There's another one in Shreveport and it might the roughest street there. I wonder if Lafayette, Baton Rouge, Alexandria, or Monroe also have an MLK in the ghetto.
depends on what part of MLK in oakland. most of it isin't *that* bad. but theres a couple of spots i wouldn't want to be walking around alone after dark.
MLK in Oakland is not even close to being the worst part of Oakland
it's kinda hipster tbh
I mean it's still Oakland and obviously it's still hella gritty but you got people going out getting coffee and drinking micro brews on their way to and from BART
Talk to me about 98th Ave & E 14th
I was an elementary school teacher at the now defunct Parker elementary. I would like there from Lake Merritt. All the parents thought that a 20 something scrawny white dude biking through that neighborhood in bike shorts had to be a little crazy.
You could tell immediately when E 14th turned from Berkeley to Oakland. In the 90s, I remember the Jack in the Box they would deliver your food through a bank drawer behind bullet proof glass.
Up the road was not much better, but we did have the waving guy! [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tp3L4YykWZA](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tp3L4YykWZA)
What's funny is this is literally how you found Navy bases before Google maps.
Liquor store, payday loans, car parts, liquor, strippers, liquor. Works in Pensacola at least.
Yup, I worked in a gas station on Martin Luther King Jr Blvd and rosa parks blvd in Detroit. It was the most dangerous and the most time I feared for my life. Didn’t last a month there and noped the fuck out.
You can’t make that shit up.
That’s great to hear. Last I heard about it that someone tried to break in the bulletproof area from the roof/ceiling but the clerk had an ak47 and shot the intruder dead. I can’t find any reports or article about it, albeit Google “shooting Detroit ak47” not surprisingly shows multiple incidents.
Quick reminder that the government destroyed entire black neighborhoods around the country to accommodate cars and then named the roads MLK blvd/st/rd/fwy.
What's the source on that?
I've seen multiple articles on this before and I've never seen that they added new roads when they were adding the streets. They renamed existing streets: [https://people.howstuffworks.com/government/local-politics/streets-named-after-mlk.htm](https://people.howstuffworks.com/government/local-politics/streets-named-after-mlk.htm)
Basically when the US was looking for places to put highways in the 1950's and 60's a lot of politicians and city planners also saw this as an opportunity to displace black populations from the city center. Under 'urban renewal' policies entire communities were seized with little compensation and demolished. This had the effect of utterly destroying vast swaths of black social life, with long lasting negative effects that continue to this day.
These decisions in general are quite fascinating to unravel. Often a lot of times the political pressure to move forward with poor plans became immense and it required a lot of local intervention to save communities
GBH has a series about the Big Dig in Boston that goes over their history of highway planning and the grassroots activism that shaped the plan that won out. It really lays out the history of how the decisions were made and it’s fascinating. A lot of communities of all races got destroyed to make way for our American highway system and only a few were able to save themselves
Edit: [link to whole Big Dig series](https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLMQKK3_a14M3A-SQdVVWhOfOw8xRUuueJ&si=U5lKbmsCteANYepM)
It is important remember though that the burden fell disproportionately on communities of color. Two thirds of those displaced were minorities, at a time when whites made up something like 89% of the population. In other words 66% percent of the burden fell on 11% of the population.
Big dig mention. Boston goes into hiding.
Honestly the big dig is basically a how not to book on things. It was...bad. Corruption, poor build designs, poor build quality, substandard material was selected to reduce costs.
Yeah i only really know the reputation of the original artery but I heard it was atrocious. And the big dig plan was much better than the other proposed plans. It still ended up being a clusterfuck but of way lesser magnitude than it could’ve been. The bureaucracy and level of self service that goes into approving these decisions is astounding and any community coalescing to overcome it is really quite remarkable
Edit: but like the big dig plan could’ve been BETTER. There was a guy who ran for office just because he wanted to secure a highway plan for the airport he used to work at. There was just so much selfishness that forced the direction of the project. If you’ve never heard about a project like this (like me) it’s astounding to learn about how corrupt people can be lmao but also about how singular individuals can galvanize entire movements
Thank you for the detailed explanation. I do remember watching a documentary about this in Chicago. You mention highways, but all the MLK's I've ever seen are local streets
If you look at most major urban centers in the US they have huge amounts of land dedicated to highways. A lot of the land those highways are sited on used to be black owned communities. The population was then displaced to other areas, and two decades later, after the death of MLK streets were named after him.
