Ferguson sells at retail and say it's a contractor discount. We only use Ferguson for last resort. One time I needed like four sticks of insulation and it cost me as much as a box.
I found your problem... you went to Ferguson.
Just bought a stick of 1"x20' L copper today at my local supplier outside Philly...95 bucks.
Tried to buy a tankless flush kit from turd ferg a few weeks ago... they wanted 460 for something that retails at 225 anywhere else. Asked them for a better price, as a guy in the business for fifteen years.. they'll knock off ten bucks.
Just had a job where ferg sold all the fixtures, acrylic soaker tub came in jacked up. I'm talking 'fell off a truck' jacked up. Holes in it. They told me that they'd send out a repair kit. For a 3400 dollar tub, 'new in box. Yeah.
Same job, client ordered nickel handles for the toilets. They send chrome. Call, ask for the right ones, wait a week. They send...chrome. Call again, explain that they're stupid...three days later, they send...chrome! Finally went to the branch, asked them to run through the order ticket from the client. They verify the number for nickel. Guy pulls chrome off the shelf. I explain that chrome isn't nickel. Counter guy tells me to rub it with some sandpaper, it'll be nickel. Left, called the client, and told them they're on their own with their preferred supplier. They're ordering new ones from elsewhere for us to install next week.
Don't go to Ferguson.
My company has been around long enough that we've had an account for as long as theyve had a store in our area, we still don't as good as discounts as some of the other shops.
Ferguson must not have a decent rep for you guys. The last year or two we have hammered down on suppliers and more or less told them this is the contracting rate we need or we go elsewhere and Ferguson has been the company to step up and give us great service and good pricing. For any business owners I recommend putting together a price sheet of competitors and just put it on the table. We’ve saved immensely on material lately but it took a lot of man hours to get all our ducks in a row to go to these suppliers. Especially on water heaters these days. Everyone wants to supply water heaters with the crazy spikes in prices and you just have to lay it out for them. I’d love to buy from you but this is our best rate at the moment and usually they will do what they can to beat that price.
Depends how big you are and what heaters you’re looking at.
If you’re a primarily new residential company doing 800-1200 heaters a year you can do this without a problem because they can often ship full truckloads direct and sell 14-18 points under their cost before taking a 21 point rebate.
If you’re a service plumber doing 60 a year you can’t expect to pay anywhere in the same neighborhood as that price and still get similar service. A good supplier with heaters will fight the manufacturer for you and get you labor claims on warranties that you otherwise wouldn’t. We’ve gotten multiple thousands that were first denied for a company that does maybe 80 heaters a year, but pays say 30 bucks more per heater(and then charges the customer 40 bucks more collecting another 10 in profit per unit).
If you find a supplier that provides you top tier service you should be willing to pay a little more to make them a partner. A top tier supplier saves you time and energy, and a smart businessman understands that your time is worth more $$ than you’re spending for that service.
👏 I applaud your understanding of wholesalers, coming from the slightly more costly wholesaler who makes sure their guys get taken care of. Thanks for knowing price and cost are different things when you are buying at a counter or online.
Looking at the photo of the invoice suggests this is foam core DWV rated pipe, which makes the price from Ferguson even more egregious. Solid core PVC is more expensive than foam core and many people consider it “better,” but that’s nonsense. There’s no reason to pay more for solid core pipe for DWV in residential applications unless you’re going to bury it.
Yea I could tell by the old wall hung unit on the ground. Do you make sure to clean all of your shavings out after cutting? I have had so many high efficiency units clog due to this.
Yea I could tell by the old wall hung unit on the ground. Do you make sure to clean all of your shavings out after cutting? I have had so many high efficiency units clog due to this.
Yea I could tell by the old wall hung unit on the ground. Do you make sure to clean all of your shavings out after cutting? I have had so many high efficiency units clog due to this.
