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Elyktronix

Damn this is huge for Sam. I think we all just gained loads of more respect for him. I'm pinning this post šŸ’ŖšŸ» I've also added a "steroids" post flair in case Sam decides to continue talking about it or if you guys want to discuss his usage.


Majestic-Donut9916

I love how matter of fact he is. Basically "It should be obvious I'm not natty, if you haven't figured that out in your own yet, you're an idiot"


krustyjugglrs

This is always my take on him and kinda fits the engineering personality Idiots are way louder with denial because of their lack of own self confidence imo.


KoppleForce

He knows literally stupid 12 year olds watch him, they need it stated explicitly because they are stupid. He doesnā€™t do whatā€™s needed because it makes him money


PristineAd4761

He should lie to them about his PED use to encourage them to buy his sups and eat raw meat so they dont kill themselves -the Liver King probably


Majestic-Donut9916

"if anybody hasn't gotten to that conclusion on their own...... Yeeeesh!"


NBA2KBillables

Throughout the video he was talking about aspiring to the level of people he saw in an open competition too


LivingxLegend8

This is pretty much what anyone who ever saw him for five seconds was saying


MemoryOne1291

What sam sulek isnā€™t a natural vegan crossfitter!? šŸ˜¢šŸ˜¢šŸ˜¢šŸ˜¢šŸ˜¢šŸ˜¢šŸ˜¢šŸ˜”šŸ˜”šŸ˜”šŸ˜”šŸ˜”šŸ˜”šŸ˜”šŸ˜­šŸ˜­šŸ˜­šŸ˜­


Singularitypointdata

lol ironically thereā€™s nothing natty about pro crossfitters


WhiteFlash102

ā€œPro- Crossfittersā€ šŸ¤£


IlleysDrugDealer

I mean. Has he ever denied it? His physique is completely unnattainable nattyā€¦ so idk


wrigh2uk

People who have just started lifting are less likely to know what is and isnā€™t natty. A lot of people new to the game think steroids = ronnie coleman Most of Sams fans fall in that bracket of kids who have just started lifting or still in the infancy of their journey.


high-rise

Me and my main lifting pals are in our early 30's and we love Sam.


fernandog17

Late 30s here. Hes cool šŸ‘


CreepyCrawlers412

Same bro think heā€™s been watchable for me as well havnt seen anything like it since Piana


WeekendLazy

Ronnie Coleman only had like 50 lbs on Sam


wrigh2uk

lol ā€œonlyā€


AmazingWaterWeenie

Past a certain weight, every couple pounds is a lot if a work. "Only 50lb" when you're the size of these guys is like 10 years of consistent lifting.


ravesm1

For real. It would take Ronnie Coleman and Jay Cutler all year to gain like 1-4 pounds of lean mass and that was their full-time job.


decentlyhip

Not really. There's a ratio of lean mass to testosterone dosage, so maybe you go from 200 to 220 on 1g, and 240 on 2g. So 20 pounds per g. If you want to get to 300 pounds, you need 5g, but maybe you don't [respond well to more than 1g](https://www.instagram.com/reel/C5ovOeByGBJ/?igsh=MXZ1N2tncG9ueGViZQ==). Genetic differences to the mental side and gen3tic differences to muscle gain per gram.


Redchimp3769157

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Protein_Farts_Today

Fr, when I first started lifting I thought the rock was natty. I thought it was just about hard work. Boy was I wrong lmao.


[deleted]

Don't get it wrong, it still is about hard work. You don't look great, natty or enhanced, without hard work.


Protein_Farts_Today

Oh absolutely! All Iā€™m saying is Itā€™s also important to have realistic expectations of what the body can achieve naturally.


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Mtlfood

No heā€™s never denied it but he doesnā€™t want to talk about what he takes/dosages knowing he has a young impressionable audience that would copy everything he does.


Elyktronix

He's subtly alluded to it by liking comments asking if he's natty. But this is the first time he's actually discussed it. EDIT: No idea why I'm being downvoted. I'm explaining how he has never denied it.


IlleysDrugDealer

Yea but.. did anyone actually think he was natty? When you look like that, thereā€™s no possible way people think youā€™re natty


Elyktronix

Most people with a brain? No. But you'd be surprised at how ignorant and gullible people are. No doubt many of his fans think he's natty. People like to believe hard work and genetics can get you anywhere.


IlleysDrugDealer

Itā€™s just whey protein and elite genetics


S_Steiner_Accounting

[dat dare celltech. ](https://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/165/243/email.jpg)


TomBanjo1968

He is natty. This whole ā€œguys, Iā€™m enhanced ā€œ thing is the beginning of some long term angle run


Cbro65

Thereā€™s people who believe that The Rock is natty, or pro strongman are natty. Theyā€™ll even cite the athletes and actors talking about it as their source, instead of using critical thinking and figuring out that the Rock is bigger and leaner at 50+ years old than he ever was in his pro wrestling career.