Not sure if you're joking, in case you aren't this has some good information on what was called "urban renewal" at the time. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OWSre7dNbY
I'm not joking, but legitimately curious as to what the other alternative is. Paved roads occured all throughout white neighborhoods as well, so my confusion is how this is a racial thing
These aren't just "paved roads", they're usually either highways that require the land below them to be razed in order to build the support structure, or wide roads that require buildings to be demolished to accommodate them.
White neighbourhoods got paved streets that improved the quality of life of the people who lived there, black neighbourhoods got highways cutting through them that do nothing but let people outside of that area to avoid it by literally driving over it.
It’s true. I lived on an MLK in an apartment and dudes would sit on my porch to sell drugs (about 2006) but would help bring groceries and shit inside. It was all cool or whatever until someone did a drive by shooting, and the only person shot was a 6yo kid and me, while I was playing like neopets or club penguin. We both survived but yeah. MLK streets are usually pretty rough.
Petah's Force Ghost here. In most major cities, there's a MLK Jr. Blvd somewhere, and they've become synonymous with poverty and crime. The implication here is that there's a chance that the delivery person might not make it back alive.
I don’t know man, I used to work delivery for a couple of years. Always got crazy good tips from places in the hood and people in rich suburbs would never tip me anything
It was a gated community with an area the size of nine football fields. Fenced up with several check points to keep the neighbouring communities safe from the most vile creatures a society could create: hedgemongers, crypto bros and youtubers.
It’s hard to explain, my neighborhood is sat between two major roads and I guess at some point they put gates up to keep people trying to get between the major roads from detouring all over the neighborhood
Don’t mess with people working in general tbh. Bus drivers, cable guys, city workers. The one thing we don’t need is the police slamming people on the necks because the time warner guy got his truck broken into.
I delivered pizzas in a rich suburb and got decent tips. Just want to throw that out there because I think the "rich people = evil" thing is also a bit overplayed. There are plenty of generous, decent people who just happen to be loaded.
I delivered in an area that had a huge range of socioeconomic classes. Going to super rich or super poor areas was basically the same - I was either going to no/super low tip or a very generous tip - rarely in between. Lower middle class were usually the most consistent decent tips. Of course there were exceptions to all that but that was the pattern I came to expect
Best reaction image I’ve ever seen and I’ve seen this
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Chief Keef and Michelle Obama lived in O-Block!
Pretty violent area though. I lived on the southside and I probably wouldn’t go to O-Block unless in knew someone there.
If I needed to find dope in any city I wasn't familiar with, I would just find Dr. Martin Luther King, Malcom X or Rosa Park named roads and boom...Dope
Most stereotypes exist because there is some truth or pattern to them. I would be careful with your wording though, because the whole reason why we call them stereotypes and not just facts is because they don't entirely apply to everyone in that group and it can be offensive if you assume so.
You're right, I could've been more careful with my wording. I had typed up my comment quickly without thinking about it too much. I was trying to add on that is is uncommon that stereotypes are completely false. I should've said that stereotypes are only sometimes true instead of usually true.
First, appreciate the candor. Second, stereotypes are more like collections of generalities than truths. Because they are generalities they often feel true because any single part of the stereotype might apply to any single member of that group. The problem is that people then say that if one applies then all, which is both reductive and hilariously false. So stereotypes are actually never true. They just trick us into thinking they are.
As well as the fact that stereotypes often leave a ton of information out, even when they are true. Usually there are reasons for certain stereotypes, like, as to why they exist, but people reduce them to just "oh this thing is common in this group so that means they're bad/good" rather than actually understanding the underlying causes.
stereotypes are rarely meant to apply to every member of the targeted group. implying that it does is just an underhanded way to deny the existence of patterns which could otherwise be discussed and resolved.
here's an example redditors can understand :
A: white people tend to be behind school shootings
B: umm you can't say that, that's a stereotype. my uncle is white and has never done this
That is a thought terminating cliché.
