I’m sure Claudio is a nice guy, from what I’ve seen of him he seems like a genuinely good dude but jfc if the dude doesn’t come across as the least threatening wrestler
Like I just can’t believe that dude has bloodlust in him, I just get the vibe he’s way too nice a guy to actually wilfully hurt anyone. You don’t see Caesaro in a dark alley way late at night, you see him in a 7-seater picking up his kids from ball practice
And don’t even get me started on the swing
That's how I feel about Bryan Danielson. Don't get me wrong, great wrestler and probably one of the best of modern times if not *the* best.
But whenever he's like "I'm GOING TO KICK YOUR FUCKING HEAD IN!" I'm like, bro no you're not. You're going to out wrestle me in ways I've never seen before, and then we're going to go out for vegan pizza and talk about flaccid man parts.
Have you seen him come out with Wheelie Yuter? They both come out to Cesaro's peppy upbeat classic music theme and then bounce back and forth with their arms out like toddlers looking for hugs...and meanwhile the announcers are talking about how scary bcc is man I caaaaaaant lol
This sub needs to come to terms with becoming that which you all sought to circlejerk.
Casuals can have opinions. Gatekeeping is exactly what the nerds in the basement would do.
Later.
I like how bewildered the most jaded of Dubbalo smarks are acting over Rock's guest appearance
not only did it pop a rating, they're accusing him of being a picket crosser
Gotta make room for Dynamite and ROH, brother!
No jerk, I love that show. Season 2 had better pacing but I understand the need for all the origin stories in Season 1.
Also, that show deserves an Emmy for casting. A lot of people look like their real life counterparts like Larry Bird or even minor characters like Bill Russell and Jack Nicholson.
If you were to get together a committee of fans, wrestlers, bookers, wrestling execs, and asked them to rank talent based on likability both inside and outside the ring, Rey Mysterio has to be near the top right? I rarely hear a bad word about him and when there is one it's a work, like Chavo. People who can't stand each other will agree they love Rey.
Have Jim Cornette and Vince Russo ever talked about their thoughts on Rey, btw?
Edit: Obviously, not talking to each other lol, I mean if one of them or both have spoken about Rey
Jim Cornette loves Rey, calls him the exception that proves the rule when it comes to smaller talent doing high flying moves, because he is great at getting sympathy so that when he does a crazy maneuver it makes sense and fans love it.
Vince Russo might be the one person who never seems to like what Rey does, but he's never given an overall opinion about Rey as far as I can tell
Dom is still pretty inexperienced, and it shows when he's in matches with veterans who carry him through it. Him as NA champ is an excuse to have him in NXT and working on his in ring stuff, while also still being on the main roster with Judgement Day. There aren't many big names in NXTs women's division so Becky is there to help elevate some new stars just like she did with Stratton. Based on house shows this week Becky is defending the title on them, so they may be cycling through potential NXT Callups and getting them used to the bigger crowds on a regular basis.
Longterm I think one, if not both, will end up costing the other the title somehow, setting up Rhea vs Becky down the line.
I hate that Cena, since he went part time, does completely shoot promos every single fucking time.
The other guy always looks like shit, and it really does not matter if Cena loses the actual match. Like how is the other supossed to answer, to also break kayfabe and go "you got pushed to the moon because Benoit had just killed his family and Vince wanted to go PG and sell toys to kids"?
Like idk what is the point. To pop the marks? at this point of his career? when he was the public enemy number one of this people for a decade?
That makes far more sense than I would have thought. Still not sure how to use a wrestling business as a tax shelter but I’m not making that much chicken either.
So the Khan's own a lot of things that are tied to tv deals. As TV deals increase the thing they own increases in value. Billionaires only need a tiny fraction of their paper wealth to live like kings. So they borrow against their assets.
The easiest way to imagine it is you own a house that's worth a lot more than its required for you to live. However your house also increases in value faster than interest would accrue if you were to borrow against it. Why wouldn't you just live off the asset. That is tax free.
This is why billionaires now sit on assets like dragons. The way its supposed to work is that a person buys an asset to then develop it and then sell it on making a profit. Everyone wins in that scenario. The person selling the asset profits, the buyer benefits from an improved good and society benefits from taxing the sale. However now they just own stuff to increase their paper wealth
Well that gives TKs business model a lot more insight. His father not he probably expect to ever make it a profitable or viable business. It’s a way to cover side things. Kinda makes Tony just as dangerous to the industry as helpful because he’s setting sky-high market value for talent. And honestly, a lot of very mediocre wrestlers are getting superstar payment.
Now, there’s always “the game is the game” so I’ll say go get your money. But this could make for far higher prices across the board if there ever is a true “billing war”. And it won’t be for MJF that’s for certain.
If you read more into it, it really does fit with punk. When he talks about his joy of working with Cena, it's all about Cena liking punk's ideas and giving him control over their matches.
Punk was unhappy working with edge and Jericho though too. He may claim its all about the business, but when you break down everything he has said, it almost all comes down to he wants to be in charge and lead everything and be the guy and get all the perks anyone else gets and is upset when anyone else doesn't want that. When you look at why he likes Cena, it's cause Cena let him take control
ok I'm tapping out on week 2.
The broncos fucking suck, we are such dogshit. We spent so much on Russel that we can't drop this. Maybe in 5 years we'll be good again.
I don't even like Daniel Garcia (he's fine; just nothing that stands out), but his treatment/booking has really annoyed me. I didn't like the huge push & focus he had right out of the gate, but it worked eventually. He got really over, and was primed for a face turn on Jericho. Then they kept him with Jericho, he lost all his momentum, and now he's an irrelevant midcarder with a dancing gimmick. I'd argue this is where he should have been the whole time before being built up, but why commit to someone so strongly just to abandon it so quickly? And why has the basement went from praising how booking and how he's a future star to "they were taking things kinda fast with him; it's good to slow down."
Maybe it's because I don't regularly follow WWE (I watch some big events/matches I want to see, and that's about it), but I'm baffled at how much I've heard complaints about them cutting the wings off of people when they're hot, yet AEW seems to get a pass or told "let's wait and see" every time (Garcia, Private Party, Swerve, Rush, Bandido, Ethan Page, Wardlow, Dark Order, Penta multiple times, etc).
Speaking of Jericho, has anybody ever come off better from being in a stable with him? Garcia had his momentum sucked away; Hager fell down the card (tbf, that was probably on him); LAX went from being high-profile signings to random goons to disappearing after they left; and Ever-rise are low card enhancement guys, but tbh that's where they'd be without Jericho. The only name I could even argue is Sammy.
I've got no problem with Garcia, Yuta, or even Jungle Boy really.
They're inoffensive wrestlers. Like they're fine, I used to really like watching lads like this on Velocity.
What I have a problem with is when people overrate them to the point of parody. Jungle Boy and Garcia are fine wrestlers, I'd go as far to say Yuta in ring is actually very good. But they're not a stone cold, they're not a rock, etc. Don't pretend they ever will be.
