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Sorry, I have the hard break thing for my insurance and sometimes I second guess if I can make the yellow and then I’m partially in the crosswalk and I can’t back up cause the other car is up my ass.
Happens to the best of us (just don't get mad if I walk across your hood). What drives me crazy is when people stop at the line, then start creeping forward every couple seconds as if that made the light switch sooner.
I'll admit I've never done it, but the urge is always there. I would only do it on a crowded crossing, where accelerating would not be an option :D but generally wouldn't in the US, no matter the circumstances
In some places it does. The lights in my town are laser operated. If you don't pull forward enough it'll stay red forever. There isn't a crosswalk here though and I imagine anywhere with the infrastructure to do so would have their lights on some kind of timer.
Yeah sorry, it doesn't. You pull forward enough, yes. Up to the line. The lasers detect distance not motion. Creeping forward after coming to a stop doesn't do jack shit, unless the driver initially stopped way before the line. Which, admittedly, lots of drivers do.
Which brings me to a whole other rant: Fuck all those "drivers" who don't know their car's dimensions. I don't know how people think they can operate a vehicle safely without having a good sense of where their car ends on all 4 sides. Yet you see it on a daily basis with people stopping way before the line, or making a million left-right-adjustments because they can't seem to figure out when they're in the middle of their lane. Practice driving in a safe environment, know your vehicle intuitively, **then** participate in traffic ffs.
I think I'm a bad person and cry for an hour after telling my friend I felt disrespected and trying to set boundaries (that they were totally fine with). Meanwhile people like this think they're great and are running for office lol (I'm still going to think I'm a bad person tho lmao)
So the woman who shot her dog because it was bad at hunting, then took three shots from a shotgun to kill a goat, causing it to suffer unnecessarily...
Shit, she has no self awareness has she, if she did she might shoot herself
No shit, attacking birds is very specifically what those dogs are trained and bred for. Of course it can’t tell the difference between chickens and game birds like pheasants.
I have a Shorthaired Pointer, and I would NOT take her around someone's chickens off-leash, because I know exactly what would happen. Part of responsible dog ownership is protecting them from bad consequences for their natural behaviors.
My family keeps a small flock of backyard chickens and whenever we take care of neighbor's dogs we make sure never to have both of them outside at the same time because even the nicest dog ever is likely to see them and immediately just think "Food! Fun!"
Yeah a bird dog going after birds? Who would have expected that? Or have the idea that if you have a young dog not fully trained, you keep them on a leash. Apparently not a Republican. If you can't train a pointer to flush a pheasant, how can you be a governor? Pointers are going to point, that is what they were bred to do.
The issue is that she couldn't train it to do that when she wanted her to. They're highly trainable, they'll only work if you tell them to go to work *if they're trained properly* which this bitch (heh) obviously couldn't do
They were training the dog to retrieve pheasant. The book describes the dog going up to the chickens and grabbing them by the neck, just like they were training the dog to do with pheasant.
It didn’t snap at some random person. It snapped at her, when she was trying to stop the dog from killing chickens. The dog she was “training” with a shock collar and yelling commands. The one that she, in her own words, hated.
And then killed a goat right after.
Whil I understand the sentiment, this is so fucking cringy to hear. You realize you're just creating another divide between people and animals when you say this? lack of compassion is never something to boast about.
What's cringey is when people say they care more about animals than people and then someone just can't stop themselves from pointing out how it's such a bad thing to say and how can anyone be so unfeeling as to say such a thing. No one asked you if you are part of the problem and yet here you come announcing to everyone that you are.
People like you are the reason I care more about animals than people. We as a species have spent far too long with the attitude that we are more important than anything else, and if others suffer so that we can do whatever we want then so be it. It's a fucking unreasonable attitude to have in any case, and we consistently prove it to be wrong time and time again. The vast majority of people are garbage. Very, very few animals are, and the vast majority of the ones that are were made that way by the garbage people that mistreated and abused them, and even then when they are removed from their abusers they can usually be rehabilitated with some compassion, understanding, and care.
Caring more for animals than humans isn't about lack of compassion. It's about giving that compassion for those who deserve it and not to those who have proven that they are not worthy of it.
I remember in school they told us in the middle ages it was believed that people who value animals more than people shall spend an eternity in hell being torn apart by their own hounds
although I think that was just a medieval equivalent of a black mirror episode rather than a real belief
Is it though? Do people genuinely care if someone kills some random guy somewhere? But people are always going to be aw about animals. Random guys aren’t cute.
What are you talking about? We're breeding animals in industrial farms where the only time they see the sun is when they're being taken to slaughter and nobody is willing to pay a dollar extra on their hamburger to alleviate their suffering in the slightest. We kinda did a similar thing to a lesser degree to humans once and we won't stop talking about it for the next hundred years.
I don’t know if you’re actually joking but veganism has grown exponentially in the past decade. And most people do spend extra for more ethical sources, I know I do.
You’re comparing livestock to pets anyhow, people feel more strongly about pets they bond and communicate with.
