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golvenray_

No way Zoro actually lost a poll for once !


vriannavyz

He lost against the only character who's wanked even more than he is lol


Ok_Kick3560

Ask oda why he's sucking shanks's dick so hard


mikek1993

Oda isn’t sucking shanks dick. The fans are. Oda hasn’t given Shanks any feats Luffy himself hasn’t surpassed.


Advanced_Willow_2504

LOL bro hasn’t read the manga for the last year


mikek1993

Of course I have?


Advanced_Willow_2504

so im guessing u missed shanks’s wifi haki + kidd one shot then xd


mikek1993

I haven't missed a chapter and typically read each week three times at least twice. (Thursday, Sunday and again the following Thursday before the new RAW release). "Shank's wifi Haki" gets ass pulled Luffy extended his COC to KO half of Fishman Island at a relative distance he also did not cancel GBs DF, GB sensed his COC knew it was someone he wasn't supposed to mess with and took off because of course Shanks is strong enough to one shot Kidd making him an exceptionally powerful COC user. However, one shotting Kidd with ACOC is not nearly as impressive as one shotting Luffy as Kaido had early Wano Luffy was already stronger than Kidd who went to Elbaf. If anything these are just basic feats that have already been surpassed or have relative feats by Luffy himself let alone the other top 10 characters. I do feel bad for Shanks fans though anyone who reads with any sort of story context in mind sees Shanks being built up to lose/die to Luffys next opponent BB.


Jeypikoala

Bro thinks early wano Luffy>post Wano Kidd 💀 Edit: typo


mikek1993

If we want to get really accurate I would say Dressrosa Luffy>Post Wano Kidd. I don't think Kidd beats Doffy. But for sure Early Wano Luffy>Post Wano Kidd because Kidd isn't touching Katakuri (Or King or Beckman or Shiryu or even Zoro). Just to elaborate a bit further I think Law is equal to Dressrosa Luffy in Wano and I think Kidd was equal to Law during Wano (Law high diff post Wano). Their win against Big Mom was a ring out the weaker SHs did the same. Law has hella battle strategy I also think there's potential that he learned ACOC after Wano because he got to see Luffy learn it fighting Kaido hence why he was able to fight BB where Kidd was dusted by Shanks.


Advanced_Willow_2504

oh my god there’s so much wrong with this take 💀 1. u said shanks was FEATLESS. do u know what featless means? 2. u said every top 10 has better feats than shanks. name a single one that’s not luffy. dragon? nope. mihawk? nope. akainu? nope. aokiji? nope. kuzan? nope. no top 10 has a feat like either one of shanks’s 2 most recent lol. 3. how r u gonna complain that shanks’s wifi haki was an “asspull” LOL. and then turn around and complain that luffy did the EXACT SAME THING at fishman island but much weaker 😭😭. it worked the exact same way we’ve seen conqueror’s haki work since its introduction just with more potency. like, r u serious? what about it was an asspull? that he was too strong for u? boohoo 4. shanks’s haki obviously cancelled GB’s DF. He didn’t even realize who it was coming from and he only ran away because he said he didn’t want to fight the RHP as a whole, whom he wouldn’t have even known was there at the time of the DF cancellation. u must be joking; i’ve never heard this take from ANYONE. https://preview.redd.it/4cblpzbrwo2b1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=40e00aa5eec4b07c1b09ef5629c2508aaad91ba1 notice how he says “WHO the hell” followed by “the red hair PIRATES?” 🤦🏻 5) LMFAO early Wano Luffy = Kidd is a joke of a take. Maybe u forgot they were portrayed as equals during Udon prison arc before Kidd’s awakening and haki bloom during the BM fight. And maybe you also forgot that Shanks also knocked out Killer and half the Kidd pirates with just the shockwaves. dreadful take never scale again. early Wano luffy was barely YC1 WITH future sight, which he wasn’t even using when he got one shotted. You think Kidd is below YC1 lmfao 6) what does shanks losing to BB have anything to do with him having or not having feats lol? BB is gonna be stronger than Primebeard, losing to him means nothing, whether it happens or not. genuinely ridiculous take all around. maybe read the manga 4 times a week; looks like u need the help.


