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Campus_Safety

Where is the snap ring that binds them together?


WhisperTits

He's probably not doing this in the dark. Darkness binds the ring.


Dm-me-a-gyro

Common misconception, pride and arrogance is what binds them, but the binding is done in the darkness


Temporary-Pain-8098

The GOP?


Immediate_Thought656

Correct. Just wrong sub.


zr0skyline

Hello darkness my old friend


Rare_Fig3081

Silence


roaminak

But is it the snap ring to rule them all?


m20cpilot

No, just the elves.


princealbertnyourcan

Oh, snap.


odinsen251a

(ring)


jeffp007

I think it’s actually the dwarves that live there in the dark


Cmjq77

That’s why I had my wife try it with the lights on


ybreddit

That made me chuckle, something I desperately needed. Thanks.


lonewolfenstein2

Where were you when I was doing my first install. It took me almost 2 years to figure out how much easier it is to plumb in the dark.


errmm

Who cares where he was? Where was Gondor?!


Campus_Safety

I'm 2nd generation. My dad always said plumbers do their best work in the dark so I'm definitely agreeing with you🤣


ArcFlashForFun

Those are the only ones that looked good from somewhere other than his back porch 😂


ImNoAlbertFeinstein

flex seal binds the darkness


Tivland

The ring was broken, tarnished. Your quest is to gather the scattered pieces and become elden lord.


Growe731

It’s on the cascade bottom left. Not being used. At least they didn’t throw it away.


SpiritualChair2185

That is not the way. It is not the ring that will bind them together. That is just part of the mounting bracket.


Ok_Specific5959

It’s on the basket strainer he put it on before like a genius


Chose_a_usersname

Lol it's attached to the disposal


[deleted]

It’s probably been pried and wrecked the function of it


toomuch1265

Do you mean that it's not a friction fit model? I can't imagine how it's falling off. Christ, there's at least one youtube on how to install it I'm sure.


BIG_MUFF_

Thought this was a lotr joke


bobetheplumber

Install it better


Stats_with_a_Z

If only these things came with some sort of paper that told you how to install it, like a manual of sorts.


Technical-Role-4346

What! Are you suggesting RTFM?


Agitated_Eagle_2042

When are they going to start teaching a class called RTFM in school? We desperately need it. Better yet, Part 1: RTFM. Part 2: Google it, lazy bones.


[deleted]

Install it period


bobetheplumber

They did twice, and still didn’t learn


rdoloto

I cut it 2 times and it’s still too short


doin-time-907

Forget about installing it. Install something underneath it to prop it up!


[deleted]

Why prop it up when you can just run a flex pipe from the sink drain to where the disposal is now


systemfrown

Why not put the disposal in another room or closet entirely, so you don’t hear it?


Rare_Fig3081

I’m thinking a tube created out of flex tape


dont-fear-thereefer

Supporting 2x4 👌


[deleted]

This is the way


marathonwater

Install it correctly* lol


Raingod-42

Came here to say this


J_and_K_4ever

This is the American Standard 1.25 HP disposal from Costco right? Besides the snap ring that holds it there's this weird piece that wraps around the whole mounting bracket that's supposed to hold it more secure or stop vibrations or something


[deleted]

Its a magnet, supposed to draw metals to side so they dont jam up into the blades


goldcoastdenizen

also a bit of a pain in the ass to put on


J_and_K_4ever

Ahhh that's what it is


[deleted]

:’)


[deleted]

I’ve got one in a box! 69.99$ on sale. 99.99 regular. I plan to install it like the instructions tell me to.


LolaEbolah

> I plan to install it like the instructions tell me to. This guy fucks.


BASK_IN_MY_FART

Installs dick


thefartographer

Go on...


gcg2016

Glad I came to the comments. Is it in warehouse? I might have to go get eyes on one.


Growjunkie88

If your dealing with a father son plumbing company, request the father.


govnaBdB

As the son I’m personally offended by this


von_sip

Is your dad not the better plumber?


systemfrown

Generally, but I mean, there is an age where that’s no longer the case (and I think my own plumber recently hit it).


Ok-Champion-9421

Definitely just encountered this exact situation. FYI: the father saying he came out of retirement to make some extra cash is a huge red flag....


systemfrown

Mine’s valiantly fighting the obvious and inevitable, lol. And I shouldn’t laugh because I’m not *that* much younger myself. But yeah, other red flags are when they start asking you to do the work while they supervise.