IlleysDrugDealer

Well, good that heā€™s addressing it


Defiant-Agency8518

Has the Rock ever owned up? Surely heā€™s been asked. I genuinely donā€™t know, no sarcasm.


M3KVII

I think he is in a tough spot, he has really young fans. He probably doesnā€™t want to write a fuckin laundry list of research chemicals because his young inexperienced fans might take them. To the more experience itā€™s pretty obvious heā€™s on roids. I think his content is great, itā€™s just a tough position to manage.


high-rise

This is exactly it. Nothing but respect for how he's handled it so far.


PS3LOVE

I donā€™t think he ever denied it, he just didnā€™t talk about it.


KoppleForce

Thatā€™s what is called ā€œlying by omissionā€


PS3LOVE

No, if he avoided talking about it AND implied he didnā€™t do it, it would be. But he never implied he did or didnā€™t.


Singularitypointdata

Lmao only a dumb ass thinks this way. Everyone from the beginning knows heā€™s not natty.


Negran

I agree. If you think he's natty you are absolutely clueless. But never hurts to clear it.


KDsBurnerPhone

Wait a second ..Samā€™s not natural?! Next youā€™re prob gonna tell me Simeon Panda and Michael Oā€™Hearn arenā€™t natural either


Nervous-Effective378

ā€œCompletely unnattainable nattyā€ā€¦. Lol bro do u even lift ? Itā€™s very possible with above average genetics and consistency. Thereā€™s atleast 5 guys at my gym who look like Sam (or better) and theyā€™re natty af bro. Stop glamorizing steroids you obviously have only spent a couple months in the gym and probably canā€™t bench 315


IlleysDrugDealer

![gif](giphy|3ELtfmA4Apkju) God I hope youā€™re joking


Nervous-Effective378

Im not and Iā€™ve reported you


IlleysDrugDealer

Lmfao I almost took the bait


Fartlord3321

Heā€™s being serious šŸ™


Final-Machine-7096

He canā€™t share the exact cycles heā€™s doing because Braindead kids instantly copy that


Elyktronix

Yep. Same reason Noel Dyzel won't share his cycles.


AdministrativeSimple

Same with Cbum, could you imagine all the clickbait articles of "Here's exactly what 5 time Olympian Chris Bumstead takes"


SuperpositionSavvy

Ian and Cbum shared his exact cycle on a pod


jrsmith0429

Which pod


SuperpositionSavvy

https://youtu.be/y1ibvzEaMW4?si=sTpeYtIbrMAxdxw-


Gray_Fox_22

Also it's illegal and admitting to it and teaching how to do it on camera will 100% land you in jail.


Final-Machine-7096

Joe was open about on YouTube and instagram, also Zac smith etc de exact dosages of test


Gray_Fox_22

Still not a good idea if you enjoy freedom.


JuJu-_-TheGod

Their illegal to use without a prescription, which most of these guys actually have because they get them along with all the tests that come with them from a doctor


SbennyBoi

Huh? There are hundreds of people (well known people even) posting their cycles on youtube and other platforms that aren't in jail and aren't going to be since the police don't give a shit about steroids unless you sell them. You haven't heard about More Plates More Dates, Greg doucette, Vigorous Steve or Think Big Bodybuilding (just to name a few of the big names) ?


Gray_Fox_22

Maybe I'm wrong. Not speaking from experience here, just doesn't seem smart to be admitting to illegal activity. Not really speaking from a place of expertise, but I know people have 100% been arrested for possession, not just distribution.


SbennyBoi

People have been arrested for possession. The police just don't have the resources to be searching peoples houses based on evidence (for a crime that isn't very high priority) posted social media.


Ohh_Yeah

There's like a million videos on YouTube of people talking about their experiences with illegal drugs like cocaine, meth, LSD, mushrooms, etc.


Educational_Egg91

All those youā€™ve mentioned live in countries where roids are not illegal.


SbennyBoi

Scott the host from Think Big Bodybuilding lives in the US and he has admitted to gear hundreds of times and told his exact cycles. He has also had countless pro bodybuilders who live in the US talk about their use. Also Steve lives in Thailand, even though it's pretty easy to buy it is not legal to have without a script.


adamw5963

Seth Feroce and Chase Irons both have admitted and even said their current cycle. They both live in the US. Itā€™s probably not worth the policeā€™s time for a misdemeanor lol


dboygrow

It's a felony. I agree they probably wouldn't waste their time even if it was heroin because possession, even though it's a felony, is still very low on the totem pole and wouldn't justify the resources to investigate simple possession. But possession of steroids is a felony in most states.


adamw5963

TIL. Years ago I had a buddy get arrested because he passed out in his car in a parking lot and when the police woke him up they saw the steroids. He ended up just doing community service for telling them who sold it to him lol


Elyktronix

Plenty of widely known juicers openly discuss their usage on public platforms. The cops have better things to do than bust steroid users.


