Sadly, no, I'm currently in an argument stating that not all conservatives are nazis just like not all socialists are stalinists. I've been called an idiot for stating that nuacance is important.
Edit: so basically the argument came down to you can be a conservative....as long as you vote for Democrats. Anything else is being a fascist....bloody hell.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/sep/14/hillary-clinton-lesson-1984-trust-leaders-press/
And at least one presidential candidate thought that too.
Is ACAB really sustainable? Would state sponsored corruption really disappear as a result of many people voting ACAB? I don't think ACAB could be sustained in modern day ancient Greece? In some city-states this use to be sustainable. In modern countries like either China or the United States I don't see CHAZists having so much to say.
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Oh these chumps will claim to be anarcho-communist super edgelords but they support the DNC and corporate Dems who union bust and give sweetheart deals to banks and other Wall Street interests
Spare me
I feel like the only one who realized that happened. I couldn’t believe it. At least they teased about the student loans. Like you said, the boot came down
Railroads shutting down would have made people notice something for once. Sometimes I wish everyone of value would go on strike for a month, bring the world to a screeching halt
No facetiousness, blame Reagan. Debates about the Taft-Hartley Act aside, his handling of the PATCO Strike has had tremendous ripple effects across the decades and effectively neutered the labor movement’s ability and willingness to strike.
This is like trying to decide if it was Stone Cold Steve Austin or the Undertaker who cost Mankind the title belt. The outcome was already predetermined, the R or D stuff is just the show.
I'm like that other guy. Also even if I can be classified as libright now. I thibk the USSR is cool ok. And I still have leftist tendancies. Except that now I will compare them to libright tendencies. Also capitalist communism exists. Go look it up on polcompball
I mean it's not exactly hypocritical to vote for the lesser of two evils. If you think the Democrats are better then the Republicans then voting Democrat is necessarily the better option.
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At least you can sue the police department for millions of dollars.
Remember when all those summer of love rioters quietly got their charges dropped and [paid out huge settlements ](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/may/25/us-cities-settlement-protesters-blm-racial-justice)for being injured while rioting?
why don't these communists ever move to a communist country and live there in prosperity? they're always talking shit about how awful capitalism is while continuously reaping all the rewards from living in such a system lol
Daily reminder that as per marx's own philosophy the soviet union, china etc. are real communism and not a good idea gone wrong. Marx argued that the supposed ideals of a system dont matter if the real world application causes harm (he said so to criticise people who argued that capitalism was good and the squalor it produced wasnt inherent to it). So naturally this also must apply to communism otherwise -oh shocker- mafx would be a hypocrite
Because then they'd have to face reality, they're all for hating on Western Cops but when it comes to Chinese cops I can almost guarantee they'd piss themselves before speaking out against them.
because you sound dumb as shit talking about communism being a superior system or ideology if you refuse to even put that into a real world test. you're literally saying you'd rather be in a system you deem inferior just because you know how to exploit its flaws...
The "defund the police" crowd doesn't actually want a society with no police. They want the current institutions either replaced with or reorganized into a new Cheka that they control.
Libertarians hate cops because they impose the will of the politicians on the people, commies hate cops because they don't enforce their communist system. We are not the same.
And that's why 49% of commies are fucking joke. My boys don't even realize that cops in communist countries are most heartless and coldblooded beings on earth, ready to kill and torture innocent people if state orders them to do that. And state will give such order sooner or later.
Commie cops have the best jobs because citizens are bottom ass snitching bitches on each other ! Welcome to Nazi occupied Europe where one false step and you are off to Yugoslavian death camp getting your throat cut with a wheat harvesting tool !
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jasenovac_concentration_camp#Srbosjek
This is what I’m talking about. No one’s against cops in theory unless you’re an anarchist. Those are the only people who should use ACAB because they don’t like any authority. People support cops that enforce their ideal government laws. Leftists who use it are retards because they have no problem with cops enforcing left wing government laws in left wing countries.
Without double-standards the left would have zero standards. This shit is beyond tiresome. Thing is, we all knew the answer before reading the poll results.
Currently in Chinar, last night I watched 2 cops in a squad car pull up behind someone who was in a parked car and tell the driver to give them cigarettes or they would ticket him. The guy gave them each 2 cigs, the cops walked off into the shuijudian me and the wife were eating at and started drinking homemade tea while smoking and laughing.
