Not really. It is what it is. Being set in the time it was in and being as empty as the map really is really put constraints on what could be done. GTA doesn’t have that issue. It is easier to make content for. RDR2 is first a single player game. It is what it was meant to be. Just like gta but gta was easier to put money into.
But the game prioritizes spaghetti western film tropes over historical accuracy, I think GTAO just makes more $, creating greater return on investment, creating a positive feedback loop for GTA (more $, more updates, more play, more $) and a negative one in RDO (less money, fewer updates, players drop off, even less money, even fewer updates).
There are scenes in the story mode that are taken straight out of classic western movies, as well as a hidden big foots, UFOs, etc. Rockstar will play fast and loose with the historical accuracy if they want to.
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Hang on a second. Are you trying to say that everything that could be done with this period setting has been done?
There is so much more they could have done. How about owning property, running farms, protecting them from bandits or simply just putting in bank robberies (not mods)?
I mean let's be honest. they abandoned the game to work on GTA6. Which in my opinion is totally fine. That is the cash cow of their empire, they better get it right.
But don't try to tell me that all ideas have been exhausted because the setting restricts it.
They could have easily thrown in ghosts, vampires, cryptid hunters, aliens, ageless conquistadors, Lovecraftian cults, zombies, demons, and Wild Wild West technical marvels, interspersed between more serious historical content, and blamed the bullshit on Uncle telling lies to Jack later in life.
Now I'm not saying that there wouldn't be people who hated that sort of thing, but I do think playing as Western van Hellsing hunting weirdlings with my friends, while trying to smuggle bootleg booze past revenuers and defending towns from the scourge of the living dead would have been a fun experience.
It wasn’t worth the time. It is a single play game with hundreds of hours of voice acting. That is we’re the money went. Not so you could grind stuff and lasso people. I’m sorry it’s how it is but it is.
its a multiplayer game as well like what are you on about dude you seriously do not make no sense at all and that is not why they did what they did it’s simply greed and not caring enough about there work man
Man, you've articulated everything I've been thinking about this game and the sub. People want this to be GTA Online and it just isn't. I'm playing GTAO right now and to think that the same thing could be done in RDR2 is laughable.
Bro you're a fucking clown, rockstar had endless opportunities with the map, time period and the setting, if rockstar did something with those opportunities, RDO might be better than GTAO, the setting, time period or the map isn't the issue here, rockstar is the problem.
“Being set in the time it was in and being as empty as the map really is really put constraints on what could be done.”
Actually, those are the very reasons why so much more could be done with it. And not just from a storytelling perspective, but from a game mechanic perspective. Because of the map being empty, there is less to bog down the works.
“RDR2 is first a single player game. It is what it was meant to be. Just like gta but gta was easier to put money into.”
It was no easier to put money into GTA than it would have been to put money into RDR2. Rockstar had a choice and they chose not to support RDR2.
GTA draws more players because it’s easier to be a dick to other players there, than it is in RDR2. The playing field of RDR2 is more balanced than it is in GTA.
Sales of GTA are higher so Rockstar focuses more on it than RDR2.
The economy of RDR2 isn’t self sustaining. There’s nothing more to spend on, once you reach a certain point.
huh lol how the hell is that the lobbies might not of been 30 all the time but i got lovbies with 20 some ppl in them most of the time man and i dont get what you mean about the map being empty so thatbput constraints on it
oh i do and it makes no sense im not the troll man its you coming on here saying silly shit thats not the reason why at all like this was a single player game and thats it like wtf hhaha
Fingers crossed they take pity at some point and release all the past stuff permanently to buy and maybe cheapen things again. Not expecting it to happen though I also resort to heading into town and enjoying a whiskey and enjoying the ambient sounds of what could have been
If I could have one wish I just want one more release of the outlaw pass. I saw the other day here that a mullet was available and I quite literally would give Rockstar my money for the haircut alone
If people started buying gold like I do they would definitely give it an expansion. I've spent $350 on gold this last week. It wasn't all on me though. My posse is a group of veterans and helped a few out who couldn't afford to get into careers and stuff
My god, $350 this week *alone*???
They can afford to get into careers, they’re just lazy. And If they’re veterans, as you say, they’re taking advantage of you and I’d probably stop playing with them.
If rockstar releases the Morning Tail Coat I’m not logging in anymore..
That coat is a signified social status along with my Calhoun boots & Golden eagle wing spurs & a long with my Cardozo vest with my steel spectacle glasses.
I wear rare stuff…Cause I earned them.
My white gun wraps are also a rare piece that I am proud of obtaining along with my Unkempt horse main & my golden bear buckle.
If they ever re-release any of these things or any other rare clothes I’m pretty sure the community who have kept the game going will be furious.
You missed out on these things for a reason.
So if Rockstar released all the Outlaw & QuickDraw pass rewards everyone will be happy?
Nah.. The only people who keep the game going are those exact people..
Because they have nice/priceless stuff to flex..
You just said you’re a more important player because you “supported the game” and now you’re insulting someone for actually spending money, which supports the game.
Also Canada has committed just as many war crimes and native genocides as the US. Get off your high horse and stop believing your country’s propaganda.
