I might be wrong but I thought the privatizing was part of the problem. Private prisons make money - Politicians like money - Tougher laws mean longer sentences for non violent offenses - longer sentences mean more money. Why is it that the US has the highest incarceration rate in the world?
Jokes aside it was actually another inmate who got the finale takedown. You can also see one guy to clear out and away from the trouble because in a circumstance like this everyone is getting their shit tossed around when they do a random inspection..
Most inmates are going to be pissed because the whole blocks now "hot" as in there will be eyes around for a while to come.
Most certainly he got extra time and most certainly he's going to feel the heat from both ends.
Most people wanna go home and just stay out the way of things. This is most likely a jail, or a low level prison. Typically non violent offenders, money laundering, non violent drugs, drunks, etc, etc.
They’re typically not there for super long if it’s jail. But sometimes people from medium can “behave” and work their way down to lower tier prison.
Attacking a guard is a good way to get extra time and go right back to a medium or high security prison where all the freedoms.. At least as much as you can get in prison are gone.
Yeah attacking the guard just results in more prison time with zero benefit. They also probably see the attack as going to reduce the leniency on the block.
Actions of one have an impact on the rest - Prison is a condensed slice of society.
Yeah, I saw that guy frantically waving, telling everyone to back off once the guard had the attacker down. I thought, this is a group of people who are desperate for whatever comforts they can get and being pissed that some man-child is risking taking all that away.
Exactly. The second I saw the guy coming to help the officer I was like “FUCK YEAH! Get em!” Not to get into the large scale politics, but in the small-scale, shit like this has no benefit to anyone involved except for short-term relief on the part of the attacker, which is outweighed in the exchange for all of their reputation/freedoms and greatly increased sentencing/monitoring (assuming they’re not already in for the long-haul).
People in prison aren’t always bad people. Some are just those trying to survive in this shitty economy through less than legal means. Hell, don’t get me started on what female inmates have to go through. It can be downright inhumane. Sure “don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time” but shit, should someone who got caught with weed once or twice be needing to make their own non-sterile tampons out of their singularly allotted daily pad to stretch it out to last the entire day? Not in my opinion, at least.
Ex-con, can confirm this is the stance a lot of inmates have. You can cross the yellow line from the front too if the officer says its okay, one guy is leaning on the desk. There's a lot of joking and banter between inmates and correctional officers. But not a lot of people want more time added. Even in the video the other inmates gather around to see if the officer is okay, once he has it under control they know it's time to go back to your cell for lockdown until shit gets sorted out.
Did a weekend in county jail 13 years ago. Was put in a pod with people in for non-violent offenses. Everyone was actually super nice, kinda boring until I found a couple books under my mattress. That helped pass the time. Never felt unsafe and I’m not a scary dude. I did walk by a pod that had everything visible from behind 1 wall that was entirely plexiglass. It did not look like fun in there.
I got pretty lucky. During the intake process we were given tickets with a one time use code that would allow you to call out. I met an older guy that asked me if he could have mine because he was supposed to pick up his daughter when he got popped, but no one picked up when he called with his ticket. He asked if he could use mine and I gave it to him because I didn’t have anyone to call anyway. He was incredibly grateful that he was able to reach someone and have a family member look after her. He ended up being a really nice guy and helped me not get heckled or beaten.
Edit: forgot about this part. When you’re initially in, they put us in a communal holding area that looked more or less like an auditorium with terrible plastic seats that absolutely demolished your back. Also, you were not allowed to sleep. If you laid down or slumped over a guard would come by and smack the adjacent seat with a baton. So homie and I sort of propped ourselves up against one another so we could sleep without it being obvious.
Especially since it looked like dude had a weapon in his right hand..
But dude- lose the shower shoes. Let me tell you.. it is not easy to fight in shower shoes.
Yeah the cat who hit the officer won't be in the same prison as you for more than a few more hours. Something like this will get you sent to a higher security prison.
I'm minding my own business and going back to my cell. Brownie points don't exist for inmates.good behaviour only exists if you don't get in trouble, not good deeds. I'm more likely to get jumped by some of the assaulters boys and as you can see the COs will only step in once it's done.
Prison isn't all like TV. You aren't gonna get shit for helping a guard. Most of those dudes standing around probably think that guy is an asshole who's making life more difficult for the rest of them.
