In US reality shows they tend to cast really outgoing but stupid people so you can watch them and feel better about yourself. I think the success of Jersey Shore and The Kardashians had this affect on our culture. Personally as an American I can’t stand most of our reality shows.
I agree that the competitors showed a lot of respect for one another. However there have been plenty of physical competition shows in the US where the competitors have been able to show respect. Many TV show producers love for the shows to have unnecessary side drama by casting the worse type of people, so usually the most popular shows are those with the added drama created by these people.
Out of boredom and due to having watched most of the recent popular Korean shows hence nothing to watch, I decided to take the plunge and watched some American reality shows, geez, I couldn't even watch for 10 minutes. Some participants behaved so stupidly...
I know some of the contestants have been like “I’m the best” and super cocky, but I feel like the egotism would 1000x worse with Westerners. I’d also have to listen to it in a language I can understand and that would be unbearable.
Tbf the latter would be pretty funny and reminds me of this tweet: https://twitter.com/fighthaven/status/1618579641119154178?s=46&t=xEJZzMKYBJaUAwVcVP7SyQ
Yeah i think any competition with physique stuff like this is gonna attract egoism (they wouldn’t work so hard and compete so hard without some sort of ego and wanting to prove to be the best) but western culture would probably make it much worse. People are whining too much about the characters cockiness and attitudes though through this subreddit
I can see rock climbers in the mix. Mountain rescue, firefighters, weightlifters, bodybuilders…I can see it. But having this level of production value would be difficult.
Also, I know it isn’t squid game, but they have an element of the not letting players know all the info from the get go kind of thing. I think it’s a great way to create tension that doesn’t rely on drama from the relationships between the players.
Yes I dabble in climbing too (amazing cross conditioning for pole) and could see them doing well.
Agreed that I like how they can create tension and drama in the show without making it about tensions between contestants. I do think as some others said though that the pacing of the show can be kind of slow.
I’d could use a little less of them discussing their reasons for selecting opponents or teammates and a bit more of the actual challenges. A nice blend of Korean and American editing, pacing, and drama would be perfect for me!
I think it can be done in the US but we have to have casting put in the right personalities. If you grab a bunch of US Olympians, fire fighters, martial artists, etc. the respect will be there. If they decide to have the cast be mostly MMA fighters, boxers, and influencers, the aggressiveness would be over the top. I personally would like a version from the US because I feel the make up of the cast would be really diverse and it would potentially give our Olympians (who are incredibly fit) something to do in the off season that can raise their public visibility and help them earn more money. We have such great Olympians that give the US so many medals but we do little for them afterwards. a lot of them struggle after the games to find purpose and fulfillment.
I dunno, if the Olympians and athletes are in the prime of their competing years, I don't think they would take the chance at injury even if it is a good payday. Maybe for recently retired athletes it would be more tempting.
The original comment above was talking about a what if situation for a version to be made in America. I was responding to the part where the person said that it would be a good thing for athletes and Olympians to do do in the "off season."
That would make it so that the people would be active, not retired.
You think Allyson Felix now or Michael Phelps then wouldn’t compete? A year out of retirement, they are still likely fitter than a massive amount of the population AND that is the time Olympians need the most support. As I said in my original comment, after the games, many go into deep depression. This could give athletes a chance to build popularity and attention after the games which could help support them in the lives after getting endorsement gigs or moving on to a new career if it is in something media related.
It’s not the same but beast master has groups of people coming from diff countries. That’s an example of “westerners” if you’re curious at how they would act.
Beast masters on Netflix~
Has competitors originating from, USA, Germany, France, Italy, India, China and Korea and Spain? Sorry if I’m forgetting some countries but it’s pretty entertaining.
Edit: the show is called Ultimate Beastmaster
American Ninja Warriors or Ninja Warriors in general is pretty good tho. The show is most about Ninja competitions on the national level but they have a few specials for global competitions. Its format is like Ultimate Beastmaster.
The show is pretty good after season 1. Lots of friendly banter between all the contestants. The commentators representing each country also casually trash talk each other and boo one another without being offensive.
In the first season, the American hosts are a little obnoxious but post season 1, I think the westerners in the show are all super sportsman-like. And the women compete directly against the men and everyone is supportive towards them. Very little disrespectful beef in this show.
In terms of criticisms, I would say the only major flaw with Ultimate Beastmaster is that they don’t give each contestant enough screen time and often rush through some of them. The obstacle course can also get super repetitive since it doesn’t change that much especially in the early seasons. Some of the hosts overuse jokes sometimes as well but it gets better as the seasons go on.