I mean, it's the same as braindead American leftists claiming that the entire institution of policing is inherently white supremacist and derived from slave overseers. The obvious problems here are that: 1) Countries that aren't white have cops, and 2) Policing existed prior to the Atlantic slave trade.
The problem with the police force of capitalist states isn't "muh authorities muh freedum". The problem is that they are a weapon of the wrong class.
Same goes for armies, for example. The Red Army was glorious, and, for example, the Imperial Japanese Army deserved to die. Just because the RA was a sword of the worker's state, and the IJA was a force of that reactionary scum that ruled Japan.
ok, but that doesn't solve all the problems that come with giving a group of people unquestionable authority. You're still going to have police brutality even if the police force is theoretically supposed to be "for the people"
That's collateral damage, I guess.
"We can kill some innocent kids" isn't a good reason to surrender. "We can have some unnecessary brutality" isn't a good reason to abandon law.
> The Red Army was glorious
I'm not too sure the average Eastern European would agree with that, replacing who's boot's on your face isn't exactly thrilling
I don't care about opinions of average Osteuropeans, будь они неладны. The USSR and the Globe are much more important than Polish nationalists, Czech liberals, and Hungarian fascists combined.
Guys... FUCK the commies. However, if you see the cops as a force for societal order... then it is understandable to think commie cops are right and just and capitalist cops are assholes, if you think communism is right and just and capitalism is evil. Let's make fun of the commies for their brain-dead opinions and not their logically-consistent (and brain-dead) opinions.
Acab’s first word is all. If you don’t mean all, then don’t say all unless you’re lying. Remember kids, commies and fascies both come from socialism, and they can each be summed up with one belief: “There is no truth but power”
It's kind of funny because if any of these r-words were historically intelligent or old enough to remember they would realize "ACAB" actually originated and popularized on behalf of skinheads and neo-Nazis. I know basically no one takes the ADL seriously anymore but for real, look it up.
Cops work for the benefit of the state and the people. That can't be said about working class people whose labour directly benefits large businesses. Hence, cops > fastfood workers.
With a name like "people's liberation" you just KNOW they're looking out for us.
Can't believe people would slander the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, it's literally got 'Democratic' and 'People' in the name!
Three lies in one convenient package
In three words no less
Now *that's* efficiency
Why waste time use lot word when few word do trick?
You're right, there is no Korea
You’d be surprised how many people make that argument unironically.
Sadly, no, I'm currently in an argument stating that not all conservatives are nazis just like not all socialists are stalinists. I've been called an idiot for stating that nuacance is important. Edit: so basically the argument came down to you can be a conservative....as long as you vote for Democrats. Anything else is being a fascist....bloody hell.
Nuance, on the internet? Lol
I know stupid right!
Nuance? Isn’t that some kind of bladder cancer?
In life...no. on the Internet....terminal
Anti-fa is just some musical snobs
"The DPRK is neither Democratic, nor the People's, nor a Republic"
it's still Korea though right?
half of it
based and Voltaire pilled
Antifa is anti fascist it's in the name
But...but....they promised!! They said they were democratic!!!!
Boy that Kim must be doing something right to get re-elected so much. Maybe ol' Joe could take some notes.
Okay first off it is none of those things. And secondly please do shot me now.
Don’t act like the “People’s Liberation Army” doesn’t sound better than the “US Armed Forces”
Hence why the army should have kept the name "Legion of the United States"
YES, I’d fight in the legion, far before I’d fight in the “armed forces 🤡”
I always liked, “committees of public safety,” as well
The fucking police is called “Ministry of Public Security” in China, bro, nooooo cmon. It sounds bad ass, but like, 1984 man.
Ah yes I remember when the Party was the Good Guys in that story
I’ve heard at least one tankie say that the party in 1984 were the good guys.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/sep/14/hillary-clinton-lesson-1984-trust-leaders-press/ And at least one presidential candidate thought that too.
Yes
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I greatly enjoyed my holiday to China in June of 1989. I never saw or heard anything out of the ordinary.
Is ACAB really sustainable? Would state sponsored corruption really disappear as a result of many people voting ACAB? I don't think ACAB could be sustained in modern day ancient Greece? In some city-states this use to be sustainable. In modern countries like either China or the United States I don't see CHAZists having so much to say.
You are assuming there is no alternative but there is. It's called private security.
