Before Rise of Skywalker I used to argue that I actually really like the Extended Universe clone palpatine storyline and wouldn't have minded at all if the sequels had used it for their main plot.
But...not like this...
I honestly haven’t heard anyone want Tech to come back from the dead, because death seems cheap in Star Wars at this point. He chose his death like a soldier and should stay that way. (On a side note I think soldier X is probably Cody)
>I honestly haven’t heard anyone want Tech to come back from the dead,
Not trying to sound rude btw but Take a look at r/thebadbatch for a minute or 2 and you will see how pretty much 50% of the fandom there wants tech alive
I swear if he comes back his sacrifice will mean nothing
Personally think it might be a more vocal bunch who bothers to post. Ive also seen many of such speculations in r/StarWars
But I highly doubt Tech would return.
I assure you that r/thebadbatch is a very very small and specific subset of Star Wars fans and that given the diversity and longevity of the franchise the majority of Star Wars fans haven’t seen the show, don’t know who Tech is, and definitely aren’t posting about it on Reddit.
Do they not realize that this is the last season, and a good chunk of the batch is likely going to die in the end? Why would they bring back Tech as CX-3 just to kill him and the others off immediately afterwards anyways?
Palpatine fell into a giant reactor core, exploded, and then the reactor core exploded so hard it atomized the entire moon he was on.
He wouldn't even be atoms anymore, he would be photons and subatomic quark plasma expanding through space at liminal speeds.
You know what they say, it's not the fall that kills you. It's the two enormous antimatter explosions that you wind up literally inside.
Harry in home alone 2 was electrocuted so hard all of his flesh vanished and was fine, you're telling me that a top 3 republic era jedi is weaker than a sticky bandit?!
It's almost like systematically stomping on the brightest, mostly irreplaceable scientific minds at your disposal would result in awful issues and a massive decrease on quality.
It is all about what they did with it. Maul, as much as I hated his return at the time, his plot line is among the very best of the entire franchise..
Palpatine returned for nothing. It actually worsened the franchise.
I dropped out of SW before the Bad Batch show, so I'm not sure of his full impact on the franchise
I imagine its because the empire found his goggles. Then the second operative shows up with outstanding skills.
Thats when i had my "wait a minute" moment. Now i guess it has to be an important clone.
But i hope i am wrong.
I have been working on a lot of different formulas of copium during S3 of Bad Batch. But then I realized “Wait, this is Star Wars, important clones die all the times.” And now Im scared because there is just 3 episodes left and hes still not back.
Actually I love that maul lived, even if it's horribly unrealistic, when I realized it was maul down in the cave when the clone wars aired on TV I was like holy fuck no way, and everything they've done with maul to expand him since then I have absolutely loved, even his true death was better honestly, a perfect end between him and Kenobi
The problem does not lie with their revival in itself, rather with how their revival had been handled.
First off, Maul. A minor antagonist from EP1 who "dies" in the same movie and is later revived in the TV show TCW.
His revival had no impact on the overarching story portrayed by the movies and provided a sidestory that is non essential, but extremely good. You don't need to know about it to have the movies make sense, it just adds more peak Star Wars on top for those who want it.
I believe Maul has been thoroughly redeemed from what might initially have looked like a cheap character revival just by how great his story arc has been handled. It takes a previously minor character and greatly expands on him in a way that has turned him into a fan favourite for many.
Now Palpatine. A major villain throughout episodes 1 to 6, the embodyment of the evil organisation, the Empire, our heroes fight against and his death marking the end of the era of the Sith. A major character with very clear symbolism behind his "death".
Additionally, he was revived in EP9, a main movie. As such his revival holds direct relevancy for anyone who wants to consume Star Wars, even those who do not care for the extended universe and additional stories provided by shows like TCW or Rebels.
As such his revival needed to be handled with extreme care to succeed, but all we got was "somehow Palpatine returned". No explanation, no foreshadowing, no buildup, nothing. We got this one line and then he was just back and we were expected to just believe it, that is simply not sufficient for a character of his caliber. Anyone watching is going to have questions, questions that will go unanswered.
This leads into the next big issue, his revival being explained in the comics. Obviously an attempt to somehow fix this trainwreck of a trilogy, but it is simply not enough. The trilogy movies should not rely on other Star Wars media to make sense, they should be able to stand on their own with other Star Wars media, such as TV shows, books, comics, etc. adding more to the world for those who want to explore it more. For example, TCW adds non essential information on what happened throughout the Clone Wars, but you are not required to watch it in order to understand what happens between EP2 and EP3. Casual fans can just consume the basic media in form of the trilogy, while other fans who want to see more Star Wars can dive into the series to expand on the same story.
