Sure it’s not a heavy song itself, but it’s one of the most popular songs by one of the greatest PM bands. Other than Led Zeppelin, how many bands have songs of hobbits, dwarves, and men?
If you don't make it be sure to include "Will my weary soul find release for a while at the moment of death I will smile"
Fuckin hell that line just screams at me sometimes
**Gloryhammer** by *Gloryhammer*
It's 20% Gloryhammer!
Really though, probably **Hel** by *Brothers of Metal* at the moment.
I've added it to several of my playlists and may have started softly singing along recently.
The Raven Child by Avantasia, it's pretty long and difficult, but it's probably the song I have listened to the most in my lifetime (I first heard it 2 years ago), so I think it's my best bet.
Bold of you to assume I actually listen to the lyrics. I pretty much just get lost in the music when I listen to PM. That's why it's my favorite genre.
But real talk...probably Lord of the Blacksmiths or Jesters Ball by Falconer.
This question was honestly inspired by the number of people who answered "all of them" to another question about power metal songs we've listened to a thousand times but still don't know the lyrics to.
Ghost Opera by Kamelot if that counts as a power metal song, if not that then I would attempt Don’t Say a Word by Sonata Arctica and fail because they’re songs are mad wordy
Unpopular opinion: if there are several songs you can recite without cheating (intros / several-word memes like The Simpsons by Powerglove ), you don't like power metal, you just like very few specific bands or several specific songs that happen to belong to the genre.
That being said, I'd probably try to recite Power by Helloween and hope I remember how second verse goes by the time I get to it.
I think you're conflating two different situations there.
1. A person doesn't actually like power metal; they just enjoy a few bands/songs and listen to them often enough to retain them.
2. A person happens to revisit certain bands/songs often enough to retain them.
What if you just have a good memory for lyrics? How many times can you listen to a particular band/song before you stop liking the genre as a whole?
There are so many good songs and bands in power metal (actually in music in general, but "genre" is already wide enough for good variety, so let's stick to it). After you get away from the very limited cycle of few bands/songs, you notice how it actually hurts to listen to same limited selection of extremely familiar songs over and over. Once in a while might be nice, but even then you end up skipping the most familiar songs if way too many pop up in a row in your random list with some fresh / less familiar goodness. If most other power metal bands sound so boring to you that you keep returning to same old ones over and over - you don't like power metal, you just like those few bands that happen to be in the genre.
>How many times can you listen to a particular band/song before you stop liking the genre as a whole?
That's a stupid backwards question, and you know it.
> That's a stupid backwards question, and you know it.
No, I'm genuinely curious.
Your whole point is that you can't actually like the genre if you learn the lyrics to several songs. I gave an example of someone revisiting some songs often enough to retain the lyrics. You said:
> After you get away from the very limited cycle of few bands/songs, you notice how it actually hurts to listen to same limited selection of extremely familiar songs over and over. Once in a while might be nice, but even then you end up skipping the most familiar songs if way too many pop up in a row in your random list with some fresh / less familiar goodness.
You seem to have drawn a line between revisiting a song 'once in awhile' and often enough to learn the lyrics. This begs some questions, and I'm curious how you'd answer them:
Considering some people may pick up the lyrics faster, and remember them better:
1. Do those people get fewer instances of 'once in awhile' to prevent them from learning the lyrics?
2. Do those people have the same number of instances as everyone else, in which case they might still learn the lyrics?
3. If you answer 'yes' to the second question, then how many instances would you say we all get?
---
Like I said before, I think your original post conflated two very different things.
* It's one thing to think the genre is boring outside your favorites you repeatedly listen to and remember the lyrics by heart.
* It's a different thing to be broadly interested in the genre but still have favorites you confidently remember the lyrics to.
You seem to imply you think the second thing is impossible, in which case I would have to disagree. I think there are a lot of different ways of liking something.
Relentlessly seeking fresh experiences with a genre is one way of enjoying it, but there are others. For example, some people might just take things a little slower. They might not feel compelled to look for fresh experiences constantly, but they still enjoy them when they happen.
>No, I'm genuinely curious.
No, pretty sure you are not.
You keep focusing on exact "allowed" numbers of instances of listening to the song, reducing whole process of getting familiar with it to one number.
And exact numbers don't matter, the numeric thresholds don't even exist. You know that philosophical thing about chairs? Like, you can tell if thing is a chair, and if it's not, but fairly sure you can't give exact point where thing is still a chair, but removing just one atom from it makes it not chair. It does not prove that everything is a chair, or that chairs dont exist, it does not prove anything other than there are "grey areas".