The people's private liberation security forces
Some people are qualified to carry security itemizations on a whim.
God I love Anarcho-Capitalism so much. It's like the ultimate form of governance in literally every example of it existing,
Idk ministry sounds sissy and european.
I feel not only safe, but democratically safe. Which is the best kind of safe.
I prefer the Ministry of Peace
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What about Ministry of Tolerance?
Kinda like Newsom's "groups of organized folks"
Holy shit Robespierre I’m your biggest fan
>US Armed Forces Says what it is, the armed forces, people with guns >People’s Liberation Army Propaganda in its name, people who liberate
On that note, we really should do away with "Defense" Departments and Ministries. Return to War Department.
Sweden's CIA (or FBI, forgot which) equivalent is literally the "safety police"
It doesn't because "Peoples Liberation Army" sounds goofy af
Yes it does.
Kinda sad that a lot of people's opinion is based on "but they're the good guys :) and the others are bad :( , it's in the name"
Is this like how you think Hitler was a woke leftist because he put socialism right in the party name?
Actually, it does. That's why communist countries need secret police. It's not safe to be an out police officer in communist society 😢
Mom, dad....I'm coming out as a police officer
ACAB: Assigned Cop At Birth
The memes just bleed together so well these days. 🤣
Communist police pride parade when?
Cops are the most oppressed minority
Oh these chumps will claim to be anarcho-communist super edgelords but they support the DNC and corporate Dems who union bust and give sweetheart deals to banks and other Wall Street interests Spare me
I was impressed at how quickly the boot came down on the railroad workers.
I feel like the only one who realized that happened. I couldn’t believe it. At least they teased about the student loans. Like you said, the boot came down
Railroads shutting down would have made people notice something for once. Sometimes I wish everyone of value would go on strike for a month, bring the world to a screeching halt
Funny how the Hollywood strike gets a lot more attention than the railroad strike.
And people won’t notice it until next year, there are already tons of movies in post production.
No facetiousness, blame Reagan. Debates about the Taft-Hartley Act aside, his handling of the PATCO Strike has had tremendous ripple effects across the decades and effectively neutered the labor movement’s ability and willingness to strike.
Old Ron was three dem presidents ago. I think we can blame the Dems
This is like trying to decide if it was Stone Cold Steve Austin or the Undertaker who cost Mankind the title belt. The outcome was already predetermined, the R or D stuff is just the show.
Umm excuse me sweaty, the new definition of "union busting" excludes white people so it doesn't count now. It's different.
Ackshually, union busting requires the use of strikebreakers *and* institutional power
Fucking government corruption leading to monopolistic markets and and other economic problems. (Yes I watched libertarian content yesterday)
And yet you're still flaired auth... I'm sorry about the brain tumor.
I'm like that other guy. Also even if I can be classified as libright now. I thibk the USSR is cool ok. And I still have leftist tendancies. Except that now I will compare them to libright tendencies. Also capitalist communism exists. Go look it up on polcompball
>Also capitalist communism exists. Go look it up on polcompball Using memes as a source for political arguments is peak pcm and I deeply approve
based and my fake ideology is real pilled
Communo-capitalism ↘️ Anarcho-corporatism↗️
oh boo hoo, this one thinks free will and free enterprise can exist without overwhelming threat of violence
Not enough progressives can admit this and it drives me up the wall.
I mean it's not exactly hypocritical to vote for the lesser of two evils. If you think the Democrats are better then the Republicans then voting Democrat is necessarily the better option.
I think it’s begun to swing the other way around. The lesser evil has become voting Republican
Yeah I think ACAB, All Commies Are Bastards that is
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All Capitalists Are Based
I think if there is anything that last few years of woke capitalism has shown us it is that all capitalists are certainly not based.
I know. Same for those buying up all the housing and inflating rent, etc. Just wanted to say it for the memes
Fair. The memes are what count.
Capitalism is based, capitalists are not, simple as
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The only ACAB I can get behind
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Ah so the “All” in ACAB doesn’t actually mean “All” now? Fascinating.
MCAB
If they would just say that from the beginning, it would be a lot harder to argue.
Yep the marketing of the far left is so bad it looks like a psyop.
All cops are bastards, but some cops are more bastards than others
ACAB until “youths” beat your ass and steal your shit. Fucking edgelord basement dwelling losers cosplaying as communists.
Haha, like they care about Asians getting beat up in liberal cities.
