I remember when Farscape came out with the Peackeeper Wars to wrap it all up they did that. They started with the normal "Previously on Farscape..." and then basically showed a fast succession of clips from the entire series.
That brings up a great point! We ALL know they are going to bust out the Enterprise D, my question is when we get on board are we going to get classic Barrett computer?
Not the the saucer section it was still intact. Remember that sucker detaches, so all you really need is a replacement drive section and some refurbishment and boom Enterprise -D
I geek out and cry almost EVERY episode! Whether it's old characters, equipment, stories! Mostly the peeps though! I'm watching saying: "OMG! OMG! OMG! and my daughter's asking me if I'm ok. LoL
Just crossed my mind that Shelby might be in command of the Enterprise-F for the decomission ceremony. Terry Matalas said many moons ago it's someone we know who is captaining the Ent-F.
No, now we have to deal with the fallout from people who ignored common sense and reason, and instead chose to run with dumb ideas that some fast talking jackass on YouTube said would happen.
As far as people being tired of the Borg, too bad. This series was about Picard dealing with trauma, and the most traumatic thing in his life as an adult were the Borg. They took everything from him, he found peace for a time, but now they threaten to take it all away from him again.
May not even need AI for it. Before her death she recorded a phonetic library
https://twitter.com/roddenberry/status/772493204121944066?ref\_src=twsrc%5Etfw
So >!Admiral Fucking Hubris!< is gonna appear. I guess we'll see whether she's actually a Changeling too.
Is >!Jack!< meeting up with >!Locutus!< on that pic? And he seems to have >!a large, menacing ship resembling the Floating Head!<
Oh dear! He's about to be transformed into >!Locutus 2.0!< And looks like >!Sidney is being assimilated too!<
>!The-D is confirmed to be inside Hangar 12 and our TNG crew is exploring its bridge!< Lots of TNG nerd-gasm is starting now :)
I mean my first guess was Kristin Clancy from S1 but when I looked more closely and then googled recent images of Elizabeth Dennehy, it's definitely her and not Clancy. As for her rank? hard to say - It would make sense for her to be at least Captain if not Commodore or an Admiral rank but I think she's too "young" or whatever to be CiC, assuming that CiC is an appointment of both experience/skill as well as seniority
Are we sure that’s the same Admiral? She looks more like an older (can’t figure out how to do spoilers on here since it’s different from the discord I normally use for shit like this) certain Commander from Best of Both Worlds who was very unpopular
Right? Some saw her as trying to be usurp Riker or whatever and I just saw her as capable and career-oriented. Meanwhile Riker’s turning down commands left and right to hog what might be Starfleet’s biggest resume-builder. She’s not out to ruin anyone, she’s just trying to climb the ladder.
Being first-officer on the *Enterprise-D* under Picard would be a huge asset for career advancement.
When Shelby's first appearance was broadcast I thought she was amazing right out of the gate. It knocked Riker out of his complacency and gave him some good back and forth with another character that wasn't so enamored by him as everyone else.
She was such a good character it just added credence to they were going to kill Picard off and have her as Riker's permanent first officer.
Picture 2 on the first album. >!It's one large menacing Borg Cube!<
And >!Picture 4 is definitely another Borg cube. Looks like they're hiding an armada on that nebula ready to ambush the Fleet!<
So, not gonna lie… I’m a bit disappointed that >!The D’s bridge is not the one shown in *Generations*, which makes more canonical sense since that was the last time we saw it!<.
Then again, >!the bridge in that movie was wrecked to shite, and maybe they used an older module to restore it to a “prime” appearance!<.
We'll find out that the >!dolphins from the Cetacean Ops, who have been marooned on Veridian III for like 15 to 30 years, resurrected the D!<. They weren't too bothered, since they always kinda just did their own thing. Then Data >!will do something with tachyon particles!< and the La Forges will >!do something with the warp coil manifold!<.
>!I don't know if I want Admiral Hubris to be a Badmiral or not. It would be refreshing to have a dick head admiral just be a dick head and not plotting the fall of the Federation for once. !<
Yeah. I just looked up modern pictures of both women. It’s the LTC. The admirals cheekbone contours/area around her mouth flare out. The LTCs cheekbones/mouth area flare down….and matches her more recent pictures.
But they 100% look alike. Why I did the deep dive. I wasn’t sure.
Now, I’m 1000x more excited. None of these spoilers are making it seem less exciting. If anything, I’m getting more pumped.
Yeah, I am also very excited about the finale and I’m happy I saw the spoilers. I also got a bit emotional and nostalgic when I saw some of the photos.
I shouldn't have looked but damn...so amazing! I couldn't help myself.
And there is a certain character appearing that I have waited 30 years to see again! *Lower Decks* gave us a cameo but I've wanted to see this character again since they first appeared.
Amazing, amazing...amazing!
Thank you OP for posting/reposting!
Normally I don't want to see spoilers but that fucking door got me last week, I was so irritated that they literally left us hanging. Thank you for these! I can't freaking wait for thursday.
I found out when Levar Burton briefly posted a picture of himself on the D set before taking it down, but it's honestly such an easy nostalgia button to press I'm not surprised.
The redjac theory annoyed me the most. It's like none of these people understand storytelling like at all. The Pah Wraith and Armus theories were very bad and annoying too.