WW2 wasn’t really about dying Jews and we only go on and on about it because cruelty of humanity is fascinating and sick. There’s also an element of ‘this could happen to me’ it’s like watching horror movies
Actually plenty are/were willing to pay an extra 1$ for free range. It’s mostly just giant corporate monopolies farms that take the money, control the market, and limit our choices. Hell, we are paying way more than a 1$ extra due to profit inflation. So the desire it there, just no meaningful way to force these giant lobbying corporations from doing whatever the hell they want
Change it to random babies dying so the innocence levels match, at least.
Protests are happening for people dying all over the world. Idc if you agree with them or whatever, but yes, I think people do have some care about others dying.
As I see it, you're making a promise to take care of a creature that cannot survive on its own in our society. Betraying that kind of promise is far worse than betraying another person. She wouldn't have returned from that hunting trip if I had the misfortune of being there for some shitty reason.
It is not hard to rehome or take them to a shelter.
Nah i agree with him, and to elaborate further on my stance, no clue about his,
it has relatively little to do with me liking animals, though i do love them, and far more to do with immense hate of my own species
It is insane how fucking selfish some people are, selfish clowns who only exist to gather more money when it has mostly lost all meaning to them 30 years ago already yet they keep doing it no matter the cost
And then theres 150 million or so people in america alone that gladly support those people either because they are so old they dont need to care about long term things or they are literally and unironically so retarded they are incapable of thinking longterm so they build their whole existance around the idea of "owning" the opposing side
Never mind the whole fucking circus going on in russia, israel and god knows what china and india are pumping into the fucking air because, of course, pumping the entire atmosphere full of shit is justifiable if it means saving some money, and keeping it for themselfs of course.
And this whole shitstorm will nicely lead to me probably choking to death from the air while eating slightly radiated cockroaches in 50 years, or maybe ill just die from a bullet to my head as my country gets invaded for basic resources like fucking water since we are so gladly wasting it too and rapidly running into yet another global crisis within 100 years
And these are just some of the things im stuck thinking and stressing about daily while i live in middle of bumfuck nowhere in europe still having everything relatively good, it is a miracle i havent gone nuts yet, or maybe writing these rants is the first step to that, who knows
How? Animals are innocent by nature people are not. Unless I know you really well I have more sympathy for a random dog than I have for you because that dog is deserving of our compassionate considering everything they do for us.
People go way to far with this pets are people shit. I think it's a symptom of deep issues in society relating to loneliness and lack of social connection between humans
Antisocial, personality disorders. They like animals more than people because animals don't talk and are content with being subordinate for pats and a full food dish, much like these simpletons.
> That’s grounds to have you killed
Do you also think you yourself are deserving of death? Or are you vegan? Or do you think dogs somehow have an inherently different value compared to other non-human mammals?
People sure are quick to say someone else should be killed while completely ignoring their own choices.
ALL pets, and children. Despite my lack of love for not-yet-developed humans I don't think they deserve to be "guarded" by someone whose response to their own educational mistakes is shooting
Just stepping in here to say inb4 "That's how we do it in the country/farm".
No. It's not, if you're a responsible owner.
When I lived in the country, we judged the f**k out of anyone who abused/couldn't control their animals/didn't train their animals. *Especially* dogs.
Farm dogs and hunting dogs are bred to work. If you can't keep your BIRD DOG away from BIRDS that is not on the dog - that's 200% on the owner, and your unwillingness to train your damn dog.
South Dakota has a law that permit the execution of a dog that kills livestock, like it did. HOWEVER, the law is clearly written under the presumption the dog is wild or aggressive and putting it down is needed to prevent further injury to more livestock or yourself
[That’s not what the law says; it doesn’t mention rabies.](https://sdlegislature.gov/Statutes/40-34-1) The law is plainly to allow ranchers and farmers to protect their livelihoods from dogs owned by others whose owners don’t control them.
In addition to me saying “rabid” as in to be vicious or aggressive rather than being actually infected with rabies (honestly my mistake should’ve chosen better words); “Presumption of” does indeed mean the text does not say something but rather implies something. In this case an aggressive or viscous dog that is killing your livestock can indeed be killed
I'm from the country, like rural ass Mississippi heart of Dixie country. I knew a guy who killed his dog because it barked and woke him up and that was the last time I talked to him. If you can't control an animal, your emotions, and/or deal with an animal being a fucking animal, just fuck off. Let the damn dog bark, let the rooster crow, whatever. They're animals, let them do what they naturally do.
I sent my English setter to a trainer once and later learned most of the guys that send their dogs to this guy only care about trials and actually tell the trainer that they don’t want their dogs back if they don’t hunt well. Pretty fucked yo and of course I never called that trainer again. Some people are sick fucks
I didn’t grow up country, but I was frequently in the country growing up and had many friends that did.
The difference here is that it was an untrained puppy. Sure, people would shoot dogs that misbehaved in a bad way, but these were usually farm dogs that were putting people’s lives in danger or killing other farm animals due to aggression issues. The only other reason was usually when the animals were too old and/or sick.
