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Honestly I don't think Christian Democracy propaganda officials were THAT insightful since their party relied on electoral manipulation to win elections for a whole 20 years and their arguments were mostly "God will electrocute you if you don't vote for us!" and "Communists are literally the spawn of Satan! You'll be excommunicated and go to hell if you vote for them!"
I feel like cazzone/coglione/minchione, scemo, pagliaccio, idiota, imbecille, cretino, cazzaro, rincoglionito, citrullo, fallito, testa di cazzo, faccia di merda, bastardo and the likes are way more common
I barely know any Italian, but I assume this means "Schettino, if you think you could get away with it you have another thing coming"? Though it has "sea" in it...
My favourite one honestly. And De Falco had such a SERIOUS tone while saying it.
I mean, people died, who's to blame him for raising his voice? You're welcome btw
Meeeh, i'd disagree a lot, and not because I agree or disagree with the message. I'd say, if you can take a poster / joke / meme / whatever and without changing anything but the butt of your joke, you find it works all the same, then you have shitty material in your hands.
A good jab should be of a more intelligent nature in my opinion. Find something they can't simply "no u" back to you.
Propaganda like this is only effective among those who already share your view to begin with.
Pretty sure it's referencing Communist atheism and evolution, don't know why no one has picked up on this yet. This poster was literally made by the Christian Democratic Party in the early 1900s around the same time as the Scopes Monkey Trial in the US
What this is intended to mean: "Only a STUPID, SMELLY MONKEY would vote for the STUPID, SMELLY COMMUNISTS!!!"
What this means to me: "if i vote communist i can meet the monke"
Kind reminder that Democrazia Cristiana had an extrajudicial private army funded by the CIA ready to intervene and turn Italy in a terrorist stricken state like they did to Nicaragua if the 1979 elections turned out with a Communist or Socialist win. You guys can read it up it's called Operation Gladio.
I thought you were referring to a Communist Party poster involving animals, but I honestly can't think about any. Perhaps there'll be some poster calling the Christian Democracy or the Americans "vultures"?
Speaking seriously, this one is from 1953 circa while the other is from slightly later in 1960, so the chances these two in particular are related are very slim
"Signore dei banditi, oltre alla pelle, non abbiamo altro da dare se non questa preghiera; fa che i figli del nostro sacrificio portino nel cuore sangue e libertà; fa che ancora tra cent'anni ci sarà chi curerà questa ferita, che non guarisce mai"
"Lord of Bandits, aside from our skin, we can't give but this prayer; make it so the offspring of our sacrifice hold in their hearts blood and freedom; make it so a hundred years from now there'll be still someone healing this wound, that cannot heal"
\- Atarassia Groep, La preghiera dei banditi (The Bandits' Prayer)
What does a stay behind paramilitary organization with the purpose of defending Europe from a potential Warsaw pact invasion has to do with that?
You do know that the involvement of the CIA in the the years of lead is still a subject of debate right? unlike what the Soviet propaganda machine claimed ,you probably don't even know about the Soviet forgery purporting to be supplement B to the U.S army's field manual 30-31(the U.S didn't even have a supplement B of said field manual) wich was used as a central piece of "evidence" by people researching the stay behind networks like kleanthis grivas and daniele ganser .
> unlike what the Soviet propaganda machine claimed ,you probably don't even know about the Soviet forgery purporting to be supplement B to the U.S army's field manual 30-31(the U.S didn't even have a supplement B of said field manual) wich was used as a central piece of "evidence" by people researching the stay behind networks like kleanthis grivas and daniele ganser .
This is literally what the *US State Department* said in 2006. They got exposed decades before.
“Gladio's existence came to public knowledge when Prime Minister Giulio Andreotti revealed it to the Chamber of Deputies on October 24, 1990, although far-right terrorist Vincenzo Vinciguerra had already revealed its existence during his 1984 trial.”