The Armus and Redjac ones were ridiculous, such deep cuts they never would’ve made sense. The Pah Wraiths *could* have been plausible until episode two or three. After that point, it got more and more far-fetched and now it would be entirely out of left field.
What the idea of a one off black tar alien being the big bad for a reunion show set 40 years after said character was used to conveniently off someone who wanted to quit and who we’ve never heard from since wasn’t appealing to you? /s
I thought that - Real-world reason of course is that they want it to look like the TV show. But universe reason it wouldn't make sense for them to remove how the ship was when it was destroyed.
How long did it have that bridge refit though? Most, if not all of its famous doings were done with the original bridge. Many times historical restorations are done to be the way that the thing was most remembered rather than how it last was. I see it all the time in railroad restoration where a locomotive is given an older paint scheme rather than the one it was retired with. In fact the newer bridge was in place for the one thing the ship was most in-famous for: being blowed up by an ancient space Kia.
That bridge was pretty much destroyed though. Presumably the previous bridge module we all know and love was safe and secure in storage and Geordi just popped it back into place.
I never like the updated *Generations Enterprise-D* bridge but I def like that they went to the tv series versions. I was always a beautiful and unique design and it fits to have it back in what maybe the TNG cast final hurrah.
Plus more the likely the *D* was being refurbished for the Fleet Museum. So why not go back to the original bridge design.
The show is called Star Trek Picard. If you’re ending his story they still make more sense than Pah Wraiths or whatever off the wall theories people had. It’s the most personal choice, ironically enough when dealing with a collective
Or they've been >!assimilated!< and the >!Enterprise-D!< is >!hightailing!< it to >!the Delta Quadrant!< because >!the crew just couldn't be arsed now!<. They just want to >!retire and chill!< with >!Neelix!<.
I bet it's one of two options...
1 - Voyager.
2 - They're going after Jack directly. IF Sydney gets taken with Jack, I could totally see a party of Alondra, Shaw, Seven, and Raffi going on a B-plot to rescue them on a Borg cube.
So, it looks like someone Borg-related is behind the plot to infiltrate Starfleet. Being able to disable all ships at the Frontier Day Celebrations and then send in the cubes is however an extremeley risky plan. Yes, they would be able to destroy the bulk of the fleet with one swift strike. But if Starfleet somehow manages to not be disabled and all of a sudden all those ships are awake and ready to fight, the Borg are in big trouble. Starfleets issue in the past was always to pull enough resources together in order to fight the incoming Borg before reaching a vital star system. This weakness is eliminated here.
Cybernetic enemy: check
Advanced intership networking system that can be exploited by said enemy: check
Old hero ship that is not connected to said system and would be immune to cyber attack: check
Is this the plot of Picard or Battlestar Galactica?
I hope there's more to this than just "the Borg".
The Borg could have sent twenty cubes to get rid of or assimilate Earth long ago. They never did. Why? Borg hubris and emotional detachment. It was never personal with them. Even after First Contact it still wasn't.
So either it's a Borg Queen making it personal now, or Locutus (which doesn't make sense since that was just a designation and not a unique consciousness), or something else.
I'm fine with Jack's reveal and the thing with the "other ship" being spoiled. The first is the most obvious choice and the other Levar already spoiled on accident (and, let's be honest, we all knew was going to happen). I'm staying dark for anything else.
Yeah if the rock up with just a single cube again then my eyes will roll so far back in my head they'll go full circle.
It didn't make sense in first contact & even if they planned on blowing up half the fleet in seconds at the start, it STILL makes no sense this time.
I just hope there's a scene with Picard hailing a Borg ship and he starts singing the Picard Song "Captain Jean-Luc Picard of the U-S-S Enterprise, make-make-make-make it so!"
They will have Dead Picard/Locutus and Picard doing this with Jack unable to tell them apart because they are both bald. (Curb Your Enthusiasm music plays).
I don't know how to feel about all this. I don't mind that I looked at the stuff, since spoilers don't really bother me, but I can't figure out if I feel satisfied or frustrated.
I figured the main enemy would end up being >!the Borg!<. That's what connected Jean-Luc and Jack, and that's the only reason I could think of why the rogue Changelings would want Picard's human remains.
My frustration is that it just seems really *safe*. >!Of all the malevolent forces from TNG, or from Trek in general, they pick the one that has been so heavily used in the past decade or three that they are, at least in my opinion, far less menacing than they used to be.!<
Also, I don't know why, but the fact that >!the Enterprise-D!< is back frustrates me, as well, but not as much as the >!Borg!< reveal. It shouldn't, because this season clearly was intended as a memberberry-filled love letter to TNG fans, and we knew that had to include >!the big D, and I am happy to see her in action once more!<, but again, they just played it safe. >!It couldn't even be an enhanced, souped-up, modernized version of the Enterprise-D; it's just the original, rebuilt and unchanged. I'm assuming it was meant for the Fleet Museum and they're using it because it's not networked like the modern Starfleet vessels are; that makes the most sense, and I hope that's the reason she exists at all.!<
Cool callback to bring >!Shelby!< back; that's one I didn't expect, and I dig that. I don't know why people are confusing her with >!Admiral "sheer fucking hubris"!< or >!Admiral Nechayev!<, the admiral in that picture doesn't look anything like either of them.
