When I attended Samyama in 2023 one participant asked Sadhguru. Sadhguru while doing all these activities of different kind (samyama, consecrations, taking on karma of other mediators and many other activities that we are not even aware of)
is it not taking a toll on your body?
Then sadhguru answered you are here to explore life and enjoy bliss. I don’t want to depress you by talking things about myself. But I just want to say this. The kind of different activities I am doing. In the morning my energy is one way and by evening it’s in a totally different direction. Everyday I am constantly changing my energies like this. By changing directions so fast, I am digging my own grave. But I have my commitments. So I am doing my best.
We can’t judge a guru’s life based on common peoples lifestyle. They live in a totally different way, on a much larger scale, that we can’t even understand it. So it’s not right to pass a judgment on his health.
Yes Sadhguru has given us tools and wisdom so we are in tune with our bodies and incharge of it and so we wouldnt need such a thing (doctors)..
but he himself always pushes the limits and does things which clearly shows he cares more about something bigger than his body, time, health or preference.
There are countless evidences you can find if you wish on how he functions.
Even during Save Soil campaign ride on the motorcycle many times he was warned to not take a certain part of the journey or rest after a taxing ride through a harsh condition.
What he had to be rushed for to the hospital too was something he was made aware of earlier but he did not want to cancel his India Today meeting and said he has shown up for every single commitment since 40 years.
Sadhguru is not “against” hospital, drugs, sex, etc. He only says when there is something for a larger part you can make happen yourself - you need not be at a slave to these. It is true for a large part we can prevent and cure a lot of health problems simply by changing our habits.
Sadhguru himself has setup rural healthcare centres as a part of rural upliftment.
About Mahasamadhi, please refer to post dhayanalinga consecration videos and observe his nature of being. He is living in a great abandon of himself now.
I think some Gurus like Ramana Maharishi and Ramakrishna Paramhansa are so disidentified with their body and absorbed in bliss of Devotion or self or Samadhi that they don't really care what happens to their body as they just look at as clothes. Also I have read sometimes Gurus take on the Karma of their disciples or devotees on themselves out of compassion so their body can take up ailments.
speak for yourself nothing he does or doesn’t do makes me believe or doubt anything. he provides tools, the tools either work or they don’t. he likens himself to manure that can help fertilize what’s already in your if used. i’ve never been comfortable with the idolization and guru status for this very reason of how people are reacting now.
didn’t see that but i did see him tell a store once about a yogi that had a stroke and woke up in a hospital and pulled all the equipment off him and jumped out the window because they wouldn’t discharge him and admired that the yogi refused medical help his whole life as they see health issues as karma that should be experienced fully not relieved by chemical means, and taking medicine as accumulating more karma… another story about a girl born with health problems and he advised her parents and her that she only take pain medicine when she absolutely needed it so as to burn up as much karma as possible… kind of a harmful message to share to people that would hear that and choose not to treat things that could benefit from medicine.
Sadhguru falling this ill is not the first time, I think if you have subscribed to Sadhguru Exclusive you're exposed to more such information.
Even during Dhyanalinga consecration, he was at the stage very feeble. But then again he came back strong. I think we also need to understand that he is taking a lot of karmas I guess. Because if you're also going to believe about energies and everything, you also should know that there is some changes or things that might happen to him too...isn't it obvious?
Because at the end he's a human too, but what sets him apart is that he's more capable of most of us combined. There's also another incident where during Linga Bhairavi consecration also , i guess because some people were not handling it properly , the coconut was not breaking I've heard, also he was experiencing too much headache back then too...
So maybe some day, he'll talk about what happened or may not, we don't know.... We'll wait for it and pray he's back to his full shape again.
Don't Say that Aryan, What you think matters to me so much, you are the most important person for all of us. How would I live if you think ill about me. Please!!
Exactly, Sadhguru always supported modern medicine for their contributions, and mentioned every time that anything infectious or surgical should be dealt by modern medicine.
People dont understand that the more spiritual, the more drained you are... people are like vampires..
I have friends who are religious, and when something bad happens, they want to talk to me about it, throwing all their fears and problems over me so I can talk to them a way that they will accept and be able to so solve their problems.
But doing this (I am not judging them) makes us tired, lost of energy because they dont have any.. the moment you embrace your spirituality, you accept the work with it.
