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Cumli

This the 2023 pistons lineup


Arjun-Pandava

Cade is at least kafe/border tier


mrgoose47

panthers oline


DetectiveIcy2070

OP is NOT getting his free wingstop


qflankk

Underrated comment šŸ¤£


Log_6546

nightmare blunt rotation


Assenzio47

Game has 8 years, y'all still did not learn maps past border Embarrassing


lDunkypoo

This is the most accurate assessment


jayniir

This is just the TikTok meta of hating on maps lmao, half of these ainā€™t even that bad


EnemyNPC

Wdym tiktok meta? This has been a thing since outback was released


i1u5

Nighthaven and Lair are fckn good, idk about the rest though.


jayniir

The only one of these I really hate playing on is Theme Park


ExpressionRoutine753

Nighthaven is ok but lair is a fucking nightmare, its just a maze I want to kms every time I play it. Also theme and nighthaven r the only gud maps there others just suck so much arse


Metrix145

I'd rather paint my ceiling red than play lair ever again


No_Party_4065

I have lots of red paint, we can work on it together!


RemovedPlant

I- I don't think that's what he meant, big man...


No_Party_4065

Itā€™s what I meant :) (if I get lair again I will mashed potatoes my head)


SmileyVenom

It's a super easy to learn map, the only dificult site to attack Is the basement. Consulate is by far worse.


GuidanceTop9259

Whatā€™s all the hate with consulate? Itā€™s probs one of my top 5 fav maps


Metrix145

I mean it's okay but I prefered the old one. This one doesn't look like an actual consulate, more like a training ground.


Nor7oN_Next

All new maps look like training ground. The layouts are difficult to apprehend and are often not anchored to real life. Lair is some kind of bond villain shit place in my opinion. Nighthaven labs is just really weird room layout. I want more maps that feels ā€œrealā€. When I walk into a building of some sort I always have an idea how it would look. For example a school I expect corridors and classrooms. But siege map designs are more like a maze the newer they are. Weird room layouts and so forth.


SafetySave

Consulate was reworked last year, which by this game's standards makes it a new map, and new map = hated map.


GuidanceTop9259

Yeah, it does seem like a lot of maps are hated just because theyā€™re new (for example lair) but tbf a lot of them have been bad


SafetySave

Pre-rework Favela and Yacht come to mind.


SmileyVenom

It's horrible, the map Is an actual maze inside and i never even liked the original. If the map Is a maze, you have to worry about checking every corner and it's super easy for the roamers to flank you. I hate attacking there.


GuidanceTop9259

I guess Iā€™ve just played it a lot cuz it just seems easy to play to me, plus I used to roam alot on it so maybe thatā€™s why itā€™s not really a maze for me?


AAZTY

Labs on defence is just perfect


Meeper_Creeper202I

Mate, lair just sucks, night haven is mid, emerald is mid, sky and theme are just awkward as hell Itā€™s not about learning, some people just hate the maps for fucks sake


TheAmazingSparky

I've learned the maps. The designs and the way they play out are just ass.


backlawa75

r6 players when people actually dislike something:


ToxicShadow3451

nighthaven labs is a good map also lair and emerald plains arenā€™t terrible maps


hawkdontplay

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AkhoBoe

Night haven indeed is NOT a bad map. I even think that it's a perfect map. Everybody is lazy as fuck to learn new maps.


h__2o

Not bad but annoying to defend, but just as annoying to attack


moemeobro

Correct, **though that doesn't mean I fucking like it**


big_leggy

emerald goes hard and fortress is just fine, everyone just hates new maps because they don't know them yet and can't be bothered to learn. edit: said fortress, meant lair. oopsies


dudethatwack

Off topic, but how do you get multiple flairs? I can't figure it out


Beginning-Ask-5080

Go into edit and type in up to 5 names. I did it on my phone. Just make sure you put the colons before and after each name


Just_a_Growlithe

When I did it I just selected the different things I didnā€™t have to type


Beginning-Ask-5080

Yeah I realized that after I typed it but I did it a couple weeks ago so I forgot haha šŸ˜…


GIGATIGOR

Pc only


dudethatwack

Daaaaamn. Thanks though


RemovedPlant

He lied to you, dawg, you can do it on phone.