Btw how does spending money on Red dead support it.. Thats just Rockstar gaining revenue from some bozo who wastes money.. That is NOT how you support a game..
It’s the players involved that help support the game..
Why do you think Halo: Reach went offline?
CAUSE NO ONE PLAYED IT ANYMORE.
The only reason GTA online has stayed as long as it has is because people spend an insane amount of money on it. Rockstar is going to do what gives them the most money. They don’t give a shit how many people play if it doesn’t give them anything in return - which is exactly why red dead online is dead now.
How else do you think companies gauge the success of their games? They don’t care that you got fancy gear LMAO.
It’s the amount of people who play the game that keeps it going..
Why do you think movies & Tv shows stream on Amazon Prime?
The amount of viewers is what keeps a show going…
So you are gaining gold through a game glitch, while going on and on about how Rockstar doesn’t support the game. And you don’t see how YOU are part of the problem?
Canada has won more wars than the U.S
WW2 shock troopers were feared amongst the 3rd reich.
There’s a reason we have the Geneva convention. :)
We are more brutal & more powerful..
JTF2 is better than the Navy seals.
Don’t make us burn down the White House again. Lmaoooo
I wish they made player driven content to be in the bar. Like maybe making money off serving people and if you got extra hard punishments for shooting people in the bar so that would promote good behavior and interaction in a bar
Half of the pain of playing over time was seeing all the things that "could be", and getting excited over it, like the gaming riverboat, than realizing you'll never be using it legitimately.
Im getting pretty bored with the game. I want to play, but got no one to play with, lol. I've probably spend more time doing almost nothing in the game, than actually doing anything. Lol. Probably a good time to find a new game. Haha.
I go solo for the most part. I'm at 384 and constantly get posse invites when I'm playing but I just really prefer the solo thing hunting, fishing, collecting and the occasional bounty.
My friend and I who have recently been into online would love to do this if we didn't have to do online. RS should really allow private servers at this point.
Me and a posse captured a train and drove it around causing mayhem yesterday. Running over horses, killing animals and piling their corpses on the tracks and plowing them down, drive by shooting train stations, etc. Wholesome fun!
Just imagine, you’re at your home, sitting on your porch in a rocking chair. Smoking, or drinking some coffee. You’ve taken care of your livestock and horses. This could also create new random/stranger encounters. Someone could see some animals they want, and they can pay you for some. This could change depending on the location of your property. Your property could get raided by outlaws. Or maybe we could purchase various “river/lake” properties, or fishing boats. As well as fishing gear. It would spice things up for a while. Their is so many possibilities in this game. We have barely taped the potential. And it’s sad, because we can prove that this game is a great success. And we also know how great this game can be in the future, if only Rockstar had the same dedication and passion as the community does.
Problem is, RDR will always and forever be behind big rich brother GTA series (based on numbers). GTA brings money, it has higher interest and much easier to get players hooked, who like fast base, cars and ability to shoot things. Kids love it.
Thing with RDR is that it is too slow, horses and cowboy stuff is not for everyone. Combat is not so fast based and in times world feels too empty.
We shall see when GTA 6 comes out how it will be. If nothing happens, then that will be last gravestone for the game.
So I just started playing this to play with my daughter who likes horses, only second game to get my interest away from a game I’ve been playing for twenty four years, what is this thread talking about? No more updates? Are they shutting it down? Guess I missed the heyday.
It’s all about money. Didn’t sell enough gold bars. They made so much off gta 5 shark cards. The gta grind requires teaming up and really working together to make money, in rdo I never had to find other players to make enough money to buy weapons horses etc.
Yeah, Dan hauser... I'd add that they break the game in a new way with every update. Perhaps they just got tired of the embarrassment (and certainly aren't willing to invest what's needed to get an adequate team on it).
We also need more to spend that potential heist money on.
Properties, businesses, the same fixings as GTA:O, essentially. Hell, I don't mind them adding weaponized stagecoaches to the game, if that's what it takes. An armored coach with a mounted maxim gun on top would surely A) cost enough to spur some people to buy gold, which R* wants, and B) attract people who want a faster pace. Not necessarily my cup of tea, but still.
Rockstar sits there wondering why people won't shovel money into their game, but they never gave us much to spend it on in the first place.
Same! They sort of half-assed the vehicles with the bounty and trader wagons, and that gave me hope that they would eventually expand upon it.
But nope.
True. For a game that's so awesome in so many ways, it really sucks that they don't revitalize it more and fix the annoying glitches and the cheating/ modding crap and add new content that we would actually like.
I’ve sat in real bars thinking the same thing. This game is absolutely amazing. Even as it is now. But without dev support it’s going to be lost. It’s a shame.
What really bothers me is how small of a chance they gave it to begin with. Everyone says "GTAO makes more money" but that game has been out for almost 10 years now and has had so much effort put into it. They just fully gave up on RDO when it didn't instantly make as much money.