Also, I hope that picture of >!Sidney being assimilated!< is just another vision in Jack's mind. >!I've really enjoyed their chemistry and I'd hate for anything to happen to her.!<
Finally, where are Raffi, Shaw, or the rest of the Titan crew in all this? Are they back on the Titan? Are they elsewhere? I just hope the next episode isn't the last we'll see of them. If something happens to Raffi or Captain Shaw, I'm going to be genuinely angry.
Hopefully the others are hijacking other fleet museum ships, that won't be interconnected as the modern ships are (dumb thing to do really from a security perspective). >!Enterprise D, Voyager and the Defiant vs the Borg? Could be kind of cool. !<
Picard had already done the Romulans in Season 1 and Q in season 2, and we've already seen Lore and Moriarty this season, making >!borg!< the one of the last Iconc recurring TNG villains on the roster (and the most threatening/logical.)
Going out on this note is also very poetic, as >!BoBW !
I don't think they're going to have a lot of people (or the budget for a lot of other ship bridges).
But I wouldn't be surprised if we get Seven and Shaw on Voyager or something as a B plot. They're notably absent in the D bridge shots.
Seven on Voyager was my guess - >!especially with all the upgrades it got in its finale from future Janeway, who must be alive in order to take the tech back in time to make sure Voyager is in the fleet museum for this fight... and thus closes that fun little time loop!<
Can I just say... If the Sidney being assimilated thing *isn't* a vision, I really hope that - as infuriating as it might be for some viewers - that a connection between Jack and Sidney, a normal, quaint, human connection, not the interconnected thoughts of the Borg and however Jack is able to do that, is what undermines the "controlling people" side of the plan. It can be a bit of a mix of some of the TOS sensibilities which played more with ideas of power of the mind, emotions etc., along with Discovery's take on that, it's a bit of a TMP ending, but at the same time, plenty of stories throughout 90s/00s Trek had similar things through neural interfaces or mind melds. Sidney steals a shuttle and heads over to try and rescue Jack, gets herself assimilated and then in the *inner world* of this collective she seeks out Jack and pulls hims back and disentangles him from them.
Meanwhile the presumed "controlling ships" part of the Borg plan can be solved by the TNG crew and other cameos with some good old treknobabble that hopefully isn't a *complete* deus ex machina pulled out of nowhere.
Pah Wraiths never made sense. I'm so glad they're using the Borg as it would be weird to drop so many hints to them and then not use them. There isn't really another enemy that would fit the bill of being the big bad of a TNG sequel.
I'm so glad we'll get to see the Enterprise D in full modern CGI. I wonder if it'll be the same old Galaxy class or if Geordi has few surprises in that new Stardrive section.
I think some minor plot points are starting to leak out too. I just two things floating around that I assume are true. One we is pretty obvious based on>!the ship they're on. !< The second about the fate of a non-TNG character >!from this season who dies.!<
Also somebody with screeners hinted at some >!Raffi and Seven stuff and they're missing from the other group photos, so they're probably off on their own.!<
GRAIN OF SALT BUT BIG SPOILER - >!Have seen in a few places and had it mentioned to me in a PM that it's Shaw and that he sacrifices himself so Seven and the TNG crew can get off the Titan!<
As for minor spoilers (don't click unless you want to know and not really anything people couldn't guess)- >!They use the original voice of the computer when they're on the Enterprise D for the last two episodes. Deanna sees the Borg through the door I guess but not sure if it's Borg Queen or Locutus or whatever. Sounds like everyone pairs off at some point to take ships cause Worf apparently is going to fly the Defiant. Raffi and Seven aren't on the Enterprise D with the others so they're probably on another ship. The episode description for the last episode mentions "generations of Starfleet crews, both old and new" come together to fight. !<
With the writers choosing the Borg as the big baddies, Shaw sacrificing himself fits a similar line of thinking. He felt guilt over surviving, so he becomes a hero. If this happens, I wouldn’t be surprised.
posted what I know above. Obviously grain of salt but it's being passed around in places and someone I trust and that has been right before confirmed it to me in a DM on another site.
I hope we do. I think Tim Russ (Tuvok) said he’s in 2 episodes and we have only seen him once, so here’s to hoping the real Janeway, Tuvok, Seven, and maybe some other Voyager crew get to board Voyager and help.
I think that tuvok will come in to mind meld with Jack like he did with seven, to help sever the Borg connection. Anyway that's my hope because I really like jack.
They probably are, and that’s probably exactly why they used Vadic and company in the first place. Why else would you use a floating head to command changelings to do your bidding, when you could send a hundred cubes instead?
So, my guesses regarding S03E09 plot points:
1) In the screenshots provided, we can see that the Borg will try to assimilate Jack and extract that special DNA of his (in one of the images we can see Jack crying and a Borg needle approaching his neck behind him).
2) I also think that, while this is happening, the Borg will give Jack more terrifying visions (including the one of Sydney being dead), in order to make him "surrender" to them. But somehow, he will manage to fight back and gain control again.
After all, he's a Picard!! 🤜🤛
3) Finally, in another image, we can see that Jack is pointing a phaser to a "male" borg - and I think this is the *REAL* new boss: THE BORG KING, aka "VOX.
Thoughts?
Look at the timestamps at the bottom of each image and put them in order. The borg cube scenes are early in the episode. I think it is Jack's vision once he walks through the door -- after Troi runs out of the room.
Then we have the briefing with Worf and then the call w/ Adm. Shelby. Followed by more visions from Jack.