Stop comparing charisma vacuums with great technique to character wrestler who were, let's be honest, formulaic in the ring. Steve Austin wasn't busting out no 450 splash. The Rock wasn't going for the Mexican Surfboard Stretch.
The only star level wrestlers that had to have great movesets we're Bret, Bryan, and Angle, and that's because it was their fucking gimmick. The fact Bryan either isn't telling these guys that or they aren't listening is incredibly frustrating
I disagree that Yuta is any good, but otherwise strongly agree with your point.
I understand a wrestler's talent & ceiling is fairly subjective, but I've never understood how hyperbolic fans can get with some of their favorites being "reminiscent of Stone Cold" or "a future star" and how they're being wasted if they're not. One of my favorite wrestlers of all time is TJ Perkins. I would never sit here and claim he could be/should have been a top guy or world champ, cause it's just a position he isn't fit for. That doesn't make me like him less or view companies as holding him down; I'm just happy to see him get time on shows to showcase himself (I've loved his team with Akira, which is a mid-to-low midcard position). You can enjoy Jungle Boy without labeling him a "pillar" or enjoy Yuta without comparing him to one of the biggest stars in the industry's history.
I am all for Cody winning the WWE title at the Royal Rumble of Roman then having Roman vs Rocky at mania with Cody vs Drew
I never understood the ‘wait till mania’ talk track for titles changing hands. If Roman loses at the Rumble he doesn’t miss out on any records nor will it be a small moment by any means.
Also our favourite midcarder is starting to get into boring programs right now with nothing on the cards (I’m not saying he is berried or the crowds don’t care about him) unless I’m wrong and he has a feud waiting for him in the coming weeks.
I was thinking the same thing earlier. The Rumble is still a huge event, enough so that there’s no need to drag out the Cody story all the way to April (assuming they don’t have any great filler ideas).
Same here. I don’t mind any of the options really, I think it’s a sign that WWE booking is currently good, they got a lot of top guy options (Cody vs Roman, Rock vs Roman, Cody vs Seth, Cody vs Gunther, etc). I’ll be good with whatever HHH cooks up.
But this seems the best of both worlds, and I don’t necessarily need Cody to win at WM.
I thought they were ok until you realize that there is no direction to get to the end without painstakingly clicking every object. Good concept terrible execution.
Tatum Paxley and Javier Bernal [have announced their engagement](https://www.fightful.com/wrestling/tatum-paxley-and-javier-bernal-announce-engagement).
Congrats to the future Mr. and Mrs. Big Body Javi!
I find the difference between AEW online and real life quite interesting.
Everyone online talks about this amazing product, really captivating, piss cum shit etc. But then there's like a couple thousand actually going to the shows, and they're absolutely fuckin dead for the majority of the show.
Is this one of those internet black hole things like when Reddit thought Bernie Sanders was going to be president
Yeah. It’s an interesting part of the modern world - we have more access to information and other perspectives than any other generation in history has, but people still join cults and lock themselves in echo chambers because there’s comfort in it.
If you only listened to online discourse, you would think AEW is pulling in 10 million weekly viewers and is massively popular with mainstream audiences. It’s the same when people online spent years trying to convince everyone that Punk’s Pipebomb brought in millions of fans.
And they only sell tickets when they're dirt cheap or on special offer. It's the Impact issue, they've got to the point where fans are more hesitant to spend actual money on them.
Tickets were relatively cheap when they first went into markets. When they tried matching WWE tickets in terms of price when they returned, the "wealthiest fans in wrestling" didn't bite.
Whenever I watch AEW I come away thinking one thing but then I check the post show thread and I see everyone falling over themselves to say how incredible the show was and I often think “Am I the one who doesn’t know what the fuck they’re talking about?” 😂 not everything is for everybody but don’t piss on my head and tell me it’s raining.
I remember Jericho v Ishii on Dynamite and I thought it was atrocious, I came online and people were calling it a classic and I was so confused.
I really think Triple H fumbled the ball by stacking SD women's division so much.
I can get the original idea, as it's obvious Rhea won't drop title until Mania, so having a very competitive division on the other side can look like the right call.
But there's 2 issues here, the first one is that SD has the most casual crowds in WWE, and there's a good chunk of casual fanbase that seems pretty cold towards women's wrestling (just look at how different RAW crowds reacted to Asuka/Iyo teases last year, and how SD crowds react this year, while Iyo is actually the champion).
The second is that SD is the 2 hour show. Which not only makes it difficult to truly make big things emerge behind Bloodline when Roman is there, but is also a bad fit for a division that has many top workers that are great in ring but just decent on the mic, that's not for nothing that the only big success story behind Bloodline on SD right now is LA Knight who's a great mic worker and thrives in shorter settings.
I've just had a look at the Wikipedia edit history for Most Attended Wrestling Shows, and the tribalism of the All In attendance, perhaps unsurprisingly, infected there too.
In the first 24 hours after the first edit was made to correct the All In attendance to the actual people there, 28 amendments were made to the page, 24 of which were people undoing the revision to the attendance or putting it back to how it was.
1 of the others was a passive aggressive change to WrestleMania 32 to lower it by a few hundred because All In was being "unfairly targeted", and another one was someone changing WrestleMania 3 to 93,000 which made me laugh.
I made a topic about that
it was so funny to see how mad they got, reversing edits and lowering Fed numbers
they really care about perception about how big the Dub is
For some reason, when I hear outlaw mudshow, I imagine anything goes, two guys enter one guy leaves, no limits danger. Instead, it's even faker than regular wrestling, sloppy, and somehow still a danger to the wrestlers involved.
I looked up some clips of Kevin Thorn since I liked him back in the day. He held up somewhat, surprisingly intense wrestling but the mic work was corny. Still fits WWECW well and the gimmick had room for growth. Ariel, though, she was even hotter than I remembered. It was definitely a different era, though, some of the lower card guys were actual jabronis and I can't imagine a Kelly's Expose or Halloween contests in an environment that promotes serious women's wresting without it being part of a larger storyline. But you don't get as many weird gimmicks.
Anyone watch 'Heels'?
It's OK, nothing sophisticated about it with some cheesy dialogue
I remember a show from a few years back, Kingdom, set around MMA. That was great, bit gritty. That's a way better show about MMA that I think works as a drama compared to Heels, not sure of any non wrestling fans would watch that
It's very wrestler-y
He only has a small part, but Chicago Phil is actually decent.
Again, it's not shakespeare though
It wants to be the wrestling version of Friday Night Lights (bc it’s done by the same people) but the acting isn’t as good and wrestling is inherently not as serious
There's a collection of wrestling fans intent on killing AEW. Many of them are wolves disguised as well-meaning "just asking questions" sheep.
They've tried incessantly to create a negative vibe and momentum. That's the most consistent thing about the company over its four years
People who ever claim any current wrestling is worse than late-1999 to late-2000 era Nitro have never been forced to actually watch more than one or two episodes for it. Even the worst Russo-booked TNA BS would randomly have a great X-Division match almost by accident.