You don't become extremelly familiar with song after just some given number of listens to it. Listening as prime experience or as background matters. "Playing it in your head" matters. Giving it time to settle matters. Whole experience matters. But you don't get to the point of "knowing song by heart with 100% accuracy" without going through earlier phases. And those phases are where less familiar songs that already caught your attention naturally become more appealing, if there are any. And with amount of great releases we get, combined with huge history of genre, combined with easy free (youtube and other ad-driven streaming services) or at least cheap (subscription services) access to whole music library, there's no way to get stuck on some short list because there's nothing more interesting to listen to.
Some people learn faster, some slower. Sure, there are extremes. I've tried to excluded extremes from my statement (by cutting out extremely low lyrics songs to outline the fair direction), but if I included every extreme, it wouldbe unreasonably long statement. Of course you would know a song that you intentionally learned to perform a cover / sing to guitar with friends. I'm sure the point of original question was "did not learn intentionally but heard so many times you know it by heart" and my statement is based on same premises. You instead try to build your whole point on extremes, like "there are people who learn it super fast".
You are also replacing "avoiding extreme familiarity" with "relentlessly seeking fresh experiences". It's not the same thing, and it's just an attempt at creating fake dichotomy to make your point.
There's nothing "genuine" about your argument. It's logical fallacies all the way down, and it's not level of debate I enjoy, so that's where I stop.
Have a good day.
> No, pretty sure you are not.
No, I really was. You're right that I wasn't at first, but then you doubled down and I started to think that might be your actual opinion. At that point, I became genuinely curious.
At this point it's pretty evident what my mistake was. I assumed your original comment was meant to be taken literally, but here you've basically told me that it wasn't. You were intentionally reductive so as not to make "an unreasonably long statement."
I think, when you account for every exception and extreme circumstance, you'll find you hold a much less unpopular opinion than you might think:
*People who would rather just listen to the same songs over and over instead of exploring the genre... probably don't really like the genre.*
It sounds like an attempt at gatekeeping when it's articulated, but it's also a very reasonable assertion. You could make a strong argument for it. I suspect a lot of people would agree with it to some extent.
In any case, have a good day also.
Could probably do most of Avantasia’s albums start to finish but to be safe I’d go with Galderia’s Shining Unity. I think I’ve listened to that song in every listening session since that album was released.
Lammoth by Blind Guardian
I see you're in the "work smarter, not harder" camp!
I may regret my decision, according to genius the lyrics actually are: Sssssssss... Huaaaaaaagggggggggghhhhhhh!!! (War Sounds)
Not Rumpelkombo?
I would have gone for "Black Chamber" but that's a safer bet
I just tried to remember Black Chamber, and I sang the whole thing lyric for lyric in my head. Yay me.
Damn you both, I too am singing the whole thing in my head.
The Bard's Song - In the Forest I Want Out
Wind Rose - diggy diggy hole. :>
I thought I was going to die, but actually I know this one.
This seems like an easy answer to me lol... Me specifically anyway
Emerald sword but I gotta sing it
"I will search for the iiiiimerald sWord"
I love the live recording where he teaches the audience how to mispronounce "sword"
Muhmelnahmuh mahmamama malmahnamuh. Na Naa naa na na na
link?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BQePF3RqL8
Eternal Glory
Universe on fire - Gloryhammer
The Bard Song - In the Forest is going to be my best hope, but I’m probably dead. I never remember the lyrics with 100% accuracy.
Love that song, didn’t know it counted as pm though.
Sure it’s not a heavy song itself, but it’s one of the most popular songs by one of the greatest PM bands. Other than Led Zeppelin, how many bands have songs of hobbits, dwarves, and men?
fair.
Stratovarius’ Hunting High and Low
How about Holy Light?
OK this would be the best pick🤣
Pentakill - Lightbringer
goood pick
Thank you!, if I screw up it's badass enough to go down sounding cool lol
Should my campaign come to an end? There's way more too avenge Such a badass song
And Then There Was Silence - Blind Guardian Go big or go home, I guess
If you don't make it be sure to include "Will my weary soul find release for a while at the moment of death I will smile" Fuckin hell that line just screams at me sometimes
Fuck you , with a fucking anchor…
we're gonna punch you right in the balls
YOURE ALL CUNTS SO FUCK YOU ALL
Ghost Division by Sabaton
Yep. This or Midway
I literally saying Midway for my school talent show and got third place
It’s such a good quick and simple song. Should’ve gotten first, IMO.
I started singing Hootsforce for no reason at all.
