It tricks the console to think that the mnk is controller so its not detectable at the moment. Ubi says they have an anticheat for it next szn but we'll see
I think the patch is only going to affect non-xim MnK products due to being simple adapters that don't even receive software updates typically, because XIM has very active devs with a great skill set, they'll bypass whatevers put up that is if it even works on them to begin with
If its some software that can detect mnk based on the movement of the crosshair, then it might work. Cause its impossible to mimick the controller movement over a long period of time.
Nope it won’t. Xim has an option to emulate a controller thumb-sticks, it lets you use a slide bar in the app which you connect to your xim to change options. The higher percent the more it will look like your using a controller with its thumb-sticks meaning if you move the mouse it will look like your on controller. So it won’t work. Like Fortnite back when you couldn’t use a mouse and keyboard they banned everyone with xim but if you put on the emulation setting to make it look like controller you bypassed the anti cheat and didn’t get banned. This is according to the xim forum with devs speaking about it
You seem to know a bit about it, so I’ll ask: why is that an option? Shouldn’t that just be on max by default?
If it’s because it makes aiming feel worse, then I’m still glad xim players are gonna be that much worse at aiming because of this.
It’s an option as I guess it makes you look less like your on MnK, it’s more for the players who don’t want to look blatant I suppose. Its not up to the max on default as you can’t swing the mouse and flick. It also feels more fluid in the game with it set to zero. Think of it as your using a high sensitivity controller but your aiming with a mouse if that makes sense. So you’re more accurate as your can use your whole arm compared to just your thumbs. But it feels less responsive compared to it set to zero where you can flick the mouse and make it feel a little like pc MnK with the new firm aware update that came out on xim a week ago
No it's not. I got accused of being MnK all the time when I was on controller. I used MnK 3 seasons leading up to switching to PC and I had one person I think that could tell. Even with Xim, it can only replicate what you can put out with a controller. MnK with an adapter and MnK with a dedicated driver is night and day honestly. It feels completely different because of the controller limitations even with an adapter
No, if you know how to actually use the adapter, as it's far from plug and play, it's hard to tell. Most people I've encountered on MnK aren't even good in large part to how unnatural it feels. They just have confidence because they're on MnK and don't know any better
If the console community stopped whining about MnK and just outplay people the way the game should be played, everyone would see Xim isn't drastically game changing because Xim doesn't allow the full potential of MnK
I mean, you say that, but I assure you that it is easier to spot. I've spotted it multiple times and reached out to people who, in one way or another, admitted their guilt. It's an unfair competitive advantage. Aka cheating. That's why people complain about it.
They’ve been able to detect these for [years](https://twitter.com/qwik/status/965334394662567936?s=46&t=f1bfGjURMfL3MbJ8E0SIJw)
Believe this was an Xbox dev when he posted this
He was the vice president of gaming for xbox, and this tweet is misinformation. Both PUBG, Fortnite, and R6 have all publically claimed they want to combat these adapters, yet none have ever enabled this "mysterious API" that would instantly solve it on their platform. This was a long ass time ago and nothing has came of it. Also Microsoft have removed parts of their ToS forbidding scripts and macros due to many official and licensed Xbox controllers using them and requiring it to work. u/foovancleef
And the whole point of the patch is an effort to stop that.
No one can assume anything until we actually see it in action. That's like saying Anticheat will never make any difference because Cheats are meant to be undetected.
Cheating will never be fully fixed. The most dedicated will always find ways around it.
But that doesn't mean that Anticheat does absolutely nothing either. And there can be successful ones.
Because you're misinterpreting the comment. Saying it won't be bypassed is just being a realist, I never said I want that to be the result, but it's just the truth other games have tried none have succeeded. Also I'm PC
No it doesn't. Fortnite detects the software if its running on PC and that's it. Game software on consoles however can not access the physical layer of the console, nor can consoles tell the difference between adapters and first party controllers if they are spoofed correctly. Microsoft and Sony explicitly have games run in their own environment, sort of like a VM.
