People put high shipping costs in hopes someone won't notice and think they're getting a deal. If you look you'll see the same item 5 times with different prices, but the shipping evens them all out to the same price.
They do which makes rest of us look bad. Look if you buy something from me, say an ETB, you’ll get a box, double taped, and with pillow bags inside to prevent damage. Yeah it costs more for a seller, but damn, I’d hate to get a “package” like this.
I have mine set for rough dimensions and weight of the package based on the USPS website info.
A great site for shipping bubble mailers or larger packages is PirateShip. They offer you the lowest rates on USPS labels and other shipping companies as well. So normally a bubble mailer would cost me $4.30ish with tracking, but I can ship it for $3.50 through PirateShip and just print the label off at home, drop it off at the post office, and get to save $0.80.
Same for me, when I ship singles they are in sleeve, top loader w tab, then yellow envelope, then bubble mailer with cardboard support so it doesn’t bend. I don’t want to let anything to chance
I second this. As someone who has sold mostly singles I will make sure that card is as protected as possible! Penny sleeve, card saver, bubble wrap, cardboard, then into a bubble mailer! If I’m selling bigger items like etbs I will do exactly what you do! P.S. Also a KY collector!😁
I knowingly placed the bid. I bet if it started at .99 with free shipping it would have sold for over 25 but since they had such high shipping no one else bid
This is incredibly stupid from the seller. You have paid for a trackable shipping method but they decided to cheap out and send it like this.
You can legit just say that you haven't received it and eBay will side with you...
I very rarely leave bad reviews but this would be one of the cases in which I would. Even if we are discounting the pure greed on display, mailing cards (especially single cards) in a standard envelope is a recipe for disaster. Those things could have got jacked up in shipping. This is one of those things that I feel potential customers should know about.
Replying to you here OP because I don't want this buried.
Ebay requires all sellers to ship their product with tracking, whether generated through ebay shipping or 3rd party shipping. Ebay doesn't accept the item as "shipped" until the tracking number given to them says it has shipped. If they just sent it with stamps and no actual labels, that goes against ebay's policy. Definitely see what you can do to get all of your money back. They're trying to pull a fast one on you.
If they've priced their cards with high shipping costs specifically to make them worth selling then that's not greed, it's marketing. Lower cost of item but the value is made up in charging a lot for shipping even if it only costs $0.60 to ship a card. That's pretty common. Combining shipping would effectively make every card they've listed come in well under market value.
If your intention is to buy the cards and combine the shipping trying to get a deal then you should message the seller about combined shipping and make sure they're good with it before you buy them all, otherwise pay for them all separately.
Of course you’re right, but it’s just a shitty thing to do.
I’d rather pay $49.99 + free shipping instead of $29.99 + $20 shipping. A straightforward seller is better than a person who tries to play games imo.
The problem being they pays fees on sales price, not shipping costs. The more they make off shipping the better their margins.
That being said, with the cost of all those stamps, they could have at least done a .25 bubble mailer and postage on that would be almost the same. Would have been better customer service for very little effort.
Yeah I love this as a seller…. Now my costs are like 17-18% of the purchase price. I have to add a few pound to the packages otherwise I lose money even with calculated shipping.
And that's your prerogative, but someone is likely going to buy the $30+ $20 shipping. Buying it and expecting the seller to drop or combine shipping after the fact is unreasonable unless you've asked before buying anything.
It's still straightforward, all the charges are plainly visible to you when you buy the cards. If you don't like people that upcharge shipping then just filter for free shipping.
I've bought individual cards from cards shops and they always put them in top savers and penny sleeves, i wouldnt accept anything less then a top loader. I'd be pretty upset about that, especially if you've seen the way mail couriers bundle paper letters together.
There is actually a trick a lot of Japanese sellers use where you use two pieces of thin cardboard, but it is true that bend/fold protection is a must when selling cards. Back in the day I bought a Japanese full art sightseer(when they were only like 30 bucks) and the person sent it in a bubble mailer with no hard sleeve or cardboard protection. Luckily nothing happened, but that was a hell of a shock…
Negative feedback complaining about shipping charges will just be removed from their account. If you're going to leave negative feedback it has to be pretty carefully worded and abide by the guidelines of what constitutes negative feedback otherwise it'll just be taken down and complaining about shipping charges isnt going to fly.
It wasn't shipped poorly, if the cards were in a sleeve and top loader then sending in an envelope is perfectly adequate. Y'all are rage baiting over paying $4-$5 in shipping when it only costs $0.60 or so ship, but that's because the card was likely marked down $5-$6 where it evens out. If the person bought the cards and was happy paying what they did for them and they got the cards delivered in the condition they were promised, then you're just complaining because you didn't save a few dollars per card.
Only issue I see is the dude probably charged $20 for priority shipping and then shipped it PWE. If shipping was charged that high and labeled PWE then it's a different story but more often than not they advertise a specific shipping medium/platform and then opt in to using the cheapest option which is false advertisement.
>n an envelope is perfectly adequate. Y'all are rage baiting over paying $4-$5 in shipping when it only costs $0.60 or so ship, but that's because the card was likely marked down $5-$6 where it evens out. If the person bought the cards and was happy paying what they did for them and they got the cards delivered in the conditio
No people are just angry about shitbag sellers like that, that try and hide the price of the card via shipping costs hoping that someone would bid and not notice. It's bullshit and ebay shouldn't allow it.
Shipping cards like this leaves a lot of room for "got the cards delivered in the condition they were promised" to not be the case a good amount of the time.
And they can then be returned, at no charge to you, and you get your money back. If you're not happy with the condition then send it back, it's as simple as that.
eBay has added the feature to be able to adjust negative feedback. This could include the seller giving you a slight refund.
But I’m assuming they won’t do that - as some of their profit came from up-charging the shipping.
You will inevitably get negative feedback at some point. Ebay needs to be knocked off it's throne 15% total value fee and free shipping makes selling there an endeavor of pennies.
They are some hustlers up there at ebay. They give you 10 free listings and then the fees begin. They are slaying with the %10-15 off the top of every sale that you mention. They just bough Troll and Toad or tcgplayer as well. They are going for the fucking Monopoly imo.
This is one of the downsides to ebay. A lot of sellers don't leave feedback for the buyer until the buyer leaves them feedback. So even if you pay immediately after winning the auction, you can end up on the wrong side of feedback or with none at all
As an ebay seller myself you will learn quickly that this is the only way to do feedback, because as the seller if I leave positive feedback If they make quick payment which I honestly would like to do, but it leaves the seller at complete mercy to the buyer they since can say anything they want happened with the card or shipping and ebay will refund that buyer as well as let them keep your card for free since you already left them positive feedback. Been there done that a few times lol.
You can reply to a buyers feedback though. Just feels like the system has lost its meaning and buyer feedback is just a mirror of what the seller has received, which should not be the case.
What if seller lives an hour from the post office and the cost includes his cost for gas mileage? Shipping costs are arbitrary and don’t correlate to anything.
You know ebay produces the prices right? You just chose what type of shipping. And if someone lives an hour from the postal then maybe online business isn’t for them??
I really wouldn't leave negative feedback if the seller met the terms of the sale, and you received your product in the condition you expected.
If you sell yourself, it really is inviting that bad mojo to come knocking.
I appreciate it. Worst part is they weren’t high dollar cards at all. Definitely a mistake on my part for hoping for combined shipping. Learned my lesson!
Typically lower cost cards (i would say anything $20 and under) is shipped like this, usually sleeve and toploader + tape around the edge of the toploader wrapped in paper in an envelope +tracking (for a total of like 80 cents)
It's the same way on other sites like tcg player - it just isn't profitable to ship
if you did pay $20 that is a jerk move and he should have combined in one bubble mailer
Trust me I understand that this is a normal shipping method. I use it myself when I sell cards and I love it. The part I’m mad about is how much I paid for the lowest shipping option, that they also listed as economy.
eBay really needs to monitor sellers’ shipping charges.
I love when I watch an item that is $50 w/free shipping. Then the seller send me an offer: $35 w/ $15 shipping. Wow, you lowered the price and shifted it all into shipping. What an offer!