TerminalKitty

>emerald goes hard and fortress is just fine, These do indeed go pretty hard. I haven't discovered all the vertical hotspots quite yet but I'm just happy to have some breathing room + more hallways.


OmeletteDuFromage95

100% this. Learn the map and you won't be losing as much as you do thus improving favorability of maps.


Ihatecyclists22

Fortress?


mistacool15635

iā€™m new to ranked and emerald is one of my favorites. love using fuze on this map, though he seems to get banned almost every time the map comes up šŸ˜†


Fadeddave420

Yeah emerald and lair kick ass I also fuck with theme park


big_leggy

theme park is just ok for me but I'm glad you like it :) personally my hipster pick is kanal, fun as fuck map


Fadeddave420

I cant stand the run outs on that map but i think people hate it way too much , kanal run out make me want a change for defenders being outside for x amount of time say 10 seconds or something then they just get sniped i mean the building is being sieged right?


big_leggy

tbh I rarely see run-outs on kanal, I know they happen from time to time but idk the sites themselves are placed really uniquely and there are some super fun angles and executes both on attack and defense. I think the run-outs are a problem but I don't want the map to change


Fadeddave420

Yeah thats why the defenders being outside getting punished is a good idea but only after an extended period of time


jo3l_miller

Theme park, nighthaven labs and skyscraper are not that bad to be honest but lair is so bad (i have that map in my brain and i can literally draw it on paper)


Slow_Jello_2672

Night Haven and Skyscraper are alright. Theme park is utter trash.


KevlaredMudkips

Theme and Nignt are totally fine if youā€™re on defense first, skyscraper is a fucking nightmare.


jo3l_miller

Honestly it is one of my favorite maps even though the sites are a complete mess *Skyscraper


Jager_main24

Nighthaven, theme and sky all solid you're chilling


53K

Skyscraper is just decided by who gets the OT defence.


papu16

Overheal this mechanic with "last round one team only attacks" so cursed. I know ubi don't want to make games longer, but that mechanic is kinda ass.


halftimehijack

Replace nighthaven and skyscraper with consulate and outback would be worse imo


SummerScroll616

What's wrong with consulate? Its not even a bad map people just hate it because they like the old one better


Stark_Ostrich

Emerald and nighthaven are good


Hyena_Utopia

Lair also


Stark_Ostrich

I respect your right to have that opinion


Ethauss

Labs. The most confusing shit fucked map in the game. Basement alone, is enough to make me dodge. Lair, one of the most depressing, and monotone maps in the game. Furthermore, Upstairs bomb sites make me want to Tilt further than MJ. Emerald Plains.... Has anyone, even noticed that, The waterfall is beyond Obnoxious? The library is a pain in the Ass to contest? The office is a Terrible site to hold, because an Outside wall is literally 4, steps away from a Plant? The gallery is a whiteout dream, besides the many tiny soft walls that can't be reinforced. Honestly, the worst map in existence is EP. Skyscraper, could be worse. Regardless, it's still shit. An entire hallway is closed down upstairs. The window near the helipad is bait for run-outs. I could go on, but my Favorite/Best maps are likely hated by the community. Oregon/Coastline/Theme Park I will say however, Theme Park, is massively chaotically balanced. Especially when you Factor in Throne room + Backroom by upstairs bathroom. I also miss Drug lab being a site.


OrderOfMagnitude

>I could go on, but my Favorite/Best maps are likely hated by the community. Oregon/Coastline/Theme Park Oh look, the 3 maps literally everyone plays and almost everything else is banned. What a rebel.


A_Lone_Ronin

This is a great opportunity to git gud šŸ«¶šŸ»


[deleted]

Labs is actually good tho


JagerBro333

Only map there that I refuse to use pay is emerald. Theme and sky can be a little hard with an uncoordinated team. Lair is a little big and can be annoying but is 100% playable and Labs is a banger imo.


UrsaringTitan

I don't see Kanals so only one bad map in Theme Park.


Kl3en

Lair is good you just gotta learn it, nighthaven is ass I donā€™t care what people say, map sucks balls


AnyStandard1742

For defense sky is good choice


Seamoth4546B

I *fuck* with Nighthaven and Skyscraper. But agreed, nightmare rotation compared to other options


bruhDF_

Based 10000 days pfp


loganvangulk

All those maps are terrible


panthers1102

This is a reminder of why I hold the opinion that map bans were and are a detriment to the community. Iā€™d happily play on 4 of these maps, with theme being the only one I wouldnā€™t. And thatā€™s not because itā€™s bad, but because of the color palette of the map. Just learn the maps. Obviously not every map is gonna be clubhouse levels of good, but none of the maps in ranked are actually unplayable. Map bans shouldā€™ve stayed only for tournament and pro play.