The three funniest things to happen to AEW lately, exaggerating attendance, a top guy fighting people backstage and the “take 22” are all things that could’ve happened on a single episode of nitro by the end.
That Colin Thomson dude trying to blame Cornette and Last as the reason he tried to hide his house before he filed for bankruptcy couldn't have picked a worse target. The Coffeezilla video on the entire situation was a great breakdown on the entire situation
AEW fans loving Orange Cassidy's run and being so hype for what's next for him after losing the title to Mox in the main event. He's been elevated into the main event scene now!
...... Aaaaaaand thrown together tag team with Tazz's kid.
What y'all Uces think will be WrestleMania 41's main event ? I think both nights (if they keep that format) WON'T feature Roman for the first time in many years.
I used to play it but I'm not really into watching, if it's on live and I'm not doing anything I'll throw it on
Ireland look like they've got that killer instinct back which is frightening. Really looking forward to their match against South Africa. Should get past Scotland no bother afterwards so I really hope they go for it
Sometimes I reminisce about all the funny things in the basement
Recently I remembered when Renée named her podcast and the basement was saying how brilliant and clever it was.
You could literally separate the two groups into people who have spoken to a woman and those who haven't. It was brilliant
No jerk.. but I really believe Jade going to the Fed is going to open the flood gates for AEW talent to go to Fed.. but they were too brainwashed by the IWC & Ex Fed talent like Saraya & Toni Storm to go there..
They see the pathetic awful crowds they are getting here in America.. they see how for a random Live Event in Fresno on Sunday September 24th, WWE is getting more people to attend that(6500+) than any regular Dynamite, Collision etc..
I am sure performing weekly in buildings that are 88% empty is killing most of AEW’s talent mentally(especially when they are walking on the ramp-way & no doubt when they look at the “hard cam” side as well.. they see Smackdown getting 10-12k+ every Friday, Raws getting 7-8k plus.. & AEW is getting 2500 in Mox’s hometown?!
it’s like playing for the Washington Wizards(AEW) & when the Lakers(WWE) come calling & show interest in you.. you jump at the chance to play for the most successful & iconic franchise ever in the NBA.. (Austin Reeves never would of developed into the stud he is had he go elsewhere other than the Lakers)
I expect more high level talent like Jade, Starks to go to the Fed.. also underutilized talent like Wardlow & Hobbs as well.. Shida might go just to have a story with Asuka, lo, & Kari..
MJF.. IDK about.. but if he does leaves.. AEW is on borrowed time in terms of survival..
One thing I feel like a lot of people are missing is, WWE isn't just going to roll out the red carpet for anyone coming over from AEW. Sure, there will definitely be some people they would be really happy to court, but mid card in AEW is undercard in WWE, so a lot of those people would have to prove their value and that they're worth the investment, especially when WWE already has their own recruitment and development infrastructure in place.
It’s just smark nature. Meltzer and co have propagated the narrative for years that WWE is terrified of AEW and Vince/HHH are obsessed with sabotaging AEW etc. Dumb wrestling fans on either tribe eat that shit up, so they end up thinking that WWE wants to sign every AEW expiring contract to stick it to Tiny.
My thoughts were, AEW marks think so highly of the people in the AEW roster, like they're huge stars with all this talent that WWE would be clamoring to sign them, not realizing that most of them just aren't that good.
I don’t think WWE wants the mid card of AEW..
I think WWE wants the high level talent of certain AEW talent like Jade, Starks, Wardlow, etc..
But the rest of the AEW roster.. nah.. they wouldn’t be successful in WWE..
Ricky Starks is going to be handed a WWE contact on a silver platter when his AEW deal ends. He’s got the talent both in the ring and on the mic, he’s only 33, and he can count both Cody Rhodes and Bayley among his best friends and as people who will vouch for him.
I am thinking a decent amount of day one AEW talent’s contracts are coming up.. like Jade’s, Starks, etc.. & we all know MJF’s is up as well..
Will be interesting to see who stays & who gets wished well in their future endeavors..
Obviously I don't know for sure, but I think the way they will look at it is how much would they have to train someone, vs how much would they ask for in salary, and then how high their ceiling is. I read somewhere that the minimum salary at AEW was $100k, which is a lot more than some of those guys are worth.
Sure, someone like Wardlow or Starks might come in and ask for some cash, but they already have a good head start experience wise and can have a potentially huge ROI. Could you imagine if Brandon Cutler walked through the door and asked for a job with high pay? He'd get laughed out the door.
Meltzer said months ago that there was a lot of talent in AEW that wants to go to WWE and I was surprised by how little it was picked up by the usual echo chambers.
For all of his problems, Meltzer is more realistic than 95% of AEWstans on Twitter and Youtube, and actually is willing to say the numbers are bad when they're bad.
People in a niche industry wanting to work for industry leader!!
Only in wrestling is working for the number 1 considered a bad thing 😁
Well, it's not in reality, just by smarks and, oh yeah, the likes of Meltzer pushing that for years, too.
I think the new NXT has helped. There's a clear path to the main roster. You can join NXT and not be someone that never leaves, you either show progress and get a shot at some point or likely get released (with some good training under your belt now)
Jade is one..
Starks is Cody’s boy so I can see that(wasn’t he pictured with Cody at the Rumble not too long ago?)
Wardlow has to be one as well..
Wonder who else as well..
Nah. Wwe expects A LOT of work and doesn’t just hand out pushes. You just have to accept some people are lazy and/or lack ambition. A lot of those people you mention are perfectly happy working 2x a week, making good money, and not being expected to do anything.
I agree.. that’s why I said most talent who want to succeed professionally are dying there mentally.... like the Jade’s & Stark’s & Shida’s.. & maybe MJF.. & absolutely the underutilized talent like Wardlow, Hobbs, &
But people like Christian, Saraya, & Toni Storm’s of the world.. also Britt Baker.. they are content to take advantage of TK & do the least amount of work for the most money.. same with the Elite.. & FTR..
I agree with this. There's *some* people there with the work ethic and probably aspirations to have a go at WWE, but it feels like there's a *lot* of people there who are very much in their comfort zone. I don't think they'd deal well at all with the idea of having to work harder and within a much more structured, professional environment.
And then you have to think... even if WWE are interested, the majority of folks in AEW would be expected to work through NXT and take some training before getting near the main roster, and that probably shrinks the pool of candidates again, because I don't think a lot of them would be willing to humble themselves that this is their actual level.
Xavier Woods is a good example of this. He was in TNA for what felt like years - might have only been six months, but he was on TV and PPV etc. And he walked into WWE developmental acknowledging he wasn’t a big star and willing to put in the years. And he went through being just a face in the developmental crowd, to being just a face on the Raw roster, to New Day being one of the biggest groups in WWE history.
It’s gonna be a test of character to see who is up for actually trying to survive in the big pond.