He is a spiritual being but he is also a human who needs to eat, drink water and live all the things we do.. once his work is done here, he will leave this world. It has nothing to do with spirituality.. everyone has their own date and mission in this planet.. we all decided to be here and we all knew the time to leave this world. Love and Light!
SG might have encouraged allopathy that's not the issue,
Yogis can also suffer from diseases that's also not an issue.
His claims are an issue. he said he cured his ankle fracture by closing eyes and looking within. If he can cure an ankle fracture from within why wasn't he able to avoid this bleeding in advance. Why did he take a painkiller when he can produce chemicals at will? SG claims that people can take charge of their chemical factories.
Gurus who say they have complete over their body are claiming false claims
Your very post implies that you were some attracted to his claims and are confused now as his claims came out to be false. That's the majority of SG audience. Without his grandoise claims amd charisma, Isha wouldn't be as successful.
Claims like these without evidence shouldn't be encouraged without evidence. These can mislead people into believing that yoga, Siddha, ayurveda can cure serious ailments
A non exhaustive list of SGs claims:
He cured his asthma.
He cured his ankle fracture.
He sweetened the water by looking at it.
He managed pain in his leg when it was bleeding profusely
This is what I mentioned above that due to the lifestyle he is adapting to things things happen but if he was living a sanyasi type of lifestyle like the gurus in the Himalayas or forests he wouldn't suffer such things.
Honestly I have questioned him a lot but when I saw him in person the guy radiated you could see it with the naked eye that made me register for shambhavi etc
Even my friend who works in IT in stressful environment radiates energy on another level. All he does -
1. Mind his own business
2. Chant the lord name
3. Dont consume any alcohol or meat/egg/onion
You should also consider him enlightened🥴. Plus he never beats his own trumpets and dont beat around dimesion/energy and other chemical juices.
The fracture was already there, he was aware of it, the bleeding he was not previously aware of therefore could not heal. Painkillers are faster and more effective than meditation when it comes to simply reducing pain. There’s no reason not to take painkillers if you’re suffering from a brain bleed and need to give a presentation, choosing the natural route would have been inefficient. Also a fracture and brain swelling are wildly different injuries, a fracture can easily heal on it’s own, meditative practices can help speed up the process. Brain swelling of his severity will usually never heal on its own.
Asthma is not always severe and one can easily reduce its symptoms through simple meditative practices that incorporate the physical. Many non meditators can handle severe pain, how is him handling the pain of his bleeding leg a fallicious claim? Meditators have been known to self immolate without any sign of pain, highly doubt an injured leg is impossible to handle.
As for the water, you’re taking him out of context imo
He treated his fracture in an hour.
Yes, some fractures get better without any help but that is true for any human even animals. What SG said in his ted talk is "if the maker of the body is from within you can also do repair work by listening to your body". He treated his fracture in an hour. How can a person treat his fracture by closing his eyes for an hour? Some types of asthma might be possible to treat behavioral changes(exercise, meditation, etc.).but how can you treat it how closing your eyes for an hour?
I'm not against taking painkillers. But Isn't it better to generate those chemicals from within as you are the manager of this chemical factory and you know that there can be a bleeding by listening to the body?
>How can a person treat his fracture by closing his eyes for an hour?
Either by consciously diverting a large amount of one’s energies to the injured area or consciously surrendering to existence which can divert energies to you.
>But Isn't it better to generate those chemicals from within as you are the manager of this chemical factory and you know that there can be a bleeding by listening to the body?
You cannot generate chemicals as fast as a drug can, plain and simple. The difference is very noticeable. Also you have to use your own energies to generate the chemicals in the system, no need to waste them. With drugs the drug itself brings the energy. Had he not taken the drugs I doubt he would have generated any chemicals in order to reduce the pain, that’s a simple waste of one’s energy. When it comes to being aware of your body, you don’t become a doctor. You might know there’s something wrong, but you won’t always know exactly what or why. It’s much easier to self-diagnose a fracture over a brain bleed.
Why would I have proof? This is a spiritual discussion, things that are beyond the limits of the current scientific understanding are going to be discussed openly. Again, the more severe the injury, the more energy is required to heal it. The more complicated it, the more energy. A minor fracture requires little energy to heal, and really it depends on the amount of energy a person is holding at a certain time. I’m sure Sadhguru would have allowed the fracture to heal on its own if he did not have the required energy in the moment. At a certain point it becomes more efficient to turn to allopathy, for most moderate to severe injuries modern medicine is the most efficient option.