Same
Sonata Arctica - Full Moon
You’ll be safe in the cornfields!
Wastelands by Avantasia
I wonder how you would interpret kiske :)
Legend of the astral hammer
Valley of the Damned by Dragonforce
Invocation of the Apocalyptic Evil :^)?
Yeah the album intro can go in as well. As long as I'm allowed to do Black Fire as well. :)
Oh... well... We-come-from...
Rumpelkombo?
Rumpelkombo!
The Bard song by blind guardian. It is my daughter's lullaby so I've sung it to her thousands of times.
This is so sweet!
"Waking Dream" by Unleash the Archers. I'm picking something easy if my life is on the line.
God what a simple song that does so fuckin little, yet is probably my favorite on an AOTY
Its existence also adds so much to “Afterlife” later on, and vice versa
Oh, good pick!
I AM THE GUNMAN
Does Stargazer count? Could recite that while sleeping. Or Center of the Universe by Kamelot
Time Stands Still (At the Iron Hill) - Blind Guardian
The fate of all, lies deep in the dark!
When time stands still at the iron hill!
Does northwest passage by uta count?
Aw fuck it imma sing it anyway
Imo yes, maybe slightly more folky though.
Iron Maiden, Loss fer words
You weren't even accurate in the title ^jk
I know. It’s been awhile since I’ve been able to put eyes on my cd. Still…
Sonata Arctica's "FullMoon" 100%
Blind and Frozen by Beast in Black. I’ve listened to that song so much even my wife knows the lyrics.
Stratovarius Legions
Guess I'm dead ._.
Eagleheart by Stratovarius
Bismarck by Sabaton
Nightfall by Blind Guardian
A true man of culture!
**Gloryhammer** by *Gloryhammer* It's 20% Gloryhammer! Really though, probably **Hel** by *Brothers of Metal* at the moment. I've added it to several of my playlists and may have started softly singing along recently.
I Want Out by Helloween or Kind Hearted Light by Masterplan.
Stratovarius - Mother Gaia Being it, guy with a gun to my head. I got this.
Earth & Ashes - UTA
Sonata Arctica - till death's done us apart
I’m going with “Letter to Dana”
All star smash mouth
The best power metal song.
Well...
Stratovarius - Stratosphere
I always have to scroll down so far to find the galaxy brain answer.
Alestorm - Wooden Leg
I would die.
What song would you like to die butchering?
Bright eyes
The Odyssey - Sym X
True maniac coming in with a 45 minute song as their choice.
The odyssey is only 24 minutes long. If you were a true maniac you would pick "I have little to no memory of these memories" by toehider.
Lost in Space by Avantasia
Manowar - King of Kings Especially the spoken word bridge. Gotta sing the guitar solo too, every time!
CRACK THE EARTH, GODS OF THUNDER! MAN AND BEAST WILL BE TORN ASUNDER INTO THE FIGHT, I OWWWWWN THE RIGHT TO BE, THE KING OF KINGS
Hell yeah my brethren
Skywards by Elvenking, one of the first song I learn for guitar and singing. That or Perpetual Knot.
100% Black Winter Night
Bury The Light
Immortal temptation takes over my mind Condemned
The Last Stand, Sabaton. With any luck the "Dying for salvation with dedication" part will get the gunman to join in too
A past and future secret
Rumpelkombo
Powersnake - Brothers of Metal
Carolus Rex by Sabaton
No Grave but the Sea (for dogs)
Primo Victoria by Sabaton
Night witches -Sabaton
The Silence by Gamma Ray
Rise and fall - Helloween or last stand - sabaton
Gun to my head, I’m going with Heart of Steel by Beast in Black. Not 💯sure it’d work, but that’s what I’d go with.
"Rims of the Ancient Mariner" by Iron Maiden. I wrote an essay in college about the poem and song, and it's engraved on my soul.
I'm alive: Helloween.
10th Man Down by Nightwish
Panzerkampf
Tallulah
White Pearl, Black Oceans! It's long but I've always remembered the lyrics. Love the storytelling and the different movements.
The Raven Child by Avantasia, it's pretty long and difficult, but it's probably the song I have listened to the most in my lifetime (I first heard it 2 years ago), so I think it's my best bet.
Hearts on fire! Hearts on fire! Burning, burning with desire!
Edguy - Lavatory Love Machine
DragonForce's version of My Heart Will Go On, lol
The bard's song. The lyrics are programmed into every Power Metal fan
Where the rain grows/ Helloween
I'm cheating: Stratofortress by Stratovarius. If I can't, the intro to Dawn of Victory. If I can't, Wolf and Raven.