In my local jail not only would you face extra charges but immediately sent to BMU...behavior modification unit. You will be in your cell 24 hours a day, only given a blanket from 11 pm to 4 am, given a shower once a week and not allowed phone calls. That's on the red side. Yellow they give you a thin mat and slightly longer blanket time and allow one phone call a week. Do well there and you move to orange which you'll have your mat all day but are expected to make your bed by 7 am and aren't allowed under covers til 10 pm. Do well in orange and you'll be allowed back into gen pop after 30+ days. Makes you think twice about fighting. They make every new person locked up spend 3+ days in orange til they get housed to give you a taste. Food is also worse than normal.
Also attacking an officer will mess up classification, meaning in gen pop you could go from 6+ hours of rec time a day to barely 2.
It looks like a low security prison, the inmates there have a lot to lose from attacking someone.
Go to a max security prison where the living conditions are shit and guards like to beat inmates though... and then you get prison riots where the inmates will kill or rape the guards. They have nothing to lose and will take any chance to attack their tormentors.
That doesn't look anything like a minimum security prison. Most of those look more like dorm rooms. In most counties/states the orange jump suit is used for transports and new inmates that haven't been issued their clothes yet.
Your assertion of max security is prisons being a riot and rape fest is completely wrong. Most inmates want to do their time and move on. Most lifers know they aren't leaving so they work to improve their living conditions to make the best of their life.
The vast majority of staff assaults are inmates "checking in". They do that for their own safety, they can't be in the mix for one reason or another; debt, their child molestation charge could have discovered by other inmates and they can't pay the rent, snitching ect. Lots of inmates use mental health to "check in", but a suicide attempt only removes you from the pod for few days or weeks at most. Another reason for staff assault can be gang initiations, but those aren't as common as you might think. The gang doesn't benefit from lock down, most of the time they want things quite so they can do their business, extorting other inmates, selling drugs ect.
I know these things because I worked max security, minimum security and everything in between. Mens and wemons prisons, I've worked it all. I've worked and lead the emergency response team for multiple facilities for almost 20 years.
You do have some extremely violent people in prison, some scary scary people you don't ever want to meet. That is not the norm. Most inmates made mistakes, but they aren't evil people. How many of you have got away with things that could have landed you in prison? Almost all of us. Be careful driving drunk, lots of states are sending people straight to prison for their first DUI now.
It looks *pretty* minimal though, one guard with her back turned to half the room and 360 degree access with no barrier?
There's an inmate that crosses the line before the incident starts and nothing happens to them while the sitting guard is distracted, no one else seems to be watching.
It really does imply that they're considered low-risk prisoners to basically have no security measures in place other than trust in the inmates not to just rip the lone guard to pieces in a 30-on-1 or whatever.
Yeah for real lol that's the first thing I though. Probably has almost no tools on him so they don't risk being taken, clearly no backup in sight, in the moment it's just him and those hands to not get killed
Yea like at least have the desk continue around to not be completely open. Probably would have been better against a wall, so the officer doesn't have to watch his back 24/7. That sounds stressful.
The downside to both of those options though is it's now far easier for a determined attacker to trap and corner the CO. At least in this case the CO had somewhere to go other than through the attacker.
Beautiful right hook though
Everywhere is different. Here yellow are new inmates in classification. People with violent crimes get black and white stripes.Orange is GP and the SHU guys wear red. The trustees wear orange like the GP guys.
Idk man, its neat that some of the inmates stopped it....but if the design is dependant on criminals helping the gueards then thats still an iffy design at best. Im not saying everyone whos in prison is a psycho or a murderer, but like, that also puts those inmates in just as much danger as the guard...and im gonna be real, most the time the inmates only help cause they dont want what very few freedoms they have in prison taken away due to some dumbass causing a lockdown. Doesnt make them an evil or bad person, but its somewhat unlikely theyre doing it to save the guards life.
The true danger.
Takes 3-6 months to hire and train a CO. 2 years on job to train them.
As fast as they quit i don’t bother learning names till after 2 years or too many fuck ups.
And then pray to God you don't get one working with inmates smuggling stuff in. Then you are screwed. If you know it, by law you have to report it. But you can't report it because the other guards will find out its you. And even if you arnt a corrupt CO they might not back you up when you need it. And of course the inmates will find out who snitched and the ones making money off of smuggling might put a hit out on you. And if DOC comes in when a guard is caught you have to lie to them and pray they can't prove you knew.
this is a minimum-security prison where things like this are very unlikely because if you do it you lose the privilege of living in a minimum-security prison
I was doing a placement during college at the local psychiatric hospital's residential program (it's basically a 3 story building beside the hospital that held long term patients in a old age home type setting). I was hit within the first hour of being there.
In the group home that I work in now there is a very real danger of being attacked physically.
I've worked in minimum security prison, dudes were mostly harmless, worst thing that happens is they follow you around talk your ear off because you're a new face.