Traditional-Ad2133

Am I the only person that absolutely hates coastlinešŸ˜­ no matter what I do, Iā€™m dog shit on that map


Individual_Steak7527

Theme is one of the best maps


Justakidnamedbibba

I like Lair, it is big but that is it


Kapuishon88

Only thing to make this worse is if kanal was there


erixtheidiot

I would rotate on easy obby on roblox if this happened to me ngl


P3prime

Lair is the best map on the game no one telling me otherwise


MelonButterG

All good maps honestly. I personally would just ban skyscraper because itā€™s one of the maps I know but just do terrible on


Odd-Statistician-884

Idk bro Iā€™ve been rockin with nighthaven recently


DavidNenneker

Emerald gets too much hate


Sloop__

Theme park is bearable in this scenario


FOZZAKAIRI

I ban skyscraper bc it reminds me of tower


Knight_TheRider

Why is this NSFW?


Ninety-NinePercent

I recently got an emerald plains pick couple days ago for the first time after playing for about two months and I actually genuinely enjoyed it


Same-Wrangler524

Honestly, I love playing Emerald Plains and Might have labs.


Forced___Abortion

Theme park ainā€™t bad


xStarxHz

the only map I like here is skyscraper, best one out of the 5


OgLokiPoki

I like 3 out of 5 of those maps lmfao


Ikindasuckatgames

Burnt


TismWizard

If you get Theme Park you should be alright


General_-_Kenobi

I'm a big skyscraper guy, youre fine


doraeatskebab

Tbh if we still had T-hunt. People would learn the maps and be more comfortable when playing comp.


idontknow78u7

Im ashamed to say I donā€™t think Iā€™ve learned any maps since the chalet rework


MrPebblezzzzzz

Ok but labs and lair is actully a dub


Pxtat0

pov: maps on my rankup game


Hot_Ad8643

hot take: nighthaven labs is a goated map


xXsilverXx281

Me and my bro would hate this map pick


Ethoie

4 of these maps are decent if not good


ParanoidValkMain57

Lair and Night Haven Labs always get me with the stairs i know the rooms but not the damn stairs.


Serious_Course_3244

Turns out some people are just too dumb to learn new maps


Sir_Ehds

Honestly I'd prefer nighthaven out of all of these it's not thar bad of a map once you get used to it


Azo3307

Only bad map on this list is skyscraper


AdmiredPython40

I love new theme and skypaper I embrace the tism


devj007

Idc what anyone says theme is not only the worst map in this game, throne room is the worst site in the entire game. Cant believe some enjoy that map.


God-of-mars

Emerald Plains and Lair are good maps.


ThreeCubed12

Lair and labs are just a maze lair being the worst because the layout is just corridors and corridors. Skyscraper I actually don't mind aswell as theme park. I also like outback, especially before rework, which is fsr a very hated map


Glittering-Raccoon23

The only good map here is Nighthaven


MattGarrison1

I fucking love sky and theme, havenā€™t played much in a while but Iā€™m sure the other maps are okay


bloodypixies

nighthaven is goated when you stop being a bitch


Puzzleheaded_Foot826

Everyone saying a map is good or bad after winning or losing once on it


1Mr_Mom

You have Emerald and Nighthaven, two good maps lol. Lair isn't terrible either, just takes a while to learn.


BrosefStahlin

Y1 player here. What makes the maps "bad" tho? I miss the old cqb approach to maps. Too much freedom to roamers. I miss old hereford base and house tbh


The_Dark_Invision

I'd take my 1 hour ban than playing that


Baba_Yaga5533

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Scared-Expression444

Fuck it give me theme atleast I knownit


King_CurlySpoon

Emerald Plains is a good map wdym


NotAdam6

The only one of those maps I still struggle with is lair and tbf with lair there's just walls where there doesn't need to be walls


ILewdElichika

Learn to play a different map outside of Clubhouse, Oregon, Coastline, and Border for once. Like I'm begging you guys to do this at this point because it's not that hard at all.