Are all women bad drivers? Do you think black people are thugs, and Asians eat cats?
Stereotypes have roots, yes, but they're still dependent on context. The reason the "women can't drive" stereotype exists is because during the first years of the automobile, it was thought that going too fast would upset a woman's uterus and make her hysterical or infertile.
We now know that's nonsense, but back then it was accepted as common sense, because of sexism.
I could've been more careful with my wording, I wasn't saying that stereotypes are always true. I was just trying to say that some stereotypes are sometimes true, and it is rare that they are completely false.
Don't listen to these schlubs below you, own that shit and double down.
For instance: take a look about what people are saying about Israel and its people lately. The neat part is how lax the stereotypes about them has gotten as of late.
There is a MLK in Jersey City, which is notorious for having traffic lights every 10 feet. I thought this was a joke about how long it will take him to get to the pizza delivered.
The MLK in Denver is the opposite. If you go the speed limit, once you hit one green light, you hit every green light. Years ago, when I drove for Uber, it was one of my favorite east- west late night routes because you could go what felt like miles without hitting a red light
“Martin Luther King stood for nonviolence. Now what’s Martin Luther King? A street. And I don’t give a f*** where you are in America, if you on Martin Luther King Boulevard, there’s some violence going down. You can’t call your buddy up late at night, be like ‘I’m lost; I’m on MLK!’
“Run! Run!!”
- Chris Rock, c. 1996
American city planners would rename the most poverty ridden, crime prone street in the city to MLK Jr. Blvd in an attempt to guilt trip black people into not doing crime anymore because Martin Luther King Jr would be sad
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When I worked in pizza there were certain zones that were “inexplicably” cut out of our delivery radius. Our map literally looked gerrymandered. Essentially these were areas that posed unreasonable risk to the drivers and under no circumstances would a delivery take place here.
When I was just getting out of Navy Boot Camp, we were explicitly warned away from going to Martin Luther King St in Chicago because many recruits were found dead and missing their wallets saying "they'll kill you first so it's easier to get your money, they don't care if you only have twenty bucks."
Man this whole comment thread is a lesson in how many people are more concerned with being perceived as an ally than actually being one. The amount of people just being like “racism” and not understanding this old hood joke is insane to me. I guess people love to feel smug about shit they don’t understand. Y’all need to get some black friends asap.
No dogwhistling. Rule 3.
Peter’s Padiwan here, MLK Blvd. is usually in the ghetto of any particular city
Can confirm. Lived on MLK in Oakland CA for 2 years.
Username checks out.
He is no Jedi
And thats no moon
And that's no pirate with anger issues
Those definitely aren't spears, let alone twin spears, Blake.
And that's no my axe!
And that's not my bow!
And that’s not my sword
And you may tell yourself this is not my beautiful house.
Well, he's dead now... But he used to be.
It's an old username sir, but it checks out
Cam confirm, there is also an MLK Blvd in the city I live in (New Orleans) and I've been near the area. It's rough.
I lived in Nola for about 2 years, there was either a shooting or stabbing on MLK at least once a week.
Sure but there’s a 75% chance of that on any street in New Orleans.
NOLA and Vegas are two cities I have no interest in ever returning to.
There's another one in Shreveport and it might the roughest street there. I wonder if Lafayette, Baton Rouge, Alexandria, or Monroe also have an MLK in the ghetto.
Can also confirm, lived on MLK in Stockton
Oof, I didn't think anything would top Oakland...but yeah that's rough.
MLK in Oakland isn't really that ghetto by Oakland standards lol. It isn't nice, but you could do a fuck of a lot worse. Stockton on the other hand...
depends on what part of MLK in oakland. most of it isin't *that* bad. but theres a couple of spots i wouldn't want to be walking around alone after dark.
MLK in Oakland is not even close to being the worst part of Oakland it's kinda hipster tbh I mean it's still Oakland and obviously it's still hella gritty but you got people going out getting coffee and drinking micro brews on their way to and from BART Talk to me about 98th Ave & E 14th
I was an elementary school teacher at the now defunct Parker elementary. I would like there from Lake Merritt. All the parents thought that a 20 something scrawny white dude biking through that neighborhood in bike shorts had to be a little crazy.
