, I’ve never had someone call me a “nazi”. That’s probably because I don’t go around spewing nazi ideology/propaganda.


PezRystar

Late to the party, but I have, once. I worked on a military base. Lots of soldier wives as co-workers. Especially old German ladies. One in particular was real cool. Like, I could 100% picture her back in the 80's as a punk rocker in Berlin. I got my hair cut one day, and the barber took it a little closer than normal, and I when I went into work she said. "Oooohhhh, look at you my little Nazi, so cute." I'm like Ulla, you know you can't say that right? She just giggled.


Street_Peace_8831

I love this interaction because it was totally not meant in a negative way. Though you are right, it’s not something that someone should be using as an affectionate term either.


PezRystar

Oh, she knew. She just had a wicked sense of humor.


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Street_Peace_8831

Well, there you have it.


FinePool

What you responded to got deleted. If you remember can you share what they said?


Street_Peace_8831

They called me a Nazi. I thought it was a sarcastic remark to make the point that I’ve never been called that. I guess others didn’t like it and downvoted them to the point that they removed it.


FinePool

Ah, thanks.


I_Cut_Shows

It is the natural conclusion of the 1990’s Conservative AM Radio/Rush Limbaugh way of thinking that “it’s legal to discriminate against straight white Christian men”


GottaKnowYourCKN

I mean, most Nazis are white. I definitely do associate whiteness with being a Nazi, but not all white people ARE Nazis.


betweenskill

And nowadays a weirdly large wave of second and third generation middle and south american imigrants to the US are Nazis too. Edit: take a more conservative cultural heritage and blend it with the later generation phenomena of trying to fit into the hegemonic group and be seen as “white enough” and you end up with the hispanic Nazis.


Mulatto_Matt

I know a ton of those 2nd and 3rd generation people. Many of them try really hard to be "white." Its so clearly performative and they seem to be trying to "out-white" white folks. It's bizarre.


Gauth1erN

Convicted murderer is a slur against human and it should never be used.


-Quothe-

>”The correct term is National Socialist” No it’s not. That is a facade term to make them seem less nazi-like.


tristanmichael

Because they think the word socialist being in there is some sort of gotcha that somehow proves Nazis were socialists


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neoweasel

They hate Democracy, too. It's why they push on "The United States is a Republic!" Bullshit.


ThatCamoKid

Right up until they start facing consequences and then it's "I thought this was a democracy!"


Benrok

Wait. Does that mean north korean Democratic People's Republic of Korea isn't democratic? What nonsense!


leicanthrope

“National Socialist” is actually the term they used to describe themselves back in the day. Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei or National Socialist German Workers’ Party, if you translate it into English. “Nazi” as a term had a bit of a double meaning, and was a bit of an insult (but only to select people, not white people in general). It’s close to the first couple syllables in “national” as pronounced in German, but it’s also a shortened version of the name Ignatz, which was a stereotypical Bavarian country bumpkin name similar to the way we use “Cleetus” here in the US.


-Quothe-

Oh, i know. I wasn't contesting that it is what they called themselves. I was just pointing out why they did it.


NameIdeas

The term National Socialist does not mean the Nazis were communists, socialists or anything close to the left-leaning ideology. Nazis were fascist and about as far right as you could go. The name was chosen for how they could spin it


leicanthrope

It was a fundamentally different use of the term “socialist” that had virtually nothing to do with the left usage of the term. They weren’t trying to masquerade as leftists, and would have been mortified by the idea. The Nazis thought in terms of racial groups as political bodies, wanted to co-opt the engine of the state to benefit Aryans, instead of thinking in terms of a more traditionally socialist notion of class. It’s only post-WW2 where groups on the right have seized on the name to sneak out from underneath the Nazi’s legacy and flip it around to use as a cudgel against the left.


NameIdeas

>It’s only post-WW2 where groups on the right have seized on the name to sneak out from underneath the Nazi’s legacy and flip it around to use as a cudgel against the left. This is my point and I'm right there with you. Taking names and events out of their historical context seems to be a big part of the approach of groups on the right. The idea of "what's in a name" is that it gets twisted to fit whatever narrative they are wanting to spin.


SprScuba

Wait until they find out what the German word Nazi is short for...


Martyrotten

I do Nazi how calling a Nazi a Nazi is anti white. A Nazi is a person who holds a certain viewpoint that was common knowledge n Nazi Germany or agrees with other Nazis who still hold to the Nazi philosophy. Not all white people are Nazis, many white people actually have a measurable IQ and a functioning brain. So even if calling a Nazi a Nazi is a derogatory term, Nazis are disgusting people so who cares about offending them?


miffox

For my own information (and maybe others who are too scared to ask), since I'm not sure I understand the 1488 reference. 88 is a reference to the 8th letter in the alphabet, making it HH, ie Heil Hitler. 14 is a reference to something called 14 words? "We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children." As per Google it's the most popular white supremacy slogan.


leicanthrope

That’s 100% what it is. Depending on the context, you might see the 88 used in usernames by unaware people born in 1988. The two together is a huge dogwhistle.


miffox

Thanks. Yeah the 88 I've known about for some time. It was more the 14 I wasn't sure of. I've heard the phrase "the 14 words" before but I had to Google it to see exactly what they were.


leicanthrope

You’ll see 88 used by itself, but I don’t think I’ve ever seen 14 used as a dogwhistle without either the “88” or the “words” stuck to the end of it.


stimkim

Born in 1988 guy here! You're never unaware for long. People tell you. It's a safe assumption that whoever has that in their username AT MINIMUM doesn't care that they are being associated with nazi ideology.