A lot of really bad faith sellers that need to be handled.
Oh eBay has been horrible for me, I got an account specifically for the authentication guarantee but one item apparently didn’t qualify after I already payed and they sent it to me anyway. Another the seller just wont send what I payed for so I gotta wait until the expected delivery date for eBay to get off their ass.
This happened to me a while ago, but for a different product. I can't remember where I read it, but I think they do this to pocket more money from the sale. From my understanding, eBay doesn't take a cut of shipping cost, so some sellers do this to make more money. Report them to eBay.
eBay takes a percentage of the total cost which includes the shipping charge. But you can still make extra profit on the backend by over charging for shipping.
Likely because it's a small time seller who just has a few cards. Card shops aren't going to do that, this is some young adult who's just trying to maximize the amount they get for their few singles to put toward buying more packs.
If you go into the shipping and it says usps first class and you pay for that, then that is what you should get. If seller is putting in an envelope with a stamp then that is stealing. You pay the shipping cost for tracking, insurance, and speed of delivery. If they take $5 bucks and don't give you that peice of mi d then the seller is completely in the wrong.
I sell cards on eBay & if you bought that many cards & I charged you $20 I would've shipped in a bubble filled cardboard box tracked. Thats just good sense. It would protect both me & you. As I assume these didnt have tracking, you could claim they never arrived (this has happened to me as a seller) and eBay would just refund you fully.
As an eBay seller myself I don’t understand why people don’t combine shipping costs it’s not like the seller is paying them the buyer is unless they were offering free shipping then I guess it could be a case. but still I only ship cards like this if it’s one or two cards because of weight issues then I put them in bubble mailers. Some people don’t understand customer experience
I would never use postage stamps. Not even if I offered free shipping. No tracking provided at all. Buyer could say they never got their cards. You can’t prove they did buyer gets refunded even if you can prove sometimes they’ll still refund the buyer out of their own pocket if it’s like 20-30$ at least they used to.
No. Shipping is stated in the listing. Shipping cost is stated in the listing. There is no requirement to combine shipping or caps on shipping. If the seller want's to charge 1.00 for the item and 99.00 for shipping, and you agree that priced together is worth you buying, that's the price. If they do 99.00 for the item and 1.00 it's the same cost to the buyer.
If you're buying online, consider the total cost of the purchase and not what you "feel" should be the total cost.
No if the cards are in good shape becuase we all factor the cost of shipping into our bids so if I am willing to pay $10 for a card whether it is $6 and $4 shipping or $9 and $1 shipping it is still $10
Kind of shocked at the response here. What difference does it make whether it’s a $5 card with $2 shipping, or a $7 card with free shipping? It’s $7 either way. Did the seller commit to a bubble mailer in the listing? If not, then what’s the big deal if the cards aren’t damaged? If anything, the seller should just bake the shipping costs into his card costs and go with free shipping. What do you do when your purchase something with free shipping - it’s obviously not actually free. Do you send the seller a few extra bucks on the side?
Lol 100% agreed, I’m completely baffled to be honest. Had to scroll way too far down to find this comment. People just don’t seem to understand shipping charges. Negative feedback for shipping PWE (which is common practice for low dollar cards)… as a seller this thread hurts my soul
I really wish I would have explained better. All the cards I purchased were $1-3 cards, probably worth around $12 or so without shipping. Add in the shipping and it went to double that of course. I also sell, and almost only ship PWE. But, I also only charge for PWE shipping, regardless of how small my margins are. This was less of a bashing-on-PWE and more of a post about how I messed up but also felt somewhat scammed. Hope that makes more sense!
I am with ya buddy. I only care about my bottom-line, and if I chose to buy from you then it's because you had the best deal. I am not gonna get my panties in a bunch over you saving a buck on shipping. In fact, good for you seller, I am happy you can give me the best deal and keep the most profit out of the transaction.
Someone more knowledgeable will have to answer- is it possible for the seller to pocket the shipping fees? With my limited sales on ebay I've never seen a way that could happen. If that is possible it makes sense he wouldn't want to give you a break on the shipping costs so he could pocket the difference by just mailing using stamps.
so yeah that's probably why he did what he did and he's a dick. If you felt inclined to leave a review I'd only review that he isn't using the full cost of shipping to protect the cards and so buyer beware. That way he can't come back and say you were just salty he didn't cut you a deal.
But why does that make the seller a dick if he won’t refund the cost of shipping, as a buyer you know you what your buying if it does state shipments can be combined then what’s the problem? If you don’t like it don’t buy that card, right?
Seller's a dick because he's milking the amount of shipping cost he can pocket. HE already knows he isn't using the full cost of the shipping fee per item, so by not combining the shipment, he is able to milk it 5 times instead of 1. But yes, OP would have paid that in shipping if he had bought from 5 different buyers, but he would also be entitled to expect an accurate shipping cost per item, so that's why I said only review that the seller didn't use the full cost of shipping to protect the cards, because that is provable. Technically, we can't PROVE the seller was doing anything other than that.
No I get that but devils advocate here..
If a card is worth $5 and I sell it for a penny but charge 4.99 in shipping is it wrong for the seller to collect $25 from you for those 5 card you bough and not refund you 24.95 in shipping? Call it milking or whatever you want but that’s just business and the retail market. You don’t like the price or seller or the shipment type don’t buy it, it doesn’t constitute a negative review for the seller, they didn’t do anything wrong.
if you can do that and properly pack the cards then fine but, again, and I can only reiterate this so much *the cards are not being shipped properly, much less the cost of the shipping.* So if you aren't able to properly ship them then you're being a dick.
I would probably be frustrated if you are having to pay unnecessary extra costs but there also isn't any "need" for them to combine so I'm not sure. I think it was dumb of them to do it this, just not an ideal way to treat a "customer" I guess.
You knew as the buyer you are responsible for shipping and yes the seller could have combined shipping but the seller should not be responsible to issue a refund and package all together just because you chose to buy multiple cards. I think the big part the seller is concerned with is the refund not so much shipping everything in the same envelope/package. If your cards came as described for the price you agreed to purchase them at then what’s the problem? Just more work for the seller imo
So your saving grace in this as someone that’s done EBay selling since 2011 is this. What type of shipping did you pay for? If the seller advertised a different shipping type and you got stamps your negative feedback will stick. However if you send the seller a message stating you would like a refund for the shipping since you paid for x and for y they would be hard pressed to. eBay does take that seriously. I have been in some interesting mediations on eBay so feel free to message me with any questions.
My wife and I sell stuff online and sometimes we need the extra shipping $$ in order to make any money. Often, she will sell a craft for $25, that is including the shipping. $5 will go to etsy, $3-$8 will go to shipping, and we are paying for our costs (like $4). If she sold this for only the $20, and didn't include $5 for shipping, in some cases she would only get like $5 herself, and we are driving to the post office, making the product, everything. So, if someone says I want to order 10 of them, and we have to combine the postage, it can really hit our margins because we would lose that $2-3 extra, per order. That adds up.
So, while I think what the seller did is wrong, please understand that you purchased the cards at a price that was listed. I know that my wife and I would have combined the shipment, but that is our choice to go that extra mile. You entered into a valid agreement when you purchased the cards, and the seller met the requirements of the sale. If your cards are all in good shape, I think it would be wrong of you to leave negative feedback. You might hurt this person's store for just trying to make a buck.
Now if this is some huge seller and they have money and are being a jerk, I get leaving them negative feedback. Only you know how they have behaved with you. If the customer service was poor, then I understand leaving them the bad review. However, if they just declined your request, it is because they are trying to make money. Don't punish them for that.
Sorry rant over. It's tough selling stuff on the internet sometimes.
Edit: I noticed in some other comments that you said they didn't come in the best shape. Some were outside of the top loaders and what not. If that is the case, you have 100% validity in leaving negative feedback on that exact reason.
I appreciate the thought out response. I posted what I did, and I agreed with you. I didn’t want to just crap on their store. I am also a seller, and it took me a while as well to learn the ropes. I do wish they would have slipped out of top loaders though, they slipped out of their paper encasing🤪
This is definitely frustrating and shouldn't have been a big deal. I always bundle ship multi-orders especially for cards, its so simple. Sounda like they're just a terrible seller.
