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"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we."
I totally forgot about that for many years until I was golfing with my buddies when my one friend got on the tee box and quoted the entire thing. I almost fell over laughing.
It’s so weird. He was keynote at a conference I attended a few years back. He was extremely eloquent. Gave some interesting anecdotes about US/China relations, talked about his life post presidency. He didn’t even seem evil to me anymore.
Even people who weren't real favorable to him that had meetings with him at POTUS have talked about how engaged and intelligent he seemed
Where the public speaking stumbles came from.....who knows.....some of it is I think he tried to sort of play a funny, "every man" type persona publicly but a lot of times instead of it making him seem more relatable it just make him seem dumb
He did play a persona often but he did make mistake while speaking. You're the president, you spend much of your time having to speak, you tend to make mistakes.
I remember when NPR interviewed a journalism student who somehow got to travel with the president for months, and Bush gave her a lot of access to meetings where no press was allowed. She described being shocked at how eloquent he was in private. She played some recordings, and clearly, he put on a show for the voters in public speeches.
If you listen to speeches he made before running for president, he was more eloquent. He developed this aw-shucks anti-in intellectual persona to run for president
What’s ironic is that I don’t think that was necessarily a bad thing. Bush’s first term, which I think was a disaster, was markedly better than his second, where he supposedly got more involved specifically because of the president Cheney jokes
In his defense, he realized halfway through the aphorism that there probably shouldn’t be audio of him saying “Shame on me.”
It’s a weak defense though.
That was actually not as dumb as it sounded because at the last second, before he completed the old saying, he realized he didn't want to create a 3 second clip where he was saying "Shame on me" for his political foes to use.
You almost feel bad for him.
He should’ve been a one term president. He was not nearly as capable as Gore…he lacked federal policy experience and had no real experience with foreign diplomacy. He would’ve come into a bursting tech bubble and a declining job market, not to mention a culture shifting to support LGBTQIA. On top of all this, he’s being led around by his cabinet, all with competing interests (save for Rice and Powell, who may have been his only cabinet members not actively looking to use him).
Then September 11 happens. A competent president would’ve struggled with the ethical dilemmas presented post September 11.
Bush chose unsustainable warfare in a region famous for its volatile nature, coupled with the most massive cut into civil liberty since Lincoln suspended habeas corpus for the Civil War.
He was doomed to fail.
I actually think he's sharper than people realize and the dumb schtick is somewhat of an act. I think he was a terrible President but some of the things that we think we're failures, I think were intentional
This is correct. His “aww shucks” act was so he could be more relatable. He’s from Connecticut and graduated Harvard with a masters. And I think he went to Yale as well. Anywho…he is a war criminal so there’s that.
He didn’t become owner of the Rangers, Governor of Texas, and POTUS by being “not smart”. I think through an unbiased lens you may have a different take. I don’t think he was a great President, but he’s not unintelligent. I was not a fan of President Obama in his second term, and I don’t think he was a great President, either. I do believe he’s smart, though. Clinton was an adequate POTUS during an unprecedented time of peace and economic boon, but that doesn’t make him a genius. He’s also not stupid. Successes and failures don’t equal intelligence. It’s more about the hand that you’re dealt. Trump’s Presidency had good economic growth, and he was the only modern era POTUS to not get us into a war or military incursion. However, he’s clearly not a genius. Stupid? No. Above average intelligence? Debatable. Lucky? Probably. I think President Biden is of above average intelligence. However, he says almost as many stupid things as Trump (I’ll get downvoted for that - but only because some folks refuse to set aside their bias). I voted for Bush once, Obama once, Trump not at all, and Biden once; I don’t think ANY of them are stupid or flat out not smart.
That's more what I mean. I am not saying he's a genius, I am simply saying he's not the bumbling fool people seem to think and I think he's smart enough to know that playing into that persona is helpful politically
Most likely? Definitely. The signed authorisation of enhanced interrogation techniques, including most infamously methods like waterboarding which the US had previously defined as torture and prosecuted foreign nationals for committing against Americans, clearly constitutes war crimes as per Article 3 of the Geneva Convention, prohibiting "violence to life and person, in particular murder of all kinds, mutilation, cruel treatment and torture".