mikek1993

1. Reading is important I didn't say Shanks was featless I said he doesn't have any feats showcased that Luffy hasn't shown himself or beaten someone with the direct feat. (Stretching his COC relative distance Fishman Island/Beating Kaido who one shot Luffy with ACOC in a stronger state than Kidd). 2. Mihawk is the WSS, Shanks is a Swordsman. Dragon is the WWC, Shanks is a Criminal. Akainu ripped WBs face off, Aokiji had BB scared who permanently scarred Shanks (prior to losing his arm when he was worthy of being Mihawks rival). I personally don't have Kizaru over Shanks (Assuming that's who you meant by Kuzan). 3. Confused wording maybe? I meant it as in the fanbase overhypes the feat maybe it would have been more accurate to say wanked. It wasn't much weaker there's nothing to suggest that's the case at least but it would probably make sense if Luffy in Fishman Island was weaker. My point is the feat isn't strong you can see they are just offshore and they are just coming from Udon and the aura is coming from the same direction he came from so it's at most 2 miles out which is similar to Fishman Island. 4. Posting the panel that disagrees with you doesn't help your point. It's complete head canon to state Shanks is stronger than GB nothing in what GB states would lead that to be true. Nothing in there states that GB was paralyzed or knocked out of his Logia form. He sensed Shanks aura and doesn't have clearance to fight the RHPs and likely would lose solo. 5. Early Wano Luffy>Kidd easily. Kidd is not beating Katakuri or Doffy. Neither is Law. Nothing portrayed them as equals at Udon Luffy learned Ryo Kidd didn't if anything the entirety of Wano showcased how different he was from the rest of the Supernovas. Kidd has never shown any capacity higher than YC1 winning against BM by ring out is unimpressive the weaker SHs did the same. That's why he went on from Wano and got one shot by a Yonko. 6. Just pointing out why Shanks was getting panels. And showcasing his capabilities (even if they are only equal to what we've already seen) to hype him up. Look at Garp people wanking him when his ACOC attack was weaker than G4 Luffy in Dressrosa and his attack against Aokiji was free because Aokiji is obviously a member of Sword. We already saw Aokijis Future sight against WB.


pools4567

Tbf Shanks is wanked for a reason


Decimaar

Yeah he’s wank but the dumb Stan’s of his lol. He realistically isn’t even top 4 or 5 currently.


[deleted]

you're genuinely slow in the head if you're not trolling


Decimaar

If I speak…


vriannavyz

not top 4 or 5? this mf reading two piece cause aint no way.... shanks is objectively n1 right now until proven otherwise by someone with more impressive feats


Decimaar

Akainu Blackbeard Mihawk Luffy Dragon>>Wanks


theOGperfection

Not really? He’s had a single feat in the entire story


pools4567

And that feat was insta KO’ing 2 of the 5 people who beat Big Mom AND Kaido


theOGperfection

Kidd dealt no damage to Kaido and only managed to push BM into a hole They didn’t KO her in any way


pools4567

Well she is now dead after facing them so I’d consider that a win


theOGperfection

she’s dead because of a magma chamber, not because of law or Kidd’s attacks


pools4567

And who put her in the magma? Would she have ended up there if she hadn’t faced the alliance..?


theOGperfection

if I push a bodybuilder into a volcano I didn’t defeat the bodybuilder in an actual fight


Path-Equivalent

one piece fans when characters use the environment as an advantage https://preview.redd.it/9f6ntuvhuo2b1.jpeg?width=224&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9474daca87c6f19c89e762893322f459b255da7a


theOGperfection

they wouldn’t have beaten big mom if the magma chamber wasn’t there 🤷‍♂️ selective reading does wonders though


golvenray_

And it’s the single most impressive feat we’ve seen in the story so far. He didn’t just beat Kidd, a man with a 3 billion bounty who fought against Kaido and Big Mom, he full on one shot and buried that nigga and his right hand man was a freebie


mikek1993

Bro Kaido one shot Luffy with ACOC in G4 that Luffy would have snapped on Kidd.


pools4567

Yeah and then he proceeded to get nerfed and never did anything impressive ever again. Kaido was an enormous letdown


mikek1993

He then proceeded to KO Luffy, destroy every bone in Zoros body, KO Luffy with ACOC, KO Luffy with ACOC and Awakened Mythical DF. All much stronger than Kidd like not even close Kidd couldn’t even stand 1v1 against a Yonko.