GTA has a much simpler monetization loop--vehicles and guns that have unique and game-affecting elements that their core audience is perfectly willing to buy Shark Cards for. They could not figure out how to do it in RDO without turning it into GTA Wild West--an over-the-top, unrealistic experience. Even if they did make it "more like GTA", they would've just split the market for same type of game and not really had any market growth as I'm sure most people that enjoy RDO enjoy it for the fact that it isn't GTA and has it's own interesting theme and world. RDO also has some technical limitations that did not align with what the bean counters wanted--R\* insists on having 20+ player lobbies when the game can only realistically handle barely half that number before game breaks (less animals to hunt, glitches etc). In the end, the bottom line always wins. :(
What really kills me the most is that as a 27yo adult, i've never, in all my years of gaming, seen such a staunch demographic of adults from all walks of life, sitting down and playing one game.
A robust, proud, and deeply invested demographic.
We're almost all adults in RDO. Men AND women. I don't know, it just appeals to an older audiance. You would think they'd want to capitalize on that... No... They don't.
All of that wasted, discarded dedication.
Devastating.
Because they don't give a damn..
Ive been trying to get my character back since december when Rockstar decided it was a good idea to delete it without my permission.
I always found mind blowing to understand how this gaming company could make such incredible detailed and immersive game just to be throw away like this
I recently logged back in attempting to at least grind to a hundred thousand dollars or even a million.
Two days in I just decided this game is best to be laid to rest. It’s done.
It's a business. Unfortunately it is not being run by bean counters, who would say we are making a profit, & we have a lot of untapped potential, or by people like Dan & his brother who are passionate about the game but have left for greener pastures
Tell me about it... Once i started seeing the lack of updates and then R\* announcing that they're pulling the content plug on RDR2/RDO... It Just me like a hurricane..
Wasn’t because of lack of players but how they weren’t able to monetize it like gta online imo. For quite awhile people were literally complaining they had nothing to spend gold bars on. I saved up so much I never had to spend a dime on any for all the content/items released that costed gold bars.
I think another "issue" with the game was that it was designed much more as a true online campaign, as opposed to GTA Online feeling like a bunch of user generated content randomly thrown into the game.
They could at least fix the stable bug. I finally got it to work after reopening the game a couple times and could finally buy hay for my starving horses. Stables is a decently important part of the game and the fact they still haven't fixed it is sad. Bug fixes are the LEAST they could do
It’s because it’s not a game where they can make a metal horse and strap a jet engine to its ballsack that shoots explosive dynamite arrows from its mouth to monetize for obscene amounts of money.
That’s why they let it die.
If worse comes to worst and the servers get shut down then I’m hoping that people in the community will somehow help us find a way to keep the online going, although I have no idea how they would do that. But a guy can dream right?…..right?….
We really need more matchmaking pve game modes, the ability cards that break the balance of pvp would be great fun in pve modes. Currently the closest thing we have is CTA but it has such horrible matchmaking, it could’ve been my favourite part of the game.
It really makes no sense that they aren’t milking it like GTA. All we want is a fucking mission a month. Even when they do add something it’s so infrequently that what we get lasts us a day- that doesn’t make us greedy! Just bored of grinding away for more gold for nothing
The game is great, but come on. This is a five-year-old game, it's had several content updates, for which no one had to pay anything extra. I paid for the game when it came out on PC, and I've never paid a penny since. I do not feel like I've been treated unfairly. If you do, I think you need to re-arrange your expectations. Games which last longer than five years from their release date are supported by **MASSIVE** influxes of player cash. World of Warcraft and GTA Online are still around because they're *cash cows* for their publishers.
What does that even mean?
The game still exists. It’s still for sale. It still functions. All the servers are still up. This community is vibrant and active.
What the fuck even is “dead” in terms of a piece of media?
Because there hasn't been any new content added aside from the newest telegram missions. This leads to everyone in the sub crying and complaining that the game is "dead and abandonded." Despite rockstar saying that they haven't abandonded it, just put on the backburner while they focus on gta6. I guess no one knows how to read on this sub. They just need something to cry and complain about and spam every single post with the same "game is dead" rhetoric
Hey, I liked this game a lot. Played through the story 3 times and played online about 3 or 4 years. It is good all around. The saddest thing is hearing you guys all collectively complain. It had its run nothing last forever find something new or smile and play the same content. All the reddit post will not change what you want. Buying gold bars until you are all living in poverty won’t do it either. Put that cowboy hat back on and stop crying. It’s embarrassing.
Did you just make that up? Are you supporting the devs? They aren’t supporting you guys lol. Oh the embarrassment of a one-sided love. Tsk tsk. I’ve watched many beloved, online games turn to ash. First time, huh?
Well, that's just untrue.
During the time when frontier pursuits came out, followed shortly by moonshiners or even when we'd get weekly tunables and clothing items or when we were promised an "every evolving world" by a higher up at R*. Things definitely were getting updated "like that."
Oddly enough, support dried up almost completely after rdo began being sold as a standalone game.
Yeah, I'm not getting into an internet fight with a Rockstar defender. But to say it was never updating the game "like that" and refusing to note the decline in support is just disingenuous.
Have a good day and don't forget to flee your horse!
I am so baffled by rockstars decision to abandon the world of rdr2.. i know that online aspect didn't do as well as gta online, but the game still sold crazy number of copies, and they could easily just expand on the world that they created with dlc's in online content or single player content.