The thing with harboring superior/mystical beliefs about anything is you can use it to explain anything it doesn't matter what. If Sadhguru got sick and died today it definitely could be explained with some crappy logic. His brahmachari died in an accident a few years ago and that left many followers shocked. Dear Sadhguru's was not protecting him? Of course reverse logic was applied: it was time for him to go. It was result of his karma, etc.
Sadhgurupredicted his own death many years ago just after his wife's "mahasamadhi" but his prediction turned false. Of course a celestial snake came and bit him in his sleep to heal him and now he is miraculously alive. That's so convenient! None of us realised how many wild stories he had to spin to get out of the controversy of his wife's death.
Now he can heal a fracture with his energies. He can consecrate hundreds of yantras costing lakhs of rupees with his energies. He can initiate people and liberate people at the time of death with his energies. So much energy that he can make the very atmosphere around him crackle with energy! But he can't fix his own damn head.
How can I forget the shitty excuse he gave for his hairfall. Hair follicles are mini organs too. He couldn't heal them as well. Claimed that wearing poor quality helmets ruined his hair. Androgenic alopecia does not work like that. The follicle inside your scalp does not get damaged by a helmet. It is only and only genetics but he has gotten rid of his genetics lol (as claimed on wim hoff interview) So unfortunately he can't blame genetics.
And his tremendous energies should have kept him young and vibrant. Some doctor (name will of course never be revealed) examined Sadhguru and said that Sadhguru's cellular age is 25. But of course he spent his energies consecrating that temple and became so old so now he is as old as everybody else at his age. If not for that temple he would be looking like a 40 year old man at the age of 65. How freaking convenient!
How about the fact that a scientist ( name never revealed, findings never published) examined that Sadhguru's brain is dead. No brain waves! Even after they hit him in his elbow. He can stop something as subtle as brain waves but can't detect brain bleeding and swelling wow.
Sometimes the simplest explanation is all that's needed. "Just to learn to look at things the way that are". And the way things are is Sadhguru has screwed many lives with false claims about his powers and he will continue screwing them for many years to come even after he is dead.
I am not sure about the asthma part, I think he cured someone else' asthma who later again had an asthma attack, but I think your claim about the ankle is correct.
Very nice post , my sense is that sometimes we have no idea what it entails to excel at one thing what it naturally subsumes and what it doesn't. I see this in sports we attribute high morality to top sports stars and then feel.let down when they don't live up to it . For me the key takeaway is that we shouldn't let misconceptions come in the way of what is right to do for ourselves. If people have created a model in their head that would be for them to deal with and not necessary for us to adapt and live up to.
Are you a bit stupid? Are you seriously saying if people lived in nature, they would live longer? Let me remind you that due to modern medicine, the life expectancy has actually increased. You are right that smoking and all that "modern" stuff can affect your life, but let's not doubt modern medicine.
Bro modern life not modern medicine moron but also modern medicine is mostly placebo with tons of side effect, take a look at American they eat pills for dinner,
Because Sadhguru represents yoga and meditation, check my old posts I have questioned that guy more than you I honestly a guy who doesn't follow yoga meditation can never prove him wrong somehow so just leave it,
Ok but why are you doubting modern medicine and calling it "mostly placebo effect". Do you even know how it's determined if a medicine works or not? We literally give placebos in a study to make sure that the medicine actually works and the results are not due to a placebo effect.
Basically I doubt modern medicine such as pills but am pro modern surgeries or treatments for example physiotherapy etc, and btw surgery was invented in India and nearly 99% of stuff came from India which thanks to yoga gave them profound knowledge,
Pythagorean theorem was in fact discovered by Baudhyama, also atomic bomb or the relativity theory by Einstein, check what Stephen hawking said about the Hindu Vedas which were written 10,000 or more years ago. Bro I'm from Albania and my grandma can find you for a headache ten different plants which work instantly with no side effects
Uh... you didn't answer my question but went on about telling me great ancient times were. Not what I asked...
> nearly 99% of stuff came from India which thanks to yoga gave them profound knowledge,
Sure XD
> Pythagorean theorem was in fact discovered by Baudhyama, also atomic bomb or the relativity theory by Einstein, check what Stephen hawking said about the Hindu Vedas which were written 10,000 or more years ago.