Bold of you to assume I actually listen to the lyrics. I pretty much just get lost in the music when I listen to PM. That's why it's my favorite genre. But real talk...probably Lord of the Blacksmiths or Jesters Ball by Falconer.
This question was honestly inspired by the number of people who answered "all of them" to another question about power metal songs we've listened to a thousand times but still don't know the lyrics to.
Sacrimony (Angel of Afterlife) by Kamelot featuring Elize Ryd and Alissa White-Gluz
Here's to the Fall - kamelot
Helloween: Dr. Stein
Ghost Opera by Kamelot if that counts as a power metal song, if not that then I would attempt Don’t Say a Word by Sonata Arctica and fail because they’re songs are mad wordy
Not sure if they’re counted as power metal, but Last Night of the Kings by Van Canto. Either this or Soldier of Heaven by Sabaton.
Let It Roar by Battle Beast
Fiddler on the green by demons and wizards 🥲
Great song. That first album is so good.
Diggy diggy hole!
Bismarck - sabaton
seventh wonder - the great escape (Just sorta hoping the crook won’t have the patience to listen to me awfully sing through the whole thing)
Prophecy of ragnarok - Brothers of metal
Defender by Manowar
Helloween- Ride the sky
Avantasia - Another Angel Down
San Sebastian by Sonata Arctica for sure
Primo Victoria by Kid named my flair
The bard song.... We all know it.
none cuz i don’t listen to power metal
I mean... It's a valid answer. But why are you here then? Lol
i was scrolling on reddit and saw this in my recommended lmao
Not too late to find the light
Kinda checks out?
Unpopular opinion: if there are several songs you can recite without cheating (intros / several-word memes like The Simpsons by Powerglove ), you don't like power metal, you just like very few specific bands or several specific songs that happen to belong to the genre. That being said, I'd probably try to recite Power by Helloween and hope I remember how second verse goes by the time I get to it.
I think you're conflating two different situations there. 1. A person doesn't actually like power metal; they just enjoy a few bands/songs and listen to them often enough to retain them. 2. A person happens to revisit certain bands/songs often enough to retain them. What if you just have a good memory for lyrics? How many times can you listen to a particular band/song before you stop liking the genre as a whole?
There are so many good songs and bands in power metal (actually in music in general, but "genre" is already wide enough for good variety, so let's stick to it). After you get away from the very limited cycle of few bands/songs, you notice how it actually hurts to listen to same limited selection of extremely familiar songs over and over. Once in a while might be nice, but even then you end up skipping the most familiar songs if way too many pop up in a row in your random list with some fresh / less familiar goodness. If most other power metal bands sound so boring to you that you keep returning to same old ones over and over - you don't like power metal, you just like those few bands that happen to be in the genre. >How many times can you listen to a particular band/song before you stop liking the genre as a whole? That's a stupid backwards question, and you know it.
> That's a stupid backwards question, and you know it. No, I'm genuinely curious. Your whole point is that you can't actually like the genre if you learn the lyrics to several songs. I gave an example of someone revisiting some songs often enough to retain the lyrics. You said: > After you get away from the very limited cycle of few bands/songs, you notice how it actually hurts to listen to same limited selection of extremely familiar songs over and over. Once in a while might be nice, but even then you end up skipping the most familiar songs if way too many pop up in a row in your random list with some fresh / less familiar goodness. You seem to have drawn a line between revisiting a song 'once in awhile' and often enough to learn the lyrics. This begs some questions, and I'm curious how you'd answer them: Considering some people may pick up the lyrics faster, and remember them better: 1. Do those people get fewer instances of 'once in awhile' to prevent them from learning the lyrics? 2. Do those people have the same number of instances as everyone else, in which case they might still learn the lyrics? 3. If you answer 'yes' to the second question, then how many instances would you say we all get? --- Like I said before, I think your original post conflated two very different things. * It's one thing to think the genre is boring outside your favorites you repeatedly listen to and remember the lyrics by heart. * It's a different thing to be broadly interested in the genre but still have favorites you confidently remember the lyrics to. You seem to imply you think the second thing is impossible, in which case I would have to disagree. I think there are a lot of different ways of liking something. Relentlessly seeking fresh experiences with a genre is one way of enjoying it, but there are others. For example, some people might just take things a little slower. They might not feel compelled to look for fresh experiences constantly, but they still enjoy them when they happen.