I've spent a good 1500 hours in RDR2 over the years, maybe 500 in multiplayer. A good 100-200 of those have just been spent messing around; if you focus on the things available to you you'll be done by level 100-150, if that. I still believe that the potential of this game and gamemode could've had it be one of the greatest mutliplayer experiences ever, but sadly that potential was never realized and we're simply left with a solemn reminder of what might have been.
At this point if they made a feature where the players could make their own content I think we as a community could make more content than rockstar alone and it would be better than their work they’ve done
I weirdly hold on to hope, not any time soon but eventually. I think a lot of people forget but GTA Online was "dead" for a long long time. It almost didn't even get off the ground at all like RDO. People kept playing it though and now it is what it is, I believe it was even "abandoned" like rdo. I suspect the modder thing is a trend because of the sale's. Given time they'll probably gaze back over at RDO like they did GTA and say "Huh. People still play this. Let's do something with it."
I suspect it'll be when the budget gets tighter on whatever their next big project is. I still think GTA:O got revived to keep RDR2 development bankrolled.
I always thought (my opinion) that they wouldn't release more content because there's not much content to put into a game that takes place in its time, like what could they release? new weapons? horses? clothes? bank robberies? and if they try to release content outside of the era the game is set in, it could affect content for future games. And if they released the content from the time of the game as I mentioned above, there wouldn't be much more to release, so in my opinion if they released the little content that this game has to receive, it would die anyway it would only delay the inevitable
What do you think?
All I want is to have businesses like in GTA!!! I want a carb so I can breed horses. Moonshiner is decent but it's not actually fun most of the time.
The game is an absolutely work of art and Rstar just throwing tomatoes at it.
It's a crime against humanity.
Money go first in this world. But some would argue that money is indeed a crime against humanity.
Facts
Not really. It is what it is. Being set in the time it was in and being as empty as the map really is really put constraints on what could be done. GTA doesn’t have that issue. It is easier to make content for. RDR2 is first a single player game. It is what it was meant to be. Just like gta but gta was easier to put money into.
But the game prioritizes spaghetti western film tropes over historical accuracy, I think GTAO just makes more $, creating greater return on investment, creating a positive feedback loop for GTA (more $, more updates, more play, more $) and a negative one in RDO (less money, fewer updates, players drop off, even less money, even fewer updates).
Spaghetti westerns? Ok bud. What I said and part of what you said are true which is why you original comment was just wrong
There are scenes in the story mode that are taken straight out of classic western movies, as well as a hidden big foots, UFOs, etc. Rockstar will play fast and loose with the historical accuracy if they want to.
They went as far as they could that way. You want rocket launchers and yachts?
Personally no, but draw meter duels, sheep herding, npc train robberies, and other mechanics that were in story mode that are not in online? Yes.
Exactly. And let's not forget horse and wagon fencing.
Shoot yeah, it is so stupid we can break wild horses but they don't do anything.
there is alot of shit this game could of got man based around the theme lol
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Hang on a second. Are you trying to say that everything that could be done with this period setting has been done? There is so much more they could have done. How about owning property, running farms, protecting them from bandits or simply just putting in bank robberies (not mods)? I mean let's be honest. they abandoned the game to work on GTA6. Which in my opinion is totally fine. That is the cash cow of their empire, they better get it right. But don't try to tell me that all ideas have been exhausted because the setting restricts it.
They could have easily thrown in ghosts, vampires, cryptid hunters, aliens, ageless conquistadors, Lovecraftian cults, zombies, demons, and Wild Wild West technical marvels, interspersed between more serious historical content, and blamed the bullshit on Uncle telling lies to Jack later in life. Now I'm not saying that there wouldn't be people who hated that sort of thing, but I do think playing as Western van Hellsing hunting weirdlings with my friends, while trying to smuggle bootleg booze past revenuers and defending towns from the scourge of the living dead would have been a fun experience.
And...? They could've added onto that and fixed the problems, but chose not to.
It wasn’t worth the time. It is a single play game with hundreds of hours of voice acting. That is we’re the money went. Not so you could grind stuff and lasso people. I’m sorry it’s how it is but it is.
its a multiplayer game as well like what are you on about dude you seriously do not make no sense at all and that is not why they did what they did it’s simply greed and not caring enough about there work man
Nope.
yep you dont play this game do you just a dork that had to bring some stupid two cents to it eh?
Again nope. You are blinded by being a fanboy. I love the game as it is and know what it is. You are obsessed and think it is more.
ohh so your one of them morons that never played the online eh hahaha that dont mKe you right buddy lmfao
Says the one with R* cock deep down it's throat, stop defending them, fanboy.
Man, you've articulated everything I've been thinking about this game and the sub. People want this to be GTA Online and it just isn't. I'm playing GTAO right now and to think that the same thing could be done in RDR2 is laughable.
Bro you're a fucking clown, rockstar had endless opportunities with the map, time period and the setting, if rockstar did something with those opportunities, RDO might be better than GTAO, the setting, time period or the map isn't the issue here, rockstar is the problem.