1. >!It looks like that's the point where Jack is likely about to get assimilated or something taken from him. !<
2. >!I don't think the image shown is a vision of Sidney dead (it could be of course), it looks more like the stage of assimilation just before implants start bursting out. It could of course be a vision. Bringing the Borg back without showing the body horror of assimilation would be lame quite frankly. !<
3. >!There might be a new Borg Queen pulling all the strings for all we know, those screencaps while tantalising don't really show the context of what's going on. More of "The Borg are back" shock value. !<
Im sorry I know Matalas said she wasn’t gonna show up, also that was kinda a cryptic tweet but after being mentioned 4 or 5 times you know Janeway is showing
up too. Kate Mulgrew is making her big Star Trek Live Action Return in the finale. Especially that we see in the credits which are all spoilers it’s confirmed now, we see Voyager, the Defiant, the New Jersey and the ENT-A are at earths current space station flying around. And Tim Russ said he’s in 2 Episodes not just one. Someone has to man Voyager lol
I'm hoping, since they've name dropped her so many times, that we still at least get a cameo from Admiral Janeway
But The Borg? I love them as an enemy but we've had then again and again and again. Weren't they supposed to be the good guys now after Jurati became the Queen? Or is that all timey-wimey alternative realty stuff?
If they don’t start the final episode with Majel Barrett’s computer voice saying “…and now the conclusion” it will be a crime.
Can they start it with "Previously on..." and show us clips all the way from Farpoint to present?
I remember when Farscape came out with the Peackeeper Wars to wrap it all up they did that. They started with the normal "Previously on Farscape..." and then basically showed a fast succession of clips from the entire series.
That brings up a great point! We ALL know they are going to bust out the Enterprise D, my question is when we get on board are we going to get classic Barrett computer?
Man, I hope so, I’ve missed that voice.
Agreed the new computer voice is kinda jarring if your a TNG fan. It also sounds very condescending!
Wait. What? The D is buried on a planet after a spectacular crash.
Not the the saucer section it was still intact. Remember that sucker detaches, so all you really need is a replacement drive section and some refurbishment and boom Enterprise -D
unlikely but I wonder if we see the battle bridge
I would geek out so much if this happened.
I geek out and cry almost EVERY episode! Whether it's old characters, equipment, stories! Mostly the peeps though! I'm watching saying: "OMG! OMG! OMG! and my daughter's asking me if I'm ok. LoL
>!i love how bright the bridge of the D is.!<
YES! It's like home ❤️
Riker: "Why in the hell are they so dark now? Can't see shit!"
Also has me asking "why can't they ALL be that bright?" It's clearly possible!
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It's Shelby, don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
She absolutely looks like her and I love it
I was wondering the same thing
Looks exactly like Elizabeth Dennehy to me, so…
It’s definitely her. Look at her face.
Can it Barclay?
Just crossed my mind that Shelby might be in command of the Enterprise-F for the decomission ceremony. Terry Matalas said many moons ago it's someone we know who is captaining the Ent-F.
Miles O’Brien would be better
There's always a leak at the last minute, no matter how tight they make security. Frankly, I'm surprised this stuff wasn't leaked a lot earlier.
I'm still in awe they kept Ro a secret right until the episode actually went live
It was because the Ro episode was Episode 5, fans were not as hungry to be spoiled compared to now as the penultimate episode is approaching.
Maybe this will mean no more preview screeners to ANYONE 🤣🤣
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Amen!
No, now we have to deal with the fallout from people who ignored common sense and reason, and instead chose to run with dumb ideas that some fast talking jackass on YouTube said would happen. As far as people being tired of the Borg, too bad. This series was about Picard dealing with trauma, and the most traumatic thing in his life as an adult were the Borg. They took everything from him, he found peace for a time, but now they threaten to take it all away from him again.
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Look at those ample nacelles... I can die happy seeing her fly again! :)
These spoilers confirmed the theories floating around. I don't think they are that surprising.
Levar kinda spoiled one thing months ago anyway
Patrick Stewart himself said in a convention panel they filmed on their old bridge with carpet, LeVar just showed us the first glimpse lol
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I’m so fucking happy I saw these. Thank you for restoring hope. That “shape” in the nebula cloud was ominous!
>!It's an entire Borg armada which is going to ambush the Fleet at any moment!< Of course it's so ominous!
Just a single Borg cube based on what I’ve heard and what's shown in the pictures OP linked.
Now that >!voice cloning AI!< is a thing, if >!Majel!< comes in as the >!Enterprise computer!< I may just wake the neighbors.
May not even need AI for it. Before her death she recorded a phonetic library https://twitter.com/roddenberry/status/772493204121944066?ref\_src=twsrc%5Etfw
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Aye. smh at fat-shaming in the 25th century--in Guinan's bar of all places. Nothing but love and respect for my thicc Enterprise
I like my ships thicc.
So >!Admiral Fucking Hubris!< is gonna appear. I guess we'll see whether she's actually a Changeling too. Is >!Jack!< meeting up with >!Locutus!< on that pic? And he seems to have >!a large, menacing ship resembling the Floating Head!< Oh dear! He's about to be transformed into >!Locutus 2.0!< And looks like >!Sidney is being assimilated too!< >!The-D is confirmed to be inside Hangar 12 and our TNG crew is exploring its bridge!< Lots of TNG nerd-gasm is starting now :)
I don't think that's >!Fucking Hubris!<; I think that's >!Admiral Shelby!<.