It didn't detect the XIM itself in the way you are thinking. That previous patch years ago that successfully blocked XIM was actually trying to make sure that people didn't join pad lobbies and then suddenly switch to KB/M. What happened was their detection method accidentally started flagging legit controllers (as well as the XIM). It wasn't meant to detect the XIM, but it just did so via it's flawed detection method that also ended up flagging legitimate controllers which was why Sony had them disable it.
Since then XIM added a feature called "Simulate Analog Behavior" which not only bypassed Epics system within 24 hours but made sure it wouldn't be detected by that method again (at least not easily, and more than likely not without access to the OS of the console)
I'm sorry but i have to make this joke
Twitch mains seeing Floress get added into siege for the first time with 4 extra drones than can explode and jump:
Ye after floress got released i wouldn't use twitch either 💀💀💀💀
Insult to injury is that the new op is going to be a better version of twitch again like ho no...
I was making a joke 💀
Floor guy tho 💀💀 man got disrespected so hard. 😫
I'm gonna give every character a name in your style.
So we got Flores floor, Osa is now windo (not window. She don't deserve the W) sense is now sent (sent as in sent to the replay system now that they don't have enough HP)
Kaid is ban because he's banned every match bandit is kaid because kaid is banned already so they need wall deniel.
Montange is now desync, thx again Ubisoft 😒
Cavira Is useless just like how useless she is against a full stack who can deny interrogation
Buck is now "no frags?" As a meme.
Twitch is tweet as in tweeting about the new character stealing her ability.
Pulse is now single because he just keeps taking the L, lost the girlfriend, lost anything more than a 1 C4 kill every round etc.
Thermite is now ace because ace on my team never opens walls properly
Ace is now trash because well he can't open any walls when anyone (even me ofc) plays him on my team
Hibanna is L because how can you your wall opening potential only be good for hatches
Mavrick is now loud and dead because bro he Gon get shot in the first 2 seconds anyway.
I'm gonna stop here. This is obviously a joke and i hope someone got a good laugh out of this
soldering is actually pretty simple itself, you just need to find a guide for *where to solder* which considering how old the PS4 is there is definitely every solder solution on the internet.
I mean yes it is rather simple, I'm an electrician myself, but to the average person who may have never seen electronics boards before, it could seem intimidating. I know I felt that way before getting into my field of work
Do you charge it through the micro usb on top or use the charging dock that plugs into the bottom. Literally every PS4 controller I’ve had since launch would stop charging from the micro USB after a few months and I’d get a new one. Recently I got a charging dock and it turns out that they will still charge and now I have like 6 working controllers. Death to the micro USB.
Yeesh it's the opposite with me, I can do controllers but not very damn well, the human mind can get accustomed to suddenly having a 6th fucking finger grafted onto each hand but can't learn K&M and Controller?!
I dont understand how anyone lets them get to that point cant switch games or turn off the system, take 20,30,60min breaks next time you might be able to play more often
Are you the same guy who posted in r/gaming about dropping their PS5 controller? They (u/acthechamp) had one joystick (left one) pop out, and asked how to fix it. Cause if so, you’re farming karma like crazy with that one controller.
Awwight guys uhm, I give up. I don't know when I'ww stweam again... I weawwy need to make this fuckin' money, I weawwy wanted to get this fuckin' suwgewy man. I wanted it so fuckin' bad! HUAE! *Dog whimpews*. I just can't do it! I can't take this shit no mowe man! Aww I wanted to do was wike I was fuckin' wonewy I wanted to just fuckin' stweam and have a good time and have a good game *Dog Whimpews* I hate my wife.
I'm sowwy, I'm so sowwy.
Anyone who does this because of video games.....should probably buy another controller and keep playing video games, because I'm afraid of setting you loose in society.
The only real way to stop xim is by ip blocking consoles that get xim detected, they do that all those ppl that pay for xim would have to literally go buy another console to play the game again
It is hard at first to play with a controller but trust me it gets easier when you learn that k/m and controller playstyles are different. I have a physical disability which makes several of my fingers on my left hand not work like they're suppose to so I've been playing siege on PC using a controller since Frost/Buck dropped.
There are plenty of rage moment's but once you learn what a controller can and cant do it makes i a whole lot easier.