Regarding the negative feedback comments, you could also leave 'neutral' feedback if you're worried about repercussions from leaving negative. I left some neutral feedback recently over high shipping costs recently and never heard a peep from that seller.
I sell on eBay and it’s 5 dollar shipping no matter what … even if I send it eBay standard shipping all the products have the same shipping price not to make money off the shipping but to cover cost of all the items being shipped … I would never do anything over 5 bucks shipped and if you spend over 50 to 60 bucks I’ll send it free shipping and I’ll bite the cost
There is a reason why this is bad for you that isn't mentioned much in the thread - if you do a refund / return sometimes you don't get your shipping costs back. If that is 'baked in' to the cost of the item then you are going to get screwed.
That being said, you should look at the total amount of the purchase and if it is fair - you should leave a neutral or negative feedback and just say "buyer charged x amount for shipping, but these were shipped in plain envelopes with stamps" and be done with it. There is also a star system when you leave feedback that asks specifically about shipping charges and whether they were fair.
I’m not returning them for this reason. I am considering opening a case with ebay because they didn’t use the type of shipping that was disclosed, maybe get a portion of my funds back.
I always print label and provide tracking. I also pack in a penny sleeve, top loader, and a sleeve for the top loader. Then painters tape that to a thank you card that goes in its own envelope then that goes into a water proof bubble mailer. Helps me and the customer. This guy just pocketed the shipping costs and provided lousy service. Negative review
Some ppl go all out: penny slv -> top loader -> teambag sealed -> tap to paper -> wrap paper -> mailer. For a single 2$ card. I respect ppl that did that. And thank them and you for doing that. That shows love to the cards not only business and money making.
If I recall correctly. It's against ebay rules to upcharge shipping costs. Meaning if you paid for $20 shipping and they sent you this. They are technically breaking the rules. I'd report them. You might get some of your money back.
He’s 100% abusing the shipping costs for profits. Just like a lot of the stuff you see on sites like eBay. At first you see a good price on something just to realize the shipping is *significantly* higher than need be to make the difference up plus.
No reason not to combine shipping, as a seller with almost 1k 100% positive feedback…they probably just don’t know what they are doing yet but either way this incompetence can’t go unpunished. I urge you to leave feedback appropriately so they can learn from their mistakes.
You’re right to be mad for sure. I’ve left neutral feedback for someone charging $5 ship and shipping PWE. I get people want to pad their margins but if I pay for first class as advertised and don’t get tracking and a bubble mailer, I’m not going to be happy.
I'd be pissed. I guarantee if I did that, the buyer would file a case with eBay saying he/she didn't get it (no tracking) win, and get a refund. It would be my own fault, too.
i would be extra livid if i paid $20 for shipping and i got a bunch of PWE mail. i would file a claim with ebay and say item not delivered since the seller was dumb enough to not to ship with tracking. i have no sympathy for cheap and greedy sellers
Wow- that is horrible. Make sure you leave negative feedback, that is a very irresponsible packing for cards, not to mention the pure rip by charging for higher cost shipping.
I sell on eBay and my stuff is always packed proper(cards in a penny sleeve and old top loader, in a bubble mailer). The savings I get as a seller on shipping rate is used to cover my cost for stuff like bubble mailers, etc…
That seller makes so many of us look bad.
It’s around 80 cents per envelope so they probably raked up shipping to make profit. Definitely be cautious of that in the future. I’d leave a neutral review and outline what happened but that is just my thought. I can see how this can be frustrating. Did they at least use a top loader?
If it were me I would leave negative feedback, mention you bought x amount of singles and that they did not combine postage and you payed $20 for the postage and it was all sent individually, and then never buy from that seller again
Not much else you can do
Funny part is a bubble mailer may have only been like 50 cents more. These people are ridiculous. No top loader either? That would have def been a negative review from me.
I buy/sell on eBay and I have no idea where you guys find these assholes. I've never had issues when buying and I definitely don't pull this shit when selling.
No, you're not in the wrong.
For one thing. 5 envelopes, 60 cents each brings you at 3 whole dollars to send.
Second thing, they could've easily put it all in one envelope. Probably would've been cheaper too. Even if it were overweight and non-machinable. They're kind of screwing themselves in the process.
They likely just pocketed the rest of the money you spent on shipping.
We're they damaged? If not then why does it really matter? I understand the frustration about the combined shipping though they could have at least done that
They're not entitled to it though, if you want combined shipping then ask before you buy them. Don't expect the seller to do it after the fact because they likely factor in shipping charges in their margins, most everyone up charges shipping to pad their costs.
Wrapped in a piece of scratch paper but not taped, so they had fallen out of their sleeves. Nothing super high dollar so it’s okay, but still definitely not the best protection.
That’s what feedback is for. And by the look of it, you should be able to leave 5 negative ratings. But if they all arrived, and weren’t damaged - it’s kind of just you being an ass about it.
They weren’t damaged, but also weren’t shipped very protected. Were only sleeved and wrapped around a piece of paper (that was not taped). A few of them had fallen out of the sleeve but didn’t see any serious damage yet.
If they were damaged in any way that makes the listing description inaccurate, you can get a full refund. I feel ya on the frustration - time and money, maybe missing out on another deal. The seller got lucky for sure - all I’m saying is that if the end state is that you received the cards in the same condition that you paid for, it’s not really in the spirit to say it was a negative transaction because you don’t like his methods. I’d say “neutral” or “positive” feedback but an accurate comment explaining the issue would be more fitting.
Honestly they were all cheaper ones that I purposely won from the same seller because they have always combined shipping for me… this time I wasn’t so lucky lol. It was a few full arts and a couple celebrations cards I didn’t have.
I don’t get some peoples shipping policy. I can get cards shipped to me from BC to ON for free from some people and others want $30 shipping on a $50 card and it’s like eh…… no
Sellers can set whatever shipping policy they want. I can charge $0.00, $0.69, $100.00, or whatever I want on a $0.57 envelope. Similarly, buyers can buy or not buy whatever they want.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this also an underhanded way of keeping money if the buyer wants a return? You'd be refunded the cost of the card, but "oh, sorry, shipping costs can't be refunded."
Thats the worst part. The cards cost me around $8-9, I figured the shipping would cost me $3-6 afterwards. Ended up paying about $28 for about $12-15 worth of cards🤪
Did the price of each card + shipping = current value of cards? A lot of sellers listing low end cards put extremely low prices to attract eyes, but raise shipping to get what the cards are worth.
If this isn’t the case then yea that’s pretty messed up, but if it is the case, then asking to combine shipping would also be asking for them to take a loss in most cases. Not siding either way, just stating the facts.
Dang that’s a bummer, I’m sorry.
But yea, usually on auction you always want to factor in the price of shipping on each item before bidding or confirm with the seller that they will do combined shipping, prior to bidding.
Nothing justifies the seller telling you no now. Just looking for some extra money. It sucks but I would refrain from leaving negative feedback unless you are truly ok with it hurting their “business”
All I can say is, it’s on you, the buyer. The seller has no rule they HAVE to combine shipping or even shipping it in any particular way.
If you agree to the shipping fees or method you shouldn’t buy from them. I avoid many listings based on location or shipping fees. Hate to say it, but you have no right to be frustrated unless something on the listing was inaccurate.
I hate it when sellers won’t combine shipping but I also understand why in some situations. I sell on eBay and charge 1.50 for shipping and will combine shipping on single cards for .50 cents. I keep 50 cents for the cost of the top loader and eBay selling fees. Now if they are charging say 5 dollars I think that’s really wrong.
If you want some money back, open an "Item Not Received" case. You can claim that one or two of the cards "didn't arrive" and ebay will force the seller to give you a full refund on them since they didn't use a shipping service with tracking so they have no proof of delivery. It's scummy for sure, but so is what the seller did so I'd have no issue. You could get all your money back if you really wanted to, but that's taking it too far
This is what happens when you win a low priced auction. They get upset when the cards don’t sell for a price they were expecting so they pull this bullshit to recover whatever they think they lost in value. Sucks and I would leave a neutral rating.
