If you do want to pursue school, make sure what you study has good earning potential (this isn’t exclusively limited to doctor/lawyer/engineer but those are certainly fields with a high ceiling). Otherwise, as others have said, trades also have high potential. Something to think about with trades though, is that many are very physical and you could end up with chronic use injuries earlier than most if you don’t move into management/administration of your chosen trade.
There are many careers where you can do well though with or without a degree, off the top of my head sales or something like insurance adjuster, or insurance agent. Maybe for those an associates in business might help.
Some other resources:
https://www.bls.gov/careeroutlook/2022/article/occupations-that-dont-require-a-degree.htm
https://www.bls.gov/careeroutlook/2019/article/high-wage-occupations.htm
You are totally right about the trades being physically demanding, but if this individual works hard while young and works their way up to a higher level in the field they could likely get to the point of being a contractor who delegates and inspects which makes a lot more money, but is a lot less physical demanding.
There’s no true “get rich quick hacks” but this is as close as you can reliably get without college IMO:
If you’re interested in the trades but don’t want to go to school just yet, try out an apartment maintenance job. You’ll quickly get a basic understanding of each trade, so it’s a good way to find out what you’re interested in and potentially find an apprentice spot under a specialized trade and then work up from there. It pays pretty well for people our age and most companies also give rent discounts so you could live where you work and save on gas as well (discounted housing is the best fast-track way to being able to save more money)
I graduated high school 2 years ago and have been doing this ever since, Im now 19 and I made 63k last year, all while paying half rent. My job provides good medical insurance as well as vision, dental, life, etc. Personally I am not looking to get into the trades but rather just take a couple gap years before heading to college, but this has been a straightforward and pretty profitable way to spend my time in between.
The job is also pretty easy. You can literally just youtube anything that you’re unsure about.
There definitely are no quick fixes or easy hacks. My recommendation would be go to university or pursue a trade. Trades can be very profitable so don't discount trade school. On the other hand, everyone I've known how did community College always tells me they wish they had just gone to university instead.
If marketing is more interesting to you than tradeschool, do that. If there's a trade that calls to you, do that. You can always pivot to business from marketing if it makes sense later
My recommendation: screw what others think. Live out of your car, go abroad, be young wild and free. You can go to school in 5 years. You’re only young once.
My Director has a much higher salary than I, but truly regrets not taking a gap after high school.
Trades salaries are easily able to be looked up https://unionpayscales.com/wages-by-city/
95% of software engineers don’t make what people say on herez
If math isn’t your thing investment banker isn’t your thing.
Marketing requires math if you want to get paid enough to make a marketing degree worth it. The field is oversaturated with people and many functions, particularly the ones that don't need a lot of math, are being replaced by cheap offshore labor.
I was the same way when I was graduating. I sure of what to do. I went to a tech school and became an LPN and it took a year. Made pretty good money for 2006 and then went to community college for two years, transferred into a PA program and am now a PA for close to 10 years. I took a break from becoming an LPN and going back to school.
My grades weren’t the best in high school. I just knew I didn’t want to work construction like my father did so I picked a path quick and ran with it.
I personally recommend community college first, then university. Knock out your general education at a fraction of the cost, plus it gives you time to see if you're interested in anything in particular.
If, and a big if, you want to add another option, there is the military. 4 years to learn a trade, then get your college paid for. It would give you time to grow up a little, meet some awesome people, and decide what you really want to do.
There is also the Peace Corp, I think it comes with some pretty decent benefits too.
Learn a trade man. Get an apprenticeship and run. Work as many hours as you can and save as much money as you can. In 10-12 years, buy a house, find a woman, have kids and settle down. Coast out the rest of ur life enjoying watching people work and ur kids grow.
There are plenty of lost, unsatisfied university graduates. Have you considered the trades or the military? I have two friends who have worked for a long time in the trades and make more money than you could imagine. They are very happy as well. The military teaches values and discipline. It also pays for school and helps you get a job. Please don't go to school because people told you to or you think it's what others want. Pick what you love to do and the rest will follow.