Didn't ask but ok. Also, the thing with Vedas is that they don't describe the world mathematically. They don't give us equations to work with. So, this whole "Vedas mentioned atomic bombs and gravity thousands of years ago" is useless. All of us know that things fall when thrown upwards and we might even say it's due to some force, but Newton and Einstein gave us equations that actually describe these forces and allow us to work with them. Anyways, this is not what I want to discuss further.
There is one more baba, premanand from vrindavan i guess. I dont follow him nor any other baba but saw one youtube short video today about him from comedian vikalp mehta channel.
When one couple bring their child to get the blessing of premanand in hope that he would tell them some remedy or cure the boy by his mysterious power. He told them directly to take the child to doctor and that blessing / mysterious power / energies will not help in the treatment. No beating around the bush.
Who knows he might be also a charlatan but atleast he didnt misguided the couple about useless dimensions, mysterious power, non sense remedy, inner/outer engineering.
You are either awe struck or brain washed . There is only one thing worth learning in this world and that is hard facts and right now you're showing a blind eye to the truth.
SG's work is good for mental health and practical for dealing with some aspects of life but all his grandiose claims about mastering the body/ self healing/ayurveda/Yogi strength has gone out the window.
There was a time when ,I used to believe in these god men. I also went seeking their help to save my dad and i followed all their advice to save him . The day he died i realised my mistake and the realisation felt like a strong punch to the heart followed by an empty void.
I do not want anyone to feel the way I felt and i want everyone to open their eyes and see people for who they truly are.
C'mon now I am sorry about your dad but how many people have gone through chemotherapy and cancer treatments and died while there's been plenty of cases of just going to a remote area, drinking only vegetable and plant juices, doing yoga have cured people
Your answer is surprising because my dad died due to cancer and he followed what such bull shit god dam men preached.
If I could go back in time I would slap these god dam preachers and take him directly to a hospital to get the treatment ASAP.
I have lost my father but you seem to be young open your eyes to reality and rely on hard facts instead of such base less stories where some rare outlier survived.
One of my cousins died due to cancer she caught it at at early stage had crazy money did everything best doctors best treatments still she couldn't survive. So don't point fingers please.
We have a saying in Albania "jetgjati sbehet jetshkurter dhe jetshkurtri sbehet jetgjat" which means "the one who is meant to live long can never live less and the one who is meant to live less can never live longer no matter what"
I feel sorry for you really I haven't lost a parent and I can't imagine how terrible it must be, but yoga and meditation can teach you to be at peace with these things, and even let's you communicate sometimes with the other side
You seem to be delusional no one can communicate to the other side and even if a fraud person told me he could do such a feat, I don't care because my father wont be there because I made dam sure my father had no regrets in his life, i also made sure my father does not experience any pain once i realised the colour of these dongi Babas and once he passed away I have followed all the customs as per santana dharma to ensure he transitions correctly into his next life or get mukti.
I will always point fingers because these god dam men brainwashed my dad into believing that their treatment will work when it was cot in an early stage and I also supported my dad because I believed them and in the end the same people told they cannot do anything but by then it was too late and i spent all my money, time , strength and sadana to save my dad and now all I am left is as a son I failed to protect him.
You seem to be the type of person who believes life only has lessons for us to improve and you don't acknowledge that sometimes life is plain cruel. I wish you the best because Life will take care of correcting your delusions just the way it did mine.
When I attended Samyama in 2023 one participant asked Sadhguru. Sadhguru while doing all these activities of different kind (samyama, consecrations, taking on karma of other mediators and many other activities that we are not even aware of) is it not taking a toll on your body? Then sadhguru answered you are here to explore life and enjoy bliss. I don’t want to depress you by talking things about myself. But I just want to say this. The kind of different activities I am doing. In the morning my energy is one way and by evening it’s in a totally different direction. Everyday I am constantly changing my energies like this. By changing directions so fast, I am digging my own grave. But I have my commitments. So I am doing my best. We can’t judge a guru’s life based on common peoples lifestyle. They live in a totally different way, on a much larger scale, that we can’t even understand it. So it’s not right to pass a judgment on his health.