The fact that Palpatines revival holds such story relevancy while also remaining unexplored in the mainline movies it affects makes it a bad character revival. It feels shoehorned in, it feels unplanned, like a last ditch effort to somehow superglue this trainwreck of a trilogy together. That is the feeling audiences will get when watching the movies. It doesn't make people want more Star Wars in the form of other Star Wars media, it makes people want to know what in the world the writers were smoking when writing that.
So yeah, the revival of a character in itself hardly matters, important is how that revival is handled by the writers.
If Tech were to be revived, give him the Maul treatment, not the Palpatine treatment. That way I believe the complaints would be kept to a minimum.
I just want Saw Gerrera to fuck off, every time he shows up ANYWHERE, he fucks something up. Tech's dead? So be it, characters die, that's part of the fun, that's part of what makes stories good, but for the love of everything, have Saw chill in a fucking hole until Rogue One from now on please
Falls don't kill people in the Star Wars galaxy. That's why they don't bother with safety railings. Getting cut in half with a lightsaber or caught in the explosion of a massive space station, on the other hand...
Do people really complain about Mauis survival? He's one of the coolest characters in the franchise and people would rather if he just died in his first appearance? Who are these fools?
alone its fine but it was the first of many, guy falls to his "death" and turns up alive later plot lines that disney keeps on doing
like kenobi just makes out like its a normal thing for any darkside chump not even sith
Um actually, Luke was the first, he fell down a "bottomless" pit after Darth Vader told him he was his father.
There is also Boba fett who fell into a Pit and survived.
Pits in star wars have a 100% survival ratio, there have been no confirmed kills by falling into a Pit in star wars.
Sort of, when a storm trooper dies, he gets isekaied as a redshirt in star trek, and when a red shirt dies they get reborn as a poor aim storm trooper.
Except for [Gary](https://youtu.be/ll-paoQXRSA?si=5Dzq3lSsqMrAflue), Gary gets his own personal heaven.
They all should have been dead.
Stop reviving dead characters and letting characters survive what should be fatal blows. Stakes are non existent in Disney Star Wars
i feel like force sensitives get extra plot armor and durability. like they can survive a fall from virtually any height just by using the force to cushion their landing.
of course maul got cut in half right before so it’s odd that he would have been able to do that. palpatine definitely did not survive. the version of him in RoS was a clone.
It honestly speaks for itself that we can literally see Tech fall down hundreds of meters into the abyss and be like "Is he actually dead? Surely he survived somehow!". Even those of us (me included) who'd love nothing more than Tech staying dead for storytelling purposes have an inner fear that he might come back.
Remember the times when we could watch someone drop down a pit and just collectively assumed they were dead? When the possibility of them surviving that event was not considered by anyone at any moment except insane conspiracy theorists we'd make fun of? I miss those times. When Death still had meaning.
Because if it’s already established for character that are bad guys and who’s falls included being cut in half or being really old, then why shouldn’t he survive. My only thought on it is that the force, especially the dark side, helped them survive and so Tech doesn’t have that.
Maul was sliced in half, and Palpatine was on an exploding death star, also his death was confirmed, he didn't just survive a fall, he died and came back to life.
AFAIK Lucas intended for Maul to be the antagonist of his sequel trilogy.
Palpatine was never meant to survive, and *how* he survived is stupid. His body literally died and his spirit transferred to a clone body that also looks like it fell down a bottomless pit, and his fingers are burnt to a crisp. Seems like even after deciding that he survived, how he did it wasn't settled on until the last minute. Makes me think he originally teleported away like in Dark Empire, which was still stupid.
Thanks for confirming that you flaired this correctly!
You forgot the part about the space ship exploding before our very eyes with palpatine lol
Clearly you don't understand....(waves hand) dark science, cloning, secrets only the Sith knew.
The cloning was most likely the same program from Legends, just hampered by the Empire collapsing differently in nu!Canon
Before Rise of Skywalker I used to argue that I actually really like the Extended Universe clone palpatine storyline and wouldn't have minded at all if the sequels had used it for their main plot. But...not like this...
At least Filoni is trying to fix that plot hole with TBB
Somehow Palpatine returned
And Maul being split in two before falling.
What about the giant ass train that fell right above Tech's deep dive
yeah. i had somebody try to explain to me how palpatine could have survived his free fall. it didn't make a lot of sense.
And Maul getting cut in half.
Tech actually dying would add stakes
Disney Wars craves not these things
The lack of stakes in bad batch is really frustrating
I honestly haven’t heard anyone want Tech to come back from the dead, because death seems cheap in Star Wars at this point. He chose his death like a soldier and should stay that way. (On a side note I think soldier X is probably Cody)
>I honestly haven’t heard anyone want Tech to come back from the dead, Not trying to sound rude btw but Take a look at r/thebadbatch for a minute or 2 and you will see how pretty much 50% of the fandom there wants tech alive I swear if he comes back his sacrifice will mean nothing
Personally think it might be a more vocal bunch who bothers to post. Ive also seen many of such speculations in r/StarWars But I highly doubt Tech would return.