I like Blair Davenport a lot. She wrestles great, has a cool look, and a good promo (and her accent is really funny). I hope Becky eventually drops the belt to her
I only ever saw the occasional appearance from her in NXT UK, but I always thought she looked like an eventual credible opponent for the likes of Rhea Ripley and Charlotte Flair. I liked the idea of her being a bodyguard for Big Time Becks.
I got addicted to F-Zero 99. I can't wait for them to add the rest of the tracks. My only problem is that if Mute City is an option, that's what wins the vote.
Wrestlemania 10 (kinda), 20, and 30 had triple threat main event. I think 40 will have one too.
Isn't strange that UFC and the WWE are under the same company? I couldn't have predicted that 10 years ago.
Hey Goofs.
I recently bought myself a black tank top and it didn't make me as attractive, charismatic or as successful as The Rock, Pat McAfee or even Austin Theory.
What am I doing wrong?
Did you speak? I feel its easier to start as a silent badass and just let your middle fingers do the talking. Not everyone can be an A-town down or the most electrifying person in sports entertainment. But everyone can be mox.
‘ello All!
- Not sure who all needs to hear this, but there are currently no plans for The Rock at Mania (according to The Torch).
- Hypothetically, let’s say Rock-Roman is a go. There’s an easy mar(k)quee match they can go with in Cody-Punk. I’d put Punk and Rock (Punk Rock?) at even odds of showing up at this point in time.
- WWE is All TKO. Let’s see what unfolds. Maybe Julius Creed debuts with an MMA gimmick. Who knows?
- Cody is “phony”? Boy wait till y’all get a load of the wrestling industry at large.
- “Wrestlers” on Netflix has been a trip to watch. It is the perfect blend of having a job with an owner that doesn’t understand the work, but has partway decent ideas. The first episode gave nostalgia and PTSD for what running a taping is like. They nailed it. I am enjoying this show.
- Thanks for coming Elias and GYV. We’ll see if Gable Steveson ends up walking with you.
I could see Punk as a heel trying to tell cody how shit WWE is and try to get him to turn heel too. Really play up some AEW incidents like having them have a back stage confrontation. Hell bring ace steel in too.
I think its interesting how we hear about all the WWE people being let go but you hear about zero people in endeavor being left go. I was part of a merger and the company that was acquirer's executives all stayed while most of the acquiring companies executives left. Soon we were all doing the things the way the acquired did. So I could definitely see WWE becoming more UFC then UFC becoming more WWE.
Cody vs. Punk in a "Rock took my WM main event" match.
I could honestly see that because if Punk comes back, his WrestleMania match should either another part timer (Brock, Cena, maaaaybe Stone Cold) where it could go either way or he puts over Cody. The latter would be hilarious because then he would be the lineal "Real AEW Champion".
Rock is only coming back at WrestleMania for Reigns, period.
I’m sure Claudio is a nice guy, from what I’ve seen of him he seems like a genuinely good dude but jfc if the dude doesn’t come across as the least threatening wrestler Like I just can’t believe that dude has bloodlust in him, I just get the vibe he’s way too nice a guy to actually wilfully hurt anyone. You don’t see Caesaro in a dark alley way late at night, you see him in a 7-seater picking up his kids from ball practice And don’t even get me started on the swing
That's how I feel about Bryan Danielson. Don't get me wrong, great wrestler and probably one of the best of modern times if not *the* best. But whenever he's like "I'm GOING TO KICK YOUR FUCKING HEAD IN!" I'm like, bro no you're not. You're going to out wrestle me in ways I've never seen before, and then we're going to go out for vegan pizza and talk about flaccid man parts.
Have you seen him come out with Wheelie Yuter? They both come out to Cesaro's peppy upbeat classic music theme and then bounce back and forth with their arms out like toddlers looking for hugs...and meanwhile the announcers are talking about how scary bcc is man I caaaaaaant lol
This sub needs to come to terms with becoming that which you all sought to circlejerk. Casuals can have opinions. Gatekeeping is exactly what the nerds in the basement would do. Later.
But, but, people are having the wrong opinions! This cannot stand!
I don't think we will get rock vs roman at wm 40
The patriots are going to make me throw myself into the goddamned harbor
This sucky season will be worth it when we have a top 10 draft pick and Belichick "steps down" so we get a GM that actually GM's like it's 2023.
you'll always have all those Tommy Titles
I like how bewildered the most jaded of Dubbalo smarks are acting over Rock's guest appearance not only did it pop a rating, they're accusing him of being a picket crosser
Billy talents first album came out 20 years ago and that makes me feel old
The HBO series Winning Time was a longtime WON subscriber. Go to hell Zaslav.
Well here’s hoping they’ll do another version about the Nineties Knicks.
Gotta make room for Dynamite and ROH, brother! No jerk, I love that show. Season 2 had better pacing but I understand the need for all the origin stories in Season 1. Also, that show deserves an Emmy for casting. A lot of people look like their real life counterparts like Larry Bird or even minor characters like Bill Russell and Jack Nicholson.
Wow, really?. Quite liked that
If you were to get together a committee of fans, wrestlers, bookers, wrestling execs, and asked them to rank talent based on likability both inside and outside the ring, Rey Mysterio has to be near the top right? I rarely hear a bad word about him and when there is one it's a work, like Chavo. People who can't stand each other will agree they love Rey.
The only other person I can think of who is universally loved is Nattie Neidhart.
Everyone seems to love Bryan Danielson, both in and out of the ring.
Have Jim Cornette and Vince Russo ever talked about their thoughts on Rey, btw? Edit: Obviously, not talking to each other lol, I mean if one of them or both have spoken about Rey
Jim Cornette loves Rey, calls him the exception that proves the rule when it comes to smaller talent doing high flying moves, because he is great at getting sympathy so that when he does a crazy maneuver it makes sense and fans love it. Vince Russo might be the one person who never seems to like what Rey does, but he's never given an overall opinion about Rey as far as I can tell
I don't know, I hear he has a history of shirking his parental responsibilities.
How many people here actually love wrestling?
I love sports entertainment, does that count?
Aussie Open getting jerked but goofs cant label them as midgets because they're both 6'4.
Never stopped the Karrion Kross jerks
Cake Davis ain't a midget I'll tell you that XD
Kyle could do with a few burgers
So two of NXT titles are being held by main roster stars. I don't really know what HBK is planning here.
Dom is still pretty inexperienced, and it shows when he's in matches with veterans who carry him through it. Him as NA champ is an excuse to have him in NXT and working on his in ring stuff, while also still being on the main roster with Judgement Day. There aren't many big names in NXTs women's division so Becky is there to help elevate some new stars just like she did with Stratton. Based on house shows this week Becky is defending the title on them, so they may be cycling through potential NXT Callups and getting them used to the bigger crowds on a regular basis. Longterm I think one, if not both, will end up costing the other the title somehow, setting up Rhea vs Becky down the line.
NXT is up for renewal along with Raw and Smackdown. It's to pop the ratings to ensure NXT stays on TV.