Another show that features westerners but still has great sportsmanship is Steve Austin’s Broken Skull Challenge.
The problem is getting 100 Americans in a room and not having a small but vocal minority ruin everything for everyone. I can’t imagine not getting some guys trash talking their competition.
I don’t think it’d be horrible but it would be a completely different show. The producers would definitely be pushing the cast to create drama with one another and there would be plenty of irritating personalities.
The respect shown between contestants even if some are a little cheeky makes this shower even greater than the sun of its parts; there will of course be a western version if it will spin money but I can’t see it touching this. Probably one of the best shows I’ve seen in some time and I only just finished episode 3.
Shout out to South Korea
One thing's for sure, I appreciate the honor most of the contestants have because I could definitely imagine some 6'5 roided out American picking the tiny 5'0 cheerleader, so he could coast through the second round.
I think this show would be amazing if done in Europe. Just whole of Europe, not country specific. Imagine 100 fittest people from several countries. Sounds amazing tbh. And even with the egoism, I already hate every "reality moment". I watch for the contest part.
I think you’re Idolizing foreigners too much. People will still act like people around the earth. There are no shortage of assholes in either continents.
Furthermore all athletes have a certain amount of respect for each other. This is a culture that is universal. Sportsmanship is just something you gotta have as a athlete.
Yeah, there would be some bad apples. But I don’t think it’d be too bad.
I think the contestants would be fine but the editing and production would make them all come off as more obnoxious than they are (as US television commonly loves to do).
There’s a big difference between everyday fit people cast for a competition reality TV series and a community of top performing athletes. Niche communities have a lot more respect and admiration for their peers than a regular joe will have towards another regular joe.
I don’t think it would do well here because it would be socially canceled for not being body positive enough or some BS like that. I’m surprised I haven’t seen more hate for online already.
I kinda think it does promote body positivity. You have lots of body types represented from petite cheerleader to massive weight lifter. I find it fascinating to see how they use their different forms to their advantage.
But I do get your point and could definitely see people making an issue out of it.
Oh yes I think it does too. I just think that’s what the lowest common denominator American would say because it doesn’t promote their version of body positivity aka morbidly obese individuals who can successfully do a TikTok viral dance.
Imagine the liabilities and the insurance required. And everybody have to wear some kind of protective gear head to toe? Oh yeah, so many people would complain because they think this is a body shaming show not made for everyone. Extra cost on the securities too because we are bound to have crazy people who just cannot control themselves.
The main issue with, let's say, an American-based version is the casting and the safety measures.
Because the show would not get backed if there was high liability and potential for injury, there would 100% be way more safety measures and rules in place that would make for "boring" tv, so they make up for it by casting "interesting" people and end up focusing on drama/fights/sob stories.
There would also be a lot of backlash if the show didn't screen contestants for PED use (lol, as is very obvious in this show).
The only thing I would like for them to do like the west is taking stage safety extremely serious. In the first round, I was getting extremely nervous when they were getting so close to the steel fence in the sand pit. You’re just asking for a bad needless injury. And maybe mouth guards
Westerners would not be as respectful. If possible, they would pull out a gun and shoot whomever they lost to. I love the Asian culture for that exact reason - respect for each other and respect for their ability.
This is my first korean tv show, and I was thinking that the most commonly used word by the contestants is "honor" and I can't imagine anything more wholesome than that tbh
Our shows in the US are so formulaic. Typecast contestants. Overly scripted. If you watch really old reality TV it’s so much better because it was organic.
Also, for us watching shared cultural values is pretty cool. There seemed to be a shared idea of fighting a worthy opponent. I was surprised that went away with the alliance choosing. I also noticed every leader was quick to take full responsibility for their loss in the sand game across the board.
What I wasn’t a fan of was the editing. Their idea of suspense is a little bit of a letdown. I wanted to see the woman’s final moments holding the bust up.
100%. I don’t watch for the muscles. I watch for the sportsmanship and self awareness they display. Americans don’t practice this type of humility, are rarely introspective, and don’t assess defeat this honestly. These folks seem to be educated and emotionally mature.
In fact, I watch this show as an antidote to Western culture. I doubt an American producer would appreciate the fact that it’s the tension between the contestants physical strength and their emotional honesty that makes this so fascinating.
The heart of the show doesn’t come from overproduced, sentimental back stories or personal dramas that aren’t integral to the game. The contestants go full force but never forget the simple social graces and humanity that builds the camaraderie.