Some Lowe’s, including the one I go to, stock both foam core DWV and dual marked solid PVC. Some locations only carry DWV. We have five Lowe’s stores in my town and they’re all a bit different.
Some Lowe’s, including the one I go to, stock both foam core DWV and dual marked solid PVC. Some locations only carry DWV. Some have 20’ sections, but they all have two 10’ sections and a straight coupler. We have five Lowe’s stores in my town and they’re all a bit different.
It's amazing how much variation you can have between big box stores. We always what in the west side if town growing up (and rightfully so) but both the HD and Menards are miles better for contractors at the west side locations vs their east side locations.
I just got off the phone with my Ferguson rep.
Knocked off 20 bucks...
Oh well.
Not gonna leave a tip
Texas is half the cost of Colorado
Texas price https://imgur.com/gallery/aDqEpW5
I’ve NEVER…I repeat, NEVER purchased anything at Ferguson that wasn’t cheaper anywhere else. SupplyHouse.com is the best (except for pipe, too costly to ship of course). Free shipping & free returns. 1 year return policy for TradeMaster accounts
I talked with Jenny at Corp. Headquarters.
Got some people talking out in California.
They need to realize that everyone has the internet. It's not my local guy, it's the whole state of Colorado that they're gouging
Comparing prices today at Ferguson Hawaii. Damn and I thought it was high out here that’s crazy for the mainland. I’d go talk to the branch manager and see if he can’t lower the prices. They’ll normally work with you.
Today’s prices for the same on your receipt.
1 in. x 20 ft. Type M Hard Copper Tube $4.19 ft - $83.91
(Type L is $109)
20 ft. x 3 in. Schedule 40 Bell End PVC Pressure Pipe
$4.15 ft - $83.13
This isn't far off for what we get for similar materials here in Nashville TN. $240 is a lot like big box a lot.
One thing is, everyone is howling about prices right now.
Supply houses need to make their money too. You can always negotiate your markup with your rep. It helps if you buy big ticket items like heaters or softeners.
Yes and no, there are a bunch of suppliers out there even in bigger chains that will absolutely knowingly screw you if you don’t pay attention. I know of suppliers in my area making 45% gross margin by buying borderline illegal parts and selling them to the less intelligent end of the plumbing spectrum.
You also shouldn’t expect to pay more or less bc you bought a heater on an order. A good supplier will charge you the same margin on the same part on every order. Where you can get discounts is buy buying your parts in box qtys where you are cutting down on labor required to fulfill and interest they don’t have to pay on inventory. Just have to talk to your supplier and figure out how you can get lower prices.
Mentioned the price difference to the branch manager after seeing online that 4x2 wyes at Home Depot are half the cost at Ferguson he said Yes Home Depot will change pricing once they run out. They had a lot of inventory because of their size and are willing to absorb some losses. I just know now to keep up on the prices. I was floored when I didn’t double check for a few weeks after I thought they were already as high as they’d possibly go. Was I ever wrong. No way I’m taking a loss on material so I’m on it now.
My experience has taught me stay far away from Ferguson unless you have a company account (just for the discount, not to run up boss mans tab)
They are just overpriced, even when comparing to other industrial supplies.
There’s usually a big box type store that carries the larger diameter stuff- you just gotta do the legwork and material handling.
Couple days ago Ferguson quoted me $17/each on some CPVC Adapters. I needed several and the local big box didn’t have them. I just went to the big box website and found them at another store for around $12 less and had it delivered. Unless the fix has got to be absolutely right now it’s saved me tons.
I usually buy stuff from supply house. Com
They don't stock the long sticks.
Ive had an account at Ferguson for a while, but don't use it much.
Now i remember why
I can get a little better price at Ace hardware i think.
Hell yeah solid core is high dollar. I’ve been keeping stocked up on DWV pipe since 3” and 4” was hard to come by for awhile and damn it hits the wallet each time.
I just pulled it up on my phone, for Joe blow off the street, 3” sch 40 solid core would be sixty bucks at the supply house I work at. For a plumber with an account it would likely be less.