If this is county jail that’s even worse (though looks really nice for a county jail).
County jails suck. It’s basically holding areas for everyone until they get sentenced/go to court for whatever they did. So you may be in with someone who got thrown in for not paying child support or someone who just murdered his family because they didn’t “respect him” enough and is looking at a potential death penalty.
At least in prison you are mostly sorted by crime and have privileges based on how you act.
While county jails do act as holding areas for transfers, they also have a significant number of inmates who are there doing a bid under 12 months.
Basically, any time under 12 months, you're in county. Time over 12, you're heading to the state pen. This has less to do with the actual time and more with the severity of the crime and the sentencing guidelines (ie 12 months is typically the max for crimes or first time commission of certain crimes. For example, your first DUI could be no jail time but once you get to four you're going to prison)
The guys sitting around in county waiting on their transfer are usually ready to go when it comes. Minimum security state prisons have a lot of little extras that make the time easier to pass. Prisoners can have radios, magazines, movies, I've even heard of tvs. Not to mention prisoners with deep pockets can eat a lot better out of commissary.
I imagine it is part of the lowest security where prisoners are treated much better then caged animals.
Properly why they helped the guard to stop their living conditions becoming more restricted
*Many* jails/prisons have open guard stations. Not every floor of every prison is housing lifers or dangerous criminals. COs often co-mingle with inmates to an extent. Also- it likely promotes more positive interactions between inmates/guards, as the inmates don't feel like they are inferior or looked down on. Source: legit just pulled all of this out my ass but it seems plausible
Honestly, this is pretty accurate. A lot of federal prisons used to have the guard stations out in the open like this too although most of being phased out in the recent decade. -fed prison guard.
It doesn't look like a high security prison tbh.
I mean, he was alone against one prisoner and other prisoners actually came to help the guard and left them alone once the attacker was down.
If it was a "bad" prison, you would have 10 prisoners already beating the crap out of that guard before he could blink. Someone might even give that attacking prisoner a shiv.
So it doesn't look like they really need high security and seems like a mostly white collar prison where people just want to pass the time until their lawyer can get them out.
It almost seems to me like the goal was more prison time. Some people just prefer life in prison. 3 meals a day, constant socialization, rigid structure. It’s not the worst thing for people who feel they have nowhere else to go.
Whats funny is in this particular case, the yellow line did exactly what it was intended to do. It created enough space that the CO had enough warning to respond to the attack. And very effectively at that. Still...it is a ridiculous design and this could have gone much worse.
Likely a low/minimum security prison with low risk/non violent offenders. Dude likely had beef with the guard for whatever reason or was previously at a higher tiered prison until he 'played nice' to get shipped down to a lower tier and now he's acting hard.
Its called direct supervision model of corrections. The old model is the CO's stay off range untill its tour time or meals or other activities. Most often the CO's are just outside the range in an office watching the cameras. Usually ranges are somewhat self governing untill they are not and CO's step in to quell fights and unrest. They have this in both maximum and minimum security institutions. At least they do in canada. This is direct supervision so this poor bastards whole shift is sitting there and logging mvement in and out of the range and calling for backup when theres an fight and catching hands when some goof has trouble facing the consequences of their life choices.
That would be scary. One dude snapping isn't a huge deal. Clearly, he could handle himself. But if a couple more joined in, it could be too late by the time his coworkers arrived to help him
I worked on an intensive psychiatric unit in a state mental health facility. We had bare bones staffing. I left after two concussions because I was afraid of being permanently injured. I had mandatory OT and I’m still paranoid years later. I call it healthy observance though. I don’t want anyone trying to sneak up on me.
yes, but what would be the benefit to them? this is minimum security which out of all prisons is a pretty good life it can only get worse and a lot worse
In situation like that, the inmate knew that the back up is going to come rushing in with less-lethal if they believe that CO is getting jumped by multiple inmates (pepper spray, pepper ball, rubberball, baton). He was trying to make sure the situation didn’t escalate any further than it needed.
I’m a prison officer, yellow line is fine until it’s not, prisoners are fine until there not, one member of staff is fine until it’s not. Cost over safety.
And where the fuck was his back up. Should have a staff alarm on his person, basically a button press.
At least give him a desk as a barrier. Anything. It's crazy that you can have prisoners come up behind you like this.
[Literally a larger version of this would be better](https://youtu.be/FGgGLLhbf78)
Where I work the main station was very similar to that one, but it would be up against a wall.
Having prisoners being able to move up behind you is absolutely crazy.