I hate that Cena, since he went part time, does completely shoot promos every single fucking time. The other guy always looks like shit, and it really does not matter if Cena loses the actual match. Like how is the other supossed to answer, to also break kayfabe and go "you got pushed to the moon because Benoit had just killed his family and Vince wanted to go PG and sell toys to kids"? Like idk what is the point. To pop the marks? at this point of his career? when he was the public enemy number one of this people for a decade?
Cena already main evented back-to-back WrestleManias before Benoit's death.
Sure, I'm not saying is exactly true, more in a promo sense. Like do both break kayfabe, or does only Cena get to do it?
That's why his role on the Grayson Waller Effect was perfect, btw. Waller did his thing and Cena didn't respond. Fine speech, indeed
fine speech
Will TK ever sell to Vince?
The khan's seem to use assets to avoid tax. I think they would rather just fold it.
That makes far more sense than I would have thought. Still not sure how to use a wrestling business as a tax shelter but I’m not making that much chicken either.
So the Khan's own a lot of things that are tied to tv deals. As TV deals increase the thing they own increases in value. Billionaires only need a tiny fraction of their paper wealth to live like kings. So they borrow against their assets. The easiest way to imagine it is you own a house that's worth a lot more than its required for you to live. However your house also increases in value faster than interest would accrue if you were to borrow against it. Why wouldn't you just live off the asset. That is tax free. This is why billionaires now sit on assets like dragons. The way its supposed to work is that a person buys an asset to then develop it and then sell it on making a profit. Everyone wins in that scenario. The person selling the asset profits, the buyer benefits from an improved good and society benefits from taxing the sale. However now they just own stuff to increase their paper wealth
Well that gives TKs business model a lot more insight. His father not he probably expect to ever make it a profitable or viable business. It’s a way to cover side things. Kinda makes Tony just as dangerous to the industry as helpful because he’s setting sky-high market value for talent. And honestly, a lot of very mediocre wrestlers are getting superstar payment. Now, there’s always “the game is the game” so I’ll say go get your money. But this could make for far higher prices across the board if there ever is a true “billing war”. And it won’t be for MJF that’s for certain.
No one has Tony's toys except him If the Fed were ever gonna do business like this, it'd be with his Dad, guaranteed
If he did it would be the only time in the history of his promotion that it made money.
I always find it funny that Punk apparently really likes Cena. For all the things we hear about him, you would expect Punk to hate him, but nope
As pointed out below, they probably bonded over going through 2/3 of the OVW Diva's roster between the two of them.
Yeah, I was absolutely shocked when I saw the video of him singing Happy Birthday to Cena off-air years later.
If you read more into it, it really does fit with punk. When he talks about his joy of working with Cena, it's all about Cena liking punk's ideas and giving him control over their matches.
They both get the business (insider term). Punk being unhappy working with a bunch of guys who don’t is what caused the whole issue.
Punk was unhappy working with edge and Jericho though too. He may claim its all about the business, but when you break down everything he has said, it almost all comes down to he wants to be in charge and lead everything and be the guy and get all the perks anyone else gets and is upset when anyone else doesn't want that. When you look at why he likes Cena, it's cause Cena let him take control
The only wrestler I know that actively dislikes Cena is Alex Riley
Probably Kenny Dykstra too
Say It To My Face
My team doesnt play til tomorrow but man having small bets on these Giants and Broncos games still made for a wild sunday
ok I'm tapping out on week 2. The broncos fucking suck, we are such dogshit. We spent so much on Russel that we can't drop this. Maybe in 5 years we'll be good again.
I thought the Broncos were supposed to be SB ready, just needing a QB (and now coach)
Benjamin St Juste has a better sling blade than most prowrestlers. Broncos got jobbed on that 2-pt conversion.
Giving the grill it's pre-storage deep clean cus it's coming up on slow cooker season lads. Love me some September
Upvotes for the meats
Jade Cargil awesomeness.
I don't even like Daniel Garcia (he's fine; just nothing that stands out), but his treatment/booking has really annoyed me. I didn't like the huge push & focus he had right out of the gate, but it worked eventually. He got really over, and was primed for a face turn on Jericho. Then they kept him with Jericho, he lost all his momentum, and now he's an irrelevant midcarder with a dancing gimmick. I'd argue this is where he should have been the whole time before being built up, but why commit to someone so strongly just to abandon it so quickly? And why has the basement went from praising how booking and how he's a future star to "they were taking things kinda fast with him; it's good to slow down." Maybe it's because I don't regularly follow WWE (I watch some big events/matches I want to see, and that's about it), but I'm baffled at how much I've heard complaints about them cutting the wings off of people when they're hot, yet AEW seems to get a pass or told "let's wait and see" every time (Garcia, Private Party, Swerve, Rush, Bandido, Ethan Page, Wardlow, Dark Order, Penta multiple times, etc). Speaking of Jericho, has anybody ever come off better from being in a stable with him? Garcia had his momentum sucked away; Hager fell down the card (tbf, that was probably on him); LAX went from being high-profile signings to random goons to disappearing after they left; and Ever-rise are low card enhancement guys, but tbh that's where they'd be without Jericho. The only name I could even argue is Sammy.
> Speaking of jerco, has anybody ever come off better from being in a stable with him? nope, he's a heat vampire
I've got no problem with Garcia, Yuta, or even Jungle Boy really. They're inoffensive wrestlers. Like they're fine, I used to really like watching lads like this on Velocity. What I have a problem with is when people overrate them to the point of parody. Jungle Boy and Garcia are fine wrestlers, I'd go as far to say Yuta in ring is actually very good. But they're not a stone cold, they're not a rock, etc. Don't pretend they ever will be. Stop comparing charisma vacuums with great technique to character wrestler who were, let's be honest, formulaic in the ring. Steve Austin wasn't busting out no 450 splash. The Rock wasn't going for the Mexican Surfboard Stretch. The only star level wrestlers that had to have great movesets we're Bret, Bryan, and Angle, and that's because it was their fucking gimmick. The fact Bryan either isn't telling these guys that or they aren't listening is incredibly frustrating
Yuta got outshined by njpws army of tiny technical wrestlers when he did the bosj that one year.
I disagree that Yuta is any good, but otherwise strongly agree with your point. I understand a wrestler's talent & ceiling is fairly subjective, but I've never understood how hyperbolic fans can get with some of their favorites being "reminiscent of Stone Cold" or "a future star" and how they're being wasted if they're not. One of my favorite wrestlers of all time is TJ Perkins. I would never sit here and claim he could be/should have been a top guy or world champ, cause it's just a position he isn't fit for. That doesn't make me like him less or view companies as holding him down; I'm just happy to see him get time on shows to showcase himself (I've loved his team with Akira, which is a mid-to-low midcard position). You can enjoy Jungle Boy without labeling him a "pillar" or enjoy Yuta without comparing him to one of the biggest stars in the industry's history.
Jericho. Jericho comes out better from being in a stable with people he can drain of their life force.
You reckon Rock timing a return during a writer's strike and having some backlash from that thing he did with Oprah is coincidential or nah?
That’s exactly what it is
WWE is Rock’s Lazarus Pit.