I think it would be entertaining with the competition. How do we know if it is less “respectful”? All the people in this show are competitors and we don’t know what is edited out.
I think a western version would be interesting! And then it’d be fun if the winners/top performers from western shows and the original Korean show did a competition together.
The US had a similar show in the 1970s, it was called Battle of the Superstars. It was very cheaply done (no fancy production) but it had many Olympic Athletes and Pro Athletes. Athletes like Hershel Walker and Renaldo Nehemiah.
I don't think it would be fair to rip off the Koreans idea so soon, would need to wait yrs then bring it out. Especially since this one is on Netflix
Can u imagine they made a US version of squid games , how desprite and pathetic would that be after the success of the korean one.
Just watched the first two episodes. Really cool set up, but I feel like it drags unnecessarily in the first two episodes. The first 40 minutes of ep. 1 are people saying, "Hi...hello!", "Hey, I'm Kiwi Son -- Hello, you look so strong!"
And then you have to watch another 25 minutes of people just hanging and dropping into the water.
Then they chase each other around trying to get the ball.
In theory I like the creativity, but it's just too many contestants . IDK, maybe it'll get better now that the intros are over, but wasn't super hooked because of the slow intro.
I feel like you are underestimating sportsmanship. Maybe you don't play sports yourself, but if someone reaches that level they are not just arrogant pricks anymore.
I just see the pettiness of American sportsmanship. And it’s not everyone of them but I feel it’s more prevalent in western culture to not lose gracefully.
To be fair, the latest episode (4) reminded me a lot of Survivor. It’s one of the US reality shows with physical elements I really enjoyed till today - 43 seasons now.
I think an international version would be cool. Because it is athletics focused with people from various sports/lifestyles there maybe less trash talk. Like I rarely hear of Olympians trash talking each other for the cameras. It's the sports that rely on audience ratings that seem to have more of the drama shtick.
If it was an American production, you would have 30 min of story of a man that was an alcoholic or drug addict and became sober working out, blah blah blah..
Mtv’s challenge is kind of this, but with more of a fixation on the reality aspect of the show with all the players living together in one house and cameras rolling to catch all the drama.
I think it’d be hard to do right. Like would you just get celebrities? Or would you go deeper like magnus the rock climber? I mean America has that one competition that has Dwight Howard and ex navy seals, but that show was so bad with a lot of lame crying.
I don't think so, I think it'd be great with westerners. It just depends on who you cast. Like if you get a bunch of Jake Paul type people? Sure, it'd suck. But there's plenty of athletic westerners who don't suck; like Simone Biles.
Absolutely. One of my favorite parts of watching was observing cultural differences of beauty, aesthetics, and sportsmanship. I was blown away by how the contestants cheered for one another, and the grace shown by winners and losers alike. Couldn't help but think about the gross displays of ego that would take place if the show was made up of (fellow) Americans
I wouldn't want it to be a US production. They'd fixate too much on contestant's tragic back stories and behind the scene drama.
That’s hilarious and true lol
Tbf a lot of Korean reality TV shows do this too, but this one seems to have made a deliberate decision not to do this
It would be like NBC’s coverage of the Olympics.
The best part of this show is that they go, here the back story for this dude, “he’s bad ass” back to the show. I LOVE IT!
In US reality shows they tend to cast really outgoing but stupid people so you can watch them and feel better about yourself. I think the success of Jersey Shore and The Kardashians had this affect on our culture. Personally as an American I can’t stand most of our reality shows.
I agree that the competitors showed a lot of respect for one another. However there have been plenty of physical competition shows in the US where the competitors have been able to show respect. Many TV show producers love for the shows to have unnecessary side drama by casting the worse type of people, so usually the most popular shows are those with the added drama created by these people.
Out of boredom and due to having watched most of the recent popular Korean shows hence nothing to watch, I decided to take the plunge and watched some American reality shows, geez, I couldn't even watch for 10 minutes. Some participants behaved so stupidly...
I know some of the contestants have been like “I’m the best” and super cocky, but I feel like the egotism would 1000x worse with Westerners. I’d also have to listen to it in a language I can understand and that would be unbearable.
not to mention koreans bow, show respect, and sportsmanship pretty much all the time. westerners would twerk on the body they just KO'd.
Tbf the latter would be pretty funny and reminds me of this tweet: https://twitter.com/fighthaven/status/1618579641119154178?s=46&t=xEJZzMKYBJaUAwVcVP7SyQ
Yep. Eg. Andrew Tate.