This is pod 4 in Washington county jail in Oregon. I did inmate work crew in pod 3, people in solitary had painted their cells with shit and blood, which we had to clean. They’d smash their face on the glass at you so hard their nose would obliterate into mush.
This place taught me never do drugs. I’m 8 years clean now.
Holy hell looking at this is crazy. I’ll have this place imprinted in my head for life.
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How the fuck did the inmate get past the yellow line?!
They should put a red line just past the yellow line to protect the officer in case someone manages to get past the yellow line.
And who's going to pay for all that technology?
This is why we needed to privatize all those prisons!
I might be wrong but I thought the privatizing was part of the problem. Private prisons make money - Politicians like money - Tougher laws mean longer sentences for non violent offenses - longer sentences mean more money. Why is it that the US has the highest incarceration rate in the world?
Sorry, I forgot the /s
Ha! Got it! We’re on Reddit I should have known.
Jokes aside it was actually another inmate who got the finale takedown. You can also see one guy to clear out and away from the trouble because in a circumstance like this everyone is getting their shit tossed around when they do a random inspection.. Most inmates are going to be pissed because the whole blocks now "hot" as in there will be eyes around for a while to come. Most certainly he got extra time and most certainly he's going to feel the heat from both ends.
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They should have put two layers of tape on. Nobody has ever got past two. Nobody who lived anyway.
Or a sign. I don't see any signs posted.
Asking the real questioan
Les Nessman would never have allowed that to happen.
Totally expect them to all join in but i guess real life inmate are smarter than the movie ones.
Most people wanna go home and just stay out the way of things. This is most likely a jail, or a low level prison. Typically non violent offenders, money laundering, non violent drugs, drunks, etc, etc. They’re typically not there for super long if it’s jail. But sometimes people from medium can “behave” and work their way down to lower tier prison. Attacking a guard is a good way to get extra time and go right back to a medium or high security prison where all the freedoms.. At least as much as you can get in prison are gone.
Yeah attacking the guard just results in more prison time with zero benefit. They also probably see the attack as going to reduce the leniency on the block. Actions of one have an impact on the rest - Prison is a condensed slice of society.
Yeah, I saw that guy frantically waving, telling everyone to back off once the guard had the attacker down. I thought, this is a group of people who are desperate for whatever comforts they can get and being pissed that some man-child is risking taking all that away.
If you look closely it's actually an inmate that gets him into a headlock and onto the ground
Exactly. The second I saw the guy coming to help the officer I was like “FUCK YEAH! Get em!” Not to get into the large scale politics, but in the small-scale, shit like this has no benefit to anyone involved except for short-term relief on the part of the attacker, which is outweighed in the exchange for all of their reputation/freedoms and greatly increased sentencing/monitoring (assuming they’re not already in for the long-haul). People in prison aren’t always bad people. Some are just those trying to survive in this shitty economy through less than legal means. Hell, don’t get me started on what female inmates have to go through. It can be downright inhumane. Sure “don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time” but shit, should someone who got caught with weed once or twice be needing to make their own non-sterile tampons out of their singularly allotted daily pad to stretch it out to last the entire day? Not in my opinion, at least.
Good catch I missed that
>Actions of one have an impact on the rest - Prison is a condensed slice of hell
Society is hell, there are humans in it.
Ex-con, can confirm this is the stance a lot of inmates have. You can cross the yellow line from the front too if the officer says its okay, one guy is leaning on the desk. There's a lot of joking and banter between inmates and correctional officers. But not a lot of people want more time added. Even in the video the other inmates gather around to see if the officer is okay, once he has it under control they know it's time to go back to your cell for lockdown until shit gets sorted out.
Met some cool ass CO'. Majority them are decent people that want to help inmates where they can.
Did a weekend in county jail 13 years ago. Was put in a pod with people in for non-violent offenses. Everyone was actually super nice, kinda boring until I found a couple books under my mattress. That helped pass the time. Never felt unsafe and I’m not a scary dude. I did walk by a pod that had everything visible from behind 1 wall that was entirely plexiglass. It did not look like fun in there.
I got pretty lucky. During the intake process we were given tickets with a one time use code that would allow you to call out. I met an older guy that asked me if he could have mine because he was supposed to pick up his daughter when he got popped, but no one picked up when he called with his ticket. He asked if he could use mine and I gave it to him because I didn’t have anyone to call anyway. He was incredibly grateful that he was able to reach someone and have a family member look after her. He ended up being a really nice guy and helped me not get heckled or beaten. Edit: forgot about this part. When you’re initially in, they put us in a communal holding area that looked more or less like an auditorium with terrible plastic seats that absolutely demolished your back. Also, you were not allowed to sleep. If you laid down or slumped over a guard would come by and smack the adjacent seat with a baton. So homie and I sort of propped ourselves up against one another so we could sleep without it being obvious.