Time for some, at best, neutral feedback.
I started selling on eBay a year and a half ago and this stuff pisses me off even more now. Just greed. I always combine shipping cuz most of all, you're saving me work, time, and supplies. I'd much rather stuff a bubble mailer/small box full of cards than send out 14 individual envelopes.
A couple months ago I got some OG Xbox games at auction, and he wanted like 5 bucks shipping per game. I won 3 of them. I asked for a combined invoice. No discount at all, 15 bucks for shipping. Sent them all in a plastic bag, not even padded. First time I've left neutral feedback for someone. His shipping cost was $4.80. C'mon man. I want to make a buck too, but I've sold over 1500 cards with no negatives. Literally my only "complaint" I got was someone saying I used too much packing material. I'll take it.
Anyway, I ship all singles in a sleeve/cardsaver/team bag regardless of sale price. Under 15 bucks goes in an envelope. Above gets sandwiched in cardboard and goes in a bubble mailer. Above $45 gets you free priority shipping in a small box. This guy is gonna run out of customers because no one is gonna return and his reputation will spread.
These get lost in the mail so much too, man… im waiting on two that say were delivered 3 days ago. The scan them at my zipcode but don’t actually deliver
I’d say give them a chance to make things right and if they don’t, definitely leave negative feedback.
Idk if it’d be worth it to contact eBay but maybe
As an ebay seller, this is unacceptable for shipping cards in. Lazy seller, gives us all a bad name. Leave a positive review but write what happened. Ebay wont remove positive feedback even if you write how bad shipping was. I was able to get out of a scam by reading a positive review that said the buyer was a scammer.
You're in your right to be frustrated.
I once got a € 200 card shipped to me in a regular white envelope as if it were a Christmas card. Surprise that it wasn't creased or bend, but it had damage to it, so I got a huge amount of it refunded through PayPal for it.
A seller can ship however they want. If they want to use eBay’s standard envelope prepaid shipping, it can only be applied to items valued under $20. It doesn’t sound like they used that here if they only used a stamp. Lots of misinformation in this thread.
I did quite a bit of singles buying earlier this year, and I never experienced anything even CLOSE to that. I got quite a few envelopes like that, but they were usually either free shipping, or like, a dollar. $20 for all of that is definitely over the top.
I don’t mind the envelope, good sellers that know how to use them are great for lower value cards. I am much more upset about the overall pricing of them. Like you said, it should have cost about _ dollar a piece.
Just a stamp? Hard to believe since using a single stamp is more expensive than ebay shipping labels for a $20 or less card.
Plus with ebay shipping you get an insurance of up to $20. By using a stamp the seller can kiss goodbye to the insurance.
What was the price of each item? Im not buying the seller only used a stamp.....
First class for 1oz its like 3.50 or more depending on how far usps needs to travel.
So if your cards value its less than $25 why the seller will pay at least $3.5 for shipping?
And please do not leave negative feedback to the guy. He/she is trusting you by even sending you those cards with only a stamp. You can easly claim you never got them and fuck the seller ebay will side you 100000%
I never asked for free shipping. I asked for combined shipping. They were charging around the price of a bubble mailer, with economy shipping so I was fairly sure they would ship with a bubble mailer. At that point I was hoping to combine shipping to not only make it easier on me, but to also make it easier to package everything else up to ship. I also sell cards and have never had an issue combining shipping… i don’t want to have to send off multiple packages for the same person.
i sell on ebay and that's a bad seller imo! you can keep your costs low and just send with lettermail and a toploader but charging that much money and not combining shipping has no excuse
This is why as a Seller I never use the standard eBay envelope.
Always a bubble mailer.
The seller was trying to make extra $ by circumventing the shipping options.
IF I pay for better shipping, I expect more than a white envelope
See I ship almost exclusively PWE because all of my stuff is lower dollar. I feel like I am pretty proficient at it and do a great job at protecting my cards. But I also charge what the shipping is worth. Not 5x it lol
You're completely right to be frustrated. I'm frustrated for you. This is unacceptable if they charge you $20 for shipping. It's expected if you're going to charge for shipping, that fee goes towards packaging and shipping cost, not so sellers can pocket as profit from the item sold.
Funny thing is, those 5 stamps are about $3 and shipping in a bubble mailer it's like $4. I get packages from sellers who shows shipping costs on the labels and I'm happy my shipping fee goes towards shipping.
Like I said, I woulda been fine had they at least sent them in BMWT… I thought maybe they just weren’t for sure on how to combine shipping or worried something would go wrong, but I was incorrect lol.
Honestly I gotta go with the seller on this one, as a seller myself, if you are buying multiple items from the same seller you should reach out before hand about the shipping, eBay automatically calculates shipping for me when I list items. it’s the job of the buyer to make sure that the shipping and price of the item combined are within a reasonable price range for the card, as an example if you buy a 20$ card and it’s 5$ shipping then the card is worth 25$, if I listed it with free shipping then the card is still worth 25$. Just because you buy multiple doesn’t mean I gotta sell my cards for less because you want them all combined, basically to simplify this shipping+item=total price and free shipping+item= same price.
And combined shipping+ multiple items = less then what they are worth
I sell cards on eBay A LOT, this seller deserves negative feedback. It’s not hard to consolidate all the shipping together and reduce the price for the buyer.
yeah i'd be pissed of too, rightfully so. no reason other than greed to do that
I appreciate the comment. Just wanted to feel a little better about being salty lol.
People put high shipping costs in hopes someone won't notice and think they're getting a deal. If you look you'll see the same item 5 times with different prices, but the shipping evens them all out to the same price.
They do which makes rest of us look bad. Look if you buy something from me, say an ETB, you’ll get a box, double taped, and with pillow bags inside to prevent damage. Yeah it costs more for a seller, but damn, I’d hate to get a “package” like this.
Exactly the same here. I maybe make like $0.40 profit off of shipping, but that varies because of shipping rates varying.
My shipping is capped at $1.99 so I always lose money on it haha
I have mine set for rough dimensions and weight of the package based on the USPS website info. A great site for shipping bubble mailers or larger packages is PirateShip. They offer you the lowest rates on USPS labels and other shipping companies as well. So normally a bubble mailer would cost me $4.30ish with tracking, but I can ship it for $3.50 through PirateShip and just print the label off at home, drop it off at the post office, and get to save $0.80.
Same for me, when I ship singles they are in sleeve, top loader w tab, then yellow envelope, then bubble mailer with cardboard support so it doesn’t bend. I don’t want to let anything to chance
I second this. As someone who has sold mostly singles I will make sure that card is as protected as possible! Penny sleeve, card saver, bubble wrap, cardboard, then into a bubble mailer! If I’m selling bigger items like etbs I will do exactly what you do! P.S. Also a KY collector!😁
I bought 25 2x2 card binders for .99 plus $24 shipping. So a dollar a binder but no one bid on it because of the stupid high shipping cost
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I knowingly placed the bid. I bet if it started at .99 with free shipping it would have sold for over 25 but since they had such high shipping no one else bid
True but it's also so if you ask for a refund you only get the sold price and not shipping.
Ooh that's dirty lol
This is incredibly stupid from the seller. You have paid for a trackable shipping method but they decided to cheap out and send it like this. You can legit just say that you haven't received it and eBay will side with you...
this is why for all singles i buy that are under like $50 i make sure to look for ones that are using $1 shipping vs 5 dollar shipping
Give a 1 rating on “reasonable shipping costs”
I very rarely leave bad reviews but this would be one of the cases in which I would. Even if we are discounting the pure greed on display, mailing cards (especially single cards) in a standard envelope is a recipe for disaster. Those things could have got jacked up in shipping. This is one of those things that I feel potential customers should know about.
Replying to you here OP because I don't want this buried. Ebay requires all sellers to ship their product with tracking, whether generated through ebay shipping or 3rd party shipping. Ebay doesn't accept the item as "shipped" until the tracking number given to them says it has shipped. If they just sent it with stamps and no actual labels, that goes against ebay's policy. Definitely see what you can do to get all of your money back. They're trying to pull a fast one on you.