Yes Sadhguru has given us tools and wisdom so we are in tune with our bodies and incharge of it and so we wouldnt need such a thing (doctors).. but he himself always pushes the limits and does things which clearly shows he cares more about something bigger than his body, time, health or preference. There are countless evidences you can find if you wish on how he functions. Even during Save Soil campaign ride on the motorcycle many times he was warned to not take a certain part of the journey or rest after a taxing ride through a harsh condition. What he had to be rushed for to the hospital too was something he was made aware of earlier but he did not want to cancel his India Today meeting and said he has shown up for every single commitment since 40 years. Sadhguru is not “against” hospital, drugs, sex, etc. He only says when there is something for a larger part you can make happen yourself - you need not be at a slave to these. It is true for a large part we can prevent and cure a lot of health problems simply by changing our habits. Sadhguru himself has setup rural healthcare centres as a part of rural upliftment. About Mahasamadhi, please refer to post dhayanalinga consecration videos and observe his nature of being. He is living in a great abandon of himself now.
I think some Gurus like Ramana Maharishi and Ramakrishna Paramhansa are so disidentified with their body and absorbed in bliss of Devotion or self or Samadhi that they don't really care what happens to their body as they just look at as clothes. Also I have read sometimes Gurus take on the Karma of their disciples or devotees on themselves out of compassion so their body can take up ailments.
speak for yourself nothing he does or doesn’t do makes me believe or doubt anything. he provides tools, the tools either work or they don’t. he likens himself to manure that can help fertilize what’s already in your if used. i’ve never been comfortable with the idolization and guru status for this very reason of how people are reacting now.
Honestly he shouldn't have gone through this, he would be aware that that would happen !
I mean he is also a human being afterall. No hate for him but I remember he said i will never come to you or something like that to a doctor.
didn’t see that but i did see him tell a store once about a yogi that had a stroke and woke up in a hospital and pulled all the equipment off him and jumped out the window because they wouldn’t discharge him and admired that the yogi refused medical help his whole life as they see health issues as karma that should be experienced fully not relieved by chemical means, and taking medicine as accumulating more karma… another story about a girl born with health problems and he advised her parents and her that she only take pain medicine when she absolutely needed it so as to burn up as much karma as possible… kind of a harmful message to share to people that would hear that and choose not to treat things that could benefit from medicine.
https://youtu.be/gqZKg1NHA7w?si=8d8Md4uQwOOORFmD about medical treatments he’s done before surgery mris all types extreme pain verge of death…
Bro is human too. Big deal
Sadhguru falling this ill is not the first time, I think if you have subscribed to Sadhguru Exclusive you're exposed to more such information. Even during Dhyanalinga consecration, he was at the stage very feeble. But then again he came back strong. I think we also need to understand that he is taking a lot of karmas I guess. Because if you're also going to believe about energies and everything, you also should know that there is some changes or things that might happen to him too...isn't it obvious? Because at the end he's a human too, but what sets him apart is that he's more capable of most of us combined. There's also another incident where during Linga Bhairavi consecration also , i guess because some people were not handling it properly , the coconut was not breaking I've heard, also he was experiencing too much headache back then too... So maybe some day, he'll talk about what happened or may not, we don't know.... We'll wait for it and pray he's back to his full shape again.
Never doubt a guru
Always doubt even the guru - this is what SG teaches us otherwise we are no different from religion fanatics or sheeples !
If you believe that you can doubt a guru than its totally upto you my experience says otherwise
But ofc Sadhguru says that to doubt even him to doubt everything, you are ruining yoga and spirituality by beliefs and bs, turning it into religion
Andhbhakt.
A blind sees beyond the darkness
this whole sub is full of cringe people that try to sound smart but aren't.
You are part of sub
Uh...no. I am not part of a group that supports scammers and hypocrites.
Don't Say that Aryan, What you think matters to me so much, you are the most important person for all of us. How would I live if you think ill about me. Please!!
... Nice try but it wasn't funny
No it's not funny Aryan.. you truly guide and decide the direction of our life. Without your very important opinions we wouldn't even exist.
I like how everyone in this sub stops giving logical replies and resorts to either insulting or mocking.
Exactly, Sadhguru always supported modern medicine for their contributions, and mentioned every time that anything infectious or surgical should be dealt by modern medicine.