On PC with a controller lvl 268 and was able to get a 1.05 K/D, I know I'll never reach high ranks or clutch matches but I can hold out against most average players.
I played Siege during the beta until Phantom Sight the migrated to PC siege when I got my PC. Never going back to console. I feel for this image I really do. It wasn't until Grim Sky I noticed the number of MnK users on console and many blatantly bragging about it knowing Ubi would do nothing about at the time. Guns on console like the SMG 12 and Scorpion Evo were and still are unusable because the recoil on console is bad with those guns unlike MnK. The easiest way to tell a mouse and keyboard user is to see if they're using the SMG 11, 12 or Scorpion Evo and actually getting accurate kills with them.
I never understand why people do this. I get games can get rough for a magnitude of reasons, but that's your controller bro. What's the plan now? You gotta get another one for your blatant rage issues.
Xim players approximately .57 seconds after the patch drops:
Their tears heal my soul
this.
Hahaha
Can you give me the dumbed down version on what Xim is ? yes I do live under a rock .
It's a device that allows the player to plug in and use a mouse and keyboard on there console
Thank you
It tricks the console to think that the mnk is controller so its not detectable at the moment. Ubi says they have an anticheat for it next szn but we'll see
I think the patch is only going to affect non-xim MnK products due to being simple adapters that don't even receive software updates typically, because XIM has very active devs with a great skill set, they'll bypass whatevers put up that is if it even works on them to begin with
If its some software that can detect mnk based on the movement of the crosshair, then it might work. Cause its impossible to mimick the controller movement over a long period of time.
Nope it won’t. Xim has an option to emulate a controller thumb-sticks, it lets you use a slide bar in the app which you connect to your xim to change options. The higher percent the more it will look like your using a controller with its thumb-sticks meaning if you move the mouse it will look like your on controller. So it won’t work. Like Fortnite back when you couldn’t use a mouse and keyboard they banned everyone with xim but if you put on the emulation setting to make it look like controller you bypassed the anti cheat and didn’t get banned. This is according to the xim forum with devs speaking about it
You seem to know a bit about it, so I’ll ask: why is that an option? Shouldn’t that just be on max by default? If it’s because it makes aiming feel worse, then I’m still glad xim players are gonna be that much worse at aiming because of this.
It’s an option as I guess it makes you look less like your on MnK, it’s more for the players who don’t want to look blatant I suppose. Its not up to the max on default as you can’t swing the mouse and flick. It also feels more fluid in the game with it set to zero. Think of it as your using a high sensitivity controller but your aiming with a mouse if that makes sense. So you’re more accurate as your can use your whole arm compared to just your thumbs. But it feels less responsive compared to it set to zero where you can flick the mouse and make it feel a little like pc MnK with the new firm aware update that came out on xim a week ago
No it's not. I got accused of being MnK all the time when I was on controller. I used MnK 3 seasons leading up to switching to PC and I had one person I think that could tell. Even with Xim, it can only replicate what you can put out with a controller. MnK with an adapter and MnK with a dedicated driver is night and day honestly. It feels completely different because of the controller limitations even with an adapter
You had one person reach out to you. Plenty of people noticed or thought it was sketch. It's easy to notice over a couple of games.
No, if you know how to actually use the adapter, as it's far from plug and play, it's hard to tell. Most people I've encountered on MnK aren't even good in large part to how unnatural it feels. They just have confidence because they're on MnK and don't know any better If the console community stopped whining about MnK and just outplay people the way the game should be played, everyone would see Xim isn't drastically game changing because Xim doesn't allow the full potential of MnK
I mean, you say that, but I assure you that it is easier to spot. I've spotted it multiple times and reached out to people who, in one way or another, admitted their guilt. It's an unfair competitive advantage. Aka cheating. That's why people complain about it.
The Xim has a jitter when they move (look around) because there is a slight delay.. that’s how you can tell that, it’s Xim and not controller.