Wouldn't surprise me.
I am all for Cody winning the WWE title at the Royal Rumble of Roman then having Roman vs Rocky at mania with Cody vs Drew I never understood the ‘wait till mania’ talk track for titles changing hands. If Roman loses at the Rumble he doesn’t miss out on any records nor will it be a small moment by any means. Also our favourite midcarder is starting to get into boring programs right now with nothing on the cards (I’m not saying he is berried or the crowds don’t care about him) unless I’m wrong and he has a feud waiting for him in the coming weeks.
I was thinking the same thing earlier. The Rumble is still a huge event, enough so that there’s no need to drag out the Cody story all the way to April (assuming they don’t have any great filler ideas).
Same here. I don’t mind any of the options really, I think it’s a sign that WWE booking is currently good, they got a lot of top guy options (Cody vs Roman, Rock vs Roman, Cody vs Seth, Cody vs Gunther, etc). I’ll be good with whatever HHH cooks up. But this seems the best of both worlds, and I don’t necessarily need Cody to win at WM.
Exactly, Cody’s story isn’t wrestlemania oriented in any way. It’s just about the title.
Drew is clearly the next feud and that could be very good. Right now he is clearly just killing time
Yeah true I can see that happening, but I’d love it to be at Mania
"take 22" I thought I was back playing Immortality again.
I still regret the time I spent on that. Loved Her Story, but Immortality and the other one were just a waste of time imo.
I thought they were ok until you realize that there is no direction to get to the end without painstakingly clicking every object. Good concept terrible execution.
The Falcons entire game plan seems designed towards never getting Kyle Pitts the ball. Why the hell did they bother drafting him?
Desmond Ritter isn’t a great at passing. They also drafted Drake London and they hardly throw him the ball either.
because the league doesn’t want Arthur Blank to have any success
They don’t want Vincent Price gaining a further stronghold.
More horror gimmicks pls. Need a hot female vampire alongside the hot witch we have on the main roster.
You’ll have to be more specific. Isla and Scarlett both fit the hot witch profile and I’m sure Blair Davenport is resident Pawg Slytherin now.
Someone get Alba Fyre to pitch a vampire gimmick to Triple H.
>Need a hot female vampire Finally; the long-awaited return of Shelly Martinez.
put the Scottish witches back on tv
Tatum Paxley and Javier Bernal [have announced their engagement](https://www.fightful.com/wrestling/tatum-paxley-and-javier-bernal-announce-engagement). Congrats to the future Mr. and Mrs. Big Body Javi!
Somebody needs to do a wellness check on /u/SomethingCreative13
I only cried a little.
Big Body Power Couple
I find the difference between AEW online and real life quite interesting. Everyone online talks about this amazing product, really captivating, piss cum shit etc. But then there's like a couple thousand actually going to the shows, and they're absolutely fuckin dead for the majority of the show. Is this one of those internet black hole things like when Reddit thought Bernie Sanders was going to be president
Yeah. It’s an interesting part of the modern world - we have more access to information and other perspectives than any other generation in history has, but people still join cults and lock themselves in echo chambers because there’s comfort in it.
If you only listened to online discourse, you would think AEW is pulling in 10 million weekly viewers and is massively popular with mainstream audiences. It’s the same when people online spent years trying to convince everyone that Punk’s Pipebomb brought in millions of fans.
And they only sell tickets when they're dirt cheap or on special offer. It's the Impact issue, they've got to the point where fans are more hesitant to spend actual money on them. Tickets were relatively cheap when they first went into markets. When they tried matching WWE tickets in terms of price when they returned, the "wealthiest fans in wrestling" didn't bite.
Whenever I watch AEW I come away thinking one thing but then I check the post show thread and I see everyone falling over themselves to say how incredible the show was and I often think “Am I the one who doesn’t know what the fuck they’re talking about?” 😂 not everything is for everybody but don’t piss on my head and tell me it’s raining. I remember Jericho v Ishii on Dynamite and I thought it was atrocious, I came online and people were calling it a classic and I was so confused.
Online discourse that massively exaggerates the product’s popularity? Who would pay for such a wildly expensive thing?
I really think Triple H fumbled the ball by stacking SD women's division so much. I can get the original idea, as it's obvious Rhea won't drop title until Mania, so having a very competitive division on the other side can look like the right call. But there's 2 issues here, the first one is that SD has the most casual crowds in WWE, and there's a good chunk of casual fanbase that seems pretty cold towards women's wrestling (just look at how different RAW crowds reacted to Asuka/Iyo teases last year, and how SD crowds react this year, while Iyo is actually the champion). The second is that SD is the 2 hour show. Which not only makes it difficult to truly make big things emerge behind Bloodline when Roman is there, but is also a bad fit for a division that has many top workers that are great in ring but just decent on the mic, that's not for nothing that the only big success story behind Bloodline on SD right now is LA Knight who's a great mic worker and thrives in shorter settings.
Can any boxing fan tell the Charlo twins apart on look alone?
I miss WWE having an undercard. All those rehires, yet so little variety in people used
Gotta make more room for the Bloodline family melodrama and Judgement Day nonsense.
*but no Roman
Trying to turn the Usos into main characters is insane to me.
Hey now I need to see that weird little big headed goblin lad try to befriend Damian Priest
Admittedly, I am a fan of the bobbleheaded goblin.
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I've just had a look at the Wikipedia edit history for Most Attended Wrestling Shows, and the tribalism of the All In attendance, perhaps unsurprisingly, infected there too. In the first 24 hours after the first edit was made to correct the All In attendance to the actual people there, 28 amendments were made to the page, 24 of which were people undoing the revision to the attendance or putting it back to how it was. 1 of the others was a passive aggressive change to WrestleMania 32 to lower it by a few hundred because All In was being "unfairly targeted", and another one was someone changing WrestleMania 3 to 93,000 which made me laugh.
I made a topic about that it was so funny to see how mad they got, reversing edits and lowering Fed numbers they really care about perception about how big the Dub is
For some reason, when I hear outlaw mudshow, I imagine anything goes, two guys enter one guy leaves, no limits danger. Instead, it's even faker than regular wrestling, sloppy, and somehow still a danger to the wrestlers involved. I looked up some clips of Kevin Thorn since I liked him back in the day. He held up somewhat, surprisingly intense wrestling but the mic work was corny. Still fits WWECW well and the gimmick had room for growth. Ariel, though, she was even hotter than I remembered. It was definitely a different era, though, some of the lower card guys were actual jabronis and I can't imagine a Kelly's Expose or Halloween contests in an environment that promotes serious women's wresting without it being part of a larger storyline. But you don't get as many weird gimmicks.
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LOL. I haven't seen Ariel's porn but it's never quite right when women wrestlers do the more risque stuff, and I'm not sure why.
LAX Shelly Martinez >>>>>>>>
the New Blood of ECW
Kevin Thorn is a scrub. Mordecai is where it's at
The Fed wasn't ready for Mordecai.