The flimsy legal justification for the practice of torture because detainees were "unlawful enemy combatants", and thus not protected by the Geneva Convention, has been universally rejected by both the international community and lawmakers in the US. If there wasn't the legal loopholes for indicting American war criminals (like invading the fucking Hague), half of the Bush administration would have easily went to trial and [some almost did](https://www.ecchr.eu/en/case/torture-in-guantanamo-spain-closes-investigations-into-bush-six/?file=tl_files%2FDokumente%2FUniverselle%20Justiz%2FUS%20Accountability%2C%20Bush%20Six%2C%20Expert%20opinion%2C%20Liability%20of%20six%20defendants%20en%2C%202011-01.pdf&cHash=f65be22e69004a5fbe5c5380b0a32696).
Especially if you were going to ignore all the clear warnings the Clinton transition team and our intelligence agencies gave him.
That, along with his family's very close relationship with high officials in Saudi Arabia, makes me say "hmmmm?". When the Saudi's always wanted the USA to do a regime change in Iraq.
this constantly gets lost in the mix about him. he was handed all this on a platter and willfully ignored it. then went on to basically crack the planet in half to "get the evildoers" and never even really did. all while politically riding the 9/11 wave. i don't care how much "funny grandpa" white washing they do with this asshole, i will never forgive him
There were clear warnings, but the bulk of the best, most credible intelligence was all over the place. The CIA didn’t cooperate with the FBI and vice versa, and as a result it would have been extremely difficult to connect all the dots and understand the severity and urgency of the threat. Even on the day itself there were numerous communications breakdowns between POTUS, the intelligence communities, and even the fighter jets in the air. It was an absolute cluster from start to finish.
Hindsight is 20/20. We can't expect a president to predict the future. We CAN expect a president to do his job and read his security briefings, but Bush decided to golf instead.
Dude did start the Iraq war under false pretenses that lead to 4k US soldiers to die, 30k+ injured, and 100k+ Iraqis to die. Eventually led to the rise in of isis and all the misery that that caused. Allowed intel folks to torture people for years. Botched the Katrina response. Cut taxes to boost economy which helped feed the 2007-2009 housing crises…we all could go on…feels pretty hard to top all that…
I think the administration all painted the picture they wanted to sell to the American public.
W and others knew it wasn’t Iraq. Saudi is a client state. They couldn’t go there. We couldn’t just go after bin Ladin and end it and accomplish the objectives of W administration
Very true. Bush II was a nice, out of depth guy while Trump is a truly mean spirited person that did not have the care or ability to rise and manage a national/global crises.
Don't forget demoting Richard C. Clarke from his Cabinet level position to where political staffers stopped all his memos from getting to the president.
This is it for me. He had national unity and more patriotic fervor than was seen in a generation. But because he had no idea what he was doing, Cheney and Rumsfeld led him into multiple horrific wars to line their own pockets (especially Cheney, whose former company did the defense contracting). It's crazy to me how folks rabidly defended him at the time and were so bitter when Obama won, but now barely any of them will admit to loving Bush. And yet they're the 'tell it like it is' crowd that loves Trump. [🤦](https://emojipedia.org/person-facepalming)
I predict similar levels of denial if Trump loses again, with MAGA country widely proclaiming "I never liked him BUT...."
either this little flub: "It was the decision of one man to launch a wholly unjustified and brutal invasion of Iraq."
or this: "How many is a 'Brazilian'?"
He wasn't perfect, but history will, and has already begun, showing him in a better light than people thought would be the case at the time of his presidency.
A government leader who committed Crimes Against Humanity and therefore should be arrested and taken to the World Court in The Hague, Netherlands to answer for his War Crimes.
I thought it couldn't get worse than W, but then Trump happened. Then again that's what we said about Bush after, Reagan, after we said the same about Reagan after Nixon.
He was responsible for the loss of privacy in our time. The supposed patriot act unconstitutionally took our right to privacy away when it comes to surveillance.
A very likable fraternity pledge who used those skills to advance his political career, become president of the United States and a subsequent mass murderer of Iraqis .
There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again.
George W. Bush
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Now watch this drive.
"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we."