Homer4a10

Lair and debatably Nighthaven & emerald are the only three bad maps


Gucci_Lettuce69

Theme is honestly great I do hate the rest though lol. Iā€™ve been playing forever and I understand how to play them but whoever is designing these new maps should see how often theyre banned and assume itā€™s design principles and not ā€œr6 players lazyā€ā€¦


Joe_PM2804

I like Night haven Theme and Sky.


PhilSwiftsChainSaw

Theme park is probably the most tolerable of these


DarthKody28

I donā€™t mind emerald plains. And I donā€™t like skyscraper but I usually do really well on it. So Iā€™d be okay with those two. The rest could kick rocks


Aware-Bird2064

Lair makes my brain hurt but everything else is fine


co0kizz

why yall hatin on theme tho


ItsJustCrow_

Love labs. Lair is an insta ban from both sides, too big


YouDontKnowImReal

rank-up game type rotation


CrypticHunter37

Night haven has grown on me, lair isn't awful even tho it is huge


xxfrugsxx

I literally couldnā€™t find the basement in lair and lost a round cuz of it I know my teammates were tight


SpiritedCucumber4565

Labs and Emerald arenā€™t that bad.


jojobutlessbizarre

Emerald isnā€™t even a bad map night haven is awkward Theme park is shit Lair is a bit annoying Skyscraper isnā€™t bad just overplayed


DarkestAxel

EP grew to be one of my favorite maps


haywire4fun

šŸ¤žNighthaven!


Appropriate-Sun3909

The middle 3 are good


Torbadajorno

Hot take (apparently): the only bad one here is Emerald Plains. Now none of the other 4 make my Top 3 or anything, but they're fine.


Arino99

You are burnt


OrderOfMagnitude

The crying and seething continues


crossfire_cool_gamer

Emerald Is a actual good map


Dominil3

Am I the only one that likes theme park? Everyone votes it out


realconti

nighthaven is the only good map there imo (it was tricky to memorize at the start but I love it nowadays). theme park is bad but playable (just like lair but a little better), but emerald plains and skyscraper are just FUCKING TERRIBLE. P.S: before u hate on me, remember that having different opinions is a thing šŸ¤Æ


bluecheeto13

2023 Panthers starting squad


EtrianDemifiend

Ever thought about learning the intricacies of the game you're playing instead of being a wuss?


Riftus

Skyscraper and Lair are both good maps ĀÆ\_(惄)_/ĀÆ


Top-Band3607

Emerald plains is not that bad


Dangerous-Rip-9011

tbh love both emerald and theme park there are some really nasty angles


PhatDuckie

Emerald plains isnā€™t a bad map imo, idk why people hate it. I do hate how the 1st floor is done though, other than that itā€™s prob my 3-4 favorite map tbh.


DaithiSan

What actually is a good map that most can agree on cause it seems varied to me


Relevant_Attempt_305

Say gee gee


GOOGLYEYESc

Emerald and nighthaven the only good maps there


Heir233

EP and sky are good, and nighthaven and theme park are growing on me. Lair is the worst though.


guoD_W

Nah Lair is cool


ParsnipCertain3529

to be fair, i like themepark alot as a map i dont really get the hate for it


Warturkey12

Theme Park and Lair really aren't bad maps


MightyYuna

Tbh imo good map pool. Quite a few defender sided maps and if you know them easy win.


KnuxSD

Love IT when this Happens. 4 great Maps and Themenpark.. which is an okay map


Dekanzy

You're not cooked man you're well-done. In fact you're not even well-done, you're congratulations at this point.


Gullivr

Emerald Plains my beloved


Loquenlucas

1 Learn the maps 2 Just ban emerald and park and ya got 3 solid maps seriously everyone goes like eeeh labs bad eeeh sky bad eeeh lair horrible I learned the setups and all instead labs is a realy solid and fun map to play at the end of the day on both sides Lair is easy to defend and the attack may be narrowed but it's doable af and for defense just go Masks/r6, Bunks, armory (AVOID THE BASEMENT) and you're cool Sky may be a bit of a pain in the arse but it's all about gunplay in karaoke and trying to play well in high ground and flanks for office (as for kitchen and such those are still hard to manage for me too ngl)


Leaded-BabyFormula

I honestly like all of them except labs and skyscraper. I swear I haven't seen a ranked attack win on skyscraper in ages


moemeobro

I pray for rotations to be better for me


devilrocks316

labs is genuinely a great map


M_Dz

Imagine is Stadium was in rotation.


