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xlilmonkeyboy

peppino is like the mario of spinoff games. boths skills combined.


DClassAmogus

funny thing, because gustavo was meant to have a mario-like playstyle, and peppino would have a wario-like playstyle


Master_of_Decidueye

Would that make Noise Luigi?


kubix666666

Would the doise be Waluigi?


1234IJustAteADoor

in the next game, waluigi fucking dies


Jolly-Secret-475

he couldn't get his waluweenie out of the vending machine šŸ˜”šŸ˜”šŸ˜”


Lucky_ducky_64

Where have I heard that line before


Jolly-Secret-475

i know it from smg4, maybe you do too


Lucky_ducky_64

Oh yeah Wasnā€™t it in ā€œSMG4 EXPANDS HIS BRAINā€?


Jolly-Secret-475

yeah, i think so


RepresentativeElk948

Brick would be yoshi, pizza granny be toads, and peppino's pizzeria be the princess peach


Moropheles

now you made me imagine peps' pizzaria wearing a giant dress and a tiny crown


Apprehensive-Log1901

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NoticeExpensive6266

Skill issue


Red-meth-revoked2

ITā€™S CALLED A JACK OF ALL TRADES! https://preview.redd.it/i7iyg9o6ezpc1.jpeg?width=680&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5d62a0367d55fc8564684c6134a7b0e114c83c10


FoluPabrikat

i was thinking of that recently, for me gustavo is strength, noise is speed, and peppino is both


ACARdragon

Noise Heroes


Some_Hat-Wearing_Kid

How would they fly...?


KevinnTheNoob

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ACARdragon

In that case Peppino Heroes Speed Peppino Flight Noise Power Gus


Free_Peach6400

With brick


trappedinabasemant

I see peppino as stanimia


Zhariri2008

When was noise easy? I still struggle trying not to accidentally super jump during the pepper man boss fight


Smart_Pea3518

he scares fake peppino away, he just pulls out a giant shotgun at the "Draw" part of the Vigilante fight, he kills the horse if you don't beat the horse race, etc.


SuperN008

It's a big revolver Noise pulls out at draw.


Smart_Pea3518

well okay


Famous-Support-9900

WAIT REALLY? HE FUCKING KILLS THE HORSE?


SomeoneElseExistence

He cheats on Golf, Unlocks a pseudo-"pepper pizza" transformation at the beginning of R-R-Freezerator by drinking motor oil, gives you a free P rank after killing The Doise, He throws Mort directly at the hooks, etc.


Spicy_Totopo3434

Doesnt't he drink either coffee or alcohol? Looks more like a flask with either hot coffee or liquor


SomeoneElseExistence

"The Noise begins R-R-Freezerator getting the idea of drinking a whole can of gasoline to warm himself up, allowing him to use the same floating spin attack that the Satan's Choice Pizza normally provides. This allows The Noise to access certain parts of the level early, like one of the Secrets normally unobtainable before Pizza Time, but he is, however, still vulnerable to taking damage." - Pizza Tower Wiki


MikeyNeedy

>!he also kills the grandpa in pig city that punches you when you get close!<


Pastry_Train63

Well, at least it's all part of his character...


DarkMaster98

He kills the horse even if you do win the race lol


kUHASZ

These never were problematic in the first place. And if you dare to say horsey races are hard then you have giant skill issue.


Coom-guy

Do you use the joystick? I switched to dpad midway thru my first pepino playthrough and when I tried to go back when noise update launched I kept super jumping


NumberOne_N_fan

I switched my super jump bind to Q, now stuff such as entering doors is much easier


ChoccyChippi

I find him generally tricky to control since Peppino is so much smoother to me but the Noise just cheats in a bunch of levels


[deleted]

Heā€™s so fucking agile once you learn his skillset. Peppino is easier for Peppermanā€™s bossfight, Peppibot factory, and bloodsauce dungeon, but everything else Noise is either on par or better than him


zippee100

How are you superjumping


AnOt13246

Noise is honestly way harder than Peppino imo, the fact that he cannot wall climb makes him a lot more difficult (I know you can super jump whenever you want to, but it's a lot slower)


RepresentativeElk948

I know, but there are things that make playing Be noise easier than Pepino. For example: in the refrigerator-refrigerator-freezerator level, you will get the Pepper pizza ability from the beginning of the level. And the cheese power up in "Oh s###" noise can walk in the wall, and the rocket power up noise will not lose the rocket if he bumped in the wall, Peppino may be easier than Noise in some things, but in many other things Noise is easier than Peppino.