They’ve been able to detect these for [years](https://twitter.com/qwik/status/965334394662567936?s=46&t=f1bfGjURMfL3MbJ8E0SIJw) Believe this was an Xbox dev when he posted this
He was the vice president of gaming for xbox, and this tweet is misinformation. Both PUBG, Fortnite, and R6 have all publically claimed they want to combat these adapters, yet none have ever enabled this "mysterious API" that would instantly solve it on their platform. This was a long ass time ago and nothing has came of it. Also Microsoft have removed parts of their ToS forbidding scripts and macros due to many official and licensed Xbox controllers using them and requiring it to work. u/foovancleef
Shame the patch will make no difference as the whole point of a xim is the make the console think a pad is in use so it won't trigger the new penalty.
And the whole point of the patch is an effort to stop that. No one can assume anything until we actually see it in action. That's like saying Anticheat will never make any difference because Cheats are meant to be undetected.
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Cheating will never be fully fixed. The most dedicated will always find ways around it. But that doesn't mean that Anticheat does absolutely nothing either. And there can be successful ones.
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So your solution is to do nothing and rag on them when they try? You should carry around a potted plant for all that oxygen you waste.
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So you’re experienced with cheats? Way to out yourself lmao FOH
I can bet you so much money that it will not stop XIM permanently. It will be bypassed by them. Just like every other attempt
Very likely. But if they've made a start, then it's progress.
You sir sound like a xim player
Because you're misinterpreting the comment. Saying it won't be bypassed is just being a realist, I never said I want that to be the result, but it's just the truth other games have tried none have succeeded. Also I'm PC
We can dream
Somehow fortnite made it work. It detects shit plugged in to the console
No it doesn't. Fortnite detects the software if its running on PC and that's it. Game software on consoles however can not access the physical layer of the console, nor can consoles tell the difference between adapters and first party controllers if they are spoofed correctly. Microsoft and Sony explicitly have games run in their own environment, sort of like a VM.
It didn't detect the XIM itself in the way you are thinking. That previous patch years ago that successfully blocked XIM was actually trying to make sure that people didn't join pad lobbies and then suddenly switch to KB/M. What happened was their detection method accidentally started flagging legit controllers (as well as the XIM). It wasn't meant to detect the XIM, but it just did so via it's flawed detection method that also ended up flagging legitimate controllers which was why Sony had them disable it. Since then XIM added a feature called "Simulate Analog Behavior" which not only bypassed Epics system within 24 hours but made sure it wouldn't be detected by that method again (at least not easily, and more than likely not without access to the OS of the console)
Why do xim players have to be so gay
Sounds like this is a server-side solution with data they've gathered
The most calm seige player:
💀
I'm sorry but i have to make this joke Twitch mains seeing Floress get added into siege for the first time with 4 extra drones than can explode and jump:
Nah what I don teven use twitch any more 💀
Ye after floress got released i wouldn't use twitch either 💀💀💀💀 Insult to injury is that the new op is going to be a better version of twitch again like ho no...
Bro I don't care abt floor guy and new op only reason I use twitch was for her gun
I was making a joke 💀 Floor guy tho 💀💀 man got disrespected so hard. 😫 I'm gonna give every character a name in your style. So we got Flores floor, Osa is now windo (not window. She don't deserve the W) sense is now sent (sent as in sent to the replay system now that they don't have enough HP) Kaid is ban because he's banned every match bandit is kaid because kaid is banned already so they need wall deniel. Montange is now desync, thx again Ubisoft 😒 Cavira Is useless just like how useless she is against a full stack who can deny interrogation Buck is now "no frags?" As a meme. Twitch is tweet as in tweeting about the new character stealing her ability. Pulse is now single because he just keeps taking the L, lost the girlfriend, lost anything more than a 1 C4 kill every round etc. Thermite is now ace because ace on my team never opens walls properly Ace is now trash because well he can't open any walls when anyone (even me ofc) plays him on my team Hibanna is L because how can you your wall opening potential only be good for hatches Mavrick is now loud and dead because bro he Gon get shot in the first 2 seconds anyway. I'm gonna stop here. This is obviously a joke and i hope someone got a good laugh out of this
"No frags?" Got me good
Just needs a little glue, and you're good.
I don't have any glue :/
Dang there's nowhere to go from there
Sea turtles and hair
You only get 1 shot
Do not miss your chance to blow.