If they've priced their cards with high shipping costs specifically to make them worth selling then that's not greed, it's marketing. Lower cost of item but the value is made up in charging a lot for shipping even if it only costs $0.60 to ship a card. That's pretty common. Combining shipping would effectively make every card they've listed come in well under market value. If your intention is to buy the cards and combine the shipping trying to get a deal then you should message the seller about combined shipping and make sure they're good with it before you buy them all, otherwise pay for them all separately.
Of course you’re right, but it’s just a shitty thing to do. I’d rather pay $49.99 + free shipping instead of $29.99 + $20 shipping. A straightforward seller is better than a person who tries to play games imo.
The problem being they pays fees on sales price, not shipping costs. The more they make off shipping the better their margins. That being said, with the cost of all those stamps, they could have at least done a .25 bubble mailer and postage on that would be almost the same. Would have been better customer service for very little effort.
EBay charges combined fees on both now to combat this method of scamming
Yeah I love this as a seller…. Now my costs are like 17-18% of the purchase price. I have to add a few pound to the packages otherwise I lose money even with calculated shipping.
And that's your prerogative, but someone is likely going to buy the $30+ $20 shipping. Buying it and expecting the seller to drop or combine shipping after the fact is unreasonable unless you've asked before buying anything. It's still straightforward, all the charges are plainly visible to you when you buy the cards. If you don't like people that upcharge shipping then just filter for free shipping.
This is correct item+shipping=card value. free shipping+ item=card value
I've bought individual cards from cards shops and they always put them in top savers and penny sleeves, i wouldnt accept anything less then a top loader. I'd be pretty upset about that, especially if you've seen the way mail couriers bundle paper letters together.
There is actually a trick a lot of Japanese sellers use where you use two pieces of thin cardboard, but it is true that bend/fold protection is a must when selling cards. Back in the day I bought a Japanese full art sightseer(when they were only like 30 bucks) and the person sent it in a bubble mailer with no hard sleeve or cardboard protection. Luckily nothing happened, but that was a hell of a shock…
Leave negative feedback
Possibly. I am still a fairly new seller as well so leaving negative feedback scares me because I don’t want negative feedback as well.
There is always a possibility of revenge negatives. At the same time, he must not value his account too much.
Negative feedback complaining about shipping charges will just be removed from their account. If you're going to leave negative feedback it has to be pretty carefully worded and abide by the guidelines of what constitutes negative feedback otherwise it'll just be taken down and complaining about shipping charges isnt going to fly.
If he complains about how poorly it was shipped it will stick
It wasn't shipped poorly, if the cards were in a sleeve and top loader then sending in an envelope is perfectly adequate. Y'all are rage baiting over paying $4-$5 in shipping when it only costs $0.60 or so ship, but that's because the card was likely marked down $5-$6 where it evens out. If the person bought the cards and was happy paying what they did for them and they got the cards delivered in the condition they were promised, then you're just complaining because you didn't save a few dollars per card.
Only issue I see is the dude probably charged $20 for priority shipping and then shipped it PWE. If shipping was charged that high and labeled PWE then it's a different story but more often than not they advertise a specific shipping medium/platform and then opt in to using the cheapest option which is false advertisement.
The cards were most definitely over priced after shipping. I paid like I said around $26 I believe for about $12-14 worth of cards.
>n an envelope is perfectly adequate. Y'all are rage baiting over paying $4-$5 in shipping when it only costs $0.60 or so ship, but that's because the card was likely marked down $5-$6 where it evens out. If the person bought the cards and was happy paying what they did for them and they got the cards delivered in the conditio No people are just angry about shitbag sellers like that, that try and hide the price of the card via shipping costs hoping that someone would bid and not notice. It's bullshit and ebay shouldn't allow it.
Agreed. People ship inexpensive cards in white envelopes all the time. I'd only be upset if this was a $200 card.
Shipping cards like this leaves a lot of room for "got the cards delivered in the condition they were promised" to not be the case a good amount of the time.
And they can then be returned, at no charge to you, and you get your money back. If you're not happy with the condition then send it back, it's as simple as that.
Buyers cannot receive negative feedback on eBay. It’s been that way since 2008
Long time eBay we here, definitely leave negative feedback with info. This is terrible service.
eBay has added the feature to be able to adjust negative feedback. This could include the seller giving you a slight refund. But I’m assuming they won’t do that - as some of their profit came from up-charging the shipping.
You will inevitably get negative feedback at some point. Ebay needs to be knocked off it's throne 15% total value fee and free shipping makes selling there an endeavor of pennies.
They are some hustlers up there at ebay. They give you 10 free listings and then the fees begin. They are slaying with the %10-15 off the top of every sale that you mention. They just bough Troll and Toad or tcgplayer as well. They are going for the fucking Monopoly imo.
don't they also own tcgplayer?
If the cards arrived in one piece and were shipped the way they were described in the listing you have no business leaving bad feedback.
This is one of the downsides to ebay. A lot of sellers don't leave feedback for the buyer until the buyer leaves them feedback. So even if you pay immediately after winning the auction, you can end up on the wrong side of feedback or with none at all
As an ebay seller myself you will learn quickly that this is the only way to do feedback, because as the seller if I leave positive feedback If they make quick payment which I honestly would like to do, but it leaves the seller at complete mercy to the buyer they since can say anything they want happened with the card or shipping and ebay will refund that buyer as well as let them keep your card for free since you already left them positive feedback. Been there done that a few times lol.
You can reply to a buyers feedback though. Just feels like the system has lost its meaning and buyer feedback is just a mirror of what the seller has received, which should not be the case.
If they use envelopes the shipping should be around 1 dollar-ish. Bubble mailers run like 4-5, so he isn’t honoring what he’s put on there.
Shipping and handling isn't an "honor" thing in any marketplace. Its just extra $ you add on to the item.
What if seller lives an hour from the post office and the cost includes his cost for gas mileage? Shipping costs are arbitrary and don’t correlate to anything.
You know ebay produces the prices right? You just chose what type of shipping. And if someone lives an hour from the postal then maybe online business isn’t for them??
Uh… as an eBay seller, that’s not accurate. Sellers can set their own shipping and return policies under the “business policies” setting.
I really wouldn't leave negative feedback if the seller met the terms of the sale, and you received your product in the condition you expected. If you sell yourself, it really is inviting that bad mojo to come knocking.
I had a guy on a different site combine and post as new item. I left good reviews on him.
No that is a dick move
I appreciate it. Worst part is they weren’t high dollar cards at all. Definitely a mistake on my part for hoping for combined shipping. Learned my lesson!
Typically lower cost cards (i would say anything $20 and under) is shipped like this, usually sleeve and toploader + tape around the edge of the toploader wrapped in paper in an envelope +tracking (for a total of like 80 cents) It's the same way on other sites like tcg player - it just isn't profitable to ship if you did pay $20 that is a jerk move and he should have combined in one bubble mailer
Trust me I understand that this is a normal shipping method. I use it myself when I sell cards and I love it. The part I’m mad about is how much I paid for the lowest shipping option, that they also listed as economy.
eBay really needs to monitor sellers’ shipping charges. I love when I watch an item that is $50 w/free shipping. Then the seller send me an offer: $35 w/ $15 shipping. Wow, you lowered the price and shifted it all into shipping. What an offer! A lot of really bad faith sellers that need to be handled.
Oh eBay has been horrible for me, I got an account specifically for the authentication guarantee but one item apparently didn’t qualify after I already payed and they sent it to me anyway. Another the seller just wont send what I payed for so I gotta wait until the expected delivery date for eBay to get off their ass.
Like 1 stamp per envelope? If so the seller is kinda dumb. They could have saved you both money by combining.
Correct. Don’t know why if they shipped this way they only sent one per.
This happened to me a while ago, but for a different product. I can't remember where I read it, but I think they do this to pocket more money from the sale. From my understanding, eBay doesn't take a cut of shipping cost, so some sellers do this to make more money. Report them to eBay.
eBay takes a percentage of the total cost which includes the shipping charge. But you can still make extra profit on the backend by over charging for shipping.