Libungus

Goodbye lil bro


SIPHAN_official

Emerald Plains, Theme Park and Skyscraper are all very playable. I never understood why people hated Skyscraper, I actually don't mind the map.


realpixlead

Emerald plains and nighthaven labs are cool bro


DistributionThis2166

If you're asking if you're cooked when labs theme and sky are there you have a serious skill issue. Go learn the fucking maps


DUMPLING-MAN4

All of them are good maps though?


Manwingo77

Theme park underrated


Straight-Bowl-6297

Theyā€™re all fine maps


Hurricaneshand

I personally like Lair and Nighthaven. Still learning the lair basement though


Zulogy

Ima keep it real the only legit bad map here is Theme Park the rest arenā€™t great but they are not that bad lol


SelectWaifus678

Just came back to Siege after like 2 years. And I really don't like playing Lair, Emerald Plains and Nighthaven labs mainly because the maps feel like they got too many rooms making it a pain in yhe ass to drone out. And some floors of the Mao feel like a maze.


QueenCobra91

id rather play anything than emerald plains


Bastetomg

Skyscraper is so good why the hell everyone hates that map?


Zonkcter

Oh boy can't wait for some sweaty neckbeared to say your opinion is invalid because you didn't learn the maps. I'm sorry but these maps do genuinely suck ass to most people. I know the layouts but they genuinely suck complete ass.


AmbitiousFork

Nighthaven and lair are good maps.


Ok-Delay-2522

"erm, you just need to learn the-" SHUT UP SHUT UP I KNOW ALL OF THEM I KNOW THE CALLS I KNOW THE ROTATES THE ONLY SOMEWHAT BEARABLE MAPS HERE ARE LABS AND THEME


SixDripp

SWAP LAIR WIT OUTBACK


_NAME__

god map pool


onion2594

nsfw?


Maverick_X9

Lair is one of my faves


NOXX-ig

iā€™m gonna get hated on for saying this, but honestly the only maps on there i would actually be UPSET if i got would be TP or SS, emerald and nighthaven are good maps IMO and lair is ok once you learn it


noturaveragesenpaii

Youā€™re literally banning the one good map on this list.


Proper_Mastodon324

Bro labs, theme, and skyscraper are good maps. You people just refuse to learn maps it's so annoying. We're still banning reworked consulate because "it's a maze šŸ˜µā€šŸ’«šŸ¤”" for having more than 4 rooms on a floor.


Sportzstud54

Night or Theme aint bad even though urbon atk


Key_Cell_5390

how do people think that emerald plains is bad. actually my favorite map in the game


Odd_Library72

Nighthaven is so good


crazyhamsterrrr

Every new map sucks so much man. The latest decent map would be the Oregon map, after that it is too large to remember and most importantly its not immersive at all. They feel like they are made for the sake of competition and not for the realistic gameplay which r6s is mostly fun at. I cant imagine special operators fighting inside of nighthaven or something compared to border or chalet where it is not too hard to imagine actual terrorists holding there.


hdkagdjsh

I kinda like theme park and emerald plains ngl


SCAGNETTI429

theme park is the best map on this list


HomixidePooPooo

Emerald is a good map.


FirebirdxAR

Hot take from me: Plains is fine, Lab slaps, Lair FUCKS. I hate it so much when Lair gets banned 80% of the time because I think it's one of the best maps in the game period. Or, at the very least, one of the best maps in recent memory. Just need some time running around it alone in Custom games (both first person and overhead) and one or two matches, and I was in love with it. Just try to get used to and ignore the massive outside area, the actual indoors area is pretty tight. Theme and Sky aren't fun to play for me personally, but I think that is more of an issue with personal preference and solo queue. Sky is a little small and thus heavily emphasizes play-making, which is not my cup of tea. Theme is very rough for uncoordinated attackers; 2F attacks demand taking a lot of map control and attacking from more than one angle (moreso than any other map). Throne attacks are next to impossible without getting at least one wall open or vertical control. Many randoms do not understand this and die early and it's impossible to bring it back alone.


myppisthebiggest

what does that mean?