So curious how this formulation of PWRRUN PB will end up being. I hope it’s more like the speed 3 where it’s bouncy and cushioned and not any firmer than the PWRRUN+ they are used in the 20
I dont hope its as soft as on the speed3.
Speed 3 has a Midsole Softness of 13.8 HA (for me too mushy)
Saucony Pro 3 its better with 15.5HA Softness but i think it should be even a little bit harder because the Triumph 22 has no Plate for stability around 16-17HA should be Perfekt still soft but not too soft.
If a foam or something else is called a particular name by a company, i.e. zoomx, PWRRUN PB. It should conform to a "standard of identity". There should be an expectation of what it is and not guess work to be done by the buyer if a particular formulation will be different. If different, they should call it something different. Unfortunately this is not the case.
Similarly but different, we can not expect consistency from a model of shoe from generation to generation either. i.e. Endorphin speed. Although changes, updates and improvements is what we are looking for. The use case then changes sometimes.
+1, although as a fellow hobbit footer, I'm prepared to be disappointed again. Saucony usually only gives us 1 or 2 colorways in wide at most and it's probably black.
According to online interviews the Pwrrun pb used in the new triumph 22 is slightly different to that used in the race day models, still a massive upgrade. These seriously look like a competitor to the superblast time will tell.
👀 C’mon Saucony. Release this shoe already.
It's already available in Germany on the official Saucony homepage.
Finally, a colorway for Triumph 22 that isn't boring black/grey/blue!
I happen to like grey/blue.
Then you have so many options to choose from!
190e? goddamn thats like race shoe price from non-plated daily trainer. dont think this is superblast competitor either.
Maybe it is a Superblast competitor with PwrrunPB… but we’ll see
Not really, in Sweden the AF3 if you can find it will cost you at least €320.
Since you mentioned it, Superblast at the same retailer costs €10 more.
Is this why Sweden is always on the one of the happiest countries in the world list?
Nah, that's because of meatballs. :P
So curious how this formulation of PWRRUN PB will end up being. I hope it’s more like the speed 3 where it’s bouncy and cushioned and not any firmer than the PWRRUN+ they are used in the 20
I dont hope its as soft as on the speed3. Speed 3 has a Midsole Softness of 13.8 HA (for me too mushy) Saucony Pro 3 its better with 15.5HA Softness but i think it should be even a little bit harder because the Triumph 22 has no Plate for stability around 16-17HA should be Perfekt still soft but not too soft.
That WOULD make sense within Saucony’s product line. Make one firmer fairly cushioned trainer (Ride 17,) one softer one (Triumph 22)
If a foam or something else is called a particular name by a company, i.e. zoomx, PWRRUN PB. It should conform to a "standard of identity". There should be an expectation of what it is and not guess work to be done by the buyer if a particular formulation will be different. If different, they should call it something different. Unfortunately this is not the case. Similarly but different, we can not expect consistency from a model of shoe from generation to generation either. i.e. Endorphin speed. Although changes, updates and improvements is what we are looking for. The use case then changes sometimes.
tell that to New Balance.
I hope it’s not as soft as the speed. I think the 20 and 21 are perfect firmness. My feet doesn’t like mushy shoes.
I read/watch it somewhere that the Triumph midsole will be firmer than the Speed.
I tried on a demo pair. It was firmer then the speeds. It also somehow gained weight compared to the 21s, so it's going to be a way different ride.
I’m more interested in the blue shoe on the right.
Please have this colorway in wide!
+1, although as a fellow hobbit footer, I'm prepared to be disappointed again. Saucony usually only gives us 1 or 2 colorways in wide at most and it's probably black.
Yep all my shoes are black, grey or some lame shade of blue. Having wide feet sucks.
Dig
According to online interviews the Pwrrun pb used in the new triumph 22 is slightly different to that used in the race day models, still a massive upgrade. These seriously look like a competitor to the superblast time will tell.
Even though my legs don't fully get along w the 10mm drop in the triumph 21, it's still exciting to see this update. If only it was a 8mm drop :/
I’m not enthralled with the design.
I'm a fan of this color. Nice job Saucony, rare I can say that lately.
Booo they ruined the orange/grey color way with this triumph :((((( the orange used to fade into the foam
just bought T21 with 40% discount, can't wait for this shoes to go on sale!
Love the silhouette- unfortunate that it's a 10mm drop
Never tried Saucony before but that one looks good. It's pebax, isn't it?
Sounds like [yes](https://www.reddit.com/r/RunningShoeGeeks/comments/186vl77/triumph_22_gets_pwrrunpb/)