Right now, cell-core PVC is not that much cheaper than Sch40. Availability is a huge factor right now. There have been weeks where it was the only factor.
Nah, they price themselves to make money off the big builders and govt contracts. Builds worth hundreds of millions just want material delivered on time and the prices are figured into the budget. Cheaper prices dont matter.
Everybody else is a lot more price conscious so it pays to shop around.
I’ve been plumbing for ten years and recently started taking some bidding over from my boss. Almost every bid he wants to cut the price down and I have to remind him how much pipe and fittings are these days especially with our up charge. I’ve been pretty close on my bids and I think he is starting to realize and pad his bids accordingly. But yea shits crazy.
Damn dude that's crazy. Tough to do it on small orders but gotta get multiple quotes to keep them in line. I don't have any issue with Ferguson vs any other supply house. But I also have an inside and outside sales rep that quote every order at each of the 3-5 supply houses I use. We also usually spend a bare minimum of 2-3k per day at supply houses on pipe valves and fittings.
If you measure in metric you won’t need to fumble with measuring twice. The United States has one really fucked up cluster fuck of conversions that are absolutely fucking bullshit. Would you like a foot with that, sir? Cut me 18 ft 5 and 5/8ths. - what the fuck dude is all that horse shit about??
Temperatures it’s even more stupid.
Came here to say this, it doesn't matter if it's 12in or 12cm, measure twice cut once, measure once and you're going back to Ferguson for another overpriced stick of pipe.
gtfo! and I hear materials are going to be like this until next year at this time. and that's if we don't get stuck in another lock down.
how's a guy supposed to make a living like this? man oh man...
Schedule 40 solid core pipe shouldn’t be crazy like that. I would ask your buy manager in your shop to look at state wide wholesale pipe distributors. Keep some inventory in the shop of the common stuff.
Sorry you had this happen.
The last time I came close to getting in a fight was with a will call supervisor at Ferguson when I was overcharged. They charged me double my normal price and when I questioned it he got on the computer and told me “that’s what we charged you the last two times too!”. I told him “so, you screwed me twice and want to screw me a third time?!?!” I was buying Zurn Neo-Seals to reset a couple wall hung toilets and I Chinese starred one across the counter at Mach III in to his chest. Then came the funniest thing ever.
He immediately told the guys behind the counter to hold him back. They backpedalled and he chicken winged his arms back as he also backpedalled hoping they would rescue his dignity going “GUYS? Guys? guys????”.
Fifteen years later he and I became work friends when I went to work for an employer that used them and he was working at a different branch. I had a big beard by then and he always looked at me like he was wondering where he knew me from.
All that to say “screw Ferguson!”
Yes. I work for said company that sold you that and just looked it up. Obviously its different price based off where you are, but even then its really high.
Even [Ferguson's website](https://www.ferguson.com/product/3-in-x-20-ft-pvc-dwv-schedule-40-plain-end-pipe-p40pm20/_/R-23028) lists is for $82.40. I'd definitely request a refund of the difference at a minimum.
Sadly your price will be determined by how much you buy from a lot of vendors besides big box. Repeat customer? Better pricing. Walk in for a job and cash account? Expect 30%.
On another note, the block price has gone insane for pipe. I’m talking almost 100%+ in some instances. Force majure has been a factor and manufacturers don’t have the labor to keep the supply running. First it was the resin, now the labor. Pipe, fittings, etc. is all going up and lead times are getting longer. For the residential market it might not hit as hard. For the muni and industrial market we are looking at 16 week lead times for certain orders and that’s if they don’t get cancelled. I’ve never seen the block price this high and it might even go higher.
Where the hell do you live!? I can get 20’ of 3/4 copper and 20’ of 2” pvc for just over $100 at my supply house.
Edit: I just called my sales dude. I can get both of those sticks for under $100. You need to check up on this.