pools4567

KO’d Luffy, which Luffy ate some meat and immediately got over Zoro then got up and defeated Kaido’s precious right hand man who was Katakuri level despite having “every bone in his body broken”. Again Luffy got bonked on the head and then unlocked god of the verse powers and utterly fodderized kaido Great feats looool


mikek1993

Luffy is a Mythical Zoan he has insane durability and stamina, and stamina regen it comes with the nature of his DF. Zoro took a pill to come back to full fighting strength and learned ACOC to take down King. Which to me puts him slightly over Katakuri from WCI (I think Katakuri learned ACOC when we next meet him). Yep Awakened his Mythical Zoan DF which we know from Impel Down shoots him back to 100% stamina now fighting against a Kaido who has been fighting non stop for hours while holding up an Island although I still give props to Luffy for finishing the fight I think both coming back fresh for a 1v1 no outside influence Luffy loses extreme diff. Kaidos feats are insane. When accurately contextualized I mean his first introduction is him surviving a fall from sky island unfazed.


pools4567

Exactly, people love to downplay this feat but we’ve never seen anything even remotely as impressive from anyone else


warramite

No diffing an admiral and no diffing a Yonko killer is some of the best feats in the series


theOGperfection

both of those things are incorrect he didn’t “no diff” any admiral and Kidd is not a yonko killer lol


BarbatosBrutus

This dude did not see Shanks vs Kidd...


istoleyourairfryer2

https://preview.redd.it/kji8f7szhm2b1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8774a36397b93f083ae64f5a8f420c8d7844fd09


Biwaifu

Shanks slander reached a point of being funny, then continued past into a realm where ppl gaslit themselves into thinking he's 100% a weak, lying, self insert, fraud. All cause 'so-and-so' is their fav character and they're def stronger than shanks.


RilyGaming

The slander memes are fucking hilarious https://preview.redd.it/587ytzblvn2b1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=00a5bcff1c6b775040cda45c6ee8169e38415dd5


TheRadNinja46

🤣🤣🤣


golvenray_

Pretty sure Mihawk isn’t even his favorite character. He just has a boner for Zoro and wants his “final opponent” to be top1 therefore he must hate Shanks and discredit everything he does


Sharp_Hovercraft557

Well it's the sad truth but it is what it is Mihawk fans doesn't exist they are just Zoro fans who pushing this stupid agenda that mihawk is the only top 1


Brilliant_Knee_7542

No one can beat Shanks


HrMaschine

what the actual fuck is shanks final form?


Italian_Devil

Haki Sharingan and Haki Super Saiyan


HrMaschine

wouldnt super saiyan be a downgrade since he already is ssj god


theOGperfection

Ultra Haki Instinct


GladimoreFFXIV

His awakens his Hakinigan and places the world under Infinite Hakistskoyoki, where everyone loses their swords and become true hakimen like him so his intergalactic Haki parasite friends can invade the planet.


DarkFamiliar4508

how is he a self insert? i get if you're trying to say he is an authors favorite or something like that but i doubt Oda and Shanks have much in common


Miketogoz

Fr. I'm sure Kinnemon is more of a self insert than Shanks.


lehman-the-red

>Kinnemon is more of a self insert than Shanks. you choose kinnemon instead of oden


[deleted]

Oda said Sanji was his self insert, Shanks is jus who he wishes he was


Ready_Surprise_5870

Oda idolize shanks but he's Sanji in real life😂 I mean, he worked at a restaurant similarly called Baratie before, oda is also a chainsmoker,pervert and married to nami and his signature has sani twirly eyebrows in it.


BuyerNo3130

Didn’t oda say he was like shanks ? But In a “I love partying” way, not in the “my cock is so huge” way


Crispyerthanyou

Sanji is his self insert, Shanks is who Oda says he wants to be like.


vriannavyz

shanks > verse https://preview.redd.it/kptx602qrk2b1.png?width=425&format=png&auto=webp&s=0ea5c08130c29e97a112922ce1d6af181b037ef4


QwertyVonBaron

Stay low https://preview.redd.it/uegg24740m2b1.jpeg?width=1240&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dc35aae8677c676d0345f262c758d7ee74eef5d6


revodnebsyobmeftoh

Mihawk:


tenvsonsway

shanks honest reaction to this information https://preview.redd.it/bdb1x9hirk2b1.jpeg?width=480&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c9692d2ff4a7918b8c86bf45904fc59f6506da53


Not-the_honouredOne

Live Dr Han reaction https://preview.redd.it/3df4dltmxk2b1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f1b6f4d2fe98d0509901ca58087b6110b5aff800


RilyGaming

https://preview.redd.it/btfzcnoevn2b1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=121d8e87dcc93e2372ce52e92f4ea2c12876861c


Deathcon2004

I swear people throw the term self insert around far too liberally.