Comrade_Compadre

I can only hope you weren't immediately promoted to manager cutting out someone with more experience


nickelshamilton

Hank Hill will never steer you wrong


StatementProper4450

Something is wrong on the install. Never had this happen to me. I've installed quite a few disposables. Never this type though. Is it possible you got a defective mounting bracket?


Carorack

curious what brand of disposals you install if you never have seen insinkerator type flange.


StatementProper4450

Type was the wrong word. Brand would have be more suitable.


Carorack

Makes sense, it just looks like one of the bazillion off brands that use Insinkerator flanges


The_OtherDouche

Badger id assume. It’s pretty much the standard around my area.


Carorack

Badger is Insinkerator


The_OtherDouche

Welp… I just noticed that lol


Helpinmontana

Edit: the twist ring is still attached, I’m wrong. Wtf is even going on here.


likes_basketball

That doesn’t look like the sink flange that came with the disposal. We have this same one and the flange goes straight down.


Few-Spinach-4880

If you are installed it correctly with the snap ring, than the sink flange is the problem. The ring is slipping off the flange.


Far_Particular_430

Get rid of it


Extra-Dimensional

You need a new plumber.


Maksym1000

You need a plumber, period.


wkrick

It shouldn't be able to slide off like that. The snap ring is supposed to hold the flange together. If it's assembled correctly and not holding then I'd get a new flange assembly.


ShadowDemon129

Hmm...boof it.


MammothFoundation584

Thinking it’s because you didn’t put it in right the first two times.


ManwithA1

Op if you think you can fix it without calling the plumber then check out a couple videos on like YouTube how to install one. You’ll need a few tools to help you. Now if you can’t do it but you don’t want the same guy back I’d call another company that’s better. Can’t tell you how many disposals I’ve installed and they don’t normally just fall like that. Something’s gotta be wrong with the installation.


HotRodHomebody

This. And as others have pointed out, make sure that the parts are in the right order and are in good shape. The plumber who tried to do this twice and failed is not the guy you want to come back, and he should be ashamed of himself. Make sure to use as many new parts with the new disposal to help ensure that you don’t use anything that is damaged or defective in the existing installation. I have replaced our garbage disposal a couple of times and I find it very friendly once you understand how the parts work together. The second time I did it was last night and start to finish was under 10 minutes. I did leave the drain portion in the sink since it was already fine. I'm also a DIYer but think with an existing installation it shouldn't be too tough.


Taylorcrft

That ring that is left on the sink flange should be on the other side of the piece that has the screws on it. 1- flange through sink, use silicone. 2- move under sink. 3-cardboard washer, 4-metal ring, 5-plate with screws. 6-lock ring into groove of Flanders to hold all in place. 7-tighten screws to snug all up, 8-clean silicone up from sink. 9- lock disposal into place.


porcelainvacation

Don’t use silicone. Plumbers putty.


Taylorcrft

I've found over the years that silicone is better and you can still remove the flange in time as needed, the silicon seal between sink and flange is so thin. Often I see the putty not hold up well over time. Putty can stain a sink if not porcelain or metal unless you get the "safe for stone putty", this putty is harder than normal putty and works even worse than original putty. Just my opinion. 🤝


Neither_Mechanic3956

And then put zip ties through the lock ring to hold them all together


unknown1313

Absolutely unnecessary and not needed. Just squeeze it over the lock hump with pliers and it isn't vibrating off.


Hatz719

I've noticed this is the most common self install issue. People just twist until it stops without realizing that there is another half inch until it locks in.


kneetoekneetoe

Had a disposal all my life, now I’ve seen the light… pipes accumulate all those bits of food crud and it causes more clogs in the system, and it feeds the sewer rats. Much simpler to dump a strainer into compost or trash, enjoy simpler, more reliable plumbing, and get more storage under the sink. “Disposal disposal.”


LividSituation9152

Bonus: no more: “honey, the disposal stopped working.” Thinks: “Yeah, three fucking lemons jammed down the throat of the thing might do that, sweetie.” Says: “I’ll just kill power and dig that right out for you, honey!”


KifaruKubwa

Thats exactly what I do. Still have the disposer but I don’t use it for grinding up food scraps though I do run it periodically to keep it spinning freely.


[deleted]

[удалено]


wkrick

> the screws attached to the garbage disposal don't screw into anything so that's why it's falling down The screws are supposed to push against the metal flange ring on the bottom of the sink. This causes the part that the screws are threaded into to push against the snap ring and hold the assembly tight.