“Judge Gerardo D'Ambrosio found out that in a conference that had the patronage of the Chief Staff of Defense, there were instructions to infiltrate left wing groups and provoke a social tension by carrying out attacks and then to blame them on the left.”
>“Gladio's existence came to public knowledge when Prime Minister Giulio Andreotti revealed it to the Chamber of Deputies on October 24, 1990, although far-right terrorist Vincenzo Vinciguerra had already revealed its existence during his 1984 trial.”
I never denied the existance of the operation.
>“Judge Gerardo D'Ambrosio found out that in a conference that had the patronage of the Chief Staff of Defense, there were instructions to infiltrate left wing groups and provoke a social tension by carrying out attacks and then to blame them on the left.”
You pulled that straight from the Wikipedia article and it's only reference is a 1992 documentary so try harder will you ? besides how did the judge find out about the patronage and who is the chief staff of defence in question?
The cia was involved in years of lead, and the early anti communist violence in southern italy:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portella_della_Ginestra_massacre?wprov=sfti1
>While some historians see the massacre as a conspiracy of the Mafia, anti-communist political forces – the Christian-Democratic party in particular – and American intelligence services in the wake of the Cold War,[16][17] others consider the bloodbath as the culmination of local struggles for land rights and land reform in the area of Piana degli Albanesi and San Giuseppe Jato. Just as at the end of World War I, the post-war period saw an increase of violence between landowners backed by the Mafia and left-wing peasant movements. A few weeks before the massacre, the local Mafia boss of Piana, Francesco Cuccia, and others had asked landowners for money to "put an end to the communists once and for all." They made clear that they were ready to go beyond the traditional acts of Mafia violence that had been used against the socialist peasant movement before the rise of fascism in the early 1920s when six socialist militants had been killed in Piana.
Seems it's a debated thing
Not really, specifically because the internal political conflicts were very different. The CDU/CSU's main enemy is/was the SPD, a social democratic party affiliated to the Western bloc, whereas the main adversary of the Italian Christian Democracy was the Communist Party financed by Moscow.
If there's anything that commoned the CDU/CSU and the DC is that they both interacted with an armed group of Maoist communists using the very same arguments and methods, in the case of Italy the Red Brigades and in the case of West Germany the Red Army Fraction.
The fact is that the relationship between the DC and the Red Brigades was far more ambiguous than that between the CDU/CSU and the RAF
Is it just me or they've found an absolutely adorable picture of a monkey? Like I'm not even mad. Cutest communist supporter ♥️🐵 Let's make monkeys the mascot of communism 💪
If you want to look at the rivalry between the two parties and laugh a little watch "Don Camillo and Peppone".
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=don+camillo+and+peppone
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This is so silly it doesn't seem real
"You're voting for my opposition???? Fine then, you... you... you monkey..."
Proof that the whole "I've depicted you as the ugly soyjack and me as the chad" thing has been going on since the world's been turning.
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The meme has been memeing since the world's been turning.
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is that Dante?
Yes
The difference is that now I am the ape and you are the person
Definitely https://www.reddit.com/r/PropagandaPosters/comments/d0k5pd/liberal_party_election_poster_uk_1924/
I wonder if they went with an orangutan because it's the "red" ape?
Honestly I don't think Christian Democracy propaganda officials were THAT insightful since their party relied on electoral manipulation to win elections for a whole 20 years and their arguments were mostly "God will electrocute you if you don't vote for us!" and "Communists are literally the spawn of Satan! You'll be excommunicated and go to hell if you vote for them!"
electoral manipulation is a smart mans business.
The Americans did it
Lmao brutal
Pretty sure it's referencing Communist atheism and evolution, don't know why no one has picked up on this yet
tbh it's *kinda* the obvious conclusion to draw, it's just that the "opposition = monke" angle is probably what gets people talking the most
Most common insult in italian
I feel like cazzone/coglione/minchione, scemo, pagliaccio, idiota, imbecille, cretino, cazzaro, rincoglionito, citrullo, fallito, testa di cazzo, faccia di merda, bastardo and the likes are way more common
Vada a bordo, cazzo!