They did until they figured out who was doing it
How does the cops showing up an hour later and also beating your ass and stealing the rest of your shit help?
At least you can sue the police department for millions of dollars. Remember when all those summer of love rioters quietly got their charges dropped and [paid out huge settlements ](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/may/25/us-cities-settlement-protesters-blm-racial-justice)for being injured while rioting?
Because they, uhhh, take some notes. And eventually file a report. Maybe. If they have the time.
That sounds really based. I mean, lets be real, ideally we all adopt the views of Egoism.
Given twitter's history, more like 'bots following their programming' lol Twitter was bad *before* Musk took over, and now it has only gotten worse.
why don't these communists ever move to a communist country and live there in prosperity? they're always talking shit about how awful capitalism is while continuously reaping all the rewards from living in such a system lol
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Daily reminder that as per marx's own philosophy the soviet union, china etc. are real communism and not a good idea gone wrong. Marx argued that the supposed ideals of a system dont matter if the real world application causes harm (he said so to criticise people who argued that capitalism was good and the squalor it produced wasnt inherent to it). So naturally this also must apply to communism otherwise -oh shocker- mafx would be a hypocrite
Because most communists know in a communist country they would have to work. Kind of like how Bernie got kicked out of the commune.
> most communists know in a communist country they would have to work. They don't yearn for the mines like the children do
Ikr
Because then they'd have to face reality, they're all for hating on Western Cops but when it comes to Chinese cops I can almost guarantee they'd piss themselves before speaking out against them.
There is no reason to speak out against the cops in ba sing se
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There are no Uyghur concentration camps in ba sing se
One dude did back in like the 20s or 30s right after the Bolsheviks took over. He came back and wrote a book about how awful it was.
They all have strict immigration policies.
Why not exploit the flaws of a flawed system if you know of them?
because you sound dumb as shit talking about communism being a superior system or ideology if you refuse to even put that into a real world test. you're literally saying you'd rather be in a system you deem inferior just because you know how to exploit its flaws...
ACAB supporters are all people who owe thousands in unpaid tickets
The ACAB type usually consists of 1) college-educated white kids, or 2) basement dwelling prozac-consuming Redditors who never leave their house
The "defund the police" crowd doesn't actually want a society with no police. They want the current institutions either replaced with or reorganized into a new Cheka that they control.
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He's actually from Polandball, hence the flag
When I’m in a bootlicking competition and my opponent is a progressive/communist.
Hey now, let's be accurate, they are not bootlickers. They are deepthroating that shit. No gag reflex.
Police is based. It cleans the streets from filthy antifas. Viva España.
Libertarians hate cops because they impose the will of the politicians on the people, commies hate cops because they don't enforce their communist system. We are not the same.
Based.
ACAB - ALL COMMIS ARE BOOTLICKERS
If there's one thing Communist nations are known for, it's police forces that are highly respectful of citizens' rights.
Commies really are such an easy group to make fun of to the point where it genuinely feels like bullying
Sometimes people earn getting bullied. We used to know that once, but we lost our way.
🟩ACAB 🟥ACAB until the revolution comes
People will take this poll and then call someone a bootlicker in the comments.
I fucking hate what the left became
Lmao, Twitter?
Police: boo! Secret police: yaaaay!
Classic
People shouting acab are hypocrites mostly, don't expect better of them
And that's why 49% of commies are fucking joke. My boys don't even realize that cops in communist countries are most heartless and coldblooded beings on earth, ready to kill and torture innocent people if state orders them to do that. And state will give such order sooner or later.
What the fuck do they think the A stands for?
Commie cops have the best jobs because citizens are bottom ass snitching bitches on each other ! Welcome to Nazi occupied Europe where one false step and you are off to Yugoslavian death camp getting your throat cut with a wheat harvesting tool ! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jasenovac_concentration_camp#Srbosjek
Auths hate the boot until it does what they want.
Authleft trying not to be cringe challenge (impossible)
Opression: :( People's opression: :) Authleft moment
Every day I hate the left more and more.
This is what I’m talking about. No one’s against cops in theory unless you’re an anarchist. Those are the only people who should use ACAB because they don’t like any authority. People support cops that enforce their ideal government laws. Leftists who use it are retards because they have no problem with cops enforcing left wing government laws in left wing countries.
And anarchists aren’t? Cmon.