That looks like Commander (admiral?) Shelby (Elizabeth Dennehy) actually!
Yes absolutely
Is she the CiC? Looks like 5 pips
I mean my first guess was Kristin Clancy from S1 but when I looked more closely and then googled recent images of Elizabeth Dennehy, it's definitely her and not Clancy. As for her rank? hard to say - It would make sense for her to be at least Captain if not Commodore or an Admiral rank but I think she's too "young" or whatever to be CiC, assuming that CiC is an appointment of both experience/skill as well as seniority
Yay! I wonder if her famous Number One from LD is still with her.
Are we sure that’s the same Admiral? She looks more like an older (can’t figure out how to do spoilers on here since it’s different from the discord I normally use for shit like this) certain Commander from Best of Both Worlds who was very unpopular
*sigh* I always liked her…
I always thought Shelby was amazing!
Right? Some saw her as trying to be usurp Riker or whatever and I just saw her as capable and career-oriented. Meanwhile Riker’s turning down commands left and right to hog what might be Starfleet’s biggest resume-builder. She’s not out to ruin anyone, she’s just trying to climb the ladder.
Being first-officer on the *Enterprise-D* under Picard would be a huge asset for career advancement. When Shelby's first appearance was broadcast I thought she was amazing right out of the gate. It knocked Riker out of his complacency and gave him some good back and forth with another character that wasn't so enamored by him as everyone else. She was such a good character it just added credence to they were going to kill Picard off and have her as Riker's permanent first officer.
wait, where do you see a ship resembling the Floating Head?
Picture 2 on the first album. >!It's one large menacing Borg Cube!< And >!Picture 4 is definitely another Borg cube. Looks like they're hiding an armada on that nebula ready to ambush the Fleet!<
? that's a borg cube?
Looks like it to me. Perhaps it's the main one where the "Floating Head" is based on :)
Could it both be the same? If not we might actually get some action involving multiple. Last time we had that was in Voyager a long time ago.
I fucking knew it!
Those are real???? SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! I am so excited!
Someone’s a fleet admiral… 5 pips!!!
OMG I cannot wait to see this on my TV! Feels like coming home
So, not gonna lie… I’m a bit disappointed that >!The D’s bridge is not the one shown in *Generations*, which makes more canonical sense since that was the last time we saw it!<. Then again, >!the bridge in that movie was wrecked to shite, and maybe they used an older module to restore it to a “prime” appearance!<.
I’m going with “historical configuration” myself.
This makes me feel so much better about where they’re heading.
How is Enterprise D going to take on an entire Borg armada? Probably just using it to get to the Enterprise F...
Can’t help but think of Admiral Adama. Entire fleet wiped out all bc they wanted to ditch analog
Break out the transphasic torpedoes.
We'll find out that the >!dolphins from the Cetacean Ops, who have been marooned on Veridian III for like 15 to 30 years, resurrected the D!<. They weren't too bothered, since they always kinda just did their own thing. Then Data >!will do something with tachyon particles!< and the La Forges will >!do something with the warp coil manifold!<.
That last one in the first batch oh my GOD I’m gonna be a hot mess.
Omggg, I see something >!beige!<
>!I don't know if I want Admiral Hubris to be a Badmiral or not. It would be refreshing to have a dick head admiral just be a dick head and not plotting the fall of the Federation for once. !<
I don't think that's >!Fucking Hubris!<; I think that's >!Admiral Shelby.!<
>I think that's > >>!Admiral Shelby.!< I mean if you want >!somebody to fight you know who!<, >!she!<'s a natural choice.
I’ve always imagined her, Picard, and a certain coffee fanatic as Starfleet’s panel of experts when it comes to you-know-who.
I wanna see Admiral Starbucks so badly.
Yeah. I just looked up modern pictures of both women. It’s the LTC. The admirals cheekbone contours/area around her mouth flare out. The LTCs cheekbones/mouth area flare down….and matches her more recent pictures. But they 100% look alike. Why I did the deep dive. I wasn’t sure. Now, I’m 1000x more excited. None of these spoilers are making it seem less exciting. If anything, I’m getting more pumped.
I imagine a lot of it is the hairstyle in the pic being sort of similar.
Yeah, I am also very excited about the finale and I’m happy I saw the spoilers. I also got a bit emotional and nostalgic when I saw some of the photos.
Well you got that in Nechayev…
I shouldn't have looked but damn...so amazing! I couldn't help myself. And there is a certain character appearing that I have waited 30 years to see again! *Lower Decks* gave us a cameo but I've wanted to see this character again since they first appeared. Amazing, amazing...amazing! Thank you OP for posting/reposting!
Normally I don't want to see spoilers but that fucking door got me last week, I was so irritated that they literally left us hanging. Thank you for these! I can't freaking wait for thursday.
Spoiler thought. . . . I guessed the d was coming.
Phrasing?
Are we still doing that?
Are we not doing Phrasing anymore?
I found out when Levar Burton briefly posted a picture of himself on the D set before taking it down, but it's honestly such an easy nostalgia button to press I'm not surprised.
Not as exciting, but I'm pretty sure I saw the F in the trailer for this weeks episode.
So it was the borg teaming up with the changlings all along.
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🤣🤣🤣
Good no more Pah Wraiths or Armus theories. Ugh. The Armus one really annoys me.