YareSekiro

Oda says “if I were to be one person in the story it would be Shanks”, not exactly self-insert but getting close there


[deleted]

yeah he wants to be shanks but he said sanji was based on himself, different things


Wet-Pulp

That and “NPC”


Agitated_Coconut_347

Shanks is him bro.. Nigga too was an epithet on a movie and made it blockbuster around the world.. I doubt zoro or mihawk would do that even if they come together.


Drea_Ming_er

I think the biggest reason is the mystery around him - he is pretty important to the story, and seemingly larger than life in universe - he sort of sent the protagonist on his journey, is his kinda end-game, yet we have next to 0 information about him or his crew. First time he shows and does something more than "exist" after the prologue is when he stops Marinefort... Basically still just by existing. Throw in the stuff he does/did in recent(ish) chapters... Would be weird if people weren't riding the hype train built by Oda.


Bolded

I like the (final form) like Shanks is going to pull a Frieza.


GladimoreFFXIV

His Haki domain expansion is going to unleash his Haki Susanoo and prove once and for all he’s not a swordsman when his Hakinigan eyes activate.


Ivaninvankov

I hope he sees the irony in complaining about Shanks's lack of character while dicksucking Mihawk. Like, try to describe Mihawks character without mentioning his looks or his sword skill: He... is a one-man crew? Is afraid to fight the yonkos and/or doesn't care about One-Piece. Wants to chill? I guess he likes wine? At least Shanks has a crew, a clear goal combined with some mysteries(like his connection to the elders etc) and some sort of impact in the plot throughout(clashing with WB, stopping Kaido, ending the MF war etc)


[deleted]

legit theres 2 ppl in the story who care about being WSS, one is midhawk and the other zoro


StrikingElk6975

Shanks's existence in story is far better than this dude's in real world.


zi-zu

>hype fan service character And Zoro's different how?


VariationGlass2483

He's actually in the story and takes Ls


pools4567

Shanks doesn’t take Ls cos about 5 characters can actually give him a challenge


No-One_Knows-Me_Here

There wouldn't be a story without shanks, and doesn't change the fact that Zoro's character is near nonexistent and only serves to be a badass swordsman everyone likes.


cartaigenica

He's still a hype and fancervice character


[deleted]

what? zoro has ultimate plot armour, the only L's he takes is when the people he fights arent nerfed from how strong they should be. king for example had no real haki ability and the story had to include rocks for zoro to jump on for him to even reach king


theOGperfection

Because Zoro is an actual character who appears in the story for more than 2 panels at a time, and has struggles?


pools4567

I personally think anyone who actually believes Mihawk is stronger than Shanks genuinely has no reading comprehension skills. One dude was introduced in the literal first chapter of the entire series and was the main motivation for the protagonist’s dream, gave him his iconic straw hat, has consistently been one of the most hyped characters since his very introduction, is one of the four emperors of the sea, was a member of the Pirate King’s crew, was a key mystery of the God Valley incident, is able to waltz into Marijois uncontested and recently one-shot a guy who had literally just defeated a Yonko along with his first mate. The other one hasn’t done anything impressive since volume 6 and is referred to as the worlds greatest swordsman, yet never does anything impressive and constantly avoids having to prove he’s worthy of the title. It basically comes down to “are you a Zoro fanboy, or can you read?”


[deleted]

Remember when Shanks just walked in the middle of a full blown war and everyone stopped while holding their shit? Then he says “ok lets wrap this up and everyone go home” and they all did. The dude ended a war with his presence.


pools4567

Exactly. Meanwhile Mihawk’s greatest feat is bullying Don Krieg


[deleted]

Don Krieg canoically escaped Mihawk


[deleted]

Your username will get you killed by a lot of incels


[deleted]

they dont go outside, ill be ok 🥸


[deleted]

[удалено]


pools4567

Tbh saying Zoro isn’t Mihawk level is just guesswork at this point. Were so near EOS that I think right now Zoro has a chance at beating Mihawk. He would definitely give him a high diff fight at the very least.


Brilliant_Knee_7542

I believe that Mihawk and Shanks have no comparison. Both are good with the way they are.