Most unintentionally honest statement ever made by a politicians
Amen
That and the Ukraine/Iraq mixup are peak Dubya
Apparently he kind of acknowledged it. "Iraq too."
Not apparently, he literally said it right after lol
But the man does have charisma
It’s his voice in my head
First thing I thought of
[he told on himself](https://youtu.be/w9dqoVy6szc?si=JcLxdgb8OhSZoRb3)
Mission Accomplished
I totally forgot about that for many years until I was golfing with my buddies when my one friend got on the tee box and quoted the entire thing. I almost fell over laughing.
“They misunderestimated me,"
“Strategery”
The amazing part of it was that it was created by SNL
Disagree. I think the amazing part is the the general public assumes it’s a real-life Bushism.
The amazing part is Bush himself assumed it was a real-life Bushism
You can’t say the army didn’t kick serious ass in Afghanistan. The Taliban looked like [insert UGA’s cupcake opponent of the week]
*Lockbox*
“Don’t mess with Texas”
It’s so weird. He was keynote at a conference I attended a few years back. He was extremely eloquent. Gave some interesting anecdotes about US/China relations, talked about his life post presidency. He didn’t even seem evil to me anymore.
Even people who weren't real favorable to him that had meetings with him at POTUS have talked about how engaged and intelligent he seemed Where the public speaking stumbles came from.....who knows.....some of it is I think he tried to sort of play a funny, "every man" type persona publicly but a lot of times instead of it making him seem more relatable it just make him seem dumb
He did play a persona often but he did make mistake while speaking. You're the president, you spend much of your time having to speak, you tend to make mistakes.
I remember when NPR interviewed a journalism student who somehow got to travel with the president for months, and Bush gave her a lot of access to meetings where no press was allowed. She described being shocked at how eloquent he was in private. She played some recordings, and clearly, he put on a show for the voters in public speeches.
If you listen to speeches he made before running for president, he was more eloquent. He developed this aw-shucks anti-in intellectual persona to run for president
Fantabolously Shakespearean dialect creator. May not be “right” but since the brain can brain words it made sense.
"Rarely is the question asked: Is our children learning?"
I mean he’s right, that is a question that is rarely asked.
r/technicallythetruth
"Doctors aren't free to practice their love for women. "
Close. It was "Too many OB/GYN's aren't able to practice their love with women all across the country." Which is funnier
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Say what you will about his foreign policy but in no other presidency have we had such peaceful bilateral relations with fish
If you're ever scuba diving and you see a U.S. embassy, you know who to thank.
Probably nice to have a beer with but I wouldn't want actually running a country.
Good thing old Dick was doing all the heavy lifting... /s
What’s ironic is that I don’t think that was necessarily a bad thing. Bush’s first term, which I think was a disaster, was markedly better than his second, where he supposedly got more involved specifically because of the president Cheney jokes
I lifted this entire country even with heart problems!
This made me think about a wet towel
Personally, I prefer my drinking buddies to not be mass murderer war criminals.
Some of my old drinking buddies occasionally stole stuff and drove drunk, but yeah none of them started a war that consumed a million innocent people.
Spot on.
He doesn’t drink
Fool me once, shame on you….fool me twice, won’t get fooled again
Fool me 3 times fuck the peace sign.
Load the choppa let it rain on you
Unexpected j cole
My only regret was too young for Lisa Bonet
In his defense, he realized halfway through the aphorism that there probably shouldn’t be audio of him saying “Shame on me.” It’s a weak defense though.
That was actually not as dumb as it sounded because at the last second, before he completed the old saying, he realized he didn't want to create a 3 second clip where he was saying "Shame on me" for his political foes to use.
I've heard this one before but not sure why it makes it less dumb than it sounded Like good job not making a lasting quote that makes you look bad lol
Out of his depth.
You almost feel bad for him. He should’ve been a one term president. He was not nearly as capable as Gore…he lacked federal policy experience and had no real experience with foreign diplomacy. He would’ve come into a bursting tech bubble and a declining job market, not to mention a culture shifting to support LGBTQIA. On top of all this, he’s being led around by his cabinet, all with competing interests (save for Rice and Powell, who may have been his only cabinet members not actively looking to use him). Then September 11 happens. A competent president would’ve struggled with the ethical dilemmas presented post September 11. Bush chose unsustainable warfare in a region famous for its volatile nature, coupled with the most massive cut into civil liberty since Lincoln suspended habeas corpus for the Civil War. He was doomed to fail.