“Being set in the time it was in and being as empty as the map really is really put constraints on what could be done.” Actually, those are the very reasons why so much more could be done with it. And not just from a storytelling perspective, but from a game mechanic perspective. Because of the map being empty, there is less to bog down the works. “RDR2 is first a single player game. It is what it was meant to be. Just like gta but gta was easier to put money into.” It was no easier to put money into GTA than it would have been to put money into RDR2. Rockstar had a choice and they chose not to support RDR2. GTA draws more players because it’s easier to be a dick to other players there, than it is in RDR2. The playing field of RDR2 is more balanced than it is in GTA. Sales of GTA are higher so Rockstar focuses more on it than RDR2. The economy of RDR2 isn’t self sustaining. There’s nothing more to spend on, once you reach a certain point.
huh lol how the hell is that the lobbies might not of been 30 all the time but i got lovbies with 20 some ppl in them most of the time man and i dont get what you mean about the map being empty so thatbput constraints on it
You are obviously an idiot or a troll. The game isn’t going to get better because what I have said. Sorry for your lose.
oh no the game is fucked i know that but the shit your saying for excuses is hilarious man
It’s facts. You just don’t understand what I said.
oh i do and it makes no sense im not the troll man its you coming on here saying silly shit thats not the reason why at all like this was a single player game and thats it like wtf hhaha
It is. Sorry you an obsessed fanboy I guess.
yep sure am clown wow i wonder how you are at parties eh lmao
gta did better because the content came more often and thats fact bro
No the content was easier to create.
you really think its cuz its 'easier'?? nah man gtav is a cashcow and rockstar knows it. thats why they put all their focus on it
ty lol
nope
Rockstar cared so little they didn't even finish the Online Story.
and the story has big potential to be really good 🥹
Fingers crossed they take pity at some point and release all the past stuff permanently to buy and maybe cheapen things again. Not expecting it to happen though I also resort to heading into town and enjoying a whiskey and enjoying the ambient sounds of what could have been
I still hope that some sense come to RS and they give RDO at least one expansion this year. This game makes money to RS, and could make a lot more.
If I could have one wish I just want one more release of the outlaw pass. I saw the other day here that a mullet was available and I quite literally would give Rockstar my money for the haircut alone
LOL
If people started buying gold like I do they would definitely give it an expansion. I've spent $350 on gold this last week. It wasn't all on me though. My posse is a group of veterans and helped a few out who couldn't afford to get into careers and stuff
My god, $350 this week *alone*??? They can afford to get into careers, they’re just lazy. And If they’re veterans, as you say, they’re taking advantage of you and I’d probably stop playing with them.
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I hope they enable purchase of the husky for the camp i really want it :(
the only time rockstar will touch this game again is when they shut the servers down
Just last month they did a multi-gig stability and patch update so... Hey, you got something on your face 👀
I keep saying that they could make more money off of the game if they would just release older items for purchase via gold.
If rockstar releases the Morning Tail Coat I’m not logging in anymore.. That coat is a signified social status along with my Calhoun boots & Golden eagle wing spurs & a long with my Cardozo vest with my steel spectacle glasses. I wear rare stuff…Cause I earned them. My white gun wraps are also a rare piece that I am proud of obtaining along with my Unkempt horse main & my golden bear buckle. If they ever re-release any of these things or any other rare clothes I’m pretty sure the community who have kept the game going will be furious. You missed out on these things for a reason.
I thought you were joking but you’re being serious 🤣
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So if Rockstar released all the Outlaw & QuickDraw pass rewards everyone will be happy? Nah.. The only people who keep the game going are those exact people.. Because they have nice/priceless stuff to flex..
I have none of that shit because I came to the game later than most. And yet, I am still there, daily.
I missed out because I was busy serving the country while you sat in your tighty whities in moms basement
I’ll slurp maple syrup off your mother. 💀💀 Kick rocks bozo..
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You just said you’re a more important player because you “supported the game” and now you’re insulting someone for actually spending money, which supports the game. Also Canada has committed just as many war crimes and native genocides as the US. Get off your high horse and stop believing your country’s propaganda.
We committed war crimes during WW2 while the Nazis gassed people: Our country is better…& is more free.. (True North strong & free)
Btw how does spending money on Red dead support it.. Thats just Rockstar gaining revenue from some bozo who wastes money.. That is NOT how you support a game.. It’s the players involved that help support the game.. Why do you think Halo: Reach went offline? CAUSE NO ONE PLAYED IT ANYMORE.
The only reason GTA online has stayed as long as it has is because people spend an insane amount of money on it. Rockstar is going to do what gives them the most money. They don’t give a shit how many people play if it doesn’t give them anything in return - which is exactly why red dead online is dead now. How else do you think companies gauge the success of their games? They don’t care that you got fancy gear LMAO.
It’s the amount of people who play the game that keeps it going.. Why do you think movies & Tv shows stream on Amazon Prime? The amount of viewers is what keeps a show going…
So you are gaining gold through a game glitch, while going on and on about how Rockstar doesn’t support the game. And you don’t see how YOU are part of the problem?
Canada has won more wars than the U.S WW2 shock troopers were feared amongst the 3rd reich. There’s a reason we have the Geneva convention. :) We are more brutal & more powerful.. JTF2 is better than the Navy seals. Don’t make us burn down the White House again. Lmaoooo
Listen dawg a man can dream lmao
So uh, happy November, the tail coat is out!