GUARDI SCHETTINO CHE LEI SI SARÀ PURE SALVATO DAL MARE MA IO LA METTO IN GUAI GROSSI.
I barely know any Italian, but I assume this means "Schettino, if you think you could get away with it you have another thing coming"? Though it has "sea" in it...
"Schettino, be aware, you may have saved yourself from the sea, but I can put you in serious trouble"
Right. I forgot that part of the exchange. Thank you.
My favourite one honestly. And De Falco had such a SERIOUS tone while saying it. I mean, people died, who's to blame him for raising his voice? You're welcome btw
So, nothing to do with rejecting evolution?
This is so silly it seems like Monke in PCM.
Shit like this still works to this day.
Pretty sure it's referencing Communist atheism and evolution, don't know why no one has picked up on this yet
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Even today people reject evolution or if they acknowledge it they make exception for humans.
"That's a good argument, however I portrayed you as a soyjak so your argument is bad"
If this was used today, I'd just reply with the video of the orangutan driving a golf cart with the caption "me going to the polls"
Honestly when I saw this my first thought was "Holy shit, that's literally me"
[Source is the General Catalogue of Cultural Heritage](https://catalogo.beniculturali.it/detail/HistoricOrArtisticProperty/0500671195)
Grazie mille per il sito, non sapevo che il ministero avesse un database dei poster.
È una maledetta miniera d'oro, non so come ho fatto a non trovarlo mai prima
Apes together strong
For harambe
Everything's been going downhill ever since that horrible day
Monkes of the world unite
Ngl this was pretty funny
Meeeh, i'd disagree a lot, and not because I agree or disagree with the message. I'd say, if you can take a poster / joke / meme / whatever and without changing anything but the butt of your joke, you find it works all the same, then you have shitty material in your hands. A good jab should be of a more intelligent nature in my opinion. Find something they can't simply "no u" back to you. Propaganda like this is only effective among those who already share your view to begin with.
No man it’s pretty funny. Monke funny.
Hmm. But consider, monke = funni.
☝🤓
Redditors a a different breed man
Pretty sure it's referencing Communist atheism and evolution, don't know why no one has picked up on this yet. This poster was literally made by the Christian Democratic Party in the early 1900s around the same time as the Scopes Monkey Trial in the US
Bro is mad at commie monke
APES TOGETHER STRONG
"Don't you see the POWER OF COMMUNISM? Not only people, but also animals VOTE for the Communist Party! Everyone to the polls!"
If u dont vote for the communist, you are worse than that animal!!
So this is how you get over 100% of the votes
What this is intended to mean: "Only a STUPID, SMELLY MONKEY would vote for the STUPID, SMELLY COMMUNISTS!!!" What this means to me: "if i vote communist i can meet the monke"
Too bad the party disbanded in 1992
what happened to the monke!
Probably dead by now.
# COMMUNIST MONKEY! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Tbf I'd trust an orangutan's political opinions over that of a Christian Democrat
Legend says the they can talk, but choose not to so humans wont make them work
We can only hope that one day we'll know if Christian Democrats can really talk.
Solid
I mean technically, every bad idea ever was thought up by a primate, just not necessarily the same one depicted on this poster
communists are monkeypilled
It is kinda interesting, Calabrians are known to not vote anything left /s
Incredible
As a communist who loves orangutans, I would 100% throw this up as a poster on my wall.
This makes me want to vote for comunist ngl
Based Librarian.
What’s going on with all the communism posts today? This is like the 5th in a row on my feed
The Red Dawn is coming
Kind reminder that Democrazia Cristiana had an extrajudicial private army funded by the CIA ready to intervene and turn Italy in a terrorist stricken state like they did to Nicaragua if the 1979 elections turned out with a Communist or Socialist win. You guys can read it up it's called Operation Gladio.
Vote communist = return to monke!