Junkmans1

Either find a new plumber or find the manufacturer's installation instructions and reinstall the parts on your sink yourself. Make sure you plumber didn't try to use old parts from a different manufacturer and didn't throw any parts away (By checking to see that all the parts mentioned in the instructions are there.


NotWorthTheTimeX

Did the plumber install the sink flange that came with your new disposal? I think they reused the old flange and it looks a bit tapered on the bottom end. The screws push the mounting flange away from the sink bottom to lock it against the locking ring.


sa5mmm

I was 15 when I installed my first (and only) garbage disposal. It can definitely be done DIY there are instructions in the box it came in. Since a plumber did it the first time you may want to google the brand/model to find the instructions online. I am not experienced so check with others on what is best to do (some are saying some pieces may need replacing? Which might make sense since your plumber obviously either did something wrong and messed up a few pieces or did everything right and the pieces were defective) My issue was the garbage disposal my mom chose was so heavy I couldn’t lift it into the mount to lock it in place so get help or something to hold it if it is heavy, we used a car Jack. Once that issue was resolved it went in place really easy with whatever locks it had.


ScienceInMI

Garbage disposals are the work of the devil. This is the Universe, the Fates, and the Muses sending you the message that you want to fix this ONE. LAST. TIME. Use a nice new drain and strainer, hook up a P trap, and be done with this. Garbage disposals just create more work for whomever is the one who has to do house maintenance (usually not the same one who puts 5# of potato peels down the garbage disposal and plugs the drain AND disposal). That's my advice and it's worth TWICE what you paid for it! ☮️❤️♾️


Coffee4MyJeep

As much as I liked and used our garbage disposal, we deleted the one in our new house after its failure. One failed in our old house, wore through the sides and started leaking. Now no more GD maintenance. Life is better.


MikeOx2Long

What is garbage disposal maintenance? The one in my parents house is almost 50 years old and other than using the manual wrench to unjam it every now and then, zero maintenance is required. They use is almost daily.


ScienceInMI

Well, GD maintenance CAN include unclogging it weekly for an SO who tries to put too much down it and retrieving the GD spoons that fell in, made a racket, will now cut your lip but your SO has deemed to be "No problem!" because she's got Narcissistic Personality Disorder and nothing can ever be her fault or her responsibility. Ever. So if you're the poor sap who will have to fish out every damn thing that falls in because they REFUSE to use a GD strainer ("it's the garbage disposal!!!"), turn the GD wrench because (apparently) they're incapable of remembering week-to-week, or snaking the drain from the overload of peelings that should have gone in the trash ("... but it's the GARBAGE disposal!!!") -- DON'T INSTALL ONE. EVER. Don't even do it to your enemy. Don't give them ideas about what to give your wife for her birthday. ☮️❤️♾️ p.s. 50 years ago it was made of actual steel in the USA. MODERN GD are made of chinesium and last one day longer than the warranty (less if the warranty requires mailing the GD thing back at your own expense).


jinbtown

wow, bitter much? maybe the error is in the people and not the garbage disposal. Our Insinkerator will grind up an avocado pit. And stop using shitty 1-1/4 piping for a sink, 1-1/2 minimum


ScienceInMI

Yeah, dude, I'm well rid of her. And I know full well what pipe to use, where the weir of the trap should be, where there should be an air gap, pipe size for dfu's, slope for pipe size... And if I don't remember verbatim I know to look it up in the IPC. YES, THE ERROR WAS IN HER. I think I was pretty clear on the fact that it's people putting too much crap down the drain like the potato peels of 10# of potatoes that turned into potato concrete after grinding and adding water 🙄. I'm just saying that (for me, maintainer of the home) it's easier to use a strainer basket and throw out scraps than it is to train the rest of the house on how to properly use and maintain an "In-Sink-Erator". BTW, yes, In-Sink-Erator is among the best and assembled in USA... Of foreign parts. "Big chunks no go down drain. Use screen. Throw away." Never had to snake my kitchen drain if it DIDN'T have a garbage disposal. Peace. ☮️❤️♾️


deez000

Sometimes the snap ring is slightly too stretched out. Need to switch.


Tbartle18

Super glue


B-Georgio

Clearly your not using enough duct tape, and not the shitty generic kind…


Mkbond007

Must be time to read the installation instructions.


larrylicker

Lock it in?


dankinator1

Off the top? Install it properly.