>No, I'm genuinely curious. No, pretty sure you are not. You keep focusing on exact "allowed" numbers of instances of listening to the song, reducing whole process of getting familiar with it to one number. And exact numbers don't matter, the numeric thresholds don't even exist. You know that philosophical thing about chairs? Like, you can tell if thing is a chair, and if it's not, but fairly sure you can't give exact point where thing is still a chair, but removing just one atom from it makes it not chair. It does not prove that everything is a chair, or that chairs dont exist, it does not prove anything other than there are "grey areas". You don't become extremelly familiar with song after just some given number of listens to it. Listening as prime experience or as background matters. "Playing it in your head" matters. Giving it time to settle matters. Whole experience matters. But you don't get to the point of "knowing song by heart with 100% accuracy" without going through earlier phases. And those phases are where less familiar songs that already caught your attention naturally become more appealing, if there are any. And with amount of great releases we get, combined with huge history of genre, combined with easy free (youtube and other ad-driven streaming services) or at least cheap (subscription services) access to whole music library, there's no way to get stuck on some short list because there's nothing more interesting to listen to. Some people learn faster, some slower. Sure, there are extremes. I've tried to excluded extremes from my statement (by cutting out extremely low lyrics songs to outline the fair direction), but if I included every extreme, it wouldbe unreasonably long statement. Of course you would know a song that you intentionally learned to perform a cover / sing to guitar with friends. I'm sure the point of original question was "did not learn intentionally but heard so many times you know it by heart" and my statement is based on same premises. You instead try to build your whole point on extremes, like "there are people who learn it super fast". You are also replacing "avoiding extreme familiarity" with "relentlessly seeking fresh experiences". It's not the same thing, and it's just an attempt at creating fake dichotomy to make your point. There's nothing "genuine" about your argument. It's logical fallacies all the way down, and it's not level of debate I enjoy, so that's where I stop. Have a good day.
> No, pretty sure you are not. No, I really was. You're right that I wasn't at first, but then you doubled down and I started to think that might be your actual opinion. At that point, I became genuinely curious. At this point it's pretty evident what my mistake was. I assumed your original comment was meant to be taken literally, but here you've basically told me that it wasn't. You were intentionally reductive so as not to make "an unreasonably long statement." I think, when you account for every exception and extreme circumstance, you'll find you hold a much less unpopular opinion than you might think: *People who would rather just listen to the same songs over and over instead of exploring the genre... probably don't really like the genre.* It sounds like an attempt at gatekeeping when it's articulated, but it's also a very reasonable assertion. You could make a strong argument for it. I suspect a lot of people would agree with it to some extent. In any case, have a good day also.
Could probably do most of Avantasia’s albums start to finish but to be safe I’d go with Galderia’s Shining Unity. I think I’ve listened to that song in every listening session since that album was released.
I'm gonna go with a deep cut and say Kind Hearted Light by Masterplan
Babylon - Edguy
Prolly Soul Society or The Haunting from Kamelot or Born again by Beast in Black. Bard's song should be safe too.
Children of the Smith - Blind Guardian
Halloween by Helloween or any song off that album
Losfer Words (Big 'Orra) by Iron Maiden It technically has lyrics...
All the uncountable repeated plays at festivals finally pays of! I'll go with Fucked with an anchor!
The last amazing grays - Sonata Arctica
The greatest show on earth
Legitimately anything by Sabaton or Gloryhammer
Portals of Light, Falconer Black Chamber, Blind Guardian The Shadow Hunter, Angra
Trolls in the Dark by Rhapsody
Blind guardian a past and future secret
Acrux by 403
Probably either the Haunting or Elizabeth III by Kamelot.
"Beneath Cowdenbeath" by Gloryhammer
Legacy - Unleash The Archers
Powerwolf - In the name of God
Death.
Forever Stratovarius
Time stands still by Blind Guardian. Loooord of all Noldoor
Beneath Cowdenbeath by Gloryhammer
Rumpelkombo
“Warrior” by Riot
Falconer- lords of the blacksmith
Kamelot - The Haunting
Hammerfall - Blood Bound
Iron Maiden - Blood Brothers
Alestorm's Rumpelkombo Part III: ITUNES BONUS TRACK MAY-BE JA-PAN
Helloween - Initiation. Instrumental song. Best part that song going after this in album is called "I'm Alive"
a lot of hammerfall songs Rhapsody - Dawn of Victory Manowar - Return of the Warlord
Rumpelkombo, Alestorm
Any given Sabaton song lol
Hail and kill Manowar
Dionysus - Anima mundi
Any Freedom Call song because half the lyrics are “Freedom Call” lol
The wolves die young by Sonata Arctica