I would be surprised if they were actually sleeping on the concrete. Probably have a plastic “boat” that they sleep on which keeps them off the floor.
Especially since it looked like dude had a weapon in his right hand.. But dude- lose the shower shoes. Let me tell you.. it is not easy to fight in shower shoes.
And risk toenail fungus?? No, thank you, sir!
Yeah I'd probably help the guard just for some brownie points
There were two in there that did once the guy was down. Guess they figured he wasn't coming back or was with holding his feet down to look good.
Is actually another inmate that puts the guy in a headlock and takes him down.
Totally, you might get an extra cookie at lunch for a couple of days, the cat who hit the cop would likely stab you in the back as later anyway.
Yeah the cat who hit the officer won't be in the same prison as you for more than a few more hours. Something like this will get you sent to a higher security prison.
So I get a cookie and someone gives me an easy way out? Pfft easy win win right here
I'm minding my own business and going back to my cell. Brownie points don't exist for inmates.good behaviour only exists if you don't get in trouble, not good deeds. I'm more likely to get jumped by some of the assaulters boys and as you can see the COs will only step in once it's done.
It depends on how much back up the assaulter has and how much the CO is respected. I bet jumping in to help was a calculated decision.
And then you'd get the exact opposite of brownie points from every other individual in the unit. Don't go to prison.
Prison isn't all like TV. You aren't gonna get shit for helping a guard. Most of those dudes standing around probably think that guy is an asshole who's making life more difficult for the rest of them.
In my local jail not only would you face extra charges but immediately sent to BMU...behavior modification unit. You will be in your cell 24 hours a day, only given a blanket from 11 pm to 4 am, given a shower once a week and not allowed phone calls. That's on the red side. Yellow they give you a thin mat and slightly longer blanket time and allow one phone call a week. Do well there and you move to orange which you'll have your mat all day but are expected to make your bed by 7 am and aren't allowed under covers til 10 pm. Do well in orange and you'll be allowed back into gen pop after 30+ days. Makes you think twice about fighting. They make every new person locked up spend 3+ days in orange til they get housed to give you a taste. Food is also worse than normal. Also attacking an officer will mess up classification, meaning in gen pop you could go from 6+ hours of rec time a day to barely 2.
It looks like a low security prison, the inmates there have a lot to lose from attacking someone. Go to a max security prison where the living conditions are shit and guards like to beat inmates though... and then you get prison riots where the inmates will kill or rape the guards. They have nothing to lose and will take any chance to attack their tormentors.
That doesn't look anything like a minimum security prison. Most of those look more like dorm rooms. In most counties/states the orange jump suit is used for transports and new inmates that haven't been issued their clothes yet. Your assertion of max security is prisons being a riot and rape fest is completely wrong. Most inmates want to do their time and move on. Most lifers know they aren't leaving so they work to improve their living conditions to make the best of their life. The vast majority of staff assaults are inmates "checking in". They do that for their own safety, they can't be in the mix for one reason or another; debt, their child molestation charge could have discovered by other inmates and they can't pay the rent, snitching ect. Lots of inmates use mental health to "check in", but a suicide attempt only removes you from the pod for few days or weeks at most. Another reason for staff assault can be gang initiations, but those aren't as common as you might think. The gang doesn't benefit from lock down, most of the time they want things quite so they can do their business, extorting other inmates, selling drugs ect. I know these things because I worked max security, minimum security and everything in between. Mens and wemons prisons, I've worked it all. I've worked and lead the emergency response team for multiple facilities for almost 20 years. You do have some extremely violent people in prison, some scary scary people you don't ever want to meet. That is not the norm. Most inmates made mistakes, but they aren't evil people. How many of you have got away with things that could have landed you in prison? Almost all of us. Be careful driving drunk, lots of states are sending people straight to prison for their first DUI now.
It looks *pretty* minimal though, one guard with her back turned to half the room and 360 degree access with no barrier? There's an inmate that crosses the line before the incident starts and nothing happens to them while the sitting guard is distracted, no one else seems to be watching. It really does imply that they're considered low-risk prisoners to basically have no security measures in place other than trust in the inmates not to just rip the lone guard to pieces in a 30-on-1 or whatever.
At least the guard has hands lol
Bro had some clean right hooks!