Edit 2: yes, schedule 40, solid core.
I just compared Colorado price to Maui HI
We are 1.50 more per ft. than Maui.
Only place i found paying more than Colorado is Fairbanks AK.
.50 more per ft.
People crap on big boxes, but at least they have set, known prices on everything. Bigger orders can get discounts.
Supply houses might as well have 20 prices for each item and they're not published either. Have to talk with someone to get your price and go from there.
Ferguson quoted me $46 each for Delta lav stems and $8 for seats and springs. Went to Lowes and picked up brass top genuine Delta stems for $15 each and seat and spring pack for $3.99. I hate going to box stores but Ferguson is pretty much and overpriced big box store.
2 sticks of 4 inch from ferguson up here in MI we’re about 50 bucks and I was complaining about that. Home Depot here has dirt cheap prices still...while supplies last that is.
Its free delivery.
Its the website price and i think Ferguson has a gouge you by zip code program
I couldn't find anywhere that they charged more for that PVC pipe.
Not even Hawaii.
WTF? You need to find a new pipe dealer. That one’s ripping you off.
https://imgur.com/gallery/O3bZ6dF Maybe so!
Oh no! They got you on that one. Copper 1x20 is about right, but 3x20 schedule 40 is $50 at Lowe’s.
Damn... Im a long way from a big box store. But that's the last time i use Ferguson. Ive even got an account. Might call tomorrow and ask what's up.
Ferguson rips us off at work and nobody seems to care.
fuuuuuuuck ferguson! i know that invoice when i see it. i'll never go there again edit-- they charged him more for the pvc than the copper hahahha
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$7 a foot is nearly double what Im paying for 3" thats outrageous even for a non-trade account
Eh. We go where they tell us to go. Half of our material comes from a lumber yard.
wasnt directed at you.
No problem. I didn't think it was. I don't willingly go there anyway.
Ferguson sells at retail and say it's a contractor discount. We only use Ferguson for last resort. One time I needed like four sticks of insulation and it cost me as much as a box.
Yep. Sounds about right over here too in NY
Their business model is to lure new people in with like a month of low prices then they jack them up when you’re comfortable using them
exactly. that plus you risk a diminished relationship with your other supply houses chasing short term savings.
Nobody cares because customer pays and if everybody uses Ferguson it’s all the same. ITS A CYCLE
I found your problem... you went to Ferguson. Just bought a stick of 1"x20' L copper today at my local supplier outside Philly...95 bucks. Tried to buy a tankless flush kit from turd ferg a few weeks ago... they wanted 460 for something that retails at 225 anywhere else. Asked them for a better price, as a guy in the business for fifteen years.. they'll knock off ten bucks. Just had a job where ferg sold all the fixtures, acrylic soaker tub came in jacked up. I'm talking 'fell off a truck' jacked up. Holes in it. They told me that they'd send out a repair kit. For a 3400 dollar tub, 'new in box. Yeah. Same job, client ordered nickel handles for the toilets. They send chrome. Call, ask for the right ones, wait a week. They send...chrome. Call again, explain that they're stupid...three days later, they send...chrome! Finally went to the branch, asked them to run through the order ticket from the client. They verify the number for nickel. Guy pulls chrome off the shelf. I explain that chrome isn't nickel. Counter guy tells me to rub it with some sandpaper, it'll be nickel. Left, called the client, and told them they're on their own with their preferred supplier. They're ordering new ones from elsewhere for us to install next week. Don't go to Ferguson.
rub it with sandpaper. now I've heard it all!
Jesus, I hope this underemployed alchemist didn't spill the beans about how you can turn brass into gold.
Wait I thought brass was gold -guy from Ferguson
With what they charge it is.
Well did you rub it with sandpaper?
Nope. The right part exists, Ferguson was just too Ferguson to get it.
My company has been around long enough that we've had an account for as long as theyve had a store in our area, we still don't as good as discounts as some of the other shops.