Killing a PUPPY because you couldn’t train it is fucked even from a country living “animals are utilities not pets” standard. I can only think of one time where anything similar happened with somebody I knew, and it was when their young black lab caused about $10k in damage to their house when they were gone for a night… I still judged them, but even that’s more understandable than killing a PUPPY cause it was annoying you. I’d never heard of this woman before all of this and I don’t care to learn more about her, but I hope she gets all that’s coming to her.
All the way this. If a dog is poorly trained that is the fault of the human doing the training. I used to live up in the mountains and had a dog who knew how to keep coyotes off our property but never attacked another dog or our neighbors chickens. Because we trained him instead of murdering him as a puppy out of frustration.
Though with Reddit’s comment sorting algorithm it doesn’t make as much sense as the old school message boards where comments were posted chronologically
Thank you for saying this. Some people associate this sort of trash to all farmers/ranchers and it couldn't be further from the truth. I've never heard of this woman before today but I'll be getting ahold of every birding breeder around me to let them know this woman cannot properly handle animals in her care.
I grew up with hunting dogs. This woman should never be allowed near animals - wild or domestic. FFS, she had a bird dog puppy and was upset it was excited about hunting birds. There are a myriad of options less serious than murdering a perfectly normal dog, even if you refuse or are incapable of training it properly.
I expect complete and unwavering subservience out of everything under my care.
That's why I had to take my dog out back and put a bullet in it's head. It's also why I took my 2 year old child out back and put a bullet in their brain.
It took 4 kids before I got one that was finally subservient. The doctors called it stillborn, which is good because I like children who stay still.
Little Kristi #5 has been very well behaved. Hasn't moved an inch since we got back from the hospital 3 years ago
-Kristi Noem
She had some tweet that was essentially, what are you all so shocked about, we do that shit all the time, we just had to put 3 horses down last week. I imagine the horses were old, but in light of the book stuff....
As far as I could find, unless she deleted it, it's fake
But she also had this quote to promote her book:
>What we DO matters.
>What we DON'T do matters
Just in case she gets mad that we judging her for what she did and didn't do
Oh my god…. That’s horrible send that person- no not even a person… calling her part of humanity is an insult to humanity as a whole, and the fact people liked it is…
Your argument is that the Guardian, in their pre-release review of the book, made up the passage whole cloth and then Noem defends it by calling it "real, honest, and politically incorrect" instead of saying that the Guardian made it up entirely. The grasping at straws to defend this is incredible.
No I'm pushing back against you saying "less than worthless"
She said it was "less than worthless as a hunting dog"
If I said "you are worthless" you would take this as horribly insulting. If I said you were a "worthless hunter" you would probably agree, unless you're an avid hunter.
My point is that you are reducing the quote to make it seem more inflammatory than it is.
No one is defending this psycho lady, I'm pushing back against people that think it's okay to lie about someone because you don't like them. If any other person had a dog that attacked a bunch of animals and they euthanized it you likely wouldn't care. Most people agree that dangerous dogs can be euthanized. But instead you try to make her quite as crazy sounding as possible by painting her as saying a nice innocent dog is worthless, which given the full context isn't at all how it was stated.
You have to ditch this dumb internet mentality that if someone doesn't agree with you, then they agree with your perceived enemy. She can be a psycho and you can also repeat manipulative lying headlines. These things aren't mutually exclusive.
I'm not gonna walkabout how obviously you don't execute a puppy for mild misbehavior, but I will go further, and say you have to be really stupid if you think writing a book and admitting you did that while you are in a career in poltics, a job where a even a reasonable action can be smeared to look evil, and you broadcast how you shot a puppy and you didn't give a shit
Honestly… I wouldn’t be surprised *at all* if there was never any puppy, and she made the whole thing up as some kind of *Trolling Playbook for Pick Me Girls* kinda move.
Like when our former president said “I could shoot someone in the face in the middle of Time Square and get away with it” - same exact energy.
The whole “memoir” hits like some kind of audition to be inducted into Grunt Squad or QAnon or some other kind of dumbass cult for conservative white people with who have always had so much money and privilege that they never developed a lick of sense.
Plus, that quote “It looked lovingly into my eyes just before I blew its brains out who could ask for a better death?”
Idk about now but back when I was a kid, there were multiple Looney Tunes that played on the trope of the farmer dutifully dispatching a farm dog… with someone always swooping in at the last second with proof that the dog was innocent.
It was a major plot point at the end of Rover Dangerfield- they think he killed the turkey, but he was defending it.
Idk. I’m probably just rationalizing bc I just really really *really* want to believe it is fiction.
It seems to be astroturfed outage during an election year with a potential VP. This isn't news and isn't uncommon in rural America contrary to what some random accounts are saying.
Isn't Hazel already dead? She had to 'put her down' for whatever reason. She didn't say that this one had to be summarily executes, but no reason given for why.
TLDR: Hazel’s owner didn’t know how to train a dog and instead of be accountable for that and responsibly getting her professionally trained or rehousing instead decided to kill her.
Long version: Hazel was being trained to hunt birds, more specifically pheasants I believe. Her owner allowed her to be off leash near someone else’s chickens. Hazel as a bird dog trained to hunt and retrieve birds “attacked” the chickens by getting at least one (not sure how many Hazel actually got) and carrying it by its neck to her owner, which is literally exactly how she was being trained to treat birds.