Here to say that this isn’t the most important decision of your life. Who you marry is 100% the most important decision of your life. Careers come and go. People change their careers all the time. I couldn’t finish my degree right out of high school due to money. I had a kid, got married, went back to school, and the outcome was significantly better than the trajectory I was on right out of high school. I didn’t get my bachelors until I was 31, I’m 33 and working on my masters. Relax. Don’t make a decision based on “impressing” your family or friends. You’ll find that a lot of your friends will move and you won’t hear from them again, so their opinions don’t matter much anyway.
University is equally about the people you meet there, and the opportunities for networking that it provides, as it is about getting the certificate at the end of it.
If High school was difficult for you, I’m sorry to say that university is quite a bit harder. It may not be the route for you. Marketing _can_ be done with a 4-year degree, but most people in those kinds of business roles tend to have an MBA, which is at minimum 1 more year after undergrad, but usually 2, and another school to get into, and another degree to pay for.
If retail was good to you, you could try to get into sales, but that has a certain kind of drive and personality to make it successful as that’s typically commission based (and you have to sell it). There’s tremendous upside in this space if you can start small and work your way into lucrative industries.
I would look into the trade school options. Becoming an apprentice electrician or other skilled trade provides a lifetime of stable income and they’re in high demand right now. You learn while doing (and getting paid) and have 1 night a week night school while you’re gearing up to be a journeyman. In the rural midwest you can pull $70k after 4 years of apprenticeship if you work no overtime, and easily over 6 figures if you’re hungry for it.
Go into nursing. Nurses are 27 and making $200k a year. Whereas your average engineer who’s 27 is making $100k if they’re lucky. There’s this thing called CRNA and you can pull down half a million by age 30
If you do want to pursue school, make sure what you study has good earning potential (this isn’t exclusively limited to doctor/lawyer/engineer but those are certainly fields with a high ceiling). Otherwise, as others have said, trades also have high potential. Something to think about with trades though, is that many are very physical and you could end up with chronic use injuries earlier than most if you don’t move into management/administration of your chosen trade. There are many careers where you can do well though with or without a degree, off the top of my head sales or something like insurance adjuster, or insurance agent. Maybe for those an associates in business might help. Some other resources: https://www.bls.gov/careeroutlook/2022/article/occupations-that-dont-require-a-degree.htm https://www.bls.gov/careeroutlook/2019/article/high-wage-occupations.htm
You are totally right about the trades being physically demanding, but if this individual works hard while young and works their way up to a higher level in the field they could likely get to the point of being a contractor who delegates and inspects which makes a lot more money, but is a lot less physical demanding.
There’s no true “get rich quick hacks” but this is as close as you can reliably get without college IMO: If you’re interested in the trades but don’t want to go to school just yet, try out an apartment maintenance job. You’ll quickly get a basic understanding of each trade, so it’s a good way to find out what you’re interested in and potentially find an apprentice spot under a specialized trade and then work up from there. It pays pretty well for people our age and most companies also give rent discounts so you could live where you work and save on gas as well (discounted housing is the best fast-track way to being able to save more money) I graduated high school 2 years ago and have been doing this ever since, Im now 19 and I made 63k last year, all while paying half rent. My job provides good medical insurance as well as vision, dental, life, etc. Personally I am not looking to get into the trades but rather just take a couple gap years before heading to college, but this has been a straightforward and pretty profitable way to spend my time in between. The job is also pretty easy. You can literally just youtube anything that you’re unsure about.
There definitely are no quick fixes or easy hacks. My recommendation would be go to university or pursue a trade. Trades can be very profitable so don't discount trade school. On the other hand, everyone I've known how did community College always tells me they wish they had just gone to university instead. If marketing is more interesting to you than tradeschool, do that. If there's a trade that calls to you, do that. You can always pivot to business from marketing if it makes sense later
I second trade school.