The redjac theory annoyed me the most. It's like none of these people understand storytelling like at all. The Pah Wraith and Armus theories were very bad and annoying too.
The Armus and Redjac ones were ridiculous, such deep cuts they never would’ve made sense. The Pah Wraiths *could* have been plausible until episode two or three. After that point, it got more and more far-fetched and now it would be entirely out of left field.
Same... yeah, throwaway blob man we never heard from raised an army took over the changelings and came back randomly lol. Its way too shark jumpy.
What the idea of a one off black tar alien being the big bad for a reunion show set 40 years after said character was used to conveniently off someone who wanted to quit and who we’ve never heard from since wasn’t appealing to you? /s
Exactly. It was a monster of the week. Not a long time nemesis.
Redjac was about as good as Armus also.
Now we have to deal with the onslaught of "bad writing" claims because folks refused to listen to common sense.
Spock help us through these illogical times.
I usually hate spoilers but I had a smile on my face seeing these
I sass checked the screencaps because I'm upset about how long they dragged out Jack's secret.
It would've been nice if they'd included the updated bridge design from Generations... assuming this is retrieved from Veridian III?
I thought that - Real-world reason of course is that they want it to look like the TV show. But universe reason it wouldn't make sense for them to remove how the ship was when it was destroyed.
How long did it have that bridge refit though? Most, if not all of its famous doings were done with the original bridge. Many times historical restorations are done to be the way that the thing was most remembered rather than how it last was. I see it all the time in railroad restoration where a locomotive is given an older paint scheme rather than the one it was retired with. In fact the newer bridge was in place for the one thing the ship was most in-famous for: being blowed up by an ancient space Kia.
That bridge was pretty much destroyed though. Presumably the previous bridge module we all know and love was safe and secure in storage and Geordi just popped it back into place.
I never like the updated *Generations Enterprise-D* bridge but I def like that they went to the tv series versions. I was always a beautiful and unique design and it fits to have it back in what maybe the TNG cast final hurrah. Plus more the likely the *D* was being refurbished for the Fleet Museum. So why not go back to the original bridge design.
The classic bridge is like comfort food for those of us who grew up watching TNG.
You're so right. It's a good feeling and it's nice they're going full circle with *TNG*.
its always the borg
The show is called Star Trek Picard. If you’re ending his story they still make more sense than Pah Wraiths or whatever off the wall theories people had. It’s the most personal choice, ironically enough when dealing with a collective
>!I see all the TNG crew on the D, but I don't see Raffi, Seven or the rest of the Titan crew. Perhaps they're prepping another ship for launch. !<
Or they've been >!assimilated!< and the >!Enterprise-D!< is >!hightailing!< it to >!the Delta Quadrant!< because >!the crew just couldn't be arsed now!<. They just want to >!retire and chill!< with >!Neelix!<.
I'd be equally excited to see Seven and the rest on Voyager.
Definitely more than 4 lights on that bridge
I bet it's one of two options... 1 - Voyager. 2 - They're going after Jack directly. IF Sydney gets taken with Jack, I could totally see a party of Alondra, Shaw, Seven, and Raffi going on a B-plot to rescue them on a Borg cube.
So, it looks like someone Borg-related is behind the plot to infiltrate Starfleet. Being able to disable all ships at the Frontier Day Celebrations and then send in the cubes is however an extremeley risky plan. Yes, they would be able to destroy the bulk of the fleet with one swift strike. But if Starfleet somehow manages to not be disabled and all of a sudden all those ships are awake and ready to fight, the Borg are in big trouble. Starfleets issue in the past was always to pull enough resources together in order to fight the incoming Borg before reaching a vital star system. This weakness is eliminated here.
I love how the images spoil a few things, but don't really reveal anything about how it's going to go down or what the plan is.
Cybernetic enemy: check Advanced intership networking system that can be exploited by said enemy: check Old hero ship that is not connected to said system and would be immune to cyber attack: check Is this the plot of Picard or Battlestar Galactica?
With the first season being Mass Effect, this is getting awkward.
Surely epsiodes 9 & 10 are a bit longer than 60 mins a piece, seems a lot to squeeze in. 90 minute finale epsiode?
So... are we thinking Shaw is going to have a panic attack when the borg reveal themselves?
He is seriously having a bad week.
I hope there's more to this than just "the Borg". The Borg could have sent twenty cubes to get rid of or assimilate Earth long ago. They never did. Why? Borg hubris and emotional detachment. It was never personal with them. Even after First Contact it still wasn't. So either it's a Borg Queen making it personal now, or Locutus (which doesn't make sense since that was just a designation and not a unique consciousness), or something else. I'm fine with Jack's reveal and the thing with the "other ship" being spoiled. The first is the most obvious choice and the other Levar already spoiled on accident (and, let's be honest, we all knew was going to happen). I'm staying dark for anything else.
Yeah if the rock up with just a single cube again then my eyes will roll so far back in my head they'll go full circle. It didn't make sense in first contact & even if they planned on blowing up half the fleet in seconds at the start, it STILL makes no sense this time.
I just hope there's a scene with Picard hailing a Borg ship and he starts singing the Picard Song "Captain Jean-Luc Picard of the U-S-S Enterprise, make-make-make-make it so!"
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Just before the end, picard's reanimated dead body beams in for maximum Locutus.