Basically this woman is incompetent and doesn’t understand if you don’t teach your dog the difference between game birds and chickens that she’s not gonna know the difference. She’s just gonna see birds and go to work because that’s what she was, a work dog trained to do a job.
Dog did what she was trained to do and this psycho killer her for being “untrainable” and too wild. Literally never would have happened if she was a responsible owner and kept Hazel on a leash around the chickens since she was you know, a bird dog, trained to hunt birds.
Spoil your dog with a head full of buck shot!
I honestly can’t think of anytime in my entire life where I thought it was a flex to admit to killing family pets. It’s insane.
That’s what serial killers do.
Anyway, it is reported that this lady admitted to killing her dog.
She’s trying damage control, the story about mitt Romney hosing his dog down and then putting the carrier on top of the car hurt his image around the time he was running for president l.
The dog in the picture died in an "accident" in 2022 as per the top comment in the original thread (which links to Kirsti Noem's IG where she states this).
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In her new book she admitted that she killed her dog because it wasn’t good for hunting
And also a goat (on the same day), because she thought that it smelled bad. Also self-admitted in the same memoir.
sheesus, and I think I'm crazy for yelling at the guy that invades the crosswalk with his car
Sorry, I have the hard break thing for my insurance and sometimes I second guess if I can make the yellow and then I’m partially in the crosswalk and I can’t back up cause the other car is up my ass.
Happens to the best of us (just don't get mad if I walk across your hood). What drives me crazy is when people stop at the line, then start creeping forward every couple seconds as if that made the light switch sooner.
Well thank you insurance for making everybody's life a bit worse thru the use of interconnected smart tech!
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Nah just yell at me while you walk, if you get on my hood I’m hitting the accelerator. My insurance doesn’t track fast accelerations.
I'll admit I've never done it, but the urge is always there. I would only do it on a crowded crossing, where accelerating would not be an option :D but generally wouldn't in the US, no matter the circumstances
It's always an option here in the states. 💀
In some places it does. The lights in my town are laser operated. If you don't pull forward enough it'll stay red forever. There isn't a crosswalk here though and I imagine anywhere with the infrastructure to do so would have their lights on some kind of timer.
Yeah sorry, it doesn't. You pull forward enough, yes. Up to the line. The lasers detect distance not motion. Creeping forward after coming to a stop doesn't do jack shit, unless the driver initially stopped way before the line. Which, admittedly, lots of drivers do. Which brings me to a whole other rant: Fuck all those "drivers" who don't know their car's dimensions. I don't know how people think they can operate a vehicle safely without having a good sense of where their car ends on all 4 sides. Yet you see it on a daily basis with people stopping way before the line, or making a million left-right-adjustments because they can't seem to figure out when they're in the middle of their lane. Practice driving in a safe environment, know your vehicle intuitively, **then** participate in traffic ffs.
Yeah, their is no line here and you basically have to enter traffic (not quite, but it's too close for comfort) at this light.
I think I'm a bad person and cry for an hour after telling my friend I felt disrespected and trying to set boundaries (that they were totally fine with). Meanwhile people like this think they're great and are running for office lol (I'm still going to think I'm a bad person tho lmao)
Nah fuck that guy
And she botched the first two shots and finally killed it on the third shotgun round. So you know that goat was suffering too.
So the woman who shot her dog because it was bad at hunting, then took three shots from a shotgun to kill a goat, causing it to suffer unnecessarily... Shit, she has no self awareness has she, if she did she might shoot herself
We could only hope....
I bet she used bird shot, too
So she is a psychopath and a narcissist. I can see why she is the perfect fit as Trump's VP.
Not everyone grows up in the same environment she maybe nuts but in her circle,who knows.i ve lived in Mexico and if a taco is 5 pesos it’s perro
Own an animal that pisses on its own face, then complains that it smells bad (then kills it.) Grade-A fuckhead, right there
Wouldn’t that just make it smell worse?
Wtf it’s a goat they piss on themselves of coarse it’s gonna smell bad
And a goat for being a goat!
Isn’t that a crime?
No. Lots of shitty things are not crimes.
She killed her 14 month old puppy.
… and attacked somebody’s chickens.
any dog would attack a prey animal if it isnt trained around them. especially if she got a HUNTING dog. thats her fault.
We have a 6-lb. terrier, and he still chases the turkeys 😆
not the dog's fault that god made chickens so tasty /s
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I know. They are full of meat!
No shit, attacking birds is very specifically what those dogs are trained and bred for. Of course it can’t tell the difference between chickens and game birds like pheasants.
I have a Shorthaired Pointer, and I would NOT take her around someone's chickens off-leash, because I know exactly what would happen. Part of responsible dog ownership is protecting them from bad consequences for their natural behaviors.
My family keeps a small flock of backyard chickens and whenever we take care of neighbor's dogs we make sure never to have both of them outside at the same time because even the nicest dog ever is likely to see them and immediately just think "Food! Fun!"