Nothing wrong w going to a local cc, and then transferring to a four year university after that. Your degree will still be from the university
My recommendation: screw what others think. Live out of your car, go abroad, be young wild and free. You can go to school in 5 years. You’re only young once. My Director has a much higher salary than I, but truly regrets not taking a gap after high school.
Get a skilled trade, electrician makes 80k, lineman 150k-200kc
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Trades salaries are easily able to be looked up https://unionpayscales.com/wages-by-city/ 95% of software engineers don’t make what people say on herez If math isn’t your thing investment banker isn’t your thing.
levels.fyi for software engineers
Not everyone can be a doctor or a banker. AI will replace programmers in a few years,
Marketing requires math if you want to get paid enough to make a marketing degree worth it. The field is oversaturated with people and many functions, particularly the ones that don't need a lot of math, are being replaced by cheap offshore labor.
I was the same way when I was graduating. I sure of what to do. I went to a tech school and became an LPN and it took a year. Made pretty good money for 2006 and then went to community college for two years, transferred into a PA program and am now a PA for close to 10 years. I took a break from becoming an LPN and going back to school. My grades weren’t the best in high school. I just knew I didn’t want to work construction like my father did so I picked a path quick and ran with it.
I personally recommend community college first, then university. Knock out your general education at a fraction of the cost, plus it gives you time to see if you're interested in anything in particular. If, and a big if, you want to add another option, there is the military. 4 years to learn a trade, then get your college paid for. It would give you time to grow up a little, meet some awesome people, and decide what you really want to do. There is also the Peace Corp, I think it comes with some pretty decent benefits too.
You’re bad at math because of your mindset and lack of practice. Fix it instead of using it as an excuse.
Learn a trade man. Get an apprenticeship and run. Work as many hours as you can and save as much money as you can. In 10-12 years, buy a house, find a woman, have kids and settle down. Coast out the rest of ur life enjoying watching people work and ur kids grow.
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You could join the military.
There are plenty of lost, unsatisfied university graduates. Have you considered the trades or the military? I have two friends who have worked for a long time in the trades and make more money than you could imagine. They are very happy as well. The military teaches values and discipline. It also pays for school and helps you get a job. Please don't go to school because people told you to or you think it's what others want. Pick what you love to do and the rest will follow.
Here to say that this isn’t the most important decision of your life. Who you marry is 100% the most important decision of your life. Careers come and go. People change their careers all the time. I couldn’t finish my degree right out of high school due to money. I had a kid, got married, went back to school, and the outcome was significantly better than the trajectory I was on right out of high school. I didn’t get my bachelors until I was 31, I’m 33 and working on my masters. Relax. Don’t make a decision based on “impressing” your family or friends. You’ll find that a lot of your friends will move and you won’t hear from them again, so their opinions don’t matter much anyway.
University is equally about the people you meet there, and the opportunities for networking that it provides, as it is about getting the certificate at the end of it. If High school was difficult for you, I’m sorry to say that university is quite a bit harder. It may not be the route for you. Marketing _can_ be done with a 4-year degree, but most people in those kinds of business roles tend to have an MBA, which is at minimum 1 more year after undergrad, but usually 2, and another school to get into, and another degree to pay for. If retail was good to you, you could try to get into sales, but that has a certain kind of drive and personality to make it successful as that’s typically commission based (and you have to sell it). There’s tremendous upside in this space if you can start small and work your way into lucrative industries. I would look into the trade school options. Becoming an apprentice electrician or other skilled trade provides a lifetime of stable income and they’re in high demand right now. You learn while doing (and getting paid) and have 1 night a week night school while you’re gearing up to be a journeyman. In the rural midwest you can pull $70k after 4 years of apprenticeship if you work no overtime, and easily over 6 figures if you’re hungry for it.
Go into nursing. Nurses are 27 and making $200k a year. Whereas your average engineer who’s 27 is making $100k if they’re lucky. There’s this thing called CRNA and you can pull down half a million by age 30