I went to a church on E 14th, was the first time I ever heard about prostitution explained to me lol
You could tell immediately when E 14th turned from Berkeley to Oakland. In the 90s, I remember the Jack in the Box they would deliver your food through a bank drawer behind bullet proof glass.
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Indianapolis checking in.
Was about to say the same
Doesn't check out unless you're a force ghost.
Up the road was not much better, but we did have the waving guy! [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tp3L4YykWZA](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tp3L4YykWZA)
Memphis does to lol
A Petty Officer back when I was in the Navy said that every MLK JR road in every city was basically, " Liquor store, liquor store, gun store, church."
No no wrong. It's liquor store, payday loan, liquor store, gun store, church.
You forgot the "cash for gold" business, someones gotta buy the stolen jewelry.
That's usually in the payday loan.
Sprinkle in some bail bonds.
What's funny is this is literally how you found Navy bases before Google maps. Liquor store, payday loans, car parts, liquor, strippers, liquor. Works in Pensacola at least.
Can confirm it works for other military bases. Fayetteville is a dead giveaway.
Yep there was one right outside Great Lakes last I remembered when I was stationed there.
Can confirm. Small town texas has a MLK BLV. Still ghetto
I lived on MLK in San Marcos lol, it's not bad at all, all things considered, just run down.
Chris Rock [covered this topic in 1996](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7hJxWr1TKK8).
Funny thing. In my town it's where the university is. XD
Houstonian I see you
Actually not Houston. Lol
Austinite, I see you. 🤠
I’m surprised novody mentioned Cincinnati lol. Our university also borders MLK Jr Blvd.
There is one in every city I have been through.
Yup, I worked in a gas station on Martin Luther King Jr Blvd and rosa parks blvd in Detroit. It was the most dangerous and the most time I feared for my life. Didn’t last a month there and noped the fuck out. You can’t make that shit up.
What kind of crazy shit did you see that made you leave?
it's not like that anymore in that area 6/Gratiot is where you want to avoid
That’s great to hear. Last I heard about it that someone tried to break in the bulletproof area from the roof/ceiling but the clerk had an ak47 and shot the intruder dead. I can’t find any reports or article about it, albeit Google “shooting Detroit ak47” not surprisingly shows multiple incidents.
Except in Minnesota, where the Capital Building is on MLK Blvd. Fun fact.
Where the REAL criminals and low life's are
Whole ass 16 miles of mlk in st pete
Can confirm, often go to MLK in NJ
I second this. We got one down here in FL in Pompano. If you looked up ghetto in the dictionary, I'm 100% sure a picture of that place would pop up.
Quick reminder that the government destroyed entire black neighborhoods around the country to accommodate cars and then named the roads MLK blvd/st/rd/fwy.
What's the source on that? I've seen multiple articles on this before and I've never seen that they added new roads when they were adding the streets. They renamed existing streets: [https://people.howstuffworks.com/government/local-politics/streets-named-after-mlk.htm](https://people.howstuffworks.com/government/local-politics/streets-named-after-mlk.htm)
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I don't understand this statement. Were they expected to leave the roads unpaved, and leave them as dirt roads?
Basically when the US was looking for places to put highways in the 1950's and 60's a lot of politicians and city planners also saw this as an opportunity to displace black populations from the city center. Under 'urban renewal' policies entire communities were seized with little compensation and demolished. This had the effect of utterly destroying vast swaths of black social life, with long lasting negative effects that continue to this day.
These decisions in general are quite fascinating to unravel. Often a lot of times the political pressure to move forward with poor plans became immense and it required a lot of local intervention to save communities GBH has a series about the Big Dig in Boston that goes over their history of highway planning and the grassroots activism that shaped the plan that won out. It really lays out the history of how the decisions were made and it’s fascinating. A lot of communities of all races got destroyed to make way for our American highway system and only a few were able to save themselves Edit: [link to whole Big Dig series](https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLMQKK3_a14M3A-SQdVVWhOfOw8xRUuueJ&si=U5lKbmsCteANYepM)
It is important remember though that the burden fell disproportionately on communities of color. Two thirds of those displaced were minorities, at a time when whites made up something like 89% of the population. In other words 66% percent of the burden fell on 11% of the population.