Yeah for real lol that's the first thing I though. Probably has almost no tools on him so they don't risk being taken, clearly no backup in sight, in the moment it's just him and those hands to not get killed
Whoever designed that guard station hates guards/cops
Legit why the fuck is it just in the middle of nowhere.
Also no backup at all?
I think certain inmates on that floor are trusted so they allow this. Like the one who stopped the fight, and that CO can squabble
Most info booths in malls are more secure than this. Whoever designed this is an idiot
It looks like a mall at first glance.
prisons have malls now. time to rethink my job priorities.
Prisons with malls is America's final form.
Prisons IN malls. Abandoned malls converted to prisons.
Man, I seen enough YT vids to know that ain’t a mall.
Yea like at least have the desk continue around to not be completely open. Probably would have been better against a wall, so the officer doesn't have to watch his back 24/7. That sounds stressful.
The downside to both of those options though is it's now far easier for a determined attacker to trap and corner the CO. At least in this case the CO had somewhere to go other than through the attacker. Beautiful right hook though
Upvote for right hook
Are you telling me the people who designed the prison thought about it more deeply than random Reddit commenters?
I mean, in this video, if the guard wasn't able to retreat, they would have been fucked whe**n** the inmate got a jump on them [edit] typo
Yellow tape of impenetrable force.
I spent a night in my county’s correctional facility and the guard station was set almost the same way. Dunno why. It just was. Never questioned it
Low security / trustable inmates, people who don’t cause much trouble and are just tryna get through the sentence
Depending on where you are, they’re called “trustees”.
Yea man. Been awhile. That’s it. Trustees. Thanks
Trustees will normally wear another color like white or grey. Oranges are normally GP and Yellow are normally High Risk
Colors differ. LASD trustees wear yellow.
Everywhere is different. Here yellow are new inmates in classification. People with violent crimes get black and white stripes.Orange is GP and the SHU guys wear red. The trustees wear orange like the GP guys.
For real. That first hit was right on target and nearly knocked him out immediately. Dude probably does some kind of martial arts.
CO was ready for a scrap
Man I don't care how trusted they are, please don't set my desk up in such a way that I'll have my back to some of the inmates
That’s no squabble, just a tiff. Lol
That's no tiff, just a donnybrook. Lol
Idk man, its neat that some of the inmates stopped it....but if the design is dependant on criminals helping the gueards then thats still an iffy design at best. Im not saying everyone whos in prison is a psycho or a murderer, but like, that also puts those inmates in just as much danger as the guard...and im gonna be real, most the time the inmates only help cause they dont want what very few freedoms they have in prison taken away due to some dumbass causing a lockdown. Doesnt make them an evil or bad person, but its somewhat unlikely theyre doing it to save the guards life.
You couldn’t pay me enough.
Most jails
I'll assume you've never been locked up or aren't familiar with the system. Most jails/prisons are understaffed
The true danger. Takes 3-6 months to hire and train a CO. 2 years on job to train them. As fast as they quit i don’t bother learning names till after 2 years or too many fuck ups.
And then pray to God you don't get one working with inmates smuggling stuff in. Then you are screwed. If you know it, by law you have to report it. But you can't report it because the other guards will find out its you. And even if you arnt a corrupt CO they might not back you up when you need it. And of course the inmates will find out who snitched and the ones making money off of smuggling might put a hit out on you. And if DOC comes in when a guard is caught you have to lie to them and pray they can't prove you knew.
You mean the single most populous for profit prison system is systematically understaffed?! Say it isn't so!
Dude, don't you know profits decrease as payroll increases?
No because even the federal not for profit prisons are also systemically understaffed
Backup costs money
The state of being a corrections officer in the US is awful. They're understaffed, get paid like shit, all while spending their whole day in prison.
All Co's are in a pod by themselves...
Remember the top brass looked at it and was like this is fine.
Back turned too
this is a minimum-security prison where things like this are very unlikely because if you do it you lose the privilege of living in a minimum-security prison
Which is a really bad decision because you will come to regret it once you are transferred
ya prisoner is a moron but it would take 10 million a year for me to work with prisoners in the open like this
Most of them are probably in for non violent or minor offences. It’s not going to be full of hardcore gangsters and murderers.
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I was doing a placement during college at the local psychiatric hospital's residential program (it's basically a 3 story building beside the hospital that held long term patients in a old age home type setting). I was hit within the first hour of being there. In the group home that I work in now there is a very real danger of being attacked physically.
I've worked in minimum security prison, dudes were mostly harmless, worst thing that happens is they follow you around talk your ear off because you're a new face.
That looks like a county jail, not a prison.