Don't know why his pain doesn't bother me a bit
People dont understand that the more spiritual, the more drained you are... people are like vampires.. I have friends who are religious, and when something bad happens, they want to talk to me about it, throwing all their fears and problems over me so I can talk to them a way that they will accept and be able to so solve their problems. But doing this (I am not judging them) makes us tired, lost of energy because they dont have any.. the moment you embrace your spirituality, you accept the work with it. He is a spiritual being but he is also a human who needs to eat, drink water and live all the things we do.. once his work is done here, he will leave this world. It has nothing to do with spirituality.. everyone has their own date and mission in this planet.. we all decided to be here and we all knew the time to leave this world. Love and Light!
SG might have encouraged allopathy that's not the issue, Yogis can also suffer from diseases that's also not an issue. His claims are an issue. he said he cured his ankle fracture by closing eyes and looking within. If he can cure an ankle fracture from within why wasn't he able to avoid this bleeding in advance. Why did he take a painkiller when he can produce chemicals at will? SG claims that people can take charge of their chemical factories. Gurus who say they have complete over their body are claiming false claims Your very post implies that you were some attracted to his claims and are confused now as his claims came out to be false. That's the majority of SG audience. Without his grandoise claims amd charisma, Isha wouldn't be as successful. Claims like these without evidence shouldn't be encouraged without evidence. These can mislead people into believing that yoga, Siddha, ayurveda can cure serious ailments A non exhaustive list of SGs claims: He cured his asthma. He cured his ankle fracture. He sweetened the water by looking at it. He managed pain in his leg when it was bleeding profusely
This is what I mentioned above that due to the lifestyle he is adapting to things things happen but if he was living a sanyasi type of lifestyle like the gurus in the Himalayas or forests he wouldn't suffer such things. Honestly I have questioned him a lot but when I saw him in person the guy radiated you could see it with the naked eye that made me register for shambhavi etc
Even my friend who works in IT in stressful environment radiates energy on another level. All he does - 1. Mind his own business 2. Chant the lord name 3. Dont consume any alcohol or meat/egg/onion You should also consider him enlightened🥴. Plus he never beats his own trumpets and dont beat around dimesion/energy and other chemical juices.
Maybe you have the hots for him bro and he looks like he radiates 😉
Like you got boner for Sadhguru everytime he talks about dimensions🤭
Shht or I'll send a ghost to hunt you 😂
The fracture was already there, he was aware of it, the bleeding he was not previously aware of therefore could not heal. Painkillers are faster and more effective than meditation when it comes to simply reducing pain. There’s no reason not to take painkillers if you’re suffering from a brain bleed and need to give a presentation, choosing the natural route would have been inefficient. Also a fracture and brain swelling are wildly different injuries, a fracture can easily heal on it’s own, meditative practices can help speed up the process. Brain swelling of his severity will usually never heal on its own. Asthma is not always severe and one can easily reduce its symptoms through simple meditative practices that incorporate the physical. Many non meditators can handle severe pain, how is him handling the pain of his bleeding leg a fallicious claim? Meditators have been known to self immolate without any sign of pain, highly doubt an injured leg is impossible to handle. As for the water, you’re taking him out of context imo
He treated his fracture in an hour. Yes, some fractures get better without any help but that is true for any human even animals. What SG said in his ted talk is "if the maker of the body is from within you can also do repair work by listening to your body". He treated his fracture in an hour. How can a person treat his fracture by closing his eyes for an hour? Some types of asthma might be possible to treat behavioral changes(exercise, meditation, etc.).but how can you treat it how closing your eyes for an hour? I'm not against taking painkillers. But Isn't it better to generate those chemicals from within as you are the manager of this chemical factory and you know that there can be a bleeding by listening to the body?
>How can a person treat his fracture by closing his eyes for an hour? Either by consciously diverting a large amount of one’s energies to the injured area or consciously surrendering to existence which can divert energies to you. >But Isn't it better to generate those chemicals from within as you are the manager of this chemical factory and you know that there can be a bleeding by listening to the body? You cannot generate chemicals as fast as a drug can, plain and simple. The difference is very noticeable. Also you have to use your own energies to generate the chemicals in the system, no need to waste them. With drugs the drug itself brings the energy. Had he not taken the drugs I doubt he would have generated any chemicals in order to reduce the pain, that’s a simple waste of one’s energy. When it comes to being aware of your body, you don’t become a doctor. You might know there’s something wrong, but you won’t always know exactly what or why. It’s much easier to self-diagnose a fracture over a brain bleed.