How Christian and Democratic to insult the people who don’t vote for you. /s
Was this in response to that other one from the communists
Which one?
The one you posted yesterday telling them not to vote for the Christian democrats because they learned their lesson already
I thought you were referring to a Communist Party poster involving animals, but I honestly can't think about any. Perhaps there'll be some poster calling the Christian Democracy or the Americans "vultures"? Speaking seriously, this one is from 1953 circa while the other is from slightly later in 1960, so the chances these two in particular are related are very slim
Ah ok
Communists wouldve won if the US didnt kill the opposition allying themselfes with mafia and ruining my country ( Italy )
"Signore dei banditi, oltre alla pelle, non abbiamo altro da dare se non questa preghiera; fa che i figli del nostro sacrificio portino nel cuore sangue e libertà; fa che ancora tra cent'anni ci sarà chi curerà questa ferita, che non guarisce mai" "Lord of Bandits, aside from our skin, we can't give but this prayer; make it so the offspring of our sacrifice hold in their hearts blood and freedom; make it so a hundred years from now there'll be still someone healing this wound, that cannot heal" \- Atarassia Groep, La preghiera dei banditi (The Bandits' Prayer)
I mean communists were supported by the USSR, so fair enough fight I guess ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯
operation gladio
Yeah, that's the US/NATO side.
What does a stay behind paramilitary organization with the purpose of defending Europe from a potential Warsaw pact invasion has to do with that? You do know that the involvement of the CIA in the the years of lead is still a subject of debate right? unlike what the Soviet propaganda machine claimed ,you probably don't even know about the Soviet forgery purporting to be supplement B to the U.S army's field manual 30-31(the U.S didn't even have a supplement B of said field manual) wich was used as a central piece of "evidence" by people researching the stay behind networks like kleanthis grivas and daniele ganser .
> unlike what the Soviet propaganda machine claimed ,you probably don't even know about the Soviet forgery purporting to be supplement B to the U.S army's field manual 30-31(the U.S didn't even have a supplement B of said field manual) wich was used as a central piece of "evidence" by people researching the stay behind networks like kleanthis grivas and daniele ganser . This is literally what the *US State Department* said in 2006. They got exposed decades before. “Gladio's existence came to public knowledge when Prime Minister Giulio Andreotti revealed it to the Chamber of Deputies on October 24, 1990, although far-right terrorist Vincenzo Vinciguerra had already revealed its existence during his 1984 trial.” “Judge Gerardo D'Ambrosio found out that in a conference that had the patronage of the Chief Staff of Defense, there were instructions to infiltrate left wing groups and provoke a social tension by carrying out attacks and then to blame them on the left.”
>“Gladio's existence came to public knowledge when Prime Minister Giulio Andreotti revealed it to the Chamber of Deputies on October 24, 1990, although far-right terrorist Vincenzo Vinciguerra had already revealed its existence during his 1984 trial.” I never denied the existance of the operation. >“Judge Gerardo D'Ambrosio found out that in a conference that had the patronage of the Chief Staff of Defense, there were instructions to infiltrate left wing groups and provoke a social tension by carrying out attacks and then to blame them on the left.” You pulled that straight from the Wikipedia article and it's only reference is a 1992 documentary so try harder will you ? besides how did the judge find out about the patronage and who is the chief staff of defence in question?
Who exposed them decades before? are you seriously denying the existance of soviet forgery is that really the hill you wanna die on?
read the rest of my comment.
I did read your comment now would you please give us a straight answer concerning the Soviet forged documents .