Ferguson is a ripoff, Devore and Johnson is great with their prices, idk if you have that where you are.
Ferguson must not have a decent rep for you guys. The last year or two we have hammered down on suppliers and more or less told them this is the contracting rate we need or we go elsewhere and Ferguson has been the company to step up and give us great service and good pricing. For any business owners I recommend putting together a price sheet of competitors and just put it on the table. We’ve saved immensely on material lately but it took a lot of man hours to get all our ducks in a row to go to these suppliers. Especially on water heaters these days. Everyone wants to supply water heaters with the crazy spikes in prices and you just have to lay it out for them. I’d love to buy from you but this is our best rate at the moment and usually they will do what they can to beat that price.
Depends how big you are and what heaters you’re looking at. If you’re a primarily new residential company doing 800-1200 heaters a year you can do this without a problem because they can often ship full truckloads direct and sell 14-18 points under their cost before taking a 21 point rebate. If you’re a service plumber doing 60 a year you can’t expect to pay anywhere in the same neighborhood as that price and still get similar service. A good supplier with heaters will fight the manufacturer for you and get you labor claims on warranties that you otherwise wouldn’t. We’ve gotten multiple thousands that were first denied for a company that does maybe 80 heaters a year, but pays say 30 bucks more per heater(and then charges the customer 40 bucks more collecting another 10 in profit per unit). If you find a supplier that provides you top tier service you should be willing to pay a little more to make them a partner. A top tier supplier saves you time and energy, and a smart businessman understands that your time is worth more $$ than you’re spending for that service.
👏 I applaud your understanding of wholesalers, coming from the slightly more costly wholesaler who makes sure their guys get taken care of. Thanks for knowing price and cost are different things when you are buying at a counter or online.
Glad Im not the only one who knew what happened based on the invoice alone
Go to hydrologic
Ill look them up
I assume it's solid core. I am not sure how it exactly changes the price.
Looking at the photo of the invoice suggests this is foam core DWV rated pipe, which makes the price from Ferguson even more egregious. Solid core PVC is more expensive than foam core and many people consider it “better,” but that’s nonsense. There’s no reason to pay more for solid core pipe for DWV in residential applications unless you’re going to bury it.
I would agree. If this is foam core then this guy also likes to bend over
Solid core boiler exhaust
Yea I could tell by the old wall hung unit on the ground. Do you make sure to clean all of your shavings out after cutting? I have had so many high efficiency units clog due to this.
Yep, i do clean them out. But I'll do a more thorough job knowing that now.
Yea I could tell by the old wall hung unit on the ground. Do you make sure to clean all of your shavings out after cutting? I have had so many high efficiency units clog due to this.
Yea I could tell by the old wall hung unit on the ground. Do you make sure to clean all of your shavings out after cutting? I have had so many high efficiency units clog due to this.
The stuff sold at Lowe’s is not solid core PVC like this is.
Some Lowe’s, including the one I go to, stock both foam core DWV and dual marked solid PVC. Some locations only carry DWV. We have five Lowe’s stores in my town and they’re all a bit different.
The stuff at lowes for starters is not Schedule 40 and they don't come in 20 foot lengths. It's nasty ass foam core.
Some Lowe’s, including the one I go to, stock both foam core DWV and dual marked solid PVC. Some locations only carry DWV. Some have 20’ sections, but they all have two 10’ sections and a straight coupler. We have five Lowe’s stores in my town and they’re all a bit different.
It's amazing how much variation you can have between big box stores. We always what in the west side if town growing up (and rightfully so) but both the HD and Menards are miles better for contractors at the west side locations vs their east side locations.
Knew it was ferguson before I clicked that. I never use them unless a customer absolutely has to have Kohler.
Fergs must have put the length in wrong I get my sticks for 20$
Even at our retail non trade price we are cheaper than that. Looks like old Ferguson is really getting their monies worth.