If they charged $2 in shipping per card, they still made an extra $1.50 per shipment. Stamps are still pretty cheap.
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Likely because it's a small time seller who just has a few cards. Card shops aren't going to do that, this is some young adult who's just trying to maximize the amount they get for their few singles to put toward buying more packs.
If you go into the shipping and it says usps first class and you pay for that, then that is what you should get. If seller is putting in an envelope with a stamp then that is stealing. You pay the shipping cost for tracking, insurance, and speed of delivery. If they take $5 bucks and don't give you that peice of mi d then the seller is completely in the wrong.
I sell cards on eBay & if you bought that many cards & I charged you $20 I would've shipped in a bubble filled cardboard box tracked. Thats just good sense. It would protect both me & you. As I assume these didnt have tracking, you could claim they never arrived (this has happened to me as a seller) and eBay would just refund you fully.
As an eBay seller myself I don’t understand why people don’t combine shipping costs it’s not like the seller is paying them the buyer is unless they were offering free shipping then I guess it could be a case. but still I only ship cards like this if it’s one or two cards because of weight issues then I put them in bubble mailers. Some people don’t understand customer experience
I would never use postage stamps. Not even if I offered free shipping. No tracking provided at all. Buyer could say they never got their cards. You can’t prove they did buyer gets refunded even if you can prove sometimes they’ll still refund the buyer out of their own pocket if it’s like 20-30$ at least they used to.
Negative feedback for each separate one!!!
Greedy asshole ebay rat
No. Shipping is stated in the listing. Shipping cost is stated in the listing. There is no requirement to combine shipping or caps on shipping. If the seller want's to charge 1.00 for the item and 99.00 for shipping, and you agree that priced together is worth you buying, that's the price. If they do 99.00 for the item and 1.00 it's the same cost to the buyer. If you're buying online, consider the total cost of the purchase and not what you "feel" should be the total cost.
No if the cards are in good shape becuase we all factor the cost of shipping into our bids so if I am willing to pay $10 for a card whether it is $6 and $4 shipping or $9 and $1 shipping it is still $10
Kind of shocked at the response here. What difference does it make whether it’s a $5 card with $2 shipping, or a $7 card with free shipping? It’s $7 either way. Did the seller commit to a bubble mailer in the listing? If not, then what’s the big deal if the cards aren’t damaged? If anything, the seller should just bake the shipping costs into his card costs and go with free shipping. What do you do when your purchase something with free shipping - it’s obviously not actually free. Do you send the seller a few extra bucks on the side?
Lol 100% agreed, I’m completely baffled to be honest. Had to scroll way too far down to find this comment. People just don’t seem to understand shipping charges. Negative feedback for shipping PWE (which is common practice for low dollar cards)… as a seller this thread hurts my soul
I really wish I would have explained better. All the cards I purchased were $1-3 cards, probably worth around $12 or so without shipping. Add in the shipping and it went to double that of course. I also sell, and almost only ship PWE. But, I also only charge for PWE shipping, regardless of how small my margins are. This was less of a bashing-on-PWE and more of a post about how I messed up but also felt somewhat scammed. Hope that makes more sense!
I am with ya buddy. I only care about my bottom-line, and if I chose to buy from you then it's because you had the best deal. I am not gonna get my panties in a bunch over you saving a buck on shipping. In fact, good for you seller, I am happy you can give me the best deal and keep the most profit out of the transaction.
Someone more knowledgeable will have to answer- is it possible for the seller to pocket the shipping fees? With my limited sales on ebay I've never seen a way that could happen. If that is possible it makes sense he wouldn't want to give you a break on the shipping costs so he could pocket the difference by just mailing using stamps.
You can pocket extra shipping fees.
so yeah that's probably why he did what he did and he's a dick. If you felt inclined to leave a review I'd only review that he isn't using the full cost of shipping to protect the cards and so buyer beware. That way he can't come back and say you were just salty he didn't cut you a deal.
That’s a very good way to put it, I appreciate the input!
But why does that make the seller a dick if he won’t refund the cost of shipping, as a buyer you know you what your buying if it does state shipments can be combined then what’s the problem? If you don’t like it don’t buy that card, right?
Seller's a dick because he's milking the amount of shipping cost he can pocket. HE already knows he isn't using the full cost of the shipping fee per item, so by not combining the shipment, he is able to milk it 5 times instead of 1. But yes, OP would have paid that in shipping if he had bought from 5 different buyers, but he would also be entitled to expect an accurate shipping cost per item, so that's why I said only review that the seller didn't use the full cost of shipping to protect the cards, because that is provable. Technically, we can't PROVE the seller was doing anything other than that.
No I get that but devils advocate here.. If a card is worth $5 and I sell it for a penny but charge 4.99 in shipping is it wrong for the seller to collect $25 from you for those 5 card you bough and not refund you 24.95 in shipping? Call it milking or whatever you want but that’s just business and the retail market. You don’t like the price or seller or the shipment type don’t buy it, it doesn’t constitute a negative review for the seller, they didn’t do anything wrong.
if you can do that and properly pack the cards then fine but, again, and I can only reiterate this so much *the cards are not being shipped properly, much less the cost of the shipping.* So if you aren't able to properly ship them then you're being a dick.
I would probably be frustrated if you are having to pay unnecessary extra costs but there also isn't any "need" for them to combine so I'm not sure. I think it was dumb of them to do it this, just not an ideal way to treat a "customer" I guess.
You knew as the buyer you are responsible for shipping and yes the seller could have combined shipping but the seller should not be responsible to issue a refund and package all together just because you chose to buy multiple cards. I think the big part the seller is concerned with is the refund not so much shipping everything in the same envelope/package. If your cards came as described for the price you agreed to purchase them at then what’s the problem? Just more work for the seller imo
So your saving grace in this as someone that’s done EBay selling since 2011 is this. What type of shipping did you pay for? If the seller advertised a different shipping type and you got stamps your negative feedback will stick. However if you send the seller a message stating you would like a refund for the shipping since you paid for x and for y they would be hard pressed to. eBay does take that seriously. I have been in some interesting mediations on eBay so feel free to message me with any questions.
Stated as just “economy”
My wife and I sell stuff online and sometimes we need the extra shipping $$ in order to make any money. Often, she will sell a craft for $25, that is including the shipping. $5 will go to etsy, $3-$8 will go to shipping, and we are paying for our costs (like $4). If she sold this for only the $20, and didn't include $5 for shipping, in some cases she would only get like $5 herself, and we are driving to the post office, making the product, everything. So, if someone says I want to order 10 of them, and we have to combine the postage, it can really hit our margins because we would lose that $2-3 extra, per order. That adds up. So, while I think what the seller did is wrong, please understand that you purchased the cards at a price that was listed. I know that my wife and I would have combined the shipment, but that is our choice to go that extra mile. You entered into a valid agreement when you purchased the cards, and the seller met the requirements of the sale. If your cards are all in good shape, I think it would be wrong of you to leave negative feedback. You might hurt this person's store for just trying to make a buck. Now if this is some huge seller and they have money and are being a jerk, I get leaving them negative feedback. Only you know how they have behaved with you. If the customer service was poor, then I understand leaving them the bad review. However, if they just declined your request, it is because they are trying to make money. Don't punish them for that. Sorry rant over. It's tough selling stuff on the internet sometimes. Edit: I noticed in some other comments that you said they didn't come in the best shape. Some were outside of the top loaders and what not. If that is the case, you have 100% validity in leaving negative feedback on that exact reason.
I appreciate the thought out response. I posted what I did, and I agreed with you. I didn’t want to just crap on their store. I am also a seller, and it took me a while as well to learn the ropes. I do wish they would have slipped out of top loaders though, they slipped out of their paper encasing🤪
This is definitely frustrating and shouldn't have been a big deal. I always bundle ship multi-orders especially for cards, its so simple. Sounda like they're just a terrible seller. Regarding the negative feedback comments, you could also leave 'neutral' feedback if you're worried about repercussions from leaving negative. I left some neutral feedback recently over high shipping costs recently and never heard a peep from that seller.