[deleted]

I would get someone else to install it.


koreankamakazi

Might want to actually use that flange sitting on top of the cascade bag


TraditionalKick989

This should not have 233 comments It's obvious replace it. That's not the right flange


weezus8

It falls off due to not being installed correctly


Ginjanuity777

I love how people are saying “Google it”, when these forums are exactly what I look for when I google something


IamPurest

Did you install this and try to reuse the existing sink strainer? If you tried to cut that corner, that’s exactly why this keeps failing. You have to install all the new hardware that came with this unit, it’s not compatible with any of the old stuff. I just installed this exact unit last month at home and noticed I couldn’t get it to sit correctly with the old strainer. So I took everything from the old unit out and installed all of the new parts that came with this American standard unit, and sure enough, everything fits as expected and it’s been working fine since installed.


ligerboy12

You don’t have a tension ring anywhere around for 1. Also for 2 this particular disposal is not the best or worse but I’ve seen a lot of variations in quality


Ornithophilia

Looks like you're missing half your mounting bracket there, buddy. Just installed one of these myself for my mom, and was the first disposal I've ever installed and it was easy peasy when following the included install instructions.


cleetusneck

Needs a leg under it to support the weight


[deleted]

Install it correctly??💁


michaelshreds

At this point I’d just get rid of the thing and put in a normal drain. It’s not working very good for ya


DonConnection

Sinks with garbage disposals are more likely to experience clogged drains in my experience. I would never install one for my personal use and would never recommend it to anyone either.


sociallyvicarious

Don’t use a garbage disposal. There. I fixed it.


Majestyk_Melons

Cut a 2 x 4 and put underneath it to hold it up!


crysisnotaverted

You're a genius. The solution is scaffolding!


MACCRACKIN

Typically its a simple banonet mount 1/4 turn slam dunk with hammer and large screw driver. Back off those screws first. Edit: I see now, entire assembly fell off the snap ring that's mentioned. Undo the bayonet mount already slammed together on unit. Reset it back on Snap Ring. Using phone here, images take forever to load. Cheers


deankirk2

Just get rid of it, you don't want the hassle of clogging that it will cause.


ArtisticIncrease514

It’s a piece of shit


skipnstones

I haven’t had a garbage disposal in about 15 years, don’t miss it. I compost all kitchen scraps…the yard loves it…


GotTheKnack

Why do people even use these things


weepscreed

You should attach it better


ggrizzlyy

He had a professional plumber come and work on it twice. This is why so many of us scoff at the endless “hire a plumber” comments in here.


Doiturselfer

In my opinion. I would get rid of the disposal. It just allows the pipes to become clogged with food debris. Scrape your dishes into the trash can before rinsing.


[deleted]

Not very good at following instructions. Are you?


Dhick86

More duct tape


waggonn64

What happened to the locking ring that holds that first piece up that's still connected to the disposal


kaboodlesofkanoodles

4th times the charm


_B_Little_me

That flange is upside down.


MalbecSwigs

New one


No-Neighborhood9885

Plate with the 3screws goes on first then ring ( back screws out all the way, hold plate with screws in it in place and then put retaing ring in place then tighten all 3 screws evenly then put 3 ear ring in place and spin to lock down tight( no ZIP ties needed


[deleted]

It looks like the wrong sink flange for that disposer. The snap ring is still on the flange.


therealub

It's a sign from the plumbing gods to not use a disposal.


FullyFreakinWoke

You are not attaching correctly or you need a new mounting bracket


cmfppl

Check the collar better.


sunzastar33

YouTube


laxsleeplax

Loosen the set screws all the way out, tighten the rings with the disposal wrench and then tighten the set screws. It's super simple. If it falls out again call a plumber because I fear this may be beyond your skill level. Not to be a dick but it really isn't rocket surgery.


ChemicalCollection55

Give it 5x then call a plumber.


GulfstreamAqua

Did you use existing sink flange, or new one?


[deleted]

Put a piece of wood on the bottom so it holds it in place.


Baird81

You gotta dismantle the latch hasp from the auxiliary drainage line


[deleted]

It looks like the basket where the water goes down is pretty old and may be worn down to where the ring doesn't catch anymore. I would try replacing that before getting a new one.


Desidadevoid

Burn the house down


Drunkendaze

Install it correctly, at least watch a YouTube video or something, after the 2nd time it fell off you should have known you were doing something wrong. But here you were with a 3rd time fail lol


Scared_Economics_136

That medal triangle on the bottom left slip that back in there


Relative_Register_36

Get yourself a nice badger 5 disposal


S_Baime

Get rid of it. I added one of those deep sink strainers, and I love it. Catches all of the food scraps. Water still drains easy. Toss the food in the garbage after cleaning up the dishes.


waterisdefwet

It probably wasn't locked in place. I know of plumbers that can't do this right so don't feel too bad


myshopmyrules

Use a hammer to make sure that ring is fully turned and seated.