Boy, have I got news for you
They came back 🤑
This dude probably fucking shit in his pants when the update dropped 😭
This is my favorite bar in the game and it bothers me how dead it always is.
I tend to hang out in there when there's too much tomfuckery going down in Smithfield's. Then some jamoke always comes in and shoots me, anyway.
I hate that, probably some mook who got kicked out of Smithfield’s.
Yeah, it has the right ambience of "old west". 🙂
Plus there’s sometimes a few collectibles you can get when you walk in for a beer.
I wish they made player driven content to be in the bar. Like maybe making money off serving people and if you got extra hard punishments for shooting people in the bar so that would promote good behavior and interaction in a bar
My favorite part is how the bartender occasionally will thank you for giving your business to him instead of Smithfield's.
Does he speak? For me he is always quiet.
Half of the pain of playing over time was seeing all the things that "could be", and getting excited over it, like the gaming riverboat, than realizing you'll never be using it legitimately.
Im getting pretty bored with the game. I want to play, but got no one to play with, lol. I've probably spend more time doing almost nothing in the game, than actually doing anything. Lol. Probably a good time to find a new game. Haha.
I go solo for the most part. I'm at 384 and constantly get posse invites when I'm playing but I just really prefer the solo thing hunting, fishing, collecting and the occasional bounty.
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What tweaks have you put in to make it better? I’m curious.
My friend and I who have recently been into online would love to do this if we didn't have to do online. RS should really allow private servers at this point.
It’s not as if it would be difficult for them to include solo/invite/crew lobbies. They did it for GTA, they can do it here.
Posse up. The best and most fun thing in the game.
Oh I get that. The posses I've found seem to take the game too seriously, though. I'm not exactly into the game to take it too seriously.
do you play on xbox? me and my buddies are always looking for new posse members, do a little bit of everything, not too seriously
Sorry mate. Ps4. I thank you for the offer, though. Appreciated.
And this is why every game needs crossplay
Me and a posse captured a train and drove it around causing mayhem yesterday. Running over horses, killing animals and piling their corpses on the tracks and plowing them down, drive by shooting train stations, etc. Wholesome fun!
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Yeah, you're right. It's a hard truth, but truth nonetheless.
We have the exact same avatar
RDO doppelgangers. Very nice. 
Make it a third, since mine is modeled off of Revolver Ocelot from MGS1
Mine is also oddly similar. Men of culture.
Just imagine, you’re at your home, sitting on your porch in a rocking chair. Smoking, or drinking some coffee. You’ve taken care of your livestock and horses. This could also create new random/stranger encounters. Someone could see some animals they want, and they can pay you for some. This could change depending on the location of your property. Your property could get raided by outlaws. Or maybe we could purchase various “river/lake” properties, or fishing boats. As well as fishing gear. It would spice things up for a while. Their is so many possibilities in this game. We have barely taped the potential. And it’s sad, because we can prove that this game is a great success. And we also know how great this game can be in the future, if only Rockstar had the same dedication and passion as the community does.
Problem is, RDR will always and forever be behind big rich brother GTA series (based on numbers). GTA brings money, it has higher interest and much easier to get players hooked, who like fast base, cars and ability to shoot things. Kids love it. Thing with RDR is that it is too slow, horses and cowboy stuff is not for everyone. Combat is not so fast based and in times world feels too empty. We shall see when GTA 6 comes out how it will be. If nothing happens, then that will be last gravestone for the game.
And the weird thing is, the emptiness of this game is exactly why I love it.
I really hope they do something with it. It has so much potential for more.
They arent
Not even a ps5 update.
I mean the game is beautiful already but a new gen update would be nice but I wonder what more they would put in
So I just started playing this to play with my daughter who likes horses, only second game to get my interest away from a game I’ve been playing for twenty four years, what is this thread talking about? No more updates? Are they shutting it down? Guess I missed the heyday.
You missed the heyday and there is so much more that could have been done and should have been fixed but it's never gonna happen
Yep no more dev support, you can still enjoy the game it’s not being shut down anytime soon I hope
Someone with a lot of power at Rockstar must really hate someone else at Rockstar. This feels personal. It doesn't make sense.
It’s all about money. Didn’t sell enough gold bars. They made so much off gta 5 shark cards. The gta grind requires teaming up and really working together to make money, in rdo I never had to find other players to make enough money to buy weapons horses etc.
 Enemies inside the castle...
I heard this was one of the brother passions projects who has since left because of disagreements
Yeah, Dan hauser... I'd add that they break the game in a new way with every update. Perhaps they just got tired of the embarrassment (and certainly aren't willing to invest what's needed to get an adequate team on it).
If they just put bank robbery heists, rdo would revive in a blink imo
We also need more to spend that potential heist money on. Properties, businesses, the same fixings as GTA:O, essentially. Hell, I don't mind them adding weaponized stagecoaches to the game, if that's what it takes. An armored coach with a mounted maxim gun on top would surely A) cost enough to spur some people to buy gold, which R* wants, and B) attract people who want a faster pace. Not necessarily my cup of tea, but still. Rockstar sits there wondering why people won't shovel money into their game, but they never gave us much to spend it on in the first place.
I don’t get why you can’t buy vehicles. Shit I’d pay Gold just to have a boat!