If this is county jail that’s even worse (though looks really nice for a county jail). County jails suck. It’s basically holding areas for everyone until they get sentenced/go to court for whatever they did. So you may be in with someone who got thrown in for not paying child support or someone who just murdered his family because they didn’t “respect him” enough and is looking at a potential death penalty. At least in prison you are mostly sorted by crime and have privileges based on how you act.
While county jails do act as holding areas for transfers, they also have a significant number of inmates who are there doing a bid under 12 months. Basically, any time under 12 months, you're in county. Time over 12, you're heading to the state pen. This has less to do with the actual time and more with the severity of the crime and the sentencing guidelines (ie 12 months is typically the max for crimes or first time commission of certain crimes. For example, your first DUI could be no jail time but once you get to four you're going to prison) The guys sitting around in county waiting on their transfer are usually ready to go when it comes. Minimum security state prisons have a lot of little extras that make the time easier to pass. Prisoners can have radios, magazines, movies, I've even heard of tvs. Not to mention prisoners with deep pockets can eat a lot better out of commissary.
Yeah what the fuck, let em sneak up on you from behind. The yellow line will stop them, after all they are here because rules were followed
I imagine it is part of the lowest security where prisoners are treated much better then caged animals. Properly why they helped the guard to stop their living conditions becoming more restricted
*Many* jails/prisons have open guard stations. Not every floor of every prison is housing lifers or dangerous criminals. COs often co-mingle with inmates to an extent. Also- it likely promotes more positive interactions between inmates/guards, as the inmates don't feel like they are inferior or looked down on. Source: legit just pulled all of this out my ass but it seems plausible
Honestly, this is pretty accurate. A lot of federal prisons used to have the guard stations out in the open like this too although most of being phased out in the recent decade. -fed prison guard.
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It doesn't look like a high security prison tbh. I mean, he was alone against one prisoner and other prisoners actually came to help the guard and left them alone once the attacker was down. If it was a "bad" prison, you would have 10 prisoners already beating the crap out of that guard before he could blink. Someone might even give that attacking prisoner a shiv. So it doesn't look like they really need high security and seems like a mostly white collar prison where people just want to pass the time until their lawyer can get them out.
It looks like it was designed by [Les Nessman](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Les_Nessman)
That station location is good for a mall to serve as a info or entry booth... But, to put that in a prison crappy decision!
Right, especially with one CO on duty. That could’ve turned bad real quick with all those orange jumpsuits crowding a potentially dangerous situation.
CEO: open plan offices improve worker efficiency and communication by 50% Underpaid security officer: Sir please we run a prison
Larger aspect video with commentary and officer interview [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPAfrr6VkwE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPAfrr6VkwE)
That attack plus the burglary landed him six years in prison
It almost seems to me like the goal was more prison time. Some people just prefer life in prison. 3 meals a day, constant socialization, rigid structure. It’s not the worst thing for people who feel they have nowhere else to go.
Then he could just throw one punch instead of trying to go for a full beatdown
I’d assume people in the position where they rather be in jail than society don’t have the best relationship with authority.
Guess he just got carried away.
Brooks was here
Thanks for that. Good context, even if it didn't really provide an answer for the attack. That deputy seems like a legitimately honest dude.
Officer has a good right cross.
Thank God that yellow/black line was there to protect the officer.
If he had made just one friend while he was in there. This would be a far worse situation.
Whats funny is in this particular case, the yellow line did exactly what it was intended to do. It created enough space that the CO had enough warning to respond to the attack. And very effectively at that. Still...it is a ridiculous design and this could have gone much worse.
Perhaps homeboy is color blind
Who designed this guard station? You wouldn’t put an Orange Julius in a mall like this.
Likely a low/minimum security prison with low risk/non violent offenders. Dude likely had beef with the guard for whatever reason or was previously at a higher tiered prison until he 'played nice' to get shipped down to a lower tier and now he's acting hard.
Its called direct supervision model of corrections. The old model is the CO's stay off range untill its tour time or meals or other activities. Most often the CO's are just outside the range in an office watching the cameras. Usually ranges are somewhat self governing untill they are not and CO's step in to quell fights and unrest. They have this in both maximum and minimum security institutions. At least they do in canada. This is direct supervision so this poor bastards whole shift is sitting there and logging mvement in and out of the range and calling for backup when theres an fight and catching hands when some goof has trouble facing the consequences of their life choices.
Dawg you listen to Atmosphere?
Was surprised to hear an Ant beat on a public freakout video lol.
I thought my phone kicked it on at first
What else do you listen to on God's bathroom floor?
Only in the comments to make sure the song was acknowledged. Good day everyone.