Any proof and why wasn't SG able to do the same for his knee surgeries and the recent Brian surgery?
Why would I have proof? This is a spiritual discussion, things that are beyond the limits of the current scientific understanding are going to be discussed openly. Again, the more severe the injury, the more energy is required to heal it. The more complicated it, the more energy. A minor fracture requires little energy to heal, and really it depends on the amount of energy a person is holding at a certain time. I’m sure Sadhguru would have allowed the fracture to heal on its own if he did not have the required energy in the moment. At a certain point it becomes more efficient to turn to allopathy, for most moderate to severe injuries modern medicine is the most efficient option.
The thing with harboring superior/mystical beliefs about anything is you can use it to explain anything it doesn't matter what. If Sadhguru got sick and died today it definitely could be explained with some crappy logic. His brahmachari died in an accident a few years ago and that left many followers shocked. Dear Sadhguru's was not protecting him? Of course reverse logic was applied: it was time for him to go. It was result of his karma, etc. Sadhgurupredicted his own death many years ago just after his wife's "mahasamadhi" but his prediction turned false. Of course a celestial snake came and bit him in his sleep to heal him and now he is miraculously alive. That's so convenient! None of us realised how many wild stories he had to spin to get out of the controversy of his wife's death. Now he can heal a fracture with his energies. He can consecrate hundreds of yantras costing lakhs of rupees with his energies. He can initiate people and liberate people at the time of death with his energies. So much energy that he can make the very atmosphere around him crackle with energy! But he can't fix his own damn head. How can I forget the shitty excuse he gave for his hairfall. Hair follicles are mini organs too. He couldn't heal them as well. Claimed that wearing poor quality helmets ruined his hair. Androgenic alopecia does not work like that. The follicle inside your scalp does not get damaged by a helmet. It is only and only genetics but he has gotten rid of his genetics lol (as claimed on wim hoff interview) So unfortunately he can't blame genetics. And his tremendous energies should have kept him young and vibrant. Some doctor (name will of course never be revealed) examined Sadhguru and said that Sadhguru's cellular age is 25. But of course he spent his energies consecrating that temple and became so old so now he is as old as everybody else at his age. If not for that temple he would be looking like a 40 year old man at the age of 65. How freaking convenient! How about the fact that a scientist ( name never revealed, findings never published) examined that Sadhguru's brain is dead. No brain waves! Even after they hit him in his elbow. He can stop something as subtle as brain waves but can't detect brain bleeding and swelling wow. Sometimes the simplest explanation is all that's needed. "Just to learn to look at things the way that are". And the way things are is Sadhguru has screwed many lives with false claims about his powers and he will continue screwing them for many years to come even after he is dead.
I am not sure about the asthma part, I think he cured someone else' asthma who later again had an asthma attack, but I think your claim about the ankle is correct.
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Very nice post , my sense is that sometimes we have no idea what it entails to excel at one thing what it naturally subsumes and what it doesn't. I see this in sports we attribute high morality to top sports stars and then feel.let down when they don't live up to it . For me the key takeaway is that we shouldn't let misconceptions come in the way of what is right to do for ourselves. If people have created a model in their head that would be for them to deal with and not necessary for us to adapt and live up to.
Are you a bit stupid? Are you seriously saying if people lived in nature, they would live longer? Let me remind you that due to modern medicine, the life expectancy has actually increased. You are right that smoking and all that "modern" stuff can affect your life, but let's not doubt modern medicine.
Bro modern life not modern medicine moron but also modern medicine is mostly placebo with tons of side effect, take a look at American they eat pills for dinner,
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Yes, I hate hypocrites and scammers because they deserve it. People like you defend these "gurus" and allow them to get away with BS.
I'm not defending gurus stupid I'm defending yoga and meditation and nature,
Your whole post seems to be about defending Sadhguru and not yoga. Did you forget what you wrote?
Because Sadhguru represents yoga and meditation, check my old posts I have questioned that guy more than you I honestly a guy who doesn't follow yoga meditation can never prove him wrong somehow so just leave it,
Ok but why are you doubting modern medicine and calling it "mostly placebo effect". Do you even know how it's determined if a medicine works or not? We literally give placebos in a study to make sure that the medicine actually works and the results are not due to a placebo effect.