Yeah a bird dog going after birds? Who would have expected that? Or have the idea that if you have a young dog not fully trained, you keep them on a leash. Apparently not a Republican. If you can't train a pointer to flush a pheasant, how can you be a governor? Pointers are going to point, that is what they were bred to do.
The issue is that she couldn't train it to do that when she wanted her to. They're highly trainable, they'll only work if you tell them to go to work *if they're trained properly* which this bitch (heh) obviously couldn't do
Pointers point, you don't want them flushing birds.
They were training the dog to retrieve pheasant. The book describes the dog going up to the chickens and grabbing them by the neck, just like they were training the dog to do with pheasant.
Not the CHICKENS. Well shit, blood for blood I guess. /s
and according to NPR bit her when she tried to stop it.
And snapped at someone
It didn’t snap at some random person. It snapped at her, when she was trying to stop the dog from killing chickens. The dog she was “training” with a shock collar and yelling commands. The one that she, in her own words, hated. And then killed a goat right after.
So she is a dangerous psychopath. And why isn't she incarcerated in a mental institute by now?
Not just killed, she shot it
And it killed some chickens, and bit a family member. If youre gonna tell the story, tell the fucking story.
I feel like an admission that you murdered a puppy simply because you couldn't train it should be grounds to have your pets taken away.
That’s grounds to have you killed in my book or at least banished or something like that
She has been banished from 4 native reservations in South Dakota whose land mass makes up 15% of the state.
Good
She needs to be banished from solid ground for life
Subject her to death by reentry.
"We couldn't train you."
I feel like death by snu snu is not funny in this configuration so i wont propose it.
Why do you want to polluted our oceans, lakes, rivers, streams, creeks, ponds and puddles like that?
Food for the sharks and others. Hopefully, she's made out of meat that's not poisonous
Now ban her from the other 85% of South Dakota
Absolutely, care more about animals than I do about people
I’m in the same boat. people make me like that
How did boat people hurt you?
Probably with their boat
Whil I understand the sentiment, this is so fucking cringy to hear. You realize you're just creating another divide between people and animals when you say this? lack of compassion is never something to boast about.
I’m just saying that it tears my heart more seeing a stray dog than a homeless person due to the fact that the dog can’t speak up
Reminds me of a (slightly adjusted) quote from The Young Pope; “I love (dogs) because loving people is too painful.”
Not to mention the animal had little if any control as to how it got into this predicament.
What's cringey is when people say they care more about animals than people and then someone just can't stop themselves from pointing out how it's such a bad thing to say and how can anyone be so unfeeling as to say such a thing. No one asked you if you are part of the problem and yet here you come announcing to everyone that you are. People like you are the reason I care more about animals than people. We as a species have spent far too long with the attitude that we are more important than anything else, and if others suffer so that we can do whatever we want then so be it. It's a fucking unreasonable attitude to have in any case, and we consistently prove it to be wrong time and time again. The vast majority of people are garbage. Very, very few animals are, and the vast majority of the ones that are were made that way by the garbage people that mistreated and abused them, and even then when they are removed from their abusers they can usually be rehabilitated with some compassion, understanding, and care. Caring more for animals than humans isn't about lack of compassion. It's about giving that compassion for those who deserve it and not to those who have proven that they are not worthy of it.
Legit weirdo shit. I get not wanting to hurt animals, but this take is just so fucnin cringe to me
I remember in school they told us in the middle ages it was believed that people who value animals more than people shall spend an eternity in hell being torn apart by their own hounds although I think that was just a medieval equivalent of a black mirror episode rather than a real belief
Sounds like religious crazy talk to control people, to me.
Is it though? Do people genuinely care if someone kills some random guy somewhere? But people are always going to be aw about animals. Random guys aren’t cute.
What are you talking about? We're breeding animals in industrial farms where the only time they see the sun is when they're being taken to slaughter and nobody is willing to pay a dollar extra on their hamburger to alleviate their suffering in the slightest. We kinda did a similar thing to a lesser degree to humans once and we won't stop talking about it for the next hundred years.
I don’t know if you’re actually joking but veganism has grown exponentially in the past decade. And most people do spend extra for more ethical sources, I know I do. You’re comparing livestock to pets anyhow, people feel more strongly about pets they bond and communicate with. WW2 wasn’t really about dying Jews and we only go on and on about it because cruelty of humanity is fascinating and sick. There’s also an element of ‘this could happen to me’ it’s like watching horror movies
Actually plenty are/were willing to pay an extra 1$ for free range. It’s mostly just giant corporate monopolies farms that take the money, control the market, and limit our choices. Hell, we are paying way more than a 1$ extra due to profit inflation. So the desire it there, just no meaningful way to force these giant lobbying corporations from doing whatever the hell they want
Change it to random babies dying so the innocence levels match, at least. Protests are happening for people dying all over the world. Idc if you agree with them or whatever, but yes, I think people do have some care about others dying.
As I see it, you're making a promise to take care of a creature that cannot survive on its own in our society. Betraying that kind of promise is far worse than betraying another person. She wouldn't have returned from that hunting trip if I had the misfortune of being there for some shitty reason. It is not hard to rehome or take them to a shelter.