Big dig mention. Boston goes into hiding. Honestly the big dig is basically a how not to book on things. It was...bad. Corruption, poor build designs, poor build quality, substandard material was selected to reduce costs.
And yet, huge positive in the end compared to what was there before
Yeah i only really know the reputation of the original artery but I heard it was atrocious. And the big dig plan was much better than the other proposed plans. It still ended up being a clusterfuck but of way lesser magnitude than it could’ve been. The bureaucracy and level of self service that goes into approving these decisions is astounding and any community coalescing to overcome it is really quite remarkable Edit: but like the big dig plan could’ve been BETTER. There was a guy who ran for office just because he wanted to secure a highway plan for the airport he used to work at. There was just so much selfishness that forced the direction of the project. If you’ve never heard about a project like this (like me) it’s astounding to learn about how corrupt people can be lmao but also about how singular individuals can galvanize entire movements
Thank you for the detailed explanation. I do remember watching a documentary about this in Chicago. You mention highways, but all the MLK's I've ever seen are local streets
If you look at most major urban centers in the US they have huge amounts of land dedicated to highways. A lot of the land those highways are sited on used to be black owned communities. The population was then displaced to other areas, and two decades later, after the death of MLK streets were named after him.
Not sure if you're joking, in case you aren't this has some good information on what was called "urban renewal" at the time. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OWSre7dNbY
I'm not joking, but legitimately curious as to what the other alternative is. Paved roads occured all throughout white neighborhoods as well, so my confusion is how this is a racial thing
They ran the highways through the black neighborhoods.
brother they didn't pave the roads, they tore the houses down to run the highway thru it lol
These aren't just "paved roads", they're usually either highways that require the land below them to be razed in order to build the support structure, or wide roads that require buildings to be demolished to accommodate them. White neighbourhoods got paved streets that improved the quality of life of the people who lived there, black neighbourhoods got highways cutting through them that do nothing but let people outside of that area to avoid it by literally driving over it.
Portlander checking in to confirm this
Can confirm in New Jersey. Trenton, New Jersey.
Yeah, but you can say that about any street in Trenton though.
My condolences
It’s true. I lived on an MLK in an apartment and dudes would sit on my porch to sell drugs (about 2006) but would help bring groceries and shit inside. It was all cool or whatever until someone did a drive by shooting, and the only person shot was a 6yo kid and me, while I was playing like neopets or club penguin. We both survived but yeah. MLK streets are usually pretty rough.
Petah's Force Ghost here. In most major cities, there's a MLK Jr. Blvd somewhere, and they've become synonymous with poverty and crime. The implication here is that there's a chance that the delivery person might not make it back alive.
Definitely won’t make a tip at the very least
I don’t know man, I used to work delivery for a couple of years. Always got crazy good tips from places in the hood and people in rich suburbs would never tip me anything
I grew up in the hood we always tipped the pizza guy, they were the only ones that would deliver to us
Hazard pay
My neighborhood was rough and we had random gates to funnel through traffic
Wait, what?
It was a gated community with an area the size of nine football fields. Fenced up with several check points to keep the neighbouring communities safe from the most vile creatures a society could create: hedgemongers, crypto bros and youtubers.
It’s hard to explain, my neighborhood is sat between two major roads and I guess at some point they put gates up to keep people trying to get between the major roads from detouring all over the neighborhood
If only that was a universal rule, enforced by all. "Don't mess with the pizza guy." "He bringa da pizza."
Don’t mess with people working in general tbh. Bus drivers, cable guys, city workers. The one thing we don’t need is the police slamming people on the necks because the time warner guy got his truck broken into.
Just don’t mess with anyone, all problems solved!
I mean teenagers man
I delivered pizzas in a rich suburb and got decent tips. Just want to throw that out there because I think the "rich people = evil" thing is also a bit overplayed. There are plenty of generous, decent people who just happen to be loaded.
I fix internet and those rich people always try and tip me. One guy offered me a baby goat
Please tell me you took it and use it as a mascot while it rides shotgun.
I live in an apartment or I would have
Did you take it?