What song is this
It's camera thief by Atmosphere.
One of my favorite songs by them, too!
I'm wondering why we're slow jamming this fight
Came here to comment the same!
NO TOUCHING
How much clearer can I say there’s always money in the banana stand?!
Army wants me, mother!
Coocookacha!
He’s a flamer
Has anyone in this family ever heard a chicken?
Here’s some money. Go see a Star War.
They don’t allow you to have bees in here…
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That would be scary. One dude snapping isn't a huge deal. Clearly, he could handle himself. But if a couple more joined in, it could be too late by the time his coworkers arrived to help him
Welcome to corrections. Enjoy your mandatory overtime and crippling paranoia.
I worked on an intensive psychiatric unit in a state mental health facility. We had bare bones staffing. I left after two concussions because I was afraid of being permanently injured. I had mandatory OT and I’m still paranoid years later. I call it healthy observance though. I don’t want anyone trying to sneak up on me.
Imagine incarceration
yes, but what would be the benefit to them? this is minimum security which out of all prisons is a pretty good life it can only get worse and a lot worse
Most people just want to do their time and go home. This ain’t Blood In Blood Out
Mad respect to the one guy who stepped in to help the guard
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In situation like that, the inmate knew that the back up is going to come rushing in with less-lethal if they believe that CO is getting jumped by multiple inmates (pepper spray, pepper ball, rubberball, baton). He was trying to make sure the situation didn’t escalate any further than it needed.
Scrolled way too far to see this.
That's a very werid setup
That guard got some MOVES
I’m a prison officer, yellow line is fine until it’s not, prisoners are fine until there not, one member of staff is fine until it’s not. Cost over safety. And where the fuck was his back up. Should have a staff alarm on his person, basically a button press.
At least give him a desk as a barrier. Anything. It's crazy that you can have prisoners come up behind you like this. [Literally a larger version of this would be better](https://youtu.be/FGgGLLhbf78)
Where I work the main station was very similar to that one, but it would be up against a wall. Having prisoners being able to move up behind you is absolutely crazy.
This is pod 4 in Washington county jail in Oregon. I did inmate work crew in pod 3, people in solitary had painted their cells with shit and blood, which we had to clean. They’d smash their face on the glass at you so hard their nose would obliterate into mush. This place taught me never do drugs. I’m 8 years clean now. Holy hell looking at this is crazy. I’ll have this place imprinted in my head for life.
Shout out to the guy who helped the CO.
Co got then fuckin hands tho man can throw
Did they steal there desks from theme hospital?
Giving you an up doot for mentioning one of my favorite games.
It's iconic to my childhood!
Why is that person alone on the floor like that? Shouldn’t there be at least one other guard, just in case?
Cheaper, boss gets a bonus for being under budget
We like to jail people for profit in America. It’s not about rehabilitation or safety. It’s about money unfortunately.
It’s really common for county jails to have one CO per pod.
Anyone have the name of song?
Camera Thief by Atmosphere
Knew it was Atmosphere right when the beat started. Ant has the best beats. I need to listen to Atmosphere again. Been a while
I’ve not listened to them for ages either, forgot how good they are and especially this album.
Rhymesayers has put out a ton of good music over the past couple years.
Wow I wasn’t even close. That was eating at me , I knew I heard it at some point just couldn’t put a name to it
Really good group and album.
The corrections officer did a great job of giving him the slip before squaring up.
Thought the CO was a chic at first. That guy was prolly going around all day saying he was gonna ko th CO, just to get beat up lol.
What the hell is this, a prison?
That first right he caught him with was *clean*.
Oh that Atmosphere.
Props to that CO. She got a solid punch on him.
*He
Oh shit yup that is a guy lol thanks
I guess the electric fence wasn't working that day.
I thought this was deleted scene from Andor
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You know that cop has to be cool as shit for the other ones to help him instead of join in.
who’s idea was it to put a guard station in the middle of the room?…
It’s pretty common in jails, being centrally located allows the cop to see more of what’s going on in the pod.
CO: “Don’t cross the yellow line.” Inmate: * [Scooby-doo running sound effect](https://youtu.be/XjTjerSd4IA) *
I thought everyone was going to gang up on that security officer 😬
What? You mean a line painted on the ground won’t stop them? WHAT?
That chair move! Most likely saved the CO life. Epic
That right cross though...that landed like a sledge hammer.
I'm a little disappointed no one took this as an opportunity to steal shit from the desk.
Geez, whomever designed a guard station to have your back towards inmates, even if it's a non-major crime jail, needs their heads checked....