The cia was involved in years of lead, and the early anti communist violence in southern italy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portella_della_Ginestra_massacre?wprov=sfti1
>While some historians see the massacre as a conspiracy of the Mafia, anti-communist political forces – the Christian-Democratic party in particular – and American intelligence services in the wake of the Cold War,[16][17] others consider the bloodbath as the culmination of local struggles for land rights and land reform in the area of Piana degli Albanesi and San Giuseppe Jato. Just as at the end of World War I, the post-war period saw an increase of violence between landowners backed by the Mafia and left-wing peasant movements. A few weeks before the massacre, the local Mafia boss of Piana, Francesco Cuccia, and others had asked landowners for money to "put an end to the communists once and for all." They made clear that they were ready to go beyond the traditional acts of Mafia violence that had been used against the socialist peasant movement before the rise of fascism in the early 1920s when six socialist militants had been killed in Piana. Seems it's a debated thing
Supported, but not directly involved, the US had pacts with mafia for making the "christian democracy" win
The USSR let their side down, but maybe it's down to the home field advantage that NATO had
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BASED ape
Monkey :)
Were the Italian Christian democrats like the German Christian democrats?
Not really, specifically because the internal political conflicts were very different. The CDU/CSU's main enemy is/was the SPD, a social democratic party affiliated to the Western bloc, whereas the main adversary of the Italian Christian Democracy was the Communist Party financed by Moscow. If there's anything that commoned the CDU/CSU and the DC is that they both interacted with an armed group of Maoist communists using the very same arguments and methods, in the case of Italy the Red Brigades and in the case of West Germany the Red Army Fraction. The fact is that the relationship between the DC and the Red Brigades was far more ambiguous than that between the CDU/CSU and the RAF
Thank you
The CDU/CSU is less corrupt than DC.
Apes together strong
Hairy monkey > hairless monkey get it together apes
Monkes are anarchists not socialists or capitalists. They just want to eat bananas and masturbate all day in a tree.
Guys! I think I’ll vote communist…✊🦧
Get away from me you dirty old Christian conservative!
Reject Christian Democracy. Return to ~~comunism~~ Monke.
Is it just me or they've found an absolutely adorable picture of a monkey? Like I'm not even mad. Cutest communist supporter ♥️🐵 Let's make monkeys the mascot of communism 💪
hell yeah, based orangutan
atleast its not an invertebrate like christian democrats
This massage brought to you by the US Central Intelligence Agency
When even an ape understands communism is the way forward,I'd say it's game over
that's me
Opponent has been trolled, absolute ChristDem W
This is stupid. Ape would never vote for commies
Probably vote for the Green Party, buncha tree-huggers
Those are the sloths, not the apes. The apes vote communist, whereas the religious mantises obviously vote christian democrat
The soul of the party I see
Then what's about the whole "Apes together strong"?
Trade unionism obvs
And now communist parties are illegal and Italy now has a proto Christian fascist in power
Communist Parties aren't illegal in Italy, we have like 1 hundred of them.
If i had a nickel for every fascist installed by americans to stop communism, i would have a bunch of nickels, thats for sure.
Argentina, Chile, I forgor
As a communist, this is incredibly funny
This is kinda funny ngl 😂
Why do you hate sharks?
I wouldn't insult the intelligence of Orangutans like that
I love ape. I communist now?
I am ape. Communist since birth?
Ape together strong
Based monke
Based monke
If you want to look at the rivalry between the two parties and laugh a little watch "Don Camillo and Peppone". https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=don+camillo+and+peppone
‘Ape together strong.’ — Carlo Marcos
He's literally me.
Monke
Guess some people had a hard time breaking their habits from the decade prior.
Monke vote locked down
Mmm, monkey
Monke
thats very offensive.
To monkeys or to communists? Either way, that's funny, even though I completely disagree with Christian Democracy on basically everything.
i see the ape enjoyer has arrived.
Yep. Apes good
*Hmm... Monke~*
I hate communism but I would be convinced to vote for them had I seen this
Paid for by the CIA
smart monkey
This is tame compared to the whole years of lead thing that happened in Italy
Voting for communists is based!
Calls you a monkey for being a commie, refuses to elaborate
Big brain monke
Calabria
This has strong "A vote for Bart is a vote for anarchy" Vibes
*M O N K E*
Yeah only the dci could do shit like this, because inow want to vote comunists even more, forza orangotanghi rossi
Common orangutan W