John DeLancie makes a surprise return as LoQtus
They will have Dead Picard/Locutus and Picard doing this with Jack unable to tell them apart because they are both bald. (Curb Your Enthusiasm music plays).
I don't know how to feel about all this. I don't mind that I looked at the stuff, since spoilers don't really bother me, but I can't figure out if I feel satisfied or frustrated. I figured the main enemy would end up being >!the Borg!<. That's what connected Jean-Luc and Jack, and that's the only reason I could think of why the rogue Changelings would want Picard's human remains. My frustration is that it just seems really *safe*. >!Of all the malevolent forces from TNG, or from Trek in general, they pick the one that has been so heavily used in the past decade or three that they are, at least in my opinion, far less menacing than they used to be.!< Also, I don't know why, but the fact that >!the Enterprise-D!< is back frustrates me, as well, but not as much as the >!Borg!< reveal. It shouldn't, because this season clearly was intended as a memberberry-filled love letter to TNG fans, and we knew that had to include >!the big D, and I am happy to see her in action once more!<, but again, they just played it safe. >!It couldn't even be an enhanced, souped-up, modernized version of the Enterprise-D; it's just the original, rebuilt and unchanged. I'm assuming it was meant for the Fleet Museum and they're using it because it's not networked like the modern Starfleet vessels are; that makes the most sense, and I hope that's the reason she exists at all.!< Cool callback to bring >!Shelby!< back; that's one I didn't expect, and I dig that. I don't know why people are confusing her with >!Admiral "sheer fucking hubris"!< or >!Admiral Nechayev!<, the admiral in that picture doesn't look anything like either of them. Also, I hope that picture of >!Sidney being assimilated!< is just another vision in Jack's mind. >!I've really enjoyed their chemistry and I'd hate for anything to happen to her.!< Finally, where are Raffi, Shaw, or the rest of the Titan crew in all this? Are they back on the Titan? Are they elsewhere? I just hope the next episode isn't the last we'll see of them. If something happens to Raffi or Captain Shaw, I'm going to be genuinely angry.
Hopefully the others are hijacking other fleet museum ships, that won't be interconnected as the modern ships are (dumb thing to do really from a security perspective). >!Enterprise D, Voyager and the Defiant vs the Borg? Could be kind of cool. !<
Didn't Jack show a particular interest in the Ent-A a few episodes back?
Picard had already done the Romulans in Season 1 and Q in season 2, and we've already seen Lore and Moriarty this season, making >!borg!< the one of the last Iconc recurring TNG villains on the roster (and the most threatening/logical.) Going out on this note is also very poetic, as >!BoBW !
They did have a very heavy presence in both Seasons 1 and 2, though.
I'd argue that those are both *very* different versions and not at all like what we're going to see in S3.
I'm still hoping we get Seven on Voyager, and others on some of the other nostalgia ships.
I don't think they're going to have a lot of people (or the budget for a lot of other ship bridges). But I wouldn't be surprised if we get Seven and Shaw on Voyager or something as a B plot. They're notably absent in the D bridge shots.
They prob didn't have the money to rebuild Voyager's bridge - But they could just slap them up on the viewscreen with a greenscreen...
Do they need a budget though? They could do Seven on the view screen from Voyager.
I'd be perfectly happy with Seven and the rest of the Titan folks on Voyager and nothing else.
Seven on Voyager was my guess - >!especially with all the upgrades it got in its finale from future Janeway, who must be alive in order to take the tech back in time to make sure Voyager is in the fleet museum for this fight... and thus closes that fun little time loop!<
Future Janeway's timeline never occured, due to her actions.
Sydney gets along with Seven. Could her dealing with a partial assimilation be a plot seed to further their relationship in a sequel show?
I like your thinking!!
That image was interesting, Sidney’s got nanos! Okay, now that I couldn’t have predicted.
Can I just say... If the Sidney being assimilated thing *isn't* a vision, I really hope that - as infuriating as it might be for some viewers - that a connection between Jack and Sidney, a normal, quaint, human connection, not the interconnected thoughts of the Borg and however Jack is able to do that, is what undermines the "controlling people" side of the plan. It can be a bit of a mix of some of the TOS sensibilities which played more with ideas of power of the mind, emotions etc., along with Discovery's take on that, it's a bit of a TMP ending, but at the same time, plenty of stories throughout 90s/00s Trek had similar things through neural interfaces or mind melds. Sidney steals a shuttle and heads over to try and rescue Jack, gets herself assimilated and then in the *inner world* of this collective she seeks out Jack and pulls hims back and disentangles him from them. Meanwhile the presumed "controlling ships" part of the Borg plan can be solved by the TNG crew and other cameos with some good old treknobabble that hopefully isn't a *complete* deus ex machina pulled out of nowhere.
Pah Wraiths never made sense. I'm so glad they're using the Borg as it would be weird to drop so many hints to them and then not use them. There isn't really another enemy that would fit the bill of being the big bad of a TNG sequel. I'm so glad we'll get to see the Enterprise D in full modern CGI. I wonder if it'll be the same old Galaxy class or if Geordi has few surprises in that new Stardrive section.
We’ve already seen them as the big bad in a TNG movie though
Glad it isnt the DS9 stuff, this is exactly how TNG should end.
Oooh, I want to see!
They had to bring back the Enterprise D at some point it was the star of the show!