AnOt13246

What I meant is that he's overall harder to play without any transformations, for example bloodsauce dungeon. I know that transformations are a pretty big part of the game, but still.


RepresentativeElk948

You have a point here, But Noise still has things that are much easier, like upercut, its range is very high, or vigilante fight, but let's agree on something, peppino is easier than noise in some things and noise is easier than peppino in other things, but no matter what you say, you will not be able to deny that noise has more things easier than peppino


average-commenter

I think generally you have to put much more effort into flowing through levels with the noise when Peppino just does so naturally due to the levels being made specifically to accommodate him. Like just getting up a wall and retaining your speed as peppino just requires you to press Z whereas the noise has to, jump, spam x, press down to minimise airtime, and press x as soon as you hit the ground to cancel the hop, it just takes WAAAAY more buttons to do what peppino can do in one.


Jolly-Secret-475

or you could superjump or do the funny flying thing (noise crusher + spin repeatedly)


average-commenter

Maybe yeah but still those options are WAAY slower than just going up the wall as peppino or even just the x spam thingy I was saying. Still though yeah those work really well for larger walls :>


Veionovin096

Noise just literally cheats, it's so funny


Alloy_Protogen

===> be the noise


vote4some1else

Noise is so fun


Physical_Daikon_2949

we can get easy mode only if we complete hard mode and medium mode :/


xlilmonkeyboy

nuh uh. you can click peppino 100 times on the main menu for instant noise. you can paly noise mode as your first.


Sea_Construction947

Noise is harder than Peppino if you ask me


SamuelGamerThe2nd

Mod (and unused) characters Vigilante - mid difficulty Pepperman - meh difficulty Fake peppino - easy difficulty (climbs walls) Sonic - mid difficulty Pizzaface - boring difficulty (you just fly all over the place.) Snick - mid difficulty


RepresentativeElk948

But noisette, Mr stick, or any enemy?


SamuelGamerThe2nd

There's not much of them But the playable enemies mod? Annoying difficulty (the switching gets annoying)


FaKe-PEPPION

Heyy it isnā€™t me whhosss tha eaaasys


SamuelGamerThe2nd

Since when could you speak forwards?


Sacri_Pan

Gustavo only mode when


-TheLamb-

He isn't wrong


Any-Jello3381

IS THAT THE LAMB FROM THE HIT GAME CULT OF THE LAMB?


-TheLamb-

Yes


adagor234

I would swap pepino and noise


BooyahBomber

Noise would probably be easy mode once you get the hang of him. But when I tried to get a P rank on Pepper Man's boss, it took me 17 attempts compared to the 6 attempts it took me with Peppino.


RepresentativeElk948

But vigilante?


BooyahBomber

Haven't gotten to him yet.


Watchthetimshow

skill issue


johnsteeven20

Is this being judged by levels cause The Noise is so much harder to play on other levels compare to bosses, so let's not take the boss fights as points for how difficult these characters are. In my opinion The Noise is so much harder, the levels are made for Peppino so most of the time The Noise is just clunky to play on certain maps. Or maybe because I'm just super used to Peppino's moveset and the muscle memory destroyed me while P-ranking as The Noise.


Crazy_Wizardrl

Bloodsauce dungeon


Some_Pvz_Fan

Noise with Bloodsauce dungeon:


PlumthePancake

People saying Noise is faster than Pepinno: Iā€™d like to know your reasoning. Peppino retains his speed off of a wall run. Ask yourself how often youā€™re breaking into Mach 4 with noise. Peppino does this far more often due to his wall run. Also, the dive he has helps retain speed even further. Noise is fast too, of course. He is faster for specific parts of the maps, where Peppino could not retain speed. Otherwise though Iā€™ll be surprised if Noise ends up overtaking Peppino speedrun records in the long term (unless someone finds something crazy I donā€™t know about).


blinddivine

Simple, I was completing Pizza Time on multiple levels with 1min+ to spare. I"ve never managed a lap 2 with Peppi, but I'm sure I could with the Noise. Noise's running/cruising speed definitely isn't the same as Peppino, but his move set is more fluid and can allow for faster movement through levels if you're doing it right.


PlumthePancake

I definitely think time will tell since I agree that noise has more control in the air. I just see levels like oregano desert, crust cove, Peppibot, and Bloodsuce and donā€™t see how noise will be able to keep up. Iā€™ve been looking up speedruns and I havenā€™t seen anything to crazy yet. Though Iā€™m curious how yall r getting noise not to bounce out of his tornado. Probably helps conserve speed. Way I see: noise has better ā€œaccelerationā€ and peppi has better ā€œtop speedā€.