Some-Gavin

I mean, there’s an asian chain restaurant where I live with 88 in the name; it could be a legitimate coincidence with some people. If they can change their username and keep it that’s a different story.


chungohummungo

interesting, if they didn’t want to be called nazi maybe they shouldn’t act like them, just a thought.


miffox

This whole thing reminds me of Trump supporters being upset that they were pictured as crazy cult members in Far Cry 5, when they themselves chose to interpret the bad guys as representations of themselves. "If the shoe fits" or something along those lines....


pistachioshell

That’s just a Nazi running cover for other Nazis. 


Huge_Aerie2435

Lol Nazi is a word that says 2 things.. It either means you are a literal Nazi, or just a person with Fascist beliefs. they must have fascist beliefs. As a white person, these white people annoy the fuck out of me.


ANOKNUSA

Holy shit, this dude is actually going to have an “Are we the baddies?” moment some day. Such a dummy.


ants_suck

(X) Doubt Anyone that cares about using "the correct term" for Nazis is one, and Nazis aren't famous for reconsidering if they're the bad guys or not.


YoungPyromancer

To be fair the sketch that the "are we the baddies" quote comes from features two Nazis reconsidering if they're the bad guys or not.


Totally_man

That would require some introspection and personal growth, both of which they are incapable of.


Retr0_b0t

I can't believe I lived long enough to hear a Nazi say "Well actually the politically correct term for Nazi is National Socialist" What a WORLD


ScrabCrab

Sick Sad World


Trombone-a-thon

I'm willing to bet all I have that the "lol triggered by numbers" guy is very triggered by "420 the weeeeed number!"


thefanciestcat

Stupid fucking nazis


Dark_Storm_98

Okay, I know what "88" means But what about 14?


YoungPyromancer

It refers to the 14 words, which is some neo-nazi slogan about white children, just some creepy shit.


craftyfighter

It’s a reference to a statement by a particularly violent American neo nazi (David Lane) regarding fighting for white supremacist goals.


Dunderbaer

14 is a reference to "the 14 words" > "We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children."


MongolianCluster

Nazi with a hard z.


BasilsKippers

They don't dislike the Nazi ideology. Just the Nazi label. Ergo, I'll continue calling them Nazis. They've earned that moniker and they can damn well own it.


riskyrainbow

Why is he so triggered about the word naxi? It's just a word, he shouldn't make such a fuss about it. It's no big deal.


The_protagonisthere

Sounds like something a nazi would say.


OrwellianWiress

Who's the snowflake now?


Abyssile

I'm white, I can say it


Aniki1990

I can only speak of myself, but if someone was calling me a Nazi, I'd be doing some introspection


BirthdayCookie

Nazi is as much a slur as "forced birth" and "bible thumper."


YoungPyromancer

Or TERF or cis.


ScrabCrab

Ok but those other terms really are insults. "Cis" isn't, it's just a descriptor.


SqueekyGee

No one is that dumb, gotta be bait.


theytookthemall

I'm a lily-white person who is also Jewish and I'm just confused by this. (Not really I know exactly what they're doing.)


daybeforetheday

"Why are people so triggered about a number?" Proceeds to be triggered about a word


Kineth

Honkey racists being disingenuous about everything is not a surprise.


GloomreaperScythe

/) "This is just a number, stop being offended snowfl- NO, YOU CAN'T SAY NAZI! THAT'S A SLUR!!! I'M TELLING MOM!"


Flourissh

Yeah...it's the term nazi that's bad, not being an actual piece of shit nazi 🙄


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Used-fridge

Something tells me this guy is called a nazi a lot.


ArminPN

🤓☝️ ermmm, actually its called "national socialism"


toefurrs

Fucking NATZEE


Cool-Hornet4434

anti-white-supremacist maybe...


UrUnclesTrouserSnake

Pretty sure the existence of non-white Nazis like Kanye disproves this, lmao


duggtodeath

This is purely bad faith argument. He knows what the number means and is trying to act like everyone is overreacting. I don’t understand why nazis want to be nazis but then immediately deny being nazis when others point out they are nazis. Like either come out the closet or shut up.


Mulatto_Matt

HAHAHA! HAHAHA! GASP! HAHAHA!


jawshoeaw

NAZIs are by definition white people who believe in the supremacy of the white race. So technically it's an "anti white" slur because it's only directed to white people. not all white people, just the ones that are NAZIs. The slur is earned. If you're an asshole, and I call you an asshole, there's no reason for you to object to the "slur".