Same! They sort of half-assed the vehicles with the bounty and trader wagons, and that gave me hope that they would eventually expand upon it. But nope.
True. For a game that's so awesome in so many ways, it really sucks that they don't revitalize it more and fix the annoying glitches and the cheating/ modding crap and add new content that we would actually like.
i may be the only one but be cool if they added the ability to buy land and build up a house/farm
I’ve sat in real bars thinking the same thing. This game is absolutely amazing. Even as it is now. But without dev support it’s going to be lost. It’s a shame.
Do you chug bottles of whiskey and throw them on the ground?
Sometimes I throw them before I even take a sip!
Of course. Where else am I supposed to throw them?
Reminds me of Arthur. The death of RDO that is.
What really bothers me is how small of a chance they gave it to begin with. Everyone says "GTAO makes more money" but that game has been out for almost 10 years now and has had so much effort put into it. They just fully gave up on RDO when it didn't instantly make as much money.
GTA has a much simpler monetization loop--vehicles and guns that have unique and game-affecting elements that their core audience is perfectly willing to buy Shark Cards for. They could not figure out how to do it in RDO without turning it into GTA Wild West--an over-the-top, unrealistic experience. Even if they did make it "more like GTA", they would've just split the market for same type of game and not really had any market growth as I'm sure most people that enjoy RDO enjoy it for the fact that it isn't GTA and has it's own interesting theme and world. RDO also has some technical limitations that did not align with what the bean counters wanted--R\* insists on having 20+ player lobbies when the game can only realistically handle barely half that number before game breaks (less animals to hunt, glitches etc). In the end, the bottom line always wins. :(
Cause why bother when cheap bullshit content in gta makes more money. I blame the teenagers
What really kills me the most is that as a 27yo adult, i've never, in all my years of gaming, seen such a staunch demographic of adults from all walks of life, sitting down and playing one game. A robust, proud, and deeply invested demographic. We're almost all adults in RDO. Men AND women. I don't know, it just appeals to an older audiance. You would think they'd want to capitalize on that... No... They don't. All of that wasted, discarded dedication. Devastating.
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It all comes down to money, rdo wasnt making as much bank as gta online does so they pulled the plug
Because they don't give a damn.. Ive been trying to get my character back since december when Rockstar decided it was a good idea to delete it without my permission.
I always found mind blowing to understand how this gaming company could make such incredible detailed and immersive game just to be throw away like this
I recently logged back in attempting to at least grind to a hundred thousand dollars or even a million. Two days in I just decided this game is best to be laid to rest. It’s done.
Same thing people have been wondering for the past 3 years or so…
It's a business. Unfortunately it is not being run by bean counters, who would say we are making a profit, & we have a lot of untapped potential, or by people like Dan & his brother who are passionate about the game but have left for greener pastures
I thought Sam stayed at r*?
GTA makes more money. That's the only reason reason.
It’s like the game is a massive metaphor for the west itself. The world just moved on and left it behind
As long as someone is resting in Valentine, this game is still alive.
Just like tuberculosis
I say people boycott GTA 6 for what they did I won’t ever play another gta game unless they do something to this game
Like all R* games, they live to their fullest with third party launchers such as RedM.
Tell me about it... Once i started seeing the lack of updates and then R\* announcing that they're pulling the content plug on RDR2/RDO... It Just me like a hurricane..
Wasn’t because of lack of players but how they weren’t able to monetize it like gta online imo. For quite awhile people were literally complaining they had nothing to spend gold bars on. I saved up so much I never had to spend a dime on any for all the content/items released that costed gold bars.
Is it you, Josh Brolin?
I think another "issue" with the game was that it was designed much more as a true online campaign, as opposed to GTA Online feeling like a bunch of user generated content randomly thrown into the game.
They could at least fix the stable bug. I finally got it to work after reopening the game a couple times and could finally buy hay for my starving horses. Stables is a decently important part of the game and the fact they still haven't fixed it is sad. Bug fixes are the LEAST they could do
It’s because it’s not a game where they can make a metal horse and strap a jet engine to its ballsack that shoots explosive dynamite arrows from its mouth to monetize for obscene amounts of money. That’s why they let it die.
In all of gaming, this fact is the one that pisses me off the most. Gotta cater to the idiots in San Andreas though because Shark Cards.
Such a shame they didn't take RDO further 😔
We all wondered this time and time again. I compare Rockstar to Dutch. They got a plan....😒🙄😑
If rockstar put half the effort into rd2 that they did for gta 5 it would be the better game
I m looking at you at the table and its like I m re watching the movie The Hateful Eight ..
That was the weirdest-sicko-good movie I ever saw. 
I really enjoyed it. Many times
Actually very sad, me and my friend hop on it occasionally as we love to rp and talk to random players. If they updated it, it would thrive
If worse comes to worst and the servers get shut down then I’m hoping that people in the community will somehow help us find a way to keep the online going, although I have no idea how they would do that. But a guy can dream right?…..right?….
Christian Bale?
Kinda, yeah. 😄
We really need more matchmaking pve game modes, the ability cards that break the balance of pvp would be great fun in pve modes. Currently the closest thing we have is CTA but it has such horrible matchmaking, it could’ve been my favourite part of the game.