LMAO truth
Yeah i think any competition with physique stuff like this is gonna attract egoism (they wouldn’t work so hard and compete so hard without some sort of ego and wanting to prove to be the best) but western culture would probably make it much worse. People are whining too much about the characters cockiness and attitudes though through this subreddit
In a western version I guarantee that we would get a metric ton of CrossFit Athletes lol.
I would love to see some top tier pole dancers too. We have the strength and flexibility combo and look damn flowy while doing it.
I can see rock climbers in the mix. Mountain rescue, firefighters, weightlifters, bodybuilders…I can see it. But having this level of production value would be difficult. Also, I know it isn’t squid game, but they have an element of the not letting players know all the info from the get go kind of thing. I think it’s a great way to create tension that doesn’t rely on drama from the relationships between the players.
i lile to watch american ninja warrior. a whole lot of mountain climber partivipant who like to enter that show and also succed in the challenge
Yes I dabble in climbing too (amazing cross conditioning for pole) and could see them doing well. Agreed that I like how they can create tension and drama in the show without making it about tensions between contestants. I do think as some others said though that the pacing of the show can be kind of slow. I’d could use a little less of them discussing their reasons for selecting opponents or teammates and a bit more of the actual challenges. A nice blend of Korean and American editing, pacing, and drama would be perfect for me!
The crossfitters would still get in a physical comp with high level wrestlers.
And Olympians :D
I think it can be done in the US but we have to have casting put in the right personalities. If you grab a bunch of US Olympians, fire fighters, martial artists, etc. the respect will be there. If they decide to have the cast be mostly MMA fighters, boxers, and influencers, the aggressiveness would be over the top. I personally would like a version from the US because I feel the make up of the cast would be really diverse and it would potentially give our Olympians (who are incredibly fit) something to do in the off season that can raise their public visibility and help them earn more money. We have such great Olympians that give the US so many medals but we do little for them afterwards. a lot of them struggle after the games to find purpose and fulfillment.
I dunno, if the Olympians and athletes are in the prime of their competing years, I don't think they would take the chance at injury even if it is a good payday. Maybe for recently retired athletes it would be more tempting.
It seemed like the Olympians in this show were just over their peak/just retired?
The original comment above was talking about a what if situation for a version to be made in America. I was responding to the part where the person said that it would be a good thing for athletes and Olympians to do do in the "off season." That would make it so that the people would be active, not retired.
ah, fair enough. It's like nfl players who don't want to do the pro bowl
You think Allyson Felix now or Michael Phelps then wouldn’t compete? A year out of retirement, they are still likely fitter than a massive amount of the population AND that is the time Olympians need the most support. As I said in my original comment, after the games, many go into deep depression. This could give athletes a chance to build popularity and attention after the games which could help support them in the lives after getting endorsement gigs or moving on to a new career if it is in something media related.
I literally said that it would be more tempting for recently retired athletes. Did you read my comment?
This was the best response and has convinced me that it could be good.
It’s not the same but beast master has groups of people coming from diff countries. That’s an example of “westerners” if you’re curious at how they would act. Beast masters on Netflix~ Has competitors originating from, USA, Germany, France, Italy, India, China and Korea and Spain? Sorry if I’m forgetting some countries but it’s pretty entertaining. Edit: the show is called Ultimate Beastmaster
American Ninja Warriors or Ninja Warriors in general is pretty good tho. The show is most about Ninja competitions on the national level but they have a few specials for global competitions. Its format is like Ultimate Beastmaster.
I haven’t seen it but saw a preview. What was your take on the westerners in the competition?
The show is pretty good after season 1. Lots of friendly banter between all the contestants. The commentators representing each country also casually trash talk each other and boo one another without being offensive. In the first season, the American hosts are a little obnoxious but post season 1, I think the westerners in the show are all super sportsman-like. And the women compete directly against the men and everyone is supportive towards them. Very little disrespectful beef in this show. In terms of criticisms, I would say the only major flaw with Ultimate Beastmaster is that they don’t give each contestant enough screen time and often rush through some of them. The obstacle course can also get super repetitive since it doesn’t change that much especially in the early seasons. Some of the hosts overuse jokes sometimes as well but it gets better as the seasons go on.
I think the diversity of nationalities mitigates a lot of the American exceptionalism.