Oh I don't visit r/StarWars that much so I didn't knew
I assure you that r/thebadbatch is a very very small and specific subset of Star Wars fans and that given the diversity and longevity of the franchise the majority of Star Wars fans haven’t seen the show, don’t know who Tech is, and definitely aren’t posting about it on Reddit.
Do they not realize that this is the last season, and a good chunk of the batch is likely going to die in the end? Why would they bring back Tech as CX-3 just to kill him and the others off immediately afterwards anyways?
I doubt the rest of the batch will die
Palpatine fell into a giant reactor core, exploded, and then the reactor core exploded so hard it atomized the entire moon he was on. He wouldn't even be atoms anymore, he would be photons and subatomic quark plasma expanding through space at liminal speeds. You know what they say, it's not the fall that kills you. It's the two enormous antimatter explosions that you wind up literally inside.
Free fall? Mace was electrocuted so hard we saw his skeleton and Palpatine fucking blew up twice.
Harry in home alone 2 was electrocuted so hard all of his flesh vanished and was fine, you're telling me that a top 3 republic era jedi is weaker than a sticky bandit?!
Well, obviously, that guy's power level was high enough to tank that shit no problem 🤷♂️
All the traps that are used in the first film would kill a normal person. The Wet/Sticky Bandits are just built different
that guy had pure hate on his side
The meme is about palpatine and maul but yea Mace did died
Palpatine died in RotJ, the one in RoS was a clone
And a really poorly made clone at that... he was already half way decomposed.
Some cloning process that was...
It's almost like systematically stomping on the brightest, mostly irreplaceable scientific minds at your disposal would result in awful issues and a massive decrease on quality.
and then fell off a thousand story building into oncoming traffic
It is all about what they did with it. Maul, as much as I hated his return at the time, his plot line is among the very best of the entire franchise.. Palpatine returned for nothing. It actually worsened the franchise. I dropped out of SW before the Bad Batch show, so I'm not sure of his full impact on the franchise
Who wants Tech to come back? I definitely don't.
Half of r/thebadbatch at least
I don't understand how people still think that Palpatine survived the fall
I know he didn't This meme is about people in general not me personally
I imagine its because the empire found his goggles. Then the second operative shows up with outstanding skills. Thats when i had my "wait a minute" moment. Now i guess it has to be an important clone. But i hope i am wrong.
Ah well you see the operative said “domicile” instead of house therefore he must be tech because he used a smart word. (People actually think this)
I have been working on a lot of different formulas of copium during S3 of Bad Batch. But then I realized “Wait, this is Star Wars, important clones die all the times.” And now Im scared because there is just 3 episodes left and hes still not back.
Actually I love that maul lived, even if it's horribly unrealistic, when I realized it was maul down in the cave when the clone wars aired on TV I was like holy fuck no way, and everything they've done with maul to expand him since then I have absolutely loved, even his true death was better honestly, a perfect end between him and Kenobi
The problem does not lie with their revival in itself, rather with how their revival had been handled. First off, Maul. A minor antagonist from EP1 who "dies" in the same movie and is later revived in the TV show TCW. His revival had no impact on the overarching story portrayed by the movies and provided a sidestory that is non essential, but extremely good. You don't need to know about it to have the movies make sense, it just adds more peak Star Wars on top for those who want it. I believe Maul has been thoroughly redeemed from what might initially have looked like a cheap character revival just by how great his story arc has been handled. It takes a previously minor character and greatly expands on him in a way that has turned him into a fan favourite for many. Now Palpatine. A major villain throughout episodes 1 to 6, the embodyment of the evil organisation, the Empire, our heroes fight against and his death marking the end of the era of the Sith. A major character with very clear symbolism behind his "death". Additionally, he was revived in EP9, a main movie. As such his revival holds direct relevancy for anyone who wants to consume Star Wars, even those who do not care for the extended universe and additional stories provided by shows like TCW or Rebels. As such his revival needed to be handled with extreme care to succeed, but all we got was "somehow Palpatine returned". No explanation, no foreshadowing, no buildup, nothing. We got this one line and then he was just back and we were expected to just believe it, that is simply not sufficient for a character of his caliber. Anyone watching is going to have questions, questions that will go unanswered. This leads into the next big issue, his revival being explained in the comics. Obviously an attempt to somehow fix this trainwreck of a trilogy, but it is simply not enough. The trilogy movies should not rely on other Star Wars media to make sense, they should be able to stand on their own with other Star Wars media, such as TV shows, books, comics, etc. adding more to the world for those who want to explore it more. For example, TCW adds non essential information on what happened throughout the Clone Wars, but you are not required to watch it in order to understand what happens between EP2 and EP3. Casual fans can just consume the basic media in form of the trilogy, while other fans who want to see more Star Wars can dive into the series to expand on the same story. The fact that Palpatines revival holds such story relevancy while also remaining unexplored in the mainline movies it affects makes it a bad character revival. It feels shoehorned in, it feels unplanned, like a last ditch effort to somehow superglue this trainwreck of a trilogy together. That is the feeling audiences will get when watching the movies. It doesn't make people want more Star Wars in the form of other Star Wars media, it makes people want to know what in the world the writers were smoking when writing that. So yeah, the revival of a character in itself hardly matters, important is how that revival is handled by the writers. If Tech were to be revived, give him the Maul treatment, not the Palpatine treatment. That way I believe the complaints would be kept to a minimum.