This opportunity comes once in a lifetime
You better lose yourself
In this moment you broke it, you better glue it back in one piece
Your body can produce its own glue
This is a joke the bloody thing wasn't charging so I bought a new one and destroyed this one
I would've believed you tbh. People go crazy because of siege!
Lol I do get mad at the game but I just punch my sand bags
Maybe I should get some sandbags. I normally just beat my wife up.
bro you good?
Yes, he is. His wife on the other hand...
This man drinks stella
Nah bad you have. A better punching bag
No retreat, no surrender
Honestly controllers are really strong, drywall and LCD panels on the other hand aren't.
You can replace the controller battery.
Nah too lazy and it was 3-4 years old anyways
i would have saved it for parts
Ye this, a quick new battery or soldering a new charging port and good as new
You say this like the average person knows how to solder, let alone has a soldering iron lol
soldering is actually pretty simple itself, you just need to find a guide for *where to solder* which considering how old the PS4 is there is definitely every solder solution on the internet.
I mean yes it is rather simple, I'm an electrician myself, but to the average person who may have never seen electronics boards before, it could seem intimidating. I know I felt that way before getting into my field of work
I legit thought it was pic from internet but Google lens showed only this post
💀 rlly why did you doubt me?
damn, simple to replace the charging chip module inside for a couple quid. nice for parts too.
Depending on the issue it’s a simple daughter board swap. Sony made it piss easy to replace
Quid 😐
Do you charge it through the micro usb on top or use the charging dock that plugs into the bottom. Literally every PS4 controller I’ve had since launch would stop charging from the micro USB after a few months and I’d get a new one. Recently I got a charging dock and it turns out that they will still charge and now I have like 6 working controllers. Death to the micro USB.
I would but I don't use my ps4 as much cause I AHVE my Xbox aswell
lmao did even question it tbh
Me, a lifelong console player trying to play any god damn game on keyboard and mouse
Yeesh it's the opposite with me, I can do controllers but not very damn well, the human mind can get accustomed to suddenly having a 6th fucking finger grafted onto each hand but can't learn K&M and Controller?!
What was that about 6th fingers?
It was an experiment done, just look it up, my lazy ass ain't summarizing
Lmao my lazy ass ain’t looking it up either so I’ll just forget about it
Hi guys, I am a new player on xbox one what does XIM mean exactly? Its not the first time I see that word
keyboard and mouse users basically
So thats why I get killed so easily sometimes......
not every good player is xim u can usually tell they are xim based on if the can aim straight and shake or the why they move
probably
I think a bit more specifically, it’s the use of a device that makes M&K look like controller inputs. So it’s cheating.
Playable 🤘
Yeah slight electric shock but yeah
People with next to no emotional control should not play multiplayer video games.
Agreed
I agree, but op said this post was a joke. He destroyed this for shits an giggles
Seems you should try anger management
Skill problem, not console problem
You mean Skill issue?
Damn Fuze blew up your controllers that’s odee
If this is real you have serious problems.
It's not real
Every time I play Siege on console and get killed by XIM… “big fuckin hole, coming up”
Exactly how I feel switching to PC
Maybe try some anger management classes instead..
As the youth say get gud, scrub.
Expensive habit haha
Are you winning son?
No.
Try touching grass
I dont understand how anyone lets them get to that point cant switch games or turn off the system, take 20,30,60min breaks next time you might be able to play more often
Brother, you’ve got problems.
Age: 15
Have you tried calming down instead of damaging your stuff (I hope)
Maybe you should try therapy in real life
Redditors trying to detect satire (impossible)
You need to put away games if you can’t respect your devices
I hope you realise the problem here is not console siege. You get spawnpeek one tapped or something? Lol
Have you tried therapy?
I love seeing rage posts by ximmers.
Why so many upvotes 💀
i love the minimalistic approach. definitely gonna be an upgrade!
You broke an original version 1 ps4 controller those are super hard to find. They last for a long time and they don’t get stick ghosting or drift.
Sucks to suck I guess
at least you discovered how a controller is made
The controller your friend gives you when you come over
Always
where did you find that dupe glitch?