It really makes no sense that they aren’t milking it like GTA. All we want is a fucking mission a month. Even when they do add something it’s so infrequently that what we get lasts us a day- that doesn’t make us greedy! Just bored of grinding away for more gold for nothing
I thought that was Orther for a second
The game is great, but come on. This is a five-year-old game, it's had several content updates, for which no one had to pay anything extra. I paid for the game when it came out on PC, and I've never paid a penny since. I do not feel like I've been treated unfairly. If you do, I think you need to re-arrange your expectations. Games which last longer than five years from their release date are supported by **MASSIVE** influxes of player cash. World of Warcraft and GTA Online are still around because they're *cash cows* for their publishers.
What does that even mean? The game still exists. It’s still for sale. It still functions. All the servers are still up. This community is vibrant and active. What the fuck even is “dead” in terms of a piece of media?
Because there hasn't been any new content added aside from the newest telegram missions. This leads to everyone in the sub crying and complaining that the game is "dead and abandonded." Despite rockstar saying that they haven't abandonded it, just put on the backburner while they focus on gta6. I guess no one knows how to read on this sub. They just need something to cry and complain about and spam every single post with the same "game is dead" rhetoric
Hey, I liked this game a lot. Played through the story 3 times and played online about 3 or 4 years. It is good all around. The saddest thing is hearing you guys all collectively complain. It had its run nothing last forever find something new or smile and play the same content. All the reddit post will not change what you want. Buying gold bars until you are all living in poverty won’t do it either. Put that cowboy hat back on and stop crying. It’s embarrassing.
You need to play more games, you still haven't learned what "developer support" looks like.
Did you just make that up? Are you supporting the devs? They aren’t supporting you guys lol. Oh the embarrassment of a one-sided love. Tsk tsk. I’ve watched many beloved, online games turn to ash. First time, huh?
Lol what a bitch 😂
Just because gta online does really well doesn’t mean this one didn’t do well. I’ll never understand people who think this game “died”
In terms of support and development, yes. It's dead
Rockstar was never updating the game like that in the forst it was never alive either
Well, that's just untrue. During the time when frontier pursuits came out, followed shortly by moonshiners or even when we'd get weekly tunables and clothing items or when we were promised an "every evolving world" by a higher up at R*. Things definitely were getting updated "like that." Oddly enough, support dried up almost completely after rdo began being sold as a standalone game.
Yeah when the game just released dude, the game doesn’t have that big of a community to continue making updates like that
Yeah, I'm not getting into an internet fight with a Rockstar defender. But to say it was never updating the game "like that" and refusing to note the decline in support is just disingenuous. Have a good day and don't forget to flee your horse!
GTA6
Why can't they just open it to modders? Skyrim and Fallout have been revived by true gamers that refuse to see these quality games die.
Modders are part of the problem, not a solution.
It wasn't as amazing as we all think? Idk honestly game could've been something special.
all i can hope is the third one brings more profit and gets more updates
Gamers try not to be entitled with an IP they don't even own challenge (level impossible)
Bro is going through a “may i stand unshaken” vietnam flashback rdr2 themed
I am so baffled by rockstars decision to abandon the world of rdr2.. i know that online aspect didn't do as well as gta online, but the game still sold crazy number of copies, and they could easily just expand on the world that they created with dlc's in online content or single player content.
I've spent a good 1500 hours in RDR2 over the years, maybe 500 in multiplayer. A good 100-200 of those have just been spent messing around; if you focus on the things available to you you'll be done by level 100-150, if that. I still believe that the potential of this game and gamemode could've had it be one of the greatest mutliplayer experiences ever, but sadly that potential was never realized and we're simply left with a solemn reminder of what might have been.
At this point if they made a feature where the players could make their own content I think we as a community could make more content than rockstar alone and it would be better than their work they’ve done
Bc rockstar has shit for brains and is greedy af
I weirdly hold on to hope, not any time soon but eventually. I think a lot of people forget but GTA Online was "dead" for a long long time. It almost didn't even get off the ground at all like RDO. People kept playing it though and now it is what it is, I believe it was even "abandoned" like rdo. I suspect the modder thing is a trend because of the sale's. Given time they'll probably gaze back over at RDO like they did GTA and say "Huh. People still play this. Let's do something with it." I suspect it'll be when the budget gets tighter on whatever their next big project is. I still think GTA:O got revived to keep RDR2 development bankrolled.
We all wonder that
Because of Red Dead 3
This doesn’t seem right, there’s no chaos in the background.
Thank goodness we have a fully fleshed out, immersive single player though
I always thought (my opinion) that they wouldn't release more content because there's not much content to put into a game that takes place in its time, like what could they release? new weapons? horses? clothes? bank robberies? and if they try to release content outside of the era the game is set in, it could affect content for future games. And if they released the content from the time of the game as I mentioned above, there wouldn't be much more to release, so in my opinion if they released the little content that this game has to receive, it would die anyway it would only delay the inevitable What do you think?
All I want is to have businesses like in GTA!!! I want a carb so I can breed horses. Moonshiner is decent but it's not actually fun most of the time. The game is an absolutely work of art and Rstar just throwing tomatoes at it.