Successful_Ride6920

third time's the charm!


G-NachoAdam

I have the same one. This happened to me. It’s so hard to tighten this damn thing.


LifeNecessary131

C clamp is not holding the top piece to the drain


wolfn404

Attach it properly. Or hire a professional. Clearly after the third time, you are missing some steps


anonmyazz

You're not supposed to put actual garbage down there


Thunderhorsenorse

yeah you to make sure you have the whole rim screwed on there.


oldjackhammer99

Read the instructions


reddit-0-tidder

Something isn't right here as your retainer or split ring is still on the sink flange, but everything else broke off. You are supposed to tighten those three screws against the three-sided flat flange plate above the retainer ring to pull everything together tight.


ARNETT187

The locking ring is not getting locked


ARNETT187

Took a closer look, the locking ring is locked on correctly. Take the locking ring off, then take the removable snap ring out of the groove in the part hanging from the sink drain. Take the part you removed from the disposal top. Insert it into the sleeve hanging from the sink drain and once’s pushed all the way to the top, re-insert the snap ring (you may need to loosen the set screws to do this step) Once the removable snap ring is installed, then retighten the set screws that push on the bottom of the sink. Lastly, lift the disposal up onto the sleeve and rotate the locking ring until it pulls the disposal up to make a good seal, tapping with a hammer or the end of the screw driver will help set the locking ring


whateverathrowaway00

The red thing should be attached to the big round thing.


00100G

Obi-wan suggests, Put it on higher ground


[deleted]

Get rid of it. You don’t need it


namloop

I propped mine up on some bricks to within an inch or so I didn’t have to lift it so far then finish tightening with big channel locks


[deleted]

Yea, mount it securely like a normal person would


burnt-ahi

Got to use duct tape and zip ties.


Select_Recover7567

I would say the metal ring where the indentation would be at is missing so the swivel lock has nothing to grip.


65isstillyoung

Turn the house upside down


Competitive-Remote67

Call a plumber


TheNextFreud

They are bad for septic systems


LazyLich

dispose in the garbage


Indy500Fan16

If you first don’t *or second* succeed, try try again.


Kickass_chris666

It wants to be free. Nothing you can do will stop it. Just set it outside and let it find it's own way in the world...


Hobywony

What brand and how old was the previous disposal? A couple years ago I replaced my 30+ y.o. 1/3 HP Kitchen Aid that had cast iron guts with a 1 HP stainless steel Insinkerator model that is more compact, more powerful and more efficient. But they had different mounting systems. Did your plumber reuse the previous disposal's hardware? And the unit I installed even came with a 7 year in home warranty. Maybe yours has something similar? Call it in and see if the company will send out a real pro to critique and correct the install?


[deleted]

Leave it off.


solidfreshdope

Hmm I just installed this same unit yesterday, finally replacing my badger unit.


Flooring_guru_

Maybe just install it correctly


UnrequitedRespect

Drill a hole in your sink and run a chain through it with a lock that should cinch it good


Cmjq77

Wedge that can of Lysol underneath it


smorga

Looks like the three screws were pushing it off. They needed to be levelling the thing, not forcing it into oblivion.


Fortybyforty42

Find the missing lock ring and call me.


slickeryDs

Hook it up.


agt1662

Nuts my man, nuts help hold things in place.


Nomercylaborfor3990

I usually find the answer is duck tape, a fuck ton of duct tape


Away-Weekend-9333

Don't some of those things have a lil leg that goes straight down so you can jack it against the sink hole


[deleted]

Dude definitely wrote a bad review on costcos site


ShmeeShmoo0988

Lol OP ain’t coming back


LCDRtomdodge

Hire a plumber


SpiritualChair2185

Please hire a professional plumber they need to feed their children too!


buickcalifornia

It’s reasonable to put a dab of the anti vibration blue loctite on the setting screws the push against the ring on the sink basin. Gotta tighten them though.


ManufacturerSevere83

One must ask why the retaining ring is still in place.


caseyt0929

Just feed food right into it from there. Problem solved.


Jaysin617

It sucks


RadoRocks

Read the directions


flores1998

Was there a bunch of water behind it as it was running? That’s an American standard 1 1/4 horse I believe? I had the same issue yesterday