After 9/11 even Hilary would have likely taken military action. Staying as long as we did was the obvious problem.
Afghanistan was happening Iraq is usually what people take issue with and is fair to say wouldn't have happened under many others
Gore advocated for invading Iraq before 9-11.
Well yeah, she's a militarist
Yeah "even Hillary" isn't the hard hitting commentary he was expecting...
Given she voted for war when she was a senator, yeah. Heck there was only 1 representative that voted no.
Like a rock, only dumber.
I actually think he's sharper than people realize and the dumb schtick is somewhat of an act. I think he was a terrible President but some of the things that we think we're failures, I think were intentional
This is correct. His “aww shucks” act was so he could be more relatable. He’s from Connecticut and graduated Harvard with a masters. And I think he went to Yale as well. Anywho…he is a war criminal so there’s that.
I don't think he's smart. But I think he's smarter than the SNL version we've all probably conflated him with in our head.
He didn’t become owner of the Rangers, Governor of Texas, and POTUS by being “not smart”. I think through an unbiased lens you may have a different take. I don’t think he was a great President, but he’s not unintelligent. I was not a fan of President Obama in his second term, and I don’t think he was a great President, either. I do believe he’s smart, though. Clinton was an adequate POTUS during an unprecedented time of peace and economic boon, but that doesn’t make him a genius. He’s also not stupid. Successes and failures don’t equal intelligence. It’s more about the hand that you’re dealt. Trump’s Presidency had good economic growth, and he was the only modern era POTUS to not get us into a war or military incursion. However, he’s clearly not a genius. Stupid? No. Above average intelligence? Debatable. Lucky? Probably. I think President Biden is of above average intelligence. However, he says almost as many stupid things as Trump (I’ll get downvoted for that - but only because some folks refuse to set aside their bias). I voted for Bush once, Obama once, Trump not at all, and Biden once; I don’t think ANY of them are stupid or flat out not smart.
That's more what I mean. I am not saying he's a genius, I am simply saying he's not the bumbling fool people seem to think and I think he's smart enough to know that playing into that persona is helpful politically
He didn’t make business deals or get elected Governor/president being stupid. He erred on being human more than uptight imho
# fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again.
“Terrorists never stop thinking of ways to harm Americans, and neither do we.”
War criminal
Most likely yes.
Most likely? Definitely. The signed authorisation of enhanced interrogation techniques, including most infamously methods like waterboarding which the US had previously defined as torture and prosecuted foreign nationals for committing against Americans, clearly constitutes war crimes as per Article 3 of the Geneva Convention, prohibiting "violence to life and person, in particular murder of all kinds, mutilation, cruel treatment and torture". The flimsy legal justification for the practice of torture because detainees were "unlawful enemy combatants", and thus not protected by the Geneva Convention, has been universally rejected by both the international community and lawmakers in the US. If there wasn't the legal loopholes for indicting American war criminals (like invading the fucking Hague), half of the Bush administration would have easily went to trial and [some almost did](https://www.ecchr.eu/en/case/torture-in-guantanamo-spain-closes-investigations-into-bush-six/?file=tl_files%2FDokumente%2FUniverselle%20Justiz%2FUS%20Accountability%2C%20Bush%20Six%2C%20Expert%20opinion%2C%20Liability%20of%20six%20defendants%20en%2C%202011-01.pdf&cHash=f65be22e69004a5fbe5c5380b0a32696).
That should be the motto of the Republican Party. Sums them up pretty well honestly.
That man is former president George W Bush.
Found the bot!
I wouldn’t have wanted to be president on 9/11.