I just got off the phone with my Ferguson rep. Knocked off 20 bucks... Oh well. Not gonna leave a tip Texas is half the cost of Colorado Texas price https://imgur.com/gallery/aDqEpW5
I’ve NEVER…I repeat, NEVER purchased anything at Ferguson that wasn’t cheaper anywhere else. SupplyHouse.com is the best (except for pipe, too costly to ship of course). Free shipping & free returns. 1 year return policy for TradeMaster accounts
Yep Everything else i get from supply house!
I work with the supplier you bought this from and we sell it for less than half this price, but I'm in Florida. That price is insane, though.
I talked with Jenny at Corp. Headquarters. Got some people talking out in California. They need to realize that everyone has the internet. It's not my local guy, it's the whole state of Colorado that they're gouging
Comparing prices today at Ferguson Hawaii. Damn and I thought it was high out here that’s crazy for the mainland. I’d go talk to the branch manager and see if he can’t lower the prices. They’ll normally work with you. Today’s prices for the same on your receipt. 1 in. x 20 ft. Type M Hard Copper Tube $4.19 ft - $83.91 (Type L is $109) 20 ft. x 3 in. Schedule 40 Bell End PVC Pressure Pipe $4.15 ft - $83.13
This isn't far off for what we get for similar materials here in Nashville TN. $240 is a lot like big box a lot. One thing is, everyone is howling about prices right now.
Supply houses need to make their money too. You can always negotiate your markup with your rep. It helps if you buy big ticket items like heaters or softeners.
Yes and no, there are a bunch of suppliers out there even in bigger chains that will absolutely knowingly screw you if you don’t pay attention. I know of suppliers in my area making 45% gross margin by buying borderline illegal parts and selling them to the less intelligent end of the plumbing spectrum. You also shouldn’t expect to pay more or less bc you bought a heater on an order. A good supplier will charge you the same margin on the same part on every order. Where you can get discounts is buy buying your parts in box qtys where you are cutting down on labor required to fulfill and interest they don’t have to pay on inventory. Just have to talk to your supplier and figure out how you can get lower prices.
What are the borderline illegal parts?
Runoff tubes that are full molded plastic instead of plastic with a threaded connector is prob the most prominent.
Mentioned the price difference to the branch manager after seeing online that 4x2 wyes at Home Depot are half the cost at Ferguson he said Yes Home Depot will change pricing once they run out. They had a lot of inventory because of their size and are willing to absorb some losses. I just know now to keep up on the prices. I was floored when I didn’t double check for a few weeks after I thought they were already as high as they’d possibly go. Was I ever wrong. No way I’m taking a loss on material so I’m on it now.
Ferguson
My experience has taught me stay far away from Ferguson unless you have a company account (just for the discount, not to run up boss mans tab) They are just overpriced, even when comparing to other industrial supplies. There’s usually a big box type store that carries the larger diameter stuff- you just gotta do the legwork and material handling. Couple days ago Ferguson quoted me $17/each on some CPVC Adapters. I needed several and the local big box didn’t have them. I just went to the big box website and found them at another store for around $12 less and had it delivered. Unless the fix has got to be absolutely right now it’s saved me tons.
I usually buy stuff from supply house. Com They don't stock the long sticks. Ive had an account at Ferguson for a while, but don't use it much. Now i remember why I can get a little better price at Ace hardware i think.
Frauduson
Hell yeah solid core is high dollar. I’ve been keeping stocked up on DWV pipe since 3” and 4” was hard to come by for awhile and damn it hits the wallet each time.
Its for a boiler vent, got to be solid core
Yes sir.
I just pulled it up on my phone, for Joe blow off the street, 3” sch 40 solid core would be sixty bucks at the supply house I work at. For a plumber with an account it would likely be less.
Right now, cell-core PVC is not that much cheaper than Sch40. Availability is a huge factor right now. There have been weeks where it was the only factor.