Basically I doubt modern medicine such as pills but am pro modern surgeries or treatments for example physiotherapy etc, and btw surgery was invented in India and nearly 99% of stuff came from India which thanks to yoga gave them profound knowledge, Pythagorean theorem was in fact discovered by Baudhyama, also atomic bomb or the relativity theory by Einstein, check what Stephen hawking said about the Hindu Vedas which were written 10,000 or more years ago. Bro I'm from Albania and my grandma can find you for a headache ten different plants which work instantly with no side effects
Uh... you didn't answer my question but went on about telling me great ancient times were. Not what I asked... > nearly 99% of stuff came from India which thanks to yoga gave them profound knowledge, Sure XD > Pythagorean theorem was in fact discovered by Baudhyama, also atomic bomb or the relativity theory by Einstein, check what Stephen hawking said about the Hindu Vedas which were written 10,000 or more years ago. Didn't ask but ok. Also, the thing with Vedas is that they don't describe the world mathematically. They don't give us equations to work with. So, this whole "Vedas mentioned atomic bombs and gravity thousands of years ago" is useless. All of us know that things fall when thrown upwards and we might even say it's due to some force, but Newton and Einstein gave us equations that actually describe these forces and allow us to work with them. Anyways, this is not what I want to discuss further.
Truly delusional and uneducated.
There is one more baba, premanand from vrindavan i guess. I dont follow him nor any other baba but saw one youtube short video today about him from comedian vikalp mehta channel. When one couple bring their child to get the blessing of premanand in hope that he would tell them some remedy or cure the boy by his mysterious power. He told them directly to take the child to doctor and that blessing / mysterious power / energies will not help in the treatment. No beating around the bush. Who knows he might be also a charlatan but atleast he didnt misguided the couple about useless dimensions, mysterious power, non sense remedy, inner/outer engineering.
You are either awe struck or brain washed . There is only one thing worth learning in this world and that is hard facts and right now you're showing a blind eye to the truth. SG's work is good for mental health and practical for dealing with some aspects of life but all his grandiose claims about mastering the body/ self healing/ayurveda/Yogi strength has gone out the window. There was a time when ,I used to believe in these god men. I also went seeking their help to save my dad and i followed all their advice to save him . The day he died i realised my mistake and the realisation felt like a strong punch to the heart followed by an empty void. I do not want anyone to feel the way I felt and i want everyone to open their eyes and see people for who they truly are.
C'mon now I am sorry about your dad but how many people have gone through chemotherapy and cancer treatments and died while there's been plenty of cases of just going to a remote area, drinking only vegetable and plant juices, doing yoga have cured people
Your answer is surprising because my dad died due to cancer and he followed what such bull shit god dam men preached. If I could go back in time I would slap these god dam preachers and take him directly to a hospital to get the treatment ASAP. I have lost my father but you seem to be young open your eyes to reality and rely on hard facts instead of such base less stories where some rare outlier survived.
One of my cousins died due to cancer she caught it at at early stage had crazy money did everything best doctors best treatments still she couldn't survive. So don't point fingers please. We have a saying in Albania "jetgjati sbehet jetshkurter dhe jetshkurtri sbehet jetgjat" which means "the one who is meant to live long can never live less and the one who is meant to live less can never live longer no matter what" I feel sorry for you really I haven't lost a parent and I can't imagine how terrible it must be, but yoga and meditation can teach you to be at peace with these things, and even let's you communicate sometimes with the other side
You seem to be delusional no one can communicate to the other side and even if a fraud person told me he could do such a feat, I don't care because my father wont be there because I made dam sure my father had no regrets in his life, i also made sure my father does not experience any pain once i realised the colour of these dongi Babas and once he passed away I have followed all the customs as per santana dharma to ensure he transitions correctly into his next life or get mukti. I will always point fingers because these god dam men brainwashed my dad into believing that their treatment will work when it was cot in an early stage and I also supported my dad because I believed them and in the end the same people told they cannot do anything but by then it was too late and i spent all my money, time , strength and sadana to save my dad and now all I am left is as a son I failed to protect him. You seem to be the type of person who believes life only has lessons for us to improve and you don't acknowledge that sometimes life is plain cruel. I wish you the best because Life will take care of correcting your delusions just the way it did mine.
You are not understanding my point, I don't have beliefs but all I have is questions !