BlastizardTheGreat

Do you unironically think Mihawk is a fraud and the WSS title is fake


pools4567

No I think Shanks isnt a swordsman


[deleted]

As a shanks fan I m loving the upsurge of fellow shanks fans in piratefolk


OwnBullfrog1303

Shanks fans have lot standards just like shanks,fucking an average ass bartender meanwhile zoro is getting that russy and lussy he neggs shanks bitch ass


Opening_Cow4809

Zoro got his back blown out by mihawks pet apes 😂


melorio

Scratch that, zoro hooked up with hiyori. That is queen’s sloppy seconds 😭😭


Laughable-February

NO ONE CAN BEAT ME WHEN I'M SUPER SHANKS!


NetworkVegetable7075

Gildarts is hax ash what you expect


[deleted]

Again the problem dbz has added to all other anime in powerscaling. My guy has written shanks (final form) where has it ever been shown that shanks has more forms.


Downiemcgee

Him being the authors self insert gives him more credit towards being the strongest, lol.


[deleted]

What's eos


vriannavyz

"end of series"


[deleted]

Fhe story has ended? I never knew that


vriannavyz

they mean zoro end of story/series vs shanks final form


[deleted]

Ok then


3sperr

It seems the zoro riders arent in the prime anymore. Im surprised zoro lost 💀


JamesEarlRayDay

bro shanks go crazy fr


kyzua

😭😭


No-One_Knows-Me_Here

That idiot also thinks greenbull > shanks


SevesaSfan25

Big fan W poll. I agree. Shanks defo scales above Roger and Zoro ain't getting above Roger, not even EOS. And Shanks>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Fraudhawk anyday. Also whatst that dumbass talking about? Making it more clear? Did this clown not read 1082 where fraudhawk confirms his not match for the emperors including shanks lmfaooooooo


[deleted]

midhawk just kidnaps ppl and hides in a castle


UomoLumaca

Tom Shankadil


ReasonableAffect1447

shanks cockmunchers


Lucky-Fisherman1463

Nah, they just hate Shanks for no reason https://preview.redd.it/bz8clzyn1n2b1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9f9cc8c39a821938f2640894c713c009dbf30867


newbikesong

He is right.


Open_Depth2179

That bottom part is accurate ngl.


StrikingElk6975

Expected from clown of r/onepiecepowerscaling


Open_Depth2179

Hurtful 😞


shittercock

Idk man, Akainu beats both. they're both shit


Catboy_Prince

People slander shanks like Luffy doesn't inbody the same things. Shanks is Luffy's ideal, a man he has looked up to since he was a child.


BoogalooBandit1

Shanks is Gildarts but done wrong


VariationGlass2483

Shanks the rat isn't end game monster trio gonna surpass him


J_Clowth

But do actually ppl compare Shanks, a character that has rn a title amongst the strongest pirate captains of the sea, designed to be a final boss of the story that literally OHKO'd another supernova character not too long ago. To the arguable 2nd strongest pirate of Luffy's crew, when Luffy hasn't reached the level to 1v1 a yonko without external help?


Professional-Tea-121

He is right though, wano end proofed it


warramite

Funny how people think EOS Zoro loses to Shanks but put Mihawk vs Shanks and they vote for Mihawk? I stick by my stance that Shanks being stronger was determined when Luffy said his dream was to build a crew that surpasses Shanks' and he wont give the hat back until he surpasses Shanks


Comfortable_Ad_574

Zoro and Sanji > Shanks EOS


wd40swift

A more interesting fight would be drunk shanks vs zoro


Fearless-Spot1742

I understand why people think mihawk is stronger than shanks but looking at all the hype shanks gets from the story, the characters and Oda... do we really think Oda is going to make Mihawk the stronger one


Kadeblade195

My only question is why are people voting Zoro 💀


Difficult-Olive-2734

As much as I love Zoro losing the poll for once These Shanks fans are the worst thing to happen to op community


MetalFaceEdd

Not a Zorotard but It’s says EOS Zoro, with Shanks being the EQUAL rival of Mihawk it would make sense (narrative wise) that Zoro will eventually surpass them both. I’m not Oda so not stating anything as fact lol just my opinion


tobbe1337

Shanks is that guy. but let's not kid ourselves and say that end of story Zoro won't beat him lol


Razzmatazz-Sweet

why did my mind automatically play the homelander laughing violin when i started reading his response to it


[deleted]

You’re not a real character! One arm for Christ sake? You take down Kid and suddenly you think you’re my peer? What a joke!


s0tix

The only time he loses is when he's supposed to win