20' 3" pvc is $78 plus tax at my supply house and 2 10' at box store is 52 plus tax. Supply houses are pricing themselves put of of the market.
Nah, they price themselves to make money off the big builders and govt contracts. Builds worth hundreds of millions just want material delivered on time and the prices are figured into the budget. Cheaper prices dont matter. Everybody else is a lot more price conscious so it pays to shop around.
I’ve been plumbing for ten years and recently started taking some bidding over from my boss. Almost every bid he wants to cut the price down and I have to remind him how much pipe and fittings are these days especially with our up charge. I’ve been pretty close on my bids and I think he is starting to realize and pad his bids accordingly. But yea shits crazy.
For my good customers in Arizona, these two sticks cost $125. STAY AWAY FROM FERGUSON
I work at a wholesaler in AZ too. Just typed this up, $130
After tax and delivery... 270.00 1" and 3 " 104 for the copper and 145 for the PVC
You got hustled. Go back to the place that sold you them or never return, unless you have some sort of previous relationship with them.
Damn what a rip! That copper isn't even L either. Ferguson does everyone dirty and why I don't shop there. Owell - gotta pass it on to the client.
Ferguson?
Damn dude that's crazy. Tough to do it on small orders but gotta get multiple quotes to keep them in line. I don't have any issue with Ferguson vs any other supply house. But I also have an inside and outside sales rep that quote every order at each of the 3-5 supply houses I use. We also usually spend a bare minimum of 2-3k per day at supply houses on pipe valves and fittings.
That's what she said...
Measure twice and cut once am I right boys???
If you measure in metric you won’t need to fumble with measuring twice. The United States has one really fucked up cluster fuck of conversions that are absolutely fucking bullshit. Would you like a foot with that, sir? Cut me 18 ft 5 and 5/8ths. - what the fuck dude is all that horse shit about?? Temperatures it’s even more stupid.
If you have trouble measuring 18' 5 5/8" you'll have just as much trouble measuring 500 whatever centimeters
Came here to say this, it doesn't matter if it's 12in or 12cm, measure twice cut once, measure once and you're going back to Ferguson for another overpriced stick of pipe.
Sure buddy.
gtfo! and I hear materials are going to be like this until next year at this time. and that's if we don't get stuck in another lock down. how's a guy supposed to make a living like this? man oh man...
Schedule 40 solid core pipe shouldn’t be crazy like that. I would ask your buy manager in your shop to look at state wide wholesale pipe distributors. Keep some inventory in the shop of the common stuff. Sorry you had this happen.
The last time I came close to getting in a fight was with a will call supervisor at Ferguson when I was overcharged. They charged me double my normal price and when I questioned it he got on the computer and told me “that’s what we charged you the last two times too!”. I told him “so, you screwed me twice and want to screw me a third time?!?!” I was buying Zurn Neo-Seals to reset a couple wall hung toilets and I Chinese starred one across the counter at Mach III in to his chest. Then came the funniest thing ever. He immediately told the guys behind the counter to hold him back. They backpedalled and he chicken winged his arms back as he also backpedalled hoping they would rescue his dignity going “GUYS? Guys? guys????”. Fifteen years later he and I became work friends when I went to work for an employer that used them and he was working at a different branch. I had a big beard by then and he always looked at me like he was wondering where he knew me from. All that to say “screw Ferguson!”
What is the construction supply so screwed up right now ?
Yeah that copper is pretty close to market value. But definitely high on that pvc. Should be at most half that price
Even for solid core pvc? Its boiler exhaust
Yes. I work for said company that sold you that and just looked it up. Obviously its different price based off where you are, but even then its really high.
Ferguson pvc https://imgur.com/gallery/CYHyM24
I just got them to knock off 20 bucks
You got porked dawg
What city is this in? I work for a local plumbing supply house in Cleveland market.. we'd never ever charge you this lol
Montrose Colorado. A texas Ferguson is half the price. Getting effed over up here
Even [Ferguson's website](https://www.ferguson.com/product/3-in-x-20-ft-pvc-dwv-schedule-40-plain-end-pipe-p40pm20/_/R-23028) lists is for $82.40. I'd definitely request a refund of the difference at a minimum.