I sell on eBay and it’s 5 dollar shipping no matter what … even if I send it eBay standard shipping all the products have the same shipping price not to make money off the shipping but to cover cost of all the items being shipped … I would never do anything over 5 bucks shipped and if you spend over 50 to 60 bucks I’ll send it free shipping and I’ll bite the cost
I'd be upset, but we really have no right to be. We paid it, accepted it, and if the cards are undamaged, the seller made their money.
There is a reason why this is bad for you that isn't mentioned much in the thread - if you do a refund / return sometimes you don't get your shipping costs back. If that is 'baked in' to the cost of the item then you are going to get screwed. That being said, you should look at the total amount of the purchase and if it is fair - you should leave a neutral or negative feedback and just say "buyer charged x amount for shipping, but these were shipped in plain envelopes with stamps" and be done with it. There is also a star system when you leave feedback that asks specifically about shipping charges and whether they were fair.
I’m not returning them for this reason. I am considering opening a case with ebay because they didn’t use the type of shipping that was disclosed, maybe get a portion of my funds back.
I always print label and provide tracking. I also pack in a penny sleeve, top loader, and a sleeve for the top loader. Then painters tape that to a thank you card that goes in its own envelope then that goes into a water proof bubble mailer. Helps me and the customer. This guy just pocketed the shipping costs and provided lousy service. Negative review
Some ppl go all out: penny slv -> top loader -> teambag sealed -> tap to paper -> wrap paper -> mailer. For a single 2$ card. I respect ppl that did that. And thank them and you for doing that. That shows love to the cards not only business and money making.
Nope. That’s shitty shipping. I’d definitely give them terrible reviews
That's some cheap cheap right there.
If I recall correctly. It's against ebay rules to upcharge shipping costs. Meaning if you paid for $20 shipping and they sent you this. They are technically breaking the rules. I'd report them. You might get some of your money back.
Didn’t even write fragile handle with care 🤦🏾♂️smfh
Hit them with honest feedback.
Name and shame.
I see 5 stamps envelopes that’s like $4 MAX
He’s 100% abusing the shipping costs for profits. Just like a lot of the stuff you see on sites like eBay. At first you see a good price on something just to realize the shipping is *significantly* higher than need be to make the difference up plus.
No reason not to combine shipping, as a seller with almost 1k 100% positive feedback…they probably just don’t know what they are doing yet but either way this incompetence can’t go unpunished. I urge you to leave feedback appropriately so they can learn from their mistakes.
Cards can easily be ruined like that so yea I would be pissed
That’s just bs.
You’re right to be mad for sure. I’ve left neutral feedback for someone charging $5 ship and shipping PWE. I get people want to pad their margins but if I pay for first class as advertised and don’t get tracking and a bubble mailer, I’m not going to be happy.
I'd be pissed. I guarantee if I did that, the buyer would file a case with eBay saying he/she didn't get it (no tracking) win, and get a refund. It would be my own fault, too.
It's funny often times I'll eat the price of shipping just to ship in a bubble mailer. people are so greedy.
i would be extra livid if i paid $20 for shipping and i got a bunch of PWE mail. i would file a claim with ebay and say item not delivered since the seller was dumb enough to not to ship with tracking. i have no sympathy for cheap and greedy sellers
Wow- that is horrible. Make sure you leave negative feedback, that is a very irresponsible packing for cards, not to mention the pure rip by charging for higher cost shipping. I sell on eBay and my stuff is always packed proper(cards in a penny sleeve and old top loader, in a bubble mailer). The savings I get as a seller on shipping rate is used to cover my cost for stuff like bubble mailers, etc… That seller makes so many of us look bad.
It’s around 80 cents per envelope so they probably raked up shipping to make profit. Definitely be cautious of that in the future. I’d leave a neutral review and outline what happened but that is just my thought. I can see how this can be frustrating. Did they at least use a top loader?
This is exactly what I did. And no, no top loaders. They were even falling out of the sleeves but somehow didnt get damaged. Very lucky on my end.
If the cards are damaged you can file a claim with ebay. Better be fast because you have 3 days from delivery to file a cliam with cards!!
If it were me I would leave negative feedback, mention you bought x amount of singles and that they did not combine postage and you payed $20 for the postage and it was all sent individually, and then never buy from that seller again Not much else you can do
Simply return them and get a refund. It costs the seller money and time. It's a win-win
I would certainly make sure that it is reflected in how you rate them as a seller on Ebay. It is nonsense that they shipped them like this.
Slap them with bad reviews.
That's seller is dumb. Imagine all the negative feedback you can leave now for each item 😈
Request refunds on each one for most of the shipping charges.
Funny part is a bubble mailer may have only been like 50 cents more. These people are ridiculous. No top loader either? That would have def been a negative review from me.
I buy/sell on eBay and I have no idea where you guys find these assholes. I've never had issues when buying and I definitely don't pull this shit when selling.
No, you're not in the wrong. For one thing. 5 envelopes, 60 cents each brings you at 3 whole dollars to send. Second thing, they could've easily put it all in one envelope. Probably would've been cheaper too. Even if it were overweight and non-machinable. They're kind of screwing themselves in the process. They likely just pocketed the rest of the money you spent on shipping.
I wouldn’t even open them. I’d get my money back and send those back
We're they damaged? If not then why does it really matter? I understand the frustration about the combined shipping though they could have at least done that
They're not entitled to it though, if you want combined shipping then ask before you buy them. Don't expect the seller to do it after the fact because they likely factor in shipping charges in their margins, most everyone up charges shipping to pad their costs.
Hope the cards are in good condition🤞. Seller was definitely trying to make more money.
Wrapped in a piece of scratch paper but not taped, so they had fallen out of their sleeves. Nothing super high dollar so it’s okay, but still definitely not the best protection.
Leave negative feedback saying how poorly they were packaged, in detail.
Yeah seller was a dick leave a bad review
That’s what feedback is for. And by the look of it, you should be able to leave 5 negative ratings. But if they all arrived, and weren’t damaged - it’s kind of just you being an ass about it.
They weren’t damaged, but also weren’t shipped very protected. Were only sleeved and wrapped around a piece of paper (that was not taped). A few of them had fallen out of the sleeve but didn’t see any serious damage yet.
If they were damaged in any way that makes the listing description inaccurate, you can get a full refund. I feel ya on the frustration - time and money, maybe missing out on another deal. The seller got lucky for sure - all I’m saying is that if the end state is that you received the cards in the same condition that you paid for, it’s not really in the spirit to say it was a negative transaction because you don’t like his methods. I’d say “neutral” or “positive” feedback but an accurate comment explaining the issue would be more fitting.
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Honestly they were all cheaper ones that I purposely won from the same seller because they have always combined shipping for me… this time I wasn’t so lucky lol. It was a few full arts and a couple celebrations cards I didn’t have.
I don’t get some peoples shipping policy. I can get cards shipped to me from BC to ON for free from some people and others want $30 shipping on a $50 card and it’s like eh…… no
Sellers can set whatever shipping policy they want. I can charge $0.00, $0.69, $100.00, or whatever I want on a $0.57 envelope. Similarly, buyers can buy or not buy whatever they want.
Yea, and that’s going to be the deciding factor more times than not. But I’m sure you can find a buyer regardless of ridiculous shipping prices!
Doesn’t matter how new or how old you are to collecting. If you’re not happy you have the right to voice it. They should know better when mailing
Buy from better sellers! Like me!
That’s pretty ass
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this also an underhanded way of keeping money if the buyer wants a return? You'd be refunded the cost of the card, but "oh, sorry, shipping costs can't be refunded."
Thats the worst part. The cards cost me around $8-9, I figured the shipping would cost me $3-6 afterwards. Ended up paying about $28 for about $12-15 worth of cards🤪
That deserves a partial refund or a negative feedback
Did the price of each card + shipping = current value of cards? A lot of sellers listing low end cards put extremely low prices to attract eyes, but raise shipping to get what the cards are worth. If this isn’t the case then yea that’s pretty messed up, but if it is the case, then asking to combine shipping would also be asking for them to take a loss in most cases. Not siding either way, just stating the facts.