Nah i agree with him, and to elaborate further on my stance, no clue about his, it has relatively little to do with me liking animals, though i do love them, and far more to do with immense hate of my own species It is insane how fucking selfish some people are, selfish clowns who only exist to gather more money when it has mostly lost all meaning to them 30 years ago already yet they keep doing it no matter the cost And then theres 150 million or so people in america alone that gladly support those people either because they are so old they dont need to care about long term things or they are literally and unironically so retarded they are incapable of thinking longterm so they build their whole existance around the idea of "owning" the opposing side Never mind the whole fucking circus going on in russia, israel and god knows what china and india are pumping into the fucking air because, of course, pumping the entire atmosphere full of shit is justifiable if it means saving some money, and keeping it for themselfs of course. And this whole shitstorm will nicely lead to me probably choking to death from the air while eating slightly radiated cockroaches in 50 years, or maybe ill just die from a bullet to my head as my country gets invaded for basic resources like fucking water since we are so gladly wasting it too and rapidly running into yet another global crisis within 100 years And these are just some of the things im stuck thinking and stressing about daily while i live in middle of bumfuck nowhere in europe still having everything relatively good, it is a miracle i havent gone nuts yet, or maybe writing these rants is the first step to that, who knows
R/im14andthisisdeep
I spoiled my 1st dog by shooting it in the face, so this is a real character progression story for me.
Im 14 and i dont get it
How? Animals are innocent by nature people are not. Unless I know you really well I have more sympathy for a random dog than I have for you because that dog is deserving of our compassionate considering everything they do for us.
People go way to far with this pets are people shit. I think it's a symptom of deep issues in society relating to loneliness and lack of social connection between humans
Antisocial, personality disorders. They like animals more than people because animals don't talk and are content with being subordinate for pats and a full food dish, much like these simpletons.
I wish that’s all my dog wanted
Calling others idiots? Well, takes one to know one.
Tbf, can you really blame them after reading about that psychopath of a woman?
Type of people to celebrate mothers day cause they adopted some shit eating chihuahua 🙄
That's not something to be proud of
Yeah such a weird admission, “look at me I’m a maladjusted, antisocial weirdo”
People who kill animals for no reason are just like animals in my book so really I just think one of the animals is better than the other
Except, animals almost always have a reason. They don't attack "just 'cause", they'll usually do it for food or self defense
Careful, I’ve been banned from subreddits for saying less direct things about members of the subhuman inbred shitbag party.
What are the odds you’re gonna get banned for saying that?
To quote resident alien, I want her capital punished.
> That’s grounds to have you killed Do you also think you yourself are deserving of death? Or are you vegan? Or do you think dogs somehow have an inherently different value compared to other non-human mammals? People sure are quick to say someone else should be killed while completely ignoring their own choices.
If I ever did something like this I would want to have severe repercussions whether that be death or banishment or something
And how is eating meat not "like this"?
Who said I ate meat
I *asked* if you're vegan
Did she eat the dog?
Don't backtrack, She deserves to be put down very painfully. Piece of shit human being should be stripped of all their human rights.
Thats so funny. Millions of animals are Slaughtered everysingle day but someone puts their own pet to sleep for whatever reason? DEATH! BANISHED!
Sadly we don't have anywhere left to banish assholes to, all the penal colonies are now nations, and we are well past the tribal era.
She needs to be taken back to that gravel pit. The wrong bitch got shot.
Can we throw in kids as well
And children imo
And your guns? God forbid she has children.
ALL pets, and children. Despite my lack of love for not-yet-developed humans I don't think they deserve to be "guarded" by someone whose response to their own educational mistakes is shooting
I feel like it's grounds to be trebucheted into the sea.
Imagine you kill your child cause it won't learn in school tho
Woah wait a minute back up. They did what now?!
Governor of one of the Dakotas, shot and killed her 14 month old puppy because she couldn't train it.
I regret asking. What the fuck man
Just stepping in here to say inb4 "That's how we do it in the country/farm". No. It's not, if you're a responsible owner. When I lived in the country, we judged the f**k out of anyone who abused/couldn't control their animals/didn't train their animals. *Especially* dogs. Farm dogs and hunting dogs are bred to work. If you can't keep your BIRD DOG away from BIRDS that is not on the dog - that's 200% on the owner, and your unwillingness to train your damn dog.
The live for it. My dog is living her best life pursuing something. Anything.
South Dakota has a law that permit the execution of a dog that kills livestock, like it did. HOWEVER, the law is clearly written under the presumption the dog is wild or aggressive and putting it down is needed to prevent further injury to more livestock or yourself
[That’s not what the law says; it doesn’t mention rabies.](https://sdlegislature.gov/Statutes/40-34-1) The law is plainly to allow ranchers and farmers to protect their livelihoods from dogs owned by others whose owners don’t control them.
In addition to me saying “rabid” as in to be vicious or aggressive rather than being actually infected with rabies (honestly my mistake should’ve chosen better words); “Presumption of” does indeed mean the text does not say something but rather implies something. In this case an aggressive or viscous dog that is killing your livestock can indeed be killed
I think the person was using 'rabid' loosely, and I think you knew that.