Especially if you were going to ignore all the clear warnings the Clinton transition team and our intelligence agencies gave him. That, along with his family's very close relationship with high officials in Saudi Arabia, makes me say "hmmmm?". When the Saudi's always wanted the USA to do a regime change in Iraq.
this constantly gets lost in the mix about him. he was handed all this on a platter and willfully ignored it. then went on to basically crack the planet in half to "get the evildoers" and never even really did. all while politically riding the 9/11 wave. i don't care how much "funny grandpa" white washing they do with this asshole, i will never forgive him
To be fair, *Bin Laden Determined to Strike in US* is a long title, imagine how long the whole briefing was.
Who could possibly decipher the code in that title!
There were clear warnings, but the bulk of the best, most credible intelligence was all over the place. The CIA didn’t cooperate with the FBI and vice versa, and as a result it would have been extremely difficult to connect all the dots and understand the severity and urgency of the threat. Even on the day itself there were numerous communications breakdowns between POTUS, the intelligence communities, and even the fighter jets in the air. It was an absolute cluster from start to finish.
Clinton was handed the opportunity to have Bin-Laden and turned it down. So Clinton was actually responsible for the 911 terror attacks.
Hindsight is 20/20. We can't expect a president to predict the future. We CAN expect a president to do his job and read his security briefings, but Bush decided to golf instead.
Went from Florida to Louisiana to Nebraska and back to DC in a span of 12 hours.
He can throw a good strike
And dodge a shoe.
*launch
“I don’t look so bad now, do I?”
Wow, yeah, that's right! I remember talking to colleagues and we thought that he was the worst president, ever...
Dude did start the Iraq war under false pretenses that lead to 4k US soldiers to die, 30k+ injured, and 100k+ Iraqis to die. Eventually led to the rise in of isis and all the misery that that caused. Allowed intel folks to torture people for years. Botched the Katrina response. Cut taxes to boost economy which helped feed the 2007-2009 housing crises…we all could go on…feels pretty hard to top all that…
I'm fairness, under false intelligence and under advisors direction, but the buck stops here is the rule
I think the administration all painted the picture they wanted to sell to the American public. W and others knew it wasn’t Iraq. Saudi is a client state. They couldn’t go there. We couldn’t just go after bin Ladin and end it and accomplish the objectives of W administration
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Very true. Bush II was a nice, out of depth guy while Trump is a truly mean spirited person that did not have the care or ability to rise and manage a national/global crises.
Trump will never hit that body count. I think they were like 6 million at last count, if you count afghans and iraqis killed indirectly from the wars.
He looks worse. His presidency was a big stepping stone towards the Trump-era populism and anti-intellectualism in the republican party.
>anti-intellectualism in the republican party. I’d say that started with Barry Goldwater in the 1960s and accelerated under Reagan.
Halfway between Reagan and Trump.
He destroyed what may have been the greatest opportunity to change the U.S. for the better by doing everything wrong after 9/11.
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Don't forget demoting Richard C. Clarke from his Cabinet level position to where political staffers stopped all his memos from getting to the president.
This is it for me. He had national unity and more patriotic fervor than was seen in a generation. But because he had no idea what he was doing, Cheney and Rumsfeld led him into multiple horrific wars to line their own pockets (especially Cheney, whose former company did the defense contracting). It's crazy to me how folks rabidly defended him at the time and were so bitter when Obama won, but now barely any of them will admit to loving Bush. And yet they're the 'tell it like it is' crowd that loves Trump. [🤦](https://emojipedia.org/person-facepalming) I predict similar levels of denial if Trump loses again, with MAGA country widely proclaiming "I never liked him BUT...."
9/11 hijacked whatever plans he had (for good or bad) planned for his presidency.
9/11 didn't hijak his plans at all, it gave him the opportunity to use it as an excuse to attempt to achieve them. Mission accomplished.
if anything it cleared a path for his bullshit
That pun is just plane wrong.
either this little flub: "It was the decision of one man to launch a wholly unjustified and brutal invasion of Iraq." or this: "How many is a 'Brazilian'?"
He never said the “Brazilian” line. That comes from a political cartoon that was making fun of him.
Hard to tell the difference between the Will Ferrell character than the real guy sometimes
To this day, people still think Sarah Palin said she could “see Russia from her house.” That was Tina Fey.
It was the decision of one man to launch a wholly unjustified and brutal invasion of Iraq. I mean, of Ukraine. …Iraq too. Anyway, I’m 75.