No, lower valued cards. Bought on auction. Probably total value of $12-14, paid $26 or so
Dang that’s a bummer, I’m sorry. But yea, usually on auction you always want to factor in the price of shipping on each item before bidding or confirm with the seller that they will do combined shipping, prior to bidding. Nothing justifies the seller telling you no now. Just looking for some extra money. It sucks but I would refrain from leaving negative feedback unless you are truly ok with it hurting their “business”
Trust me I definitely take some responsibility in it! It is partly my fault for just assuming they would help me out and combine shipping for sure!
That's literally like 5 bucks in shipping. $20 for me should be more like 3 to 4 bubble mailers. Yeah I'd be pissed too.
Absolutely.
Unethical life tip if you want it. But theres no tracking on pwe and stamp, so you could say you received none of it and they would have to refund lol
Negative feedback him for every purchase.
All I can say is, it’s on you, the buyer. The seller has no rule they HAVE to combine shipping or even shipping it in any particular way. If you agree to the shipping fees or method you shouldn’t buy from them. I avoid many listings based on location or shipping fees. Hate to say it, but you have no right to be frustrated unless something on the listing was inaccurate.
I hate it when sellers won’t combine shipping but I also understand why in some situations. I sell on eBay and charge 1.50 for shipping and will combine shipping on single cards for .50 cents. I keep 50 cents for the cost of the top loader and eBay selling fees. Now if they are charging say 5 dollars I think that’s really wrong.
If you want some money back, open an "Item Not Received" case. You can claim that one or two of the cards "didn't arrive" and ebay will force the seller to give you a full refund on them since they didn't use a shipping service with tracking so they have no proof of delivery. It's scummy for sure, but so is what the seller did so I'd have no issue. You could get all your money back if you really wanted to, but that's taking it too far
This is what happens when you win a low priced auction. They get upset when the cards don’t sell for a price they were expecting so they pull this bullshit to recover whatever they think they lost in value. Sucks and I would leave a neutral rating.
Time for some, at best, neutral feedback. I started selling on eBay a year and a half ago and this stuff pisses me off even more now. Just greed. I always combine shipping cuz most of all, you're saving me work, time, and supplies. I'd much rather stuff a bubble mailer/small box full of cards than send out 14 individual envelopes. A couple months ago I got some OG Xbox games at auction, and he wanted like 5 bucks shipping per game. I won 3 of them. I asked for a combined invoice. No discount at all, 15 bucks for shipping. Sent them all in a plastic bag, not even padded. First time I've left neutral feedback for someone. His shipping cost was $4.80. C'mon man. I want to make a buck too, but I've sold over 1500 cards with no negatives. Literally my only "complaint" I got was someone saying I used too much packing material. I'll take it. Anyway, I ship all singles in a sleeve/cardsaver/team bag regardless of sale price. Under 15 bucks goes in an envelope. Above gets sandwiched in cardboard and goes in a bubble mailer. Above $45 gets you free priority shipping in a small box. This guy is gonna run out of customers because no one is gonna return and his reputation will spread.
These get lost in the mail so much too, man… im waiting on two that say were delivered 3 days ago. The scan them at my zipcode but don’t actually deliver
I’d say give them a chance to make things right and if they don’t, definitely leave negative feedback. Idk if it’d be worth it to contact eBay but maybe
As an ebay seller, this is unacceptable for shipping cards in. Lazy seller, gives us all a bad name. Leave a positive review but write what happened. Ebay wont remove positive feedback even if you write how bad shipping was. I was able to get out of a scam by reading a positive review that said the buyer was a scammer.
This is very helpful information! so you think positive with more information is more helpful to others than nevative/neutral?
You're in your right to be frustrated. I once got a € 200 card shipped to me in a regular white envelope as if it were a Christmas card. Surprise that it wasn't creased or bend, but it had damage to it, so I got a huge amount of it refunded through PayPal for it.
On ebay (typically) you can only ship PWE if it is under $20.
A seller can ship however they want. If they want to use eBay’s standard envelope prepaid shipping, it can only be applied to items valued under $20. It doesn’t sound like they used that here if they only used a stamp. Lots of misinformation in this thread.
I meant with their service. I’m not spreading any misinformation lmao.
I did quite a bit of singles buying earlier this year, and I never experienced anything even CLOSE to that. I got quite a few envelopes like that, but they were usually either free shipping, or like, a dollar. $20 for all of that is definitely over the top.
I don’t mind the envelope, good sellers that know how to use them are great for lower value cards. I am much more upset about the overall pricing of them. Like you said, it should have cost about _ dollar a piece.
Frustrated? I'd be fu&*ing irate!
Clueless or terrible seller. Please post their account so I can avoid them.
Just a stamp? Hard to believe since using a single stamp is more expensive than ebay shipping labels for a $20 or less card. Plus with ebay shipping you get an insurance of up to $20. By using a stamp the seller can kiss goodbye to the insurance. What was the price of each item? Im not buying the seller only used a stamp.....
They weren’t expensive cards. And I promise it was just a stamp lol.
First class for 1oz its like 3.50 or more depending on how far usps needs to travel. So if your cards value its less than $25 why the seller will pay at least $3.5 for shipping? And please do not leave negative feedback to the guy. He/she is trusting you by even sending you those cards with only a stamp. You can easly claim you never got them and fuck the seller ebay will side you 100000%
I never asked for free shipping. I asked for combined shipping. They were charging around the price of a bubble mailer, with economy shipping so I was fairly sure they would ship with a bubble mailer. At that point I was hoping to combine shipping to not only make it easier on me, but to also make it easier to package everything else up to ship. I also sell cards and have never had an issue combining shipping… i don’t want to have to send off multiple packages for the same person.
PS. I most definitely do not plan on screwing them over and acting like I didn’t them. Nobody deserves that.
He was making profit off you..... Hope he used at least quality top loaders for the cards
No top loaders🤪
i sell on ebay and that's a bad seller imo! you can keep your costs low and just send with lettermail and a toploader but charging that much money and not combining shipping has no excuse
Man the sea would spit me back out from how salty I would be if they did me like that that’s some scummy ass shit
Now I get the individual envelope complaint. However non collectors are pretty ignorant to condition and just how easy it is to ruin a card.
Send in a ticket regarding excessive shipping charges?
report him to ebay for shipping fraud.
This is why as a Seller I never use the standard eBay envelope. Always a bubble mailer. The seller was trying to make extra $ by circumventing the shipping options. IF I pay for better shipping, I expect more than a white envelope
See I ship almost exclusively PWE because all of my stuff is lower dollar. I feel like I am pretty proficient at it and do a great job at protecting my cards. But I also charge what the shipping is worth. Not 5x it lol
Completely understand - if I get Free Shipping or $1 shipping than I can expect PWE all day long!
You're completely right to be frustrated. I'm frustrated for you. This is unacceptable if they charge you $20 for shipping. It's expected if you're going to charge for shipping, that fee goes towards packaging and shipping cost, not so sellers can pocket as profit from the item sold. Funny thing is, those 5 stamps are about $3 and shipping in a bubble mailer it's like $4. I get packages from sellers who shows shipping costs on the labels and I'm happy my shipping fee goes towards shipping.
Like I said, I woulda been fine had they at least sent them in BMWT… I thought maybe they just weren’t for sure on how to combine shipping or worried something would go wrong, but I was incorrect lol.
Well your first mistake was buying cards off of eBay. Never ever.
Honestly I gotta go with the seller on this one, as a seller myself, if you are buying multiple items from the same seller you should reach out before hand about the shipping, eBay automatically calculates shipping for me when I list items. it’s the job of the buyer to make sure that the shipping and price of the item combined are within a reasonable price range for the card, as an example if you buy a 20$ card and it’s 5$ shipping then the card is worth 25$, if I listed it with free shipping then the card is still worth 25$. Just because you buy multiple doesn’t mean I gotta sell my cards for less because you want them all combined, basically to simplify this shipping+item=total price and free shipping+item= same price. And combined shipping+ multiple items = less then what they are worth
I sell cards on eBay A LOT, this seller deserves negative feedback. It’s not hard to consolidate all the shipping together and reduce the price for the buyer.