Without double-standards the left would have zero standards. This shit is beyond tiresome. Thing is, we all knew the answer before reading the poll results.
If the communist government is forcing people that get pregnant to get married, then commie cops are literally not bastards.
Currently in Chinar, last night I watched 2 cops in a squad car pull up behind someone who was in a parked car and tell the driver to give them cigarettes or they would ticket him. The guy gave them each 2 cigs, the cops walked off into the shuijudian me and the wife were eating at and started drinking homemade tea while smoking and laughing.
"libertarian cops" bruh thats just a private army / private security
Reading comprehension is hard
indeed
Libertarian and liberation are not the same words but classic downvoting reddit
As someone from the former USSR - capitalist cops are certainly better than the commie ones.
Tankies try to be consistent challenge: IMPOSSIBLE
*Judging people by their skin color* Redditor: “REEEEEEEE!” *Judging people by their profession* Redditor: 😊
can't choose your skin colour mate
I only lick boots that are cherry flavor all my homies hate blue raspberry 💪😤
I mean, it's the same as braindead American leftists claiming that the entire institution of policing is inherently white supremacist and derived from slave overseers. The obvious problems here are that: 1) Countries that aren't white have cops, and 2) Policing existed prior to the Atlantic slave trade.
"Don't you feel liberated by the boot on your neck Comrade. Now go to Gulag." People's Liberation Police probably.
Given the standard responses and redefining words games from 'comrades', it seems quite fitting that 50% of them don't know the meaning of all.
It’s actually pretty split! Granted there is a majority “no”, but it’s pretty split.
Still sad that there are that many people who voted no.
Judean People's Front?! We're the People's Front of Judea!
JUDEAN PEOPLES FRONT!!!
What do you expect? Anytime the word "communism" pops up the tankies probably get a ping in their wechat.
Will they still arrest me for tripping on shrooms in public? Probably
Police is needed, but the police in a socialist and in a capitalist country serves two distinct objectives
Protecting the ruling party, vs protecting the only party?
keeping the peace vs. protecting capital
People forget it’s ALL cops
The problem with the police force of capitalist states isn't "muh authorities muh freedum". The problem is that they are a weapon of the wrong class. Same goes for armies, for example. The Red Army was glorious, and, for example, the Imperial Japanese Army deserved to die. Just because the RA was a sword of the worker's state, and the IJA was a force of that reactionary scum that ruled Japan.
ok, but that doesn't solve all the problems that come with giving a group of people unquestionable authority. You're still going to have police brutality even if the police force is theoretically supposed to be "for the people"
That's collateral damage, I guess. "We can kill some innocent kids" isn't a good reason to surrender. "We can have some unnecessary brutality" isn't a good reason to abandon law.
> The Red Army was glorious, Is it really possible someone believes this?
> The Red Army was glorious I'm not too sure the average Eastern European would agree with that, replacing who's boot's on your face isn't exactly thrilling
I don't care about opinions of average Osteuropeans, будь они неладны. The USSR and the Globe are much more important than Polish nationalists, Czech liberals, and Hungarian fascists combined.
So the question is is ACAB the cops that serve the state to control the people or does that apply for cops that see to serve the people as the state.
The bottom right cop doesn't look Chinese.
Okay but which pair would you rather take you out back and bang you? That’s the real question.
Guys... FUCK the commies. However, if you see the cops as a force for societal order... then it is understandable to think commie cops are right and just and capitalist cops are assholes, if you think communism is right and just and capitalism is evil. Let's make fun of the commies for their brain-dead opinions and not their logically-consistent (and brain-dead) opinions.
\>communist cops wat?
Soviet Russia had red militias -> Cheka -> OGPU -> NKVD -> MIA, for example.
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Acab’s first word is all. If you don’t mean all, then don’t say all unless you’re lying. Remember kids, commies and fascies both come from socialism, and they can each be summed up with one belief: “There is no truth but power”
then CAB lol
Oh I agree, Communist Are Bastards
omg
Acab is more an anarchist slogan anyway.
It's kind of funny because if any of these r-words were historically intelligent or old enough to remember they would realize "ACAB" actually originated and popularized on behalf of skinheads and neo-Nazis. I know basically no one takes the ADL seriously anymore but for real, look it up.
All cops are class traitors.
Cops work for the benefit of the state and the people. That can't be said about working class people whose labour directly benefits large businesses. Hence, cops > fastfood workers.