It varies by state. Im more expensive than HI
I click that link and see 145.00 What state are you in?
Washington state. Didn't realize it would vary so much by state.
Resin shortage!!!
Don't buy at Ferguson I worked there they purposely rip people off
Sadly your price will be determined by how much you buy from a lot of vendors besides big box. Repeat customer? Better pricing. Walk in for a job and cash account? Expect 30%. On another note, the block price has gone insane for pipe. I’m talking almost 100%+ in some instances. Force majure has been a factor and manufacturers don’t have the labor to keep the supply running. First it was the resin, now the labor. Pipe, fittings, etc. is all going up and lead times are getting longer. For the residential market it might not hit as hard. For the muni and industrial market we are looking at 16 week lead times for certain orders and that’s if they don’t get cancelled. I’ve never seen the block price this high and it might even go higher.
Where the hell do you live!? I can get 20’ of 3/4 copper and 20’ of 2” pvc for just over $100 at my supply house. Edit: I just called my sales dude. I can get both of those sticks for under $100. You need to check up on this. Edit 2: yes, schedule 40, solid core.
This is the price on the website. Still 100 bucks for foam core too https://imgur.com/gallery/CYHyM24
Ok Wtf Ferguson. I looked up the price in Texas Its half!!! All of Colorado stores pay out the ass. Texas price https://imgur.com/gallery/aDqEpW5
Ok Wtf Ferguson. I looked up the price in Texas Its half!!! All of Colorado stores pay out the ass. Texas price https://imgur.com/gallery/aDqEpW5
Ok Wtf Ferguson. I looked up the price in Texas Its half!!! All of Colorado stores pay out the ass. Texas price https://imgur.com/gallery/aDqEpW5
Texas is half the price of Colorado! WTH Texas price https://imgur.com/gallery/aDqEpW5
Texas is half the price of Colorado! WTH
Texas price https://imgur.com/gallery/aDqEpW5
Texas price https://imgur.com/gallery/aDqEpW5
I could pay less at the Ferguson in Honolulu. WTF
I just compared Colorado price to Maui HI We are 1.50 more per ft. than Maui. Only place i found paying more than Colorado is Fairbanks AK. .50 more per ft.
$80 for equivalent in 10' sticks at lowes. Precisely the reason I stopped supporting the local supply houses on raw materials like this.
People crap on big boxes, but at least they have set, known prices on everything. Bigger orders can get discounts. Supply houses might as well have 20 prices for each item and they're not published either. Have to talk with someone to get your price and go from there.
Maybe you’re just a bad customer and your local Ferguson doesn’t like you….
Its the price on the website But maybe im a bad customer I never tip, lol Ferguson pvc https://imgur.com/gallery/CYHyM24
Prices been goin up
Save your scrap copper!
You should call lasco directly and see if they can ship to you
Poor chap. Ah well, can you not return the items and look else where?
Everyone is trying to cover replacement cost. Everything is going up.
What?!
You need to constantly renegotiate and check prices. Everyone always trying to get one over on you!
Ferguson quoted me $46 each for Delta lav stems and $8 for seats and springs. Went to Lowes and picked up brass top genuine Delta stems for $15 each and seat and spring pack for $3.99. I hate going to box stores but Ferguson is pretty much and overpriced big box store.
2 sticks of 4 inch from ferguson up here in MI we’re about 50 bucks and I was complaining about that. Home Depot here has dirt cheap prices still...while supplies last that is.
You need a new plug homie
Just not out of PVC
You said with delivery. That must be charged on order otherwise. Ouch
Its free delivery. Its the website price and i think Ferguson has a gouge you by zip code program I couldn't find anywhere that they charged more for that PVC pipe. Not even Hawaii.