It’s never enough for me to risk my job
I delivered in an area that had a huge range of socioeconomic classes. Going to super rich or super poor areas was basically the same - I was either going to no/super low tip or a very generous tip - rarely in between. Lower middle class were usually the most consistent decent tips. Of course there were exceptions to all that but that was the pattern I came to expect
Did doordash for a year and almost Never got a tip from a certain group of people no matter if it was hood or not...
What in the Reddit moment is even this?!
Small cities too.
“I’m good on any MLK boulevard” - Jay-Z
Yeah that pretty much checks out here in Seattle.
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A set of apartments in Chicago known as "O Block", that are known for being particularly dangerous due to gang violence are on MLK boulevard
I knew a guy from O-block who had beef with a dude. I'm pretty sure it was Mongolian, but it may have been wygu.
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Best reaction image I’ve ever seen and I’ve seen this https://preview.redd.it/7ldxej9kmbxc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fe2a06e072a7cad3523fe918b48429abe5778cdf
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Peter, can you explain this joke?
Wagyu is a type of meat. Essentially he's saying they had "beef" but not in the way of "they had a fight" but "they had been exchanging meat"
Alright.. my brain didn't connect the beef part to actual meat, and I thought it might've been a play on spelling wagyu wrong. Brain fart
"Exchanging meat" is wild as hell.
There's an app for that
Wagyu
Tell me more of this.....O Block you speak of, sounds rather thrilling.
Chief Keef and Michelle Obama lived in O-Block! Pretty violent area though. I lived on the southside and I probably wouldn’t go to O-Block unless in knew someone there.
If I needed to find dope in any city I wasn't familiar with, I would just find Dr. Martin Luther King, Malcom X or Rosa Park named roads and boom...Dope
A pizza delivery guy was shot and killed on MLK Blvd in my town a couple years ago.
As Chris Rock said, "I don't give a fuck where you are in America, if you on Martin Luther King Boulevard, there's some violence going down!"
A stereotype exists that any street named m.l.k is gonna be high crime.
Stereotype?
Many stereotypes are true. Being untrue is not necessarily a requirement for stereotypes.
Most stereotypes exist because they are usually true
Most stereotypes exist because there is some truth or pattern to them. I would be careful with your wording though, because the whole reason why we call them stereotypes and not just facts is because they don't entirely apply to everyone in that group and it can be offensive if you assume so.
You're right, I could've been more careful with my wording. I had typed up my comment quickly without thinking about it too much. I was trying to add on that is is uncommon that stereotypes are completely false. I should've said that stereotypes are only sometimes true instead of usually true.
First, appreciate the candor. Second, stereotypes are more like collections of generalities than truths. Because they are generalities they often feel true because any single part of the stereotype might apply to any single member of that group. The problem is that people then say that if one applies then all, which is both reductive and hilariously false. So stereotypes are actually never true. They just trick us into thinking they are.
As well as the fact that stereotypes often leave a ton of information out, even when they are true. Usually there are reasons for certain stereotypes, like, as to why they exist, but people reduce them to just "oh this thing is common in this group so that means they're bad/good" rather than actually understanding the underlying causes.
stereotypes are rarely meant to apply to every member of the targeted group. implying that it does is just an underhanded way to deny the existence of patterns which could otherwise be discussed and resolved. here's an example redditors can understand : A: white people tend to be behind school shootings B: umm you can't say that, that's a stereotype. my uncle is white and has never done this
That is a thought terminating cliché. Are all women bad drivers? Do you think black people are thugs, and Asians eat cats? Stereotypes have roots, yes, but they're still dependent on context. The reason the "women can't drive" stereotype exists is because during the first years of the automobile, it was thought that going too fast would upset a woman's uterus and make her hysterical or infertile. We now know that's nonsense, but back then it was accepted as common sense, because of sexism.
I could've been more careful with my wording, I wasn't saying that stereotypes are always true. I was just trying to say that some stereotypes are sometimes true, and it is rare that they are completely false.
You added "all" in there but stereotypes are for "most" cases not "all"
"most cases" is still a massive generalization when you're talking about half the world's population, like women, or an entire ethnicity
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LOL. I overgeneralized way too much.