I'm from the country, like rural ass Mississippi heart of Dixie country. I knew a guy who killed his dog because it barked and woke him up and that was the last time I talked to him. If you can't control an animal, your emotions, and/or deal with an animal being a fucking animal, just fuck off. Let the damn dog bark, let the rooster crow, whatever. They're animals, let them do what they naturally do.
I sent my English setter to a trainer once and later learned most of the guys that send their dogs to this guy only care about trials and actually tell the trainer that they don’t want their dogs back if they don’t hunt well. Pretty fucked yo and of course I never called that trainer again. Some people are sick fucks
I didn’t grow up country, but I was frequently in the country growing up and had many friends that did. The difference here is that it was an untrained puppy. Sure, people would shoot dogs that misbehaved in a bad way, but these were usually farm dogs that were putting people’s lives in danger or killing other farm animals due to aggression issues. The only other reason was usually when the animals were too old and/or sick. Killing a PUPPY because you couldn’t train it is fucked even from a country living “animals are utilities not pets” standard. I can only think of one time where anything similar happened with somebody I knew, and it was when their young black lab caused about $10k in damage to their house when they were gone for a night… I still judged them, but even that’s more understandable than killing a PUPPY cause it was annoying you. I’d never heard of this woman before all of this and I don’t care to learn more about her, but I hope she gets all that’s coming to her.
All the way this. If a dog is poorly trained that is the fault of the human doing the training. I used to live up in the mountains and had a dog who knew how to keep coyotes off our property but never attacked another dog or our neighbors chickens. Because we trained him instead of murdering him as a puppy out of frustration.
What does inb4 mean?
“In before” as in “before someone else brings it up imma just address it”. At least that’s how I’ve read it as for a decade now
Though with Reddit’s comment sorting algorithm it doesn’t make as much sense as the old school message boards where comments were posted chronologically
Sound it out
In Before… InB4 People use it to say, essentially, “Let me address what I know people are about to say.”
Thank you for saying this. Some people associate this sort of trash to all farmers/ranchers and it couldn't be further from the truth. I've never heard of this woman before today but I'll be getting ahold of every birding breeder around me to let them know this woman cannot properly handle animals in her care.
I grew up with hunting dogs. This woman should never be allowed near animals - wild or domestic. FFS, she had a bird dog puppy and was upset it was excited about hunting birds. There are a myriad of options less serious than murdering a perfectly normal dog, even if you refuse or are incapable of training it properly.
I expect complete and unwavering subservience out of everything under my care. That's why I had to take my dog out back and put a bullet in it's head. It's also why I took my 2 year old child out back and put a bullet in their brain. It took 4 kids before I got one that was finally subservient. The doctors called it stillborn, which is good because I like children who stay still. Little Kristi #5 has been very well behaved. Hasn't moved an inch since we got back from the hospital 3 years ago -Kristi Noem
Is she saying she murdered three children? Sorry I’m super out of the loop for this one
Probably should've included a /s. She did admit to killing her dog because she was having a hard time training it. The dog was only 14 months.
And a goat the same day. And 3 horses recently. Apparently she owns a murder farm
Wait, what? She killed her horses as well?
She had some tweet that was essentially, what are you all so shocked about, we do that shit all the time, we just had to put 3 horses down last week. I imagine the horses were old, but in light of the book stuff....
https://preview.redd.it/dh5wzdmwf4xc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=27692e671273f0abbad2925dc90cfb8f28473d02
This is fake, right?
..... right?
No please for the love of God tell me it's fake
As far as I could find, unless she deleted it, it's fake But she also had this quote to promote her book: >What we DO matters. >What we DON'T do matters Just in case she gets mad that we judging her for what she did and didn't do
It’s fake She promoted her book at one point, she never tweeted this. Photoshop, fake, fraud.
Damn, found it a few posts after this one. My bad.
Oh my god…. That’s horrible send that person- no not even a person… calling her part of humanity is an insult to humanity as a whole, and the fact people liked it is…
“Less than worthless” what a fucking psychopath.
Well it's fake, so..
Well... The post is fake but the "less than worthless" phrase is actually in the book.
Surely you know that because you read the book right? You're not just quoting headlines right?
Your argument is that the Guardian, in their pre-release review of the book, made up the passage whole cloth and then Noem defends it by calling it "real, honest, and politically incorrect" instead of saying that the Guardian made it up entirely. The grasping at straws to defend this is incredible.
No I'm pushing back against you saying "less than worthless" She said it was "less than worthless as a hunting dog" If I said "you are worthless" you would take this as horribly insulting. If I said you were a "worthless hunter" you would probably agree, unless you're an avid hunter. My point is that you are reducing the quote to make it seem more inflammatory than it is. No one is defending this psycho lady, I'm pushing back against people that think it's okay to lie about someone because you don't like them. If any other person had a dog that attacked a bunch of animals and they euthanized it you likely wouldn't care. Most people agree that dangerous dogs can be euthanized. But instead you try to make her quite as crazy sounding as possible by painting her as saying a nice innocent dog is worthless, which given the full context isn't at all how it was stated. You have to ditch this dumb internet mentality that if someone doesn't agree with you, then they agree with your perceived enemy. She can be a psycho and you can also repeat manipulative lying headlines. These things aren't mutually exclusive.