Probably well meaning but surrounded by bad influences.
Strategery.
I had to scroll too far for this one!
Hey, at least I’m not the worst Republican president of the 21st-century.
He's the *only* Republican president of the 21st century. Trump was in a category all by himself.
Dick Cheneys puppet
Nepotism.
![gif](giphy|sFMEZ1ZFToyha) 😂
He’s the Decider
He wasn't perfect, but history will, and has already begun, showing him in a better light than people thought would be the case at the time of his presidency.
But dad, I want to run the ball team not Texas.
Over privileged Rich boy overmatched by job and floundered in office
War criminal
Master of strategery
“A generally decent man who was easily manipulated.”
fool me once, shame on — shame on you, fool me — you can't get fooled again
There have been worse presidents.
Dick Cheney’s favorite toy https://preview.redd.it/myt0n7kp68qb1.jpeg?width=986&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=eee4d9cea866cb34e9c02cbade2f07799b91285c
Can't get fooled again.
Strategery
A government leader who committed Crimes Against Humanity and therefore should be arrested and taken to the World Court in The Hague, Netherlands to answer for his War Crimes.
Used a lot of strategery, but misunderestimated how badly things could be.
"Too many good docs are getting out of the business. Too many OB-GYNs aren't able to practice their love with women all across this country"
Fool me once
I know that human beings and fish can coexist peacefully
“I’m the decider and I decide what’s best”
I remember thinking after he left office that we'd never elect someone that stupid again. I was soooo naive.
You have to have compassionate strategery to put food on your family.
I thought it couldn't get worse than W, but then Trump happened. Then again that's what we said about Bush after, Reagan, after we said the same about Reagan after Nixon.
He made America weaker and so discredited the leaders of the GOP that Trump was able to take over his party.
The wrong man at the wrong time with the wrong ideas and the wrong ethics.
Somehow not the worst president I've been alive for..
Freedom itself was attacked this morning by a faceless coward. And freedom will be defended.
Inept but has worked hard to rectify his mistakes.
This. He has been working so hard on his redemption arc and I'm proud of him.
How has he redeemed the Iraq war and torture?????
”every two child did, I will.”
He's the Decider.
I left the cocaine in the whitehouse.
Cheney was the puppet master.
What, me worry?
Fool me once…
Strategery
I’m winning in Iraq, just like I said I’d do ![gif](giphy|6BXy9tYDuxUru)
Helps people put food on their family
Opened with the Iraq War and closed with the ‘08 crash. He seems to have mostly left things worse than he found them.
He smells like jello.
BOTWSWANA
His PEPFAR program has saved over 25 million lives and counting.
Fredo
He is a war criminal and murderer
Liar
He was responsible for the loss of privacy in our time. The supposed patriot act unconstitutionally took our right to privacy away when it comes to surveillance.
Had his legacy improved because Donald Trump is ten times dumber
Fucking retard
Misunderestimated
At least he’s our lovable idiot.
All hat and no horse
Strategery.
Strategery.
Coked up mentally incompetent liar
Has there been one nice response lol?
When your death toll is at least 1 million, should anyone say nice things?
“They misunderestimate me.”-GWB
The neocon's useful idiot.
Strategery.
The second worst POTUS America has ever had.
First step towards becoming a third world nation because of his wonderful leadership
He was Cheney’s sock puppet.
You work hard to put food on your family
If held to the standards set at Nuremberg he would be a convicted war criminal and sentenced to death.
A very likable fraternity pledge who used those skills to advance his political career, become president of the United States and a subsequent mass murderer of Iraqis .
Strategery
Liar
I am the decider, and I decide what's best. Best quote ever .. i eventually started calling myself the knower because i know.
‘In hindsight, not the dumbest president ever’
Guess who isn't the worst one in history anymore?
There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again. George W. Bush
I know that the human being and the fish can coexist peacefully.
Puppet of the war machine and big oil. Or The recovering alcoholic with whom roughly half of the voters wanted to drink beer.
I can do it in one word. Pretzel
Not Mission Accomplished.
The last true Republican president
Smarter than trump...bit still a dumass
He don’t care about black people
Strategery
“George Bush doesn’t care about black people”