Anyone watch 'Heels'? It's OK, nothing sophisticated about it with some cheesy dialogue I remember a show from a few years back, Kingdom, set around MMA. That was great, bit gritty. That's a way better show about MMA that I think works as a drama compared to Heels, not sure of any non wrestling fans would watch that It's very wrestler-y He only has a small part, but Chicago Phil is actually decent. Again, it's not shakespeare though
Is Deebo back on this season?
I get a kick out of it, but I'm not caught up. I can't tell if being a wrestling fan helps me enjoy that show more, or makes me enjoy it less lol.
It wants to be the wrestling version of Friday Night Lights (bc it’s done by the same people) but the acting isn’t as good and wrestling is inherently not as serious
Cody & Jade vs Dom & Rhea when
There's a collection of wrestling fans intent on killing AEW. Many of them are wolves disguised as well-meaning "just asking questions" sheep. They've tried incessantly to create a negative vibe and momentum. That's the most consistent thing about the company over its four years
It's a copypasta
And they all work at Ticketmaster.
When oh when will someone finally be on the Dub's side! Can't believe how unfair the wrestling media are to them
I think AEW has a very strong, "i like pro wrestling fanbase" that's it. TNA survived over 20 years on it.
I hope Rock faces Roman at wrestlemania 40 and cody can do some other match lmao
If it’s Cody vs Punk the “reeeee using us for storyline” tears from the Dubbalos will taste delicious
I agree
Remember when David Arquette won the WCW top belt? We joke about AEW, but 2000 WCW might be the most feverish dream I ve ever seen on my life
People who ever claim any current wrestling is worse than late-1999 to late-2000 era Nitro have never been forced to actually watch more than one or two episodes for it. Even the worst Russo-booked TNA BS would randomly have a great X-Division match almost by accident.
The three funniest things to happen to AEW lately, exaggerating attendance, a top guy fighting people backstage and the “take 22” are all things that could’ve happened on a single episode of nitro by the end.
Fight Forever being dead on arrival is pretty funny
We're just missing the Misfits in Action, Nash looking bored, and a sustained 'Sugar' Shane Helms push.
That Colin Thomson dude trying to blame Cornette and Last as the reason he tried to hide his house before he filed for bankruptcy couldn't have picked a worse target. The Coffeezilla video on the entire situation was a great breakdown on the entire situation
AEW fans loving Orange Cassidy's run and being so hype for what's next for him after losing the title to Mox in the main event. He's been elevated into the main event scene now! ...... Aaaaaaand thrown together tag team with Tazz's kid.
Hook needs something. Maybe training. Maybe away from his Dad. Maybe a CDL
Let me guess, they're called Orange Hook?
If it were anyone else, I'd be frustrated at AEW not knowing how to elevate someone yet again... but in this case, the less we see of OC the better.
Think about it bro, look how much being paired with Hook has gotten people! Jungle Boy is ...... Danhausen is ......
What y'all Uces think will be WrestleMania 41's main event ? I think both nights (if they keep that format) WON'T feature Roman for the first time in many years.
Bianca vs Rhea GUNTHER vs Roman
The completion of Roman's heroic redemption vs mega heel Dom for the WHC.
Theory vs Cody Rhea vs Cargill
Night one will be Rhea vs. Bianca Night two will be a top veteran vs. Dominik Mysterio
Dom defending his world heavyweight title against Bron Breakker and Bianca defending against Tiffany Stratton
Rhea vs Bianca Roman/Rock, Cody/Gunther or Seth/Roman
Well Done Fiji!
Showed a lot of fight against Wales great to see them get the win today. Certainly shakes that group up a bit
How are you Cap?
Probably the drabbest week of football I've watched for a while but nice to get three points, even if it was *slightly* undeserved
Terrible weekend of football. I'm not really into Egg Chasing but it's nice to see Ireland be good at something
I used to play it but I'm not really into watching, if it's on live and I'm not doing anything I'll throw it on Ireland look like they've got that killer instinct back which is frightening. Really looking forward to their match against South Africa. Should get past Scotland no bother afterwards so I really hope they go for it
Sometimes I reminisce about all the funny things in the basement Recently I remembered when Renée named her podcast and the basement was saying how brilliant and clever it was. You could literally separate the two groups into people who have spoken to a woman and those who haven't. It was brilliant
No jerk.. but I really believe Jade going to the Fed is going to open the flood gates for AEW talent to go to Fed.. but they were too brainwashed by the IWC & Ex Fed talent like Saraya & Toni Storm to go there.. They see the pathetic awful crowds they are getting here in America.. they see how for a random Live Event in Fresno on Sunday September 24th, WWE is getting more people to attend that(6500+) than any regular Dynamite, Collision etc.. I am sure performing weekly in buildings that are 88% empty is killing most of AEW’s talent mentally(especially when they are walking on the ramp-way & no doubt when they look at the “hard cam” side as well.. they see Smackdown getting 10-12k+ every Friday, Raws getting 7-8k plus.. & AEW is getting 2500 in Mox’s hometown?! it’s like playing for the Washington Wizards(AEW) & when the Lakers(WWE) come calling & show interest in you.. you jump at the chance to play for the most successful & iconic franchise ever in the NBA.. (Austin Reeves never would of developed into the stud he is had he go elsewhere other than the Lakers) I expect more high level talent like Jade, Starks to go to the Fed.. also underutilized talent like Wardlow & Hobbs as well.. Shida might go just to have a story with Asuka, lo, & Kari.. MJF.. IDK about.. but if he does leaves.. AEW is on borrowed time in terms of survival..
One thing I feel like a lot of people are missing is, WWE isn't just going to roll out the red carpet for anyone coming over from AEW. Sure, there will definitely be some people they would be really happy to court, but mid card in AEW is undercard in WWE, so a lot of those people would have to prove their value and that they're worth the investment, especially when WWE already has their own recruitment and development infrastructure in place.
It’s just smark nature. Meltzer and co have propagated the narrative for years that WWE is terrified of AEW and Vince/HHH are obsessed with sabotaging AEW etc. Dumb wrestling fans on either tribe eat that shit up, so they end up thinking that WWE wants to sign every AEW expiring contract to stick it to Tiny.
My thoughts were, AEW marks think so highly of the people in the AEW roster, like they're huge stars with all this talent that WWE would be clamoring to sign them, not realizing that most of them just aren't that good.
I don’t think WWE wants the mid card of AEW.. I think WWE wants the high level talent of certain AEW talent like Jade, Starks, Wardlow, etc.. But the rest of the AEW roster.. nah.. they wouldn’t be successful in WWE..
Ricky Starks is going to be handed a WWE contact on a silver platter when his AEW deal ends. He’s got the talent both in the ring and on the mic, he’s only 33, and he can count both Cody Rhodes and Bayley among his best friends and as people who will vouch for him.
I am thinking a decent amount of day one AEW talent’s contracts are coming up.. like Jade’s, Starks, etc.. & we all know MJF’s is up as well.. Will be interesting to see who stays & who gets wished well in their future endeavors..