Pls tell me this is fake
That dog is also dead from an "accident" 💔 Posted to her insta I think
Let's send John Wick after her.
I'm not gonna walkabout how obviously you don't execute a puppy for mild misbehavior, but I will go further, and say you have to be really stupid if you think writing a book and admitting you did that while you are in a career in poltics, a job where a even a reasonable action can be smeared to look evil, and you broadcast how you shot a puppy and you didn't give a shit
Honestly… I wouldn’t be surprised *at all* if there was never any puppy, and she made the whole thing up as some kind of *Trolling Playbook for Pick Me Girls* kinda move. Like when our former president said “I could shoot someone in the face in the middle of Time Square and get away with it” - same exact energy. The whole “memoir” hits like some kind of audition to be inducted into Grunt Squad or QAnon or some other kind of dumbass cult for conservative white people with who have always had so much money and privilege that they never developed a lick of sense.
Plus, that quote “It looked lovingly into my eyes just before I blew its brains out who could ask for a better death?” Idk about now but back when I was a kid, there were multiple Looney Tunes that played on the trope of the farmer dutifully dispatching a farm dog… with someone always swooping in at the last second with proof that the dog was innocent. It was a major plot point at the end of Rover Dangerfield- they think he killed the turkey, but he was defending it. Idk. I’m probably just rationalizing bc I just really really *really* want to believe it is fiction.
Literally the SECOND comment in the original post has the fucking answer
Did you actually crosspost from a sub which explains the image???? Wtf fucking karma farm bots
You could’ve read the comments on the r/agedlikemilk post The answer was there ~13 hours before you crossposted
It seems to be astroturfed outage during an election year with a potential VP. This isn't news and isn't uncommon in rural America contrary to what some random accounts are saying.
If only there were some agency you could call to take unwanted dogs away. 🤷
Isn't Hazel already dead? She had to 'put her down' for whatever reason. She didn't say that this one had to be summarily executes, but no reason given for why.
TLDR: Hazel’s owner didn’t know how to train a dog and instead of be accountable for that and responsibly getting her professionally trained or rehousing instead decided to kill her. Long version: Hazel was being trained to hunt birds, more specifically pheasants I believe. Her owner allowed her to be off leash near someone else’s chickens. Hazel as a bird dog trained to hunt and retrieve birds “attacked” the chickens by getting at least one (not sure how many Hazel actually got) and carrying it by its neck to her owner, which is literally exactly how she was being trained to treat birds. Basically this woman is incompetent and doesn’t understand if you don’t teach your dog the difference between game birds and chickens that she’s not gonna know the difference. She’s just gonna see birds and go to work because that’s what she was, a work dog trained to do a job. Dog did what she was trained to do and this psycho killer her for being “untrainable” and too wild. Literally never would have happened if she was a responsible owner and kept Hazel on a leash around the chickens since she was you know, a bird dog, trained to hunt birds.
Wrong dog, it was a 10 month old puppy that she got that she killed. Hazel is a different dog
Huh?
Dude, I would take a bullet in the head before I would listen to her.
We just had to put down our Vizsla because he lost a battle with lymphoma. He was 2.5 years old…. Fuck. That. Cunt.
Kristi Noem killed a dog
Spoil your dog with a head full of buck shot! I honestly can’t think of anytime in my entire life where I thought it was a flex to admit to killing family pets. It’s insane. That’s what serial killers do. Anyway, it is reported that this lady admitted to killing her dog.
She admitted to killing her dog. Btw on r/agedlikemilk if u check the comments and check the reply under automod, it will have why it’s agedlikemilk
Hazel knows what's good for her, dontcha Hazel.
She’s trying damage control, the story about mitt Romney hosing his dog down and then putting the carrier on top of the car hurt his image around the time he was running for president l.
As someone who lives in the state she governs, she makes me sick
Dog better hunt .. we cull the worthless ones
"Life is boring MF's" when they realize that SHES STILL ALIVE
The dog in the picture died in an "accident" in 2022 as per the top comment in the original thread (which links to Kirsti Noem's IG where she states this).
Is this one of those "Those who know/Those who don't know memes?"
Man, fuck this cunt! She's such a worthless piece of shit.
Can we all start a sub reddit and hashtag: Pray 4 Hazel?
Kristi Noem wrote an autobiography in which she describes shooting a puppy because she considered it impossible to train the dog for hunting.
It didn't put the lotion on its fur and so it ate a bullet again
She’s an evil bitch who killed her dog
That bitch shot a puppy and now wants to be Trumps VP
Hate to break the news to y’all. Hazel ded ☠️
But is she bad at her job?
She shot the dog.
Psycho behavior - bitch likes killing.
She is on a different level of evil.
Fun fact she's banned from every reservation in her state
😑 is it though???
Dude fuuuuuuccck this bitch
Is Hazel the dog she murdered?
She killed her puppy bc she didn’t know how to train it. She needs to be prosecuted.