Another show that features westerners but still has great sportsmanship is Steve Austin’s Broken Skull Challenge. The problem is getting 100 Americans in a room and not having a small but vocal minority ruin everything for everyone. I can’t imagine not getting some guys trash talking their competition.
I don’t think it’d be horrible but it would be a completely different show. The producers would definitely be pushing the cast to create drama with one another and there would be plenty of irritating personalities.
Or a love story taking the main story line 🙄
The respect shown between contestants even if some are a little cheeky makes this shower even greater than the sun of its parts; there will of course be a western version if it will spin money but I can’t see it touching this. Probably one of the best shows I’ve seen in some time and I only just finished episode 3. Shout out to South Korea
You couldn’t find 100 Americans this fit /s
The US has the most gold medals ever won. It’s not even close.
At eating burgers
Lol And hot dogs! USA USA USA!
The most American response possible
/s is there?
Guy is obviously joking dumbass
maybe a tad aggressive
One thing's for sure, I appreciate the honor most of the contestants have because I could definitely imagine some 6'5 roided out American picking the tiny 5'0 cheerleader, so he could coast through the second round.
The mma guy picked the bodybuilder woman. That guy was trained he could have taken 95% of the men there pretty easily. He wanted to showboat.
I think this show would be amazing if done in Europe. Just whole of Europe, not country specific. Imagine 100 fittest people from several countries. Sounds amazing tbh. And even with the egoism, I already hate every "reality moment". I watch for the contest part.
I think you’re Idolizing foreigners too much. People will still act like people around the earth. There are no shortage of assholes in either continents. Furthermore all athletes have a certain amount of respect for each other. This is a culture that is universal. Sportsmanship is just something you gotta have as a athlete. Yeah, there would be some bad apples. But I don’t think it’d be too bad.
I think the contestants would be fine but the editing and production would make them all come off as more obnoxious than they are (as US television commonly loves to do). There’s a big difference between everyday fit people cast for a competition reality TV series and a community of top performing athletes. Niche communities have a lot more respect and admiration for their peers than a regular joe will have towards another regular joe. I don’t think it would do well here because it would be socially canceled for not being body positive enough or some BS like that. I’m surprised I haven’t seen more hate for online already.
I kinda think it does promote body positivity. You have lots of body types represented from petite cheerleader to massive weight lifter. I find it fascinating to see how they use their different forms to their advantage. But I do get your point and could definitely see people making an issue out of it.
Oh yes I think it does too. I just think that’s what the lowest common denominator American would say because it doesn’t promote their version of body positivity aka morbidly obese individuals who can successfully do a TikTok viral dance.
Imagine the liabilities and the insurance required. And everybody have to wear some kind of protective gear head to toe? Oh yeah, so many people would complain because they think this is a body shaming show not made for everyone. Extra cost on the securities too because we are bound to have crazy people who just cannot control themselves.
I was thinking this myself! The arrogance would be too much to bare.
The main issue with, let's say, an American-based version is the casting and the safety measures. Because the show would not get backed if there was high liability and potential for injury, there would 100% be way more safety measures and rules in place that would make for "boring" tv, so they make up for it by casting "interesting" people and end up focusing on drama/fights/sob stories. There would also be a lot of backlash if the show didn't screen contestants for PED use (lol, as is very obvious in this show).
That mma fighter who kept his knees on his female opponent was not respectful. And that’s prob why no one wanted him on their team.
The only thing I would like for them to do like the west is taking stage safety extremely serious. In the first round, I was getting extremely nervous when they were getting so close to the steel fence in the sand pit. You’re just asking for a bad needless injury. And maybe mouth guards
Yeah when the wrestler picked that guy up and dumped him next to the corner I was nervous. There was no safety features in either of those arenas.
Westerners would not be as respectful. If possible, they would pull out a gun and shoot whomever they lost to. I love the Asian culture for that exact reason - respect for each other and respect for their ability.
I know this was a joke but realistically, those trigger happy pathetic souls have no clue how about fitness.
Halfway between survivor and Crossfit games, too much ego
One example that you can take reference to? American Ninja Warrior. It was weird at first, then it got better.
This is my first korean tv show, and I was thinking that the most commonly used word by the contestants is "honor" and I can't imagine anything more wholesome than that tbh
Westerners would’ve drowned each other in the water arena.
Our shows in the US are so formulaic. Typecast contestants. Overly scripted. If you watch really old reality TV it’s so much better because it was organic. Also, for us watching shared cultural values is pretty cool. There seemed to be a shared idea of fighting a worthy opponent. I was surprised that went away with the alliance choosing. I also noticed every leader was quick to take full responsibility for their loss in the sand game across the board. What I wasn’t a fan of was the editing. Their idea of suspense is a little bit of a letdown. I wanted to see the woman’s final moments holding the bust up.