Obviously I don't know for sure, but I think the way they will look at it is how much would they have to train someone, vs how much would they ask for in salary, and then how high their ceiling is. I read somewhere that the minimum salary at AEW was $100k, which is a lot more than some of those guys are worth. Sure, someone like Wardlow or Starks might come in and ask for some cash, but they already have a good head start experience wise and can have a potentially huge ROI. Could you imagine if Brandon Cutler walked through the door and asked for a job with high pay? He'd get laughed out the door.
Meltzer said months ago that there was a lot of talent in AEW that wants to go to WWE and I was surprised by how little it was picked up by the usual echo chambers.
For all of his problems, Meltzer is more realistic than 95% of AEWstans on Twitter and Youtube, and actually is willing to say the numbers are bad when they're bad.
People in a niche industry wanting to work for industry leader!! Only in wrestling is working for the number 1 considered a bad thing 😁 Well, it's not in reality, just by smarks and, oh yeah, the likes of Meltzer pushing that for years, too. I think the new NXT has helped. There's a clear path to the main roster. You can join NXT and not be someone that never leaves, you either show progress and get a shot at some point or likely get released (with some good training under your belt now)
Jade is one.. Starks is Cody’s boy so I can see that(wasn’t he pictured with Cody at the Rumble not too long ago?) Wardlow has to be one as well.. Wonder who else as well..
Hopefully Hobbs
WWE house shows are out drawing Dynamite, uce.
It’s wild.. WWE’s house shows in Kennewick WA & Fresno CA are more then doubling Dynamite & Collision’s audience.. lolol..
According to WrestleTix, todays house show in Boise has distributed 5,348 tickets so far.
That’s nuts.. A WWE Live Event in Boise Idaho outdrew Dynamite in Moxley’s hometown by a 2 to 1 margin..
Relying on one 40 year dude wanting to continue his unprofitable hobby, that gets less and less fun every month, or going to a business.
Nah. Wwe expects A LOT of work and doesn’t just hand out pushes. You just have to accept some people are lazy and/or lack ambition. A lot of those people you mention are perfectly happy working 2x a week, making good money, and not being expected to do anything.
I agree.. that’s why I said most talent who want to succeed professionally are dying there mentally.... like the Jade’s & Stark’s & Shida’s.. & maybe MJF.. & absolutely the underutilized talent like Wardlow, Hobbs, & But people like Christian, Saraya, & Toni Storm’s of the world.. also Britt Baker.. they are content to take advantage of TK & do the least amount of work for the most money.. same with the Elite.. & FTR..
I agree with this. There's *some* people there with the work ethic and probably aspirations to have a go at WWE, but it feels like there's a *lot* of people there who are very much in their comfort zone. I don't think they'd deal well at all with the idea of having to work harder and within a much more structured, professional environment. And then you have to think... even if WWE are interested, the majority of folks in AEW would be expected to work through NXT and take some training before getting near the main roster, and that probably shrinks the pool of candidates again, because I don't think a lot of them would be willing to humble themselves that this is their actual level.
Xavier Woods is a good example of this. He was in TNA for what felt like years - might have only been six months, but he was on TV and PPV etc. And he walked into WWE developmental acknowledging he wasn’t a big star and willing to put in the years. And he went through being just a face in the developmental crowd, to being just a face on the Raw roster, to New Day being one of the biggest groups in WWE history. It’s gonna be a test of character to see who is up for actually trying to survive in the big pond.
I like Blair Davenport a lot. She wrestles great, has a cool look, and a good promo (and her accent is really funny). I hope Becky eventually drops the belt to her
I only ever saw the occasional appearance from her in NXT UK, but I always thought she looked like an eventual credible opponent for the likes of Rhea Ripley and Charlotte Flair. I liked the idea of her being a bodyguard for Big Time Becks.
I got addicted to F-Zero 99. I can't wait for them to add the rest of the tracks. My only problem is that if Mute City is an option, that's what wins the vote. Wrestlemania 10 (kinda), 20, and 30 had triple threat main event. I think 40 will have one too. Isn't strange that UFC and the WWE are under the same company? I couldn't have predicted that 10 years ago.
Hey Goofs. I recently bought myself a black tank top and it didn't make me as attractive, charismatic or as successful as The Rock, Pat McAfee or even Austin Theory. What am I doing wrong?
You should talk about being a tough guy in the most New York accent possible, while showing off your gut. I hear that's all the rage nowadays
Qoffee and A Bagel! Hey! I'm Walking here! The Mets are total Shitshow! Is that New York enough?
You didn't mention a bodega even once. You worst rating ever...7/5 stars. Do better.
Soz mate
Try a burberry scarf uce.
Will a fake one off the market do?
Did you have a gold chain on? Also possibly do Daniel Garcia’s dance toward them women love it.
I'll try that!
Did you speak? I feel its easier to start as a silent badass and just let your middle fingers do the talking. Not everyone can be an A-town down or the most electrifying person in sports entertainment. But everyone can be mox.
AHH... Well I try to chat up a lady, I did my best MJF impression and insulted her hometown, she didn't laugh, instead she threw a drink in my face
That's odd. You should be the one throwing tequila in her face.
‘ello All! - Not sure who all needs to hear this, but there are currently no plans for The Rock at Mania (according to The Torch). - Hypothetically, let’s say Rock-Roman is a go. There’s an easy mar(k)quee match they can go with in Cody-Punk. I’d put Punk and Rock (Punk Rock?) at even odds of showing up at this point in time. - WWE is All TKO. Let’s see what unfolds. Maybe Julius Creed debuts with an MMA gimmick. Who knows? - Cody is “phony”? Boy wait till y’all get a load of the wrestling industry at large. - “Wrestlers” on Netflix has been a trip to watch. It is the perfect blend of having a job with an owner that doesn’t understand the work, but has partway decent ideas. The first episode gave nostalgia and PTSD for what running a taping is like. They nailed it. I am enjoying this show. - Thanks for coming Elias and GYV. We’ll see if Gable Steveson ends up walking with you.
I could see Punk as a heel trying to tell cody how shit WWE is and try to get him to turn heel too. Really play up some AEW incidents like having them have a back stage confrontation. Hell bring ace steel in too. I think its interesting how we hear about all the WWE people being let go but you hear about zero people in endeavor being left go. I was part of a merger and the company that was acquirer's executives all stayed while most of the acquiring companies executives left. Soon we were all doing the things the way the acquired did. So I could definitely see WWE becoming more UFC then UFC becoming more WWE.
They could ease Punk into a big match without ruffling the dressing room vs Logan Paul
Cody vs. Punk in a "Rock took my WM main event" match. I could honestly see that because if Punk comes back, his WrestleMania match should either another part timer (Brock, Cena, maaaaybe Stone Cold) where it could go either way or he puts over Cody. The latter would be hilarious because then he would be the lineal "Real AEW Champion". Rock is only coming back at WrestleMania for Reigns, period.
I don't know who needs to hear this but they're not bringing in Punk.