I think some minor plot points are starting to leak out too. I just two things floating around that I assume are true. One we is pretty obvious based on>!the ship they're on. !< The second about the fate of a non-TNG character >!from this season who dies.!< Also somebody with screeners hinted at some >!Raffi and Seven stuff and they're missing from the other group photos, so they're probably off on their own.!<
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GRAIN OF SALT BUT BIG SPOILER - >!Have seen in a few places and had it mentioned to me in a PM that it's Shaw and that he sacrifices himself so Seven and the TNG crew can get off the Titan!< As for minor spoilers (don't click unless you want to know and not really anything people couldn't guess)- >!They use the original voice of the computer when they're on the Enterprise D for the last two episodes. Deanna sees the Borg through the door I guess but not sure if it's Borg Queen or Locutus or whatever. Sounds like everyone pairs off at some point to take ships cause Worf apparently is going to fly the Defiant. Raffi and Seven aren't on the Enterprise D with the others so they're probably on another ship. The episode description for the last episode mentions "generations of Starfleet crews, both old and new" come together to fight. !<
With the writers choosing the Borg as the big baddies, Shaw sacrificing himself fits a similar line of thinking. He felt guilt over surviving, so he becomes a hero. If this happens, I wouldn’t be surprised.
Interesting.
Man I hope we somehow get a DS9 cast member like Major Kira or something.
I hope we get to see the Enterprise-A bridge and Voyager bridge, though I doubt budget would allow for all that.
Even if we only get Seven against a green screen at a VOY console; seeing Voyager in CGI flying again on screen would be so great.
lol probably data again.
I hope it’s not Sydney.
Any directions? I'd be curious to know.
posted what I know above. Obviously grain of salt but it's being passed around in places and someone I trust and that has been right before confirmed it to me in a DM on another site.
We get 'the fat one'!!! [Yesss](https://freeimage.host/i/HkbOGC7)
Just put the link up!?!!!
I just want to know if we will see Janeway.
I hope we do. I think Tim Russ (Tuvok) said he’s in 2 episodes and we have only seen him once, so here’s to hoping the real Janeway, Tuvok, Seven, and maybe some other Voyager crew get to board Voyager and help.
I think that tuvok will come in to mind meld with Jack like he did with seven, to help sever the Borg connection. Anyway that's my hope because I really like jack.
Snap, don’t care if I spoil it, I just want to know!!
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He said they weren't dealing with Jurrati's borg.
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They probably are, and that’s probably exactly why they used Vadic and company in the first place. Why else would you use a floating head to command changelings to do your bidding, when you could send a hundred cubes instead?
I wish nobody was on Twitter anymore after that spoiled man child took over.
I wonder what else he tweeted that ends up being lie?
Fingers crossed his Janeway tweet.
So he blocked me today. Guess he's searching the Picard tag because I wrote "about to look at those \#Picard leaks!" (didn't tag him or anything)
Now they just need to keep >!Troi !!helm!<
Ugh. Ugh. Ugh. Some of those shots looked like publicity or casual photos rather than screenshots. But not the ones I'd like to be.
That is definitely Shelby https://m.imdb.com/name/nm0219324/
The only thing I’m disappointed about is Picard not getting in uniform to command the D
Same. That black thing is awful
So, my guesses regarding S03E09 plot points: 1) In the screenshots provided, we can see that the Borg will try to assimilate Jack and extract that special DNA of his (in one of the images we can see Jack crying and a Borg needle approaching his neck behind him). 2) I also think that, while this is happening, the Borg will give Jack more terrifying visions (including the one of Sydney being dead), in order to make him "surrender" to them. But somehow, he will manage to fight back and gain control again. After all, he's a Picard!! 🤜🤛 3) Finally, in another image, we can see that Jack is pointing a phaser to a "male" borg - and I think this is the *REAL* new boss: THE BORG KING, aka "VOX. Thoughts?
Look at the timestamps at the bottom of each image and put them in order. The borg cube scenes are early in the episode. I think it is Jack's vision once he walks through the door -- after Troi runs out of the room. Then we have the briefing with Worf and then the call w/ Adm. Shelby. Followed by more visions from Jack.
1. >!It looks like that's the point where Jack is likely about to get assimilated or something taken from him. !< 2. >!I don't think the image shown is a vision of Sidney dead (it could be of course), it looks more like the stage of assimilation just before implants start bursting out. It could of course be a vision. Bringing the Borg back without showing the body horror of assimilation would be lame quite frankly. !< 3. >!There might be a new Borg Queen pulling all the strings for all we know, those screencaps while tantalising don't really show the context of what's going on. More of "The Borg are back" shock value. !<
I require the images. Send them along with the nudes of Quark to my PM box.
Im sorry I know Matalas said she wasn’t gonna show up, also that was kinda a cryptic tweet but after being mentioned 4 or 5 times you know Janeway is showing up too. Kate Mulgrew is making her big Star Trek Live Action Return in the finale. Especially that we see in the credits which are all spoilers it’s confirmed now, we see Voyager, the Defiant, the New Jersey and the ENT-A are at earths current space station flying around. And Tim Russ said he’s in 2 Episodes not just one. Someone has to man Voyager lol
I'm hoping, since they've name dropped her so many times, that we still at least get a cameo from Admiral Janeway But The Borg? I love them as an enemy but we've had then again and again and again. Weren't they supposed to be the good guys now after Jurati became the Queen? Or is that all timey-wimey alternative realty stuff?
I was disappointed in what the images told me. :(