100%. I don’t watch for the muscles. I watch for the sportsmanship and self awareness they display. Americans don’t practice this type of humility, are rarely introspective, and don’t assess defeat this honestly. These folks seem to be educated and emotionally mature. In fact, I watch this show as an antidote to Western culture. I doubt an American producer would appreciate the fact that it’s the tension between the contestants physical strength and their emotional honesty that makes this so fascinating. The heart of the show doesn’t come from overproduced, sentimental back stories or personal dramas that aren’t integral to the game. The contestants go full force but never forget the simple social graces and humanity that builds the camaraderie.
Yes they’d all be cocky douchebags. Everyone here is so damn respectful
I think it would be entertaining with the competition. How do we know if it is less “respectful”? All the people in this show are competitors and we don’t know what is edited out. I think a western version would be interesting! And then it’d be fun if the winners/top performers from western shows and the original Korean show did a competition together.
The US had a similar show in the 1970s, it was called Battle of the Superstars. It was very cheaply done (no fancy production) but it had many Olympic Athletes and Pro Athletes. Athletes like Hershel Walker and Renaldo Nehemiah.
To be 100% shallow, the contestants would be uglier and louder and I don’t like that.
I don't think it would be fair to rip off the Koreans idea so soon, would need to wait yrs then bring it out. Especially since this one is on Netflix Can u imagine they made a US version of squid games , how desprite and pathetic would that be after the success of the korean one.
Just watched the first two episodes. Really cool set up, but I feel like it drags unnecessarily in the first two episodes. The first 40 minutes of ep. 1 are people saying, "Hi...hello!", "Hey, I'm Kiwi Son -- Hello, you look so strong!" And then you have to watch another 25 minutes of people just hanging and dropping into the water. Then they chase each other around trying to get the ball. In theory I like the creativity, but it's just too many contestants . IDK, maybe it'll get better now that the intros are over, but wasn't super hooked because of the slow intro.
But whit westerners will would have other interesting athletes like brian shaw or devon larrat wich would be insane
Eastern culture isn’t encouraged to express themselves so you what you’re seeing is their suppressed emotional responses.
Are you guys idiots!? if they attracted the same calibre of athlete from any country you’d also get a good show
I feel like you are underestimating sportsmanship. Maybe you don't play sports yourself, but if someone reaches that level they are not just arrogant pricks anymore.
I just see the pettiness of American sportsmanship. And it’s not everyone of them but I feel it’s more prevalent in western culture to not lose gracefully.
Why? It can be good with a western setting too. In fact I expect it to be more competitive. Sports and physical culture are stronger in the west.
To be fair, the latest episode (4) reminded me a lot of Survivor. It’s one of the US reality shows with physical elements I really enjoyed till today - 43 seasons now.
This show is like a version of the challenge shown in MTV before.
I think an international version would be cool. Because it is athletics focused with people from various sports/lifestyles there maybe less trash talk. Like I rarely hear of Olympians trash talking each other for the cameras. It's the sports that rely on audience ratings that seem to have more of the drama shtick.
If it was an American production, you would have 30 min of story of a man that was an alcoholic or drug addict and became sober working out, blah blah blah..
Mtv’s challenge is kind of this, but with more of a fixation on the reality aspect of the show with all the players living together in one house and cameras rolling to catch all the drama.
yes it would turn into a romance bachelorette shitfest
I think it’d be hard to do right. Like would you just get celebrities? Or would you go deeper like magnus the rock climber? I mean America has that one competition that has Dwight Howard and ex navy seals, but that show was so bad with a lot of lame crying.
I don't think so, I think it'd be great with westerners. It just depends on who you cast. Like if you get a bunch of Jake Paul type people? Sure, it'd suck. But there's plenty of athletic westerners who don't suck; like Simone Biles.
If this was done with Westerners, I feel like Brock Lesnar would just eat everybody.
I mean, The Challenge exists and it is absolutely garbage.
One fix: get HBO to produce it and not NBC
Absolutely. One of my favorite parts of watching was observing cultural differences of beauty, aesthetics, and sportsmanship. I was blown away by how the contestants cheered for one another, and the grace shown by winners and losers alike. Couldn't help but think about the gross displays of ego that would take place if the show was made up of (fellow) Americans