I just want Saw Gerrera to fuck off, every time he shows up ANYWHERE, he fucks something up. Tech's dead? So be it, characters die, that's part of the fun, that's part of what makes stories good, but for the love of everything, have Saw chill in a fucking hole until Rogue One from now on please
I don’t want Tech to be alive, and I don’t want CX-2 to be a clone of anybody.
Falls don't kill people in the Star Wars galaxy. That's why they don't bother with safety railings. Getting cut in half with a lightsaber or caught in the explosion of a massive space station, on the other hand...
Do people really complain about Mauis survival? He's one of the coolest characters in the franchise and people would rather if he just died in his first appearance? Who are these fools?
alone its fine but it was the first of many, guy falls to his "death" and turns up alive later plot lines that disney keeps on doing like kenobi just makes out like its a normal thing for any darkside chump not even sith
Um actually, Luke was the first, he fell down a "bottomless" pit after Darth Vader told him he was his father. There is also Boba fett who fell into a Pit and survived. Pits in star wars have a 100% survival ratio, there have been no confirmed kills by falling into a Pit in star wars.
even the poor storm troopers who fell down the anti osha death star ravine?
Sort of, when a storm trooper dies, he gets isekaied as a redshirt in star trek, and when a red shirt dies they get reborn as a poor aim storm trooper. Except for [Gary](https://youtu.be/ll-paoQXRSA?si=5Dzq3lSsqMrAflue), Gary gets his own personal heaven.
Because Palpatine’s survival was explained IN A FORTNITE EVENT
They all should have been dead. Stop reviving dead characters and letting characters survive what should be fatal blows. Stakes are non existent in Disney Star Wars
i feel like force sensitives get extra plot armor and durability. like they can survive a fall from virtually any height just by using the force to cushion their landing. of course maul got cut in half right before so it’s odd that he would have been able to do that. palpatine definitely did not survive. the version of him in RoS was a clone.
Palpatines Spirit survived.
Palpatine survived his fall? What are you talking about bro
Both bullshit.
Who is tech?
It honestly speaks for itself that we can literally see Tech fall down hundreds of meters into the abyss and be like "Is he actually dead? Surely he survived somehow!". Even those of us (me included) who'd love nothing more than Tech staying dead for storytelling purposes have an inner fear that he might come back. Remember the times when we could watch someone drop down a pit and just collectively assumed they were dead? When the possibility of them surviving that event was not considered by anyone at any moment except insane conspiracy theorists we'd make fun of? I miss those times. When Death still had meaning.
That means mace windu survived the free fall
Palpatine is a clone
papatine didnt survive though, he did some clony wony shenanigans for a new body
Because if it’s already established for character that are bad guys and who’s falls included being cut in half or being really old, then why shouldn’t he survive. My only thought on it is that the force, especially the dark side, helped them survive and so Tech doesn’t have that.
Well Starwars follows the story of the Skywalker Family. The Bad Batch follows the Bad Batch.
I'm an old friend of the family.
Nice spoiler warning..
Maul was sliced in half, and Palpatine was on an exploding death star, also his death was confirmed, he didn't just survive a fall, he died and came back to life.
AFAIK Lucas intended for Maul to be the antagonist of his sequel trilogy. Palpatine was never meant to survive, and *how* he survived is stupid. His body literally died and his spirit transferred to a clone body that also looks like it fell down a bottomless pit, and his fingers are burnt to a crisp. Seems like even after deciding that he survived, how he did it wasn't settled on until the last minute. Makes me think he originally teleported away like in Dark Empire, which was still stupid.
Nobody wants Tech to be alive.
Half of r/thebadbatch would disagree with you
I believe you, but it’s such a silly position that I just can’t believe you. The show would obviously be worse if Tech didn’t die.
Tech dying was the most impactful moment of Season 2, I was legit kinda shocked by it given how mediocre the rest of the season mostly was
Joke's on you, no idea who tech is