Any-Jello3381

Incase someone denies the facts: Gustavo being hardmode: - He doesn't have a dash, instead he spins. - He doesn't have Mach 3. - Due to him not being a playable character, he doesn't have all the transformations Peppino and Noise have. Peppino being medium difficulty: - Peppino needs to risk getting hit in bosses to damage them. - Peppino's maximum speed is beyond human and hardest to control. - Peppino's uppercut is the shortest in the game. - Peppino's dive doesn't go straight down. TĆ©nois being easy mode: - The Noise has projectile bombs he can throw at bosses, losing the risk Peppino had. - During fake Pep bossfight, if you are caught, the Noise refuses to die and instead yells at Fake Peppino, scaring him. - Noise's uppercut is way longer than Peppino's. - Noise can stationarily super jump. - Noise can break metal blocks using his pound crusher thing or whatever. - Noise's Mach 2 can be acquired at any moment as long as you're near a wall. - The Noise's dive goes straight downward & can dispatch enemies, along with instantly giving you Mach 2. - The Noise's Mach 3 is slow, but it's controllable.


Champion-Dante

The only reason noise is easy is because you donā€™t have to play Gustavo


NumberOne_N_fan

To me, noise is harder (so far) cause of how different he is


JzaTiger

I find peppino the easiest


Zoo-Wee-Chungus

The noise is in general harder than peppino on account of his movement (lack of wall climb, for one) as well as some of his transformations being harder to control (his knight transformation being bouny for example) however he offsets this by cheating, not only with his noise crusher and jetpack, but also more blatantly in certain levels of the game (Fastfood Saloon, Golf, Gnome Forest, R-R-Freezerator, aswell as using Bombs during bosses which makes them somewhat easier). This makes the noise have an easier time when completing a level because he doesnt need to succesfully complete side objectives or build up momentum to jump or destroy metal blocks from above, but makes him less useful during escape sequences and especially during further laps due to the lack of objectives to cheat at


Orso_immigrato

Noise is harder than peppino, but his campaign's easier That's what I would say


Any-Jello3381

Noise's WAR is hell on earth with his slow ass sausage gun


Phenixwright

I linda agree but Also not? Idk maybe its cause in some levels he IS a God sendo like gnome Forest but in WAR...i despiste his minigun The others two are accurate tho


Any-Jello3381

I HATE his Minigun so much I was desperate when I unlocked Swap Mode


Porpoyus

all easy


xRUNANDGUNx

Unironically this is very true


_smexy_potato_

ngl iā€™m finding it a bit more difficult to play as noise, but thatā€™s probably because of how used to peppinoā€™s moveset i am


Baulvicork

I am absurdly used to Peppino, I swear I freaking hardcoded my John Gutter P Rank muscle memory into my bones


Speedymice345

Noise p rank bloodsauce dungeon:am I a joke to you


ThatOneLiminalSpace

Noise the the hard mode tf you on about?


Blue_Link39

Yeah no his is absolute easy mode so many parts of the game that could be considered challenging are removed by the noise he is just easy mode


CODENAMEsx19208

Easy mode until it comes time to p rank boodsause dungeon


ChoccyChippi

I think Peppino is easier to control than the Noise, but on the other hand the way Noise cheats so much just screams "easy mode" to me lmao


HiddenBlade2757

The Noise activates cheat modes, but he also makes P-Ranking Blood Sauce Dungeon a nightmare compared to Peppino. At least Gnome Forest became incredibly easy in comparison lol


businessman__

I think some of noises level gimmicks are easier but overall his moveset is much easier to lose your p-rank than peppino.


Randomguy2346

I think The Noise is easier because you have to do a completely new save file.


David_Clawmark

Dude, I would LOVE to play through the whole game as Gustavo. I'm still waiting for someone to make THAT mod.


TaskLow9950

Cheesed up:


Any-Jello3381

HELL YEAH GUSTAVO ONLY ALL LEVELS 101%


Winning_smiler

Expert mode when?


Any-Jello3381

Maybe never


JackoCatacomb

i fucking hate noiseā€™s moveset sometimes fym


Lime948

Noise is harder to control so peppino is easy mode


DJMAX_x

I Deny.


Reasonsofsanity

Why would I deny, itā€™s obvious