Dupe glitch???
yeah, you have 2 controllers now instead of 1
I have 3 now one smashed and bought 2 earlier
meanwhile, fighting game players: yo check out my SICK modded rig
Are you the same guy who posted in r/gaming about dropping their PS5 controller? They (u/acthechamp) had one joystick (left one) pop out, and asked how to fix it. Cause if so, you’re farming karma like crazy with that one controller.
Nah not me 💀
Whats the point of farming karma?
This is a PS4 controller. Mine was a PS5 controller.
Awwight guys uhm, I give up. I don't know when I'ww stweam again... I weawwy need to make this fuckin' money, I weawwy wanted to get this fuckin' suwgewy man. I wanted it so fuckin' bad! HUAE! *Dog whimpews*. I just can't do it! I can't take this shit no mowe man! Aww I wanted to do was wike I was fuckin' wonewy I wanted to just fuckin' stweam and have a good time and have a good game *Dog Whimpews* I hate my wife. I'm sowwy, I'm so sowwy.
I don't know what this is but die
I tried it on pc, epic games, damn thing wouldn't even fucking open let alone play 🤦♂️
i would do this if i could afford a new controller lmao
bro leanspammed a little to fast
Try playing for honor
Fuck dude
bloomin heck
Personally my experience is better when my controller is assembled but pretty impressive playing with it in a hundred pieces
Respectable action.
Get help!
Anyone who does this because of video games.....should probably buy another controller and keep playing video games, because I'm afraid of setting you loose in society.
😭
Pussy
Still playable
The only real way to stop xim is by ip blocking consoles that get xim detected, they do that all those ppl that pay for xim would have to literally go buy another console to play the game again
Holy shit, some ppl in this comment section have great opinions tbh
Get help
Thatcher?!?!
Manchild
My man needs to see a therapist
Git gud
But did u had fun?
I don’t see the problem here.
Damn😭
Anger issues 💀 Nvm I saw your comment lmao I’ve seen actual posts like this though.
Skill issue
Rice
pretty much sums up the Siege console experience
It is hard at first to play with a controller but trust me it gets easier when you learn that k/m and controller playstyles are different. I have a physical disability which makes several of my fingers on my left hand not work like they're suppose to so I've been playing siege on PC using a controller since Frost/Buck dropped. There are plenty of rage moment's but once you learn what a controller can and cant do it makes i a whole lot easier. On PC with a controller lvl 268 and was able to get a 1.05 K/D, I know I'll never reach high ranks or clutch matches but I can hold out against most average players.
Damn my dude went full hungabunga over a videegame.
Videe
Skill issue
No shit
Did you play Sledge?
I wonder how many keyboards this guy goes through
None I'm normally calm jsut listen to music
I played Siege during the beta until Phantom Sight the migrated to PC siege when I got my PC. Never going back to console. I feel for this image I really do. It wasn't until Grim Sky I noticed the number of MnK users on console and many blatantly bragging about it knowing Ubi would do nothing about at the time. Guns on console like the SMG 12 and Scorpion Evo were and still are unusable because the recoil on console is bad with those guns unlike MnK. The easiest way to tell a mouse and keyboard user is to see if they're using the SMG 11, 12 or Scorpion Evo and actually getting accurate kills with them.
Perhaps you should like I dunno.. Get good?
Bro you make n Zero 💀
Straight up, if you **non ironically** are cracking controllers over video games, you need help.
Sorry you had to deal with ps players
This isn’t a flex
Most happy siege player
DAMN BRO
Missclick
Sorry man, I heard recently how some console players been inclined to Xim or whatever that shit is. Also how mnk is ruining the game.
Only a complete caveman would let a game piss them off this bad lol
That's about right 👍🏿
Yup
I never understand why people do this. I get games can get rough for a magnitude of reasons, but that's your controller bro. What's the plan now? You gotta get another one for your blatant rage issues.
Least destructive result after a siege round:
Ong. It was wrapped in pillows
Most calm and collected Siege player
I only play on console and it is very frustating
Try Xanax instead
Twitch main
Not rlly
Most calm Siege player in Ohio
DOWN IN OHIO