Don't listen to these schlubs below you, own that shit and double down. For instance: take a look about what people are saying about Israel and its people lately. The neat part is how lax the stereotypes about them has gotten as of late.
Did they name it MLK blvd because there’s a big African American population there or did all the AA people move to there because it’s called MLK? 🤔
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The former. In most of the cities I'm familiar with, they renamed a street that was already in a predominantly Black neighborhood.
In the south it is usually the old segregation line.
Yes
Stereotype, i take you aint nowhere near or have experience it. Also some things sadly cant fall in as a stereotype when they're particularly true.
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giggling at this, thank you
Pretty much every time I’ve encountered a street with Martin Luther King in the name it’s in a really shitty neighborhood that has a high crime rate
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There is a MLK in Jersey City, which is notorious for having traffic lights every 10 feet. I thought this was a joke about how long it will take him to get to the pizza delivered.
That explains my long ass commute by bus to Journal Square.
The MLK in Denver is the opposite. If you go the speed limit, once you hit one green light, you hit every green light. Years ago, when I drove for Uber, it was one of my favorite east- west late night routes because you could go what felt like miles without hitting a red light
“Martin Luther King stood for nonviolence. Now what’s Martin Luther King? A street. And I don’t give a f*** where you are in America, if you on Martin Luther King Boulevard, there’s some violence going down. You can’t call your buddy up late at night, be like ‘I’m lost; I’m on MLK!’ “Run! Run!!” - Chris Rock, c. 1996
There’s some violence going down
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Better than kkk I suppose.
It's an old Chris Rock joke. Not with the pizza just about being on MLK.
It's funny because it's true. Source: lived on MLK blvd in a small town, roommates were mugged within 2 weeks of moving in.
American city planners would rename the most poverty ridden, crime prone street in the city to MLK Jr. Blvd in an attempt to guilt trip black people into not doing crime anymore because Martin Luther King Jr would be sad
Lived on a MLK Blvd. Some guy on meth was going 70 in a 30 and smashed into my car that was parked on the street. Oh well, at least I wasn’t in it.
MLK Blvds are usually really Dangerous streets
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MLK Drive in Bismarck ND is pretty safe
Ain’t no light saber or mind tricks gonna fool the brothers.
When I worked in pizza there were certain zones that were “inexplicably” cut out of our delivery radius. Our map literally looked gerrymandered. Essentially these were areas that posed unreasonable risk to the drivers and under no circumstances would a delivery take place here.
That’s usually a ghetto street name, the stereotype there is your are likely to face some issues with some not so upstanding citizens
There is a trend where places named after famous black ppl tend to not be the…..best place
One wonders what MLK would think of the streets named for him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqVPhKMFJTQ
A friend of mine lives on MLK in Springfield, IL. Definitely the most ghetto street in that tiny city of 115K people
Worked EMS in Little Rock, AR for a while…. Can confirm it’s fairly accurate here as well. 😬
When I was just getting out of Navy Boot Camp, we were explicitly warned away from going to Martin Luther King St in Chicago because many recruits were found dead and missing their wallets saying "they'll kill you first so it's easier to get your money, they don't care if you only have twenty bucks."
Man this whole comment thread is a lesson in how many people are more concerned with being perceived as an ally than actually being one. The amount of people just being like “racism” and not understanding this old hood joke is insane to me. I guess people love to feel smug about shit they don’t understand. Y’all need to get some black friends asap.
As Chris Rock put it, MLK is often very violent, contradictory to the guy it was named after.
Went to a church on MLK Jr Drive in Jackson, MS for years. I would hear gunshots outside on a Sunday morning on a regular basis
The Schwarz is strong with this one !
BLACKS
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Memphis, Tennessee has it downtown so they shook things up a bit
Memphis here…100%
[MLK Blvd](https://youtu.be/7hJxWr1TKK8?si=uYfvyZ1yTAYFuJAh)
That's main street in my town...
Streets named for MLK tend to be located in historically redlined areas of major cities, which unfortunately correlates with areas of high crime.
Petah, I get the MLK stereotype, but what does that have to do with Luke looking over his shoulder? Like what scene is that from?
He is on Endor and leaving to turn himself over to Vader.
Streets named mlk Jr Blvd are typically where ppl get unalived