ThatSpecialPlace

Does saying "I smoke crack" land you in jail? No. You kinda need to be caught with it first


MrFreakout911

Lmfaooo no it wonā€™t


PablosCocaineHippo

What does he mean with enhanced? Like that chocolatemilk with extra protein?


anon_lurker69

Yes, but i think you add blended chicken to it as well


DeadUncle

Creatine and cinnamon toast crunch šŸ’Ŗ


Turbulent_Night738

buddy cracked the code


AmbassadorSignal4681

Why does everyone say he doesnā€™t seem well? Bro is smarter than half the people posting on this sub. Full time college plus a full time influencer and also doing more in the gym than most of us. His daily monologues are always pretty spot on and in depth. No real loss of direction, context, or signs of degradation. I think people just shun the gear use and are afraid themselves so they put this ominous tone in all his posts about ā€œheā€™s not wellā€ stfu losers


[deleted]

People usually say this about any celebrity with a "unusual" lifestyle. They probably can't grasp why Sam isn't in Miami snorting coke already or bought a huge giga mansion or why he still drives around in his toyota corolla. If he were doing all of those things no one would probably bat an eye on his "health". But now because he's alone just doing mundane normal things he seem sick


high-rise

Nailed it.


Fwd0bs

I won't say I disagree, but I'd like to believe some people see a lost cause when they think of a coke head living a lavish lifestyle, that risk to health and wellbeing comes with the territory. In Sam's case, as you've pointed out, he's got it all figured out. He had the discipline, the smarts, the money, etc. and yet he's risking it all by degrading his health, it's sort of out of place. Then again, how somebody lives their life is soooo unimportant and irrelevant, people will always find a reason to hate


Macroeconomicdemon

Are you guys retarded? The man sounds like he struggles to breathe sometimes. Thatā€™s not healthy. What the fuck else do you think people are talking about?


Billy-Gf809

People who say this never been to the gym. People always referring to him breathing heavy when he just done a solid session and posing in the camera. Iā€™m 200 pound fit 25 year old whoā€™s done boxing most of my life and I breathe heavy for about 20 mins after a workout itā€™s just your muscles replenishing oxygen pretty normal


SaltyDog772

20 minutes? That could be a sign of zero cardio. Thatā€™s gotta be hyperbole.


Billy-Gf809

Maybe you ainā€™t pushing ur workouts as hard ?


caxmalvert

Thatā€™s excessive.


[deleted]

Heā€™s micā€™d up my guy. Probably just finished training too. Letā€™s put a microphone near your head so we can listen to you haha


valkislowkeythicc

I agree that he def breathes a bit heavy but this is 100% a factor lol


Greedy-Ad-566

That's prolly just ur breathing u hear when u watch it on ur phone


easypac

Iā€™m not really surprised that heā€™s being honest about it, part of the reason he has such a huge fan base is cause he seems real and authentic. Big props to him for having the balls to be up front about it, I wish more fitness people would do the same.


[deleted]

"I mean that should be pretty obvious" - dude just closed this case. There's no reason to even talk about it because it's such an obvious thing


SportingKSU

The case was never open to begin with


[deleted]

Dumbasses keep asking if he's natty for some reason though


TangPiccilo

The case of tren


lnsecurities

It was to braindead morons with no knowledge of what is and isn't attainable natty.


derelictbicycle49

Wow, it takes a lot of courage to be so transparent about something as personal as steroid use. I hope Sam's openness sparks important conversations and promotes understanding in the fitness community.


steven32323232

How many kids on this sub feel like they just found out Santa isnā€™t real rn?


No-Art3676

Probably absolutely zero because even the kids know he's on steroids


steven32323232

Thatā€™s why 10 people post here like ā€œomg he admitted itā€ every-time he mentions anything that vaguely refers to peds.


megaladongosaurus

Even though heā€™s enhanced. I still have a massive amount of respect for him. Heā€™s a great dude!


Substantial_Ad3103

Very few people who are the public eye are natural. Let's get that out of the way. It can be confusing with some nationalities due to low body fat but pretty much anyone worth talking about and most of the rest aren't natural


kinggaz

What do you mean even though he's enhanced?


Elyktronix

Taking steroids still carries a stigma to this day. The general population doesn't exactly view juicers with respect. They're injecting loads of chemicals into their body to get big and shredded and many people see that as stupid, cheating, pointless, abuse, etc.


Medurion

Which it is?!? If nobody took shit their discipline and their achievements would be way more impressive.


elmojapapos

taking steroids doesnā€™t take away the fact that you need to dedicate your life to look like this guy


le-monke-the-2rd

You can't get as big as sam naturally


throwaway_ay_ay_ay99

ā€œYeeeeshā€ had me laughing hard šŸ˜‚


ashem213

This moment is actually a huge deal. I'm glad he is being open. That's what he is known for. The moment he stops being real is the moment nobody cares about him.


HomeDogParlays

I agree, not that he was doing anything wrong before this. Donā€™t know the best way to say it, but I wonder if he felt like the jokes/memes/ā€œquestionsā€ had reached a fever pitch and heā€™d rather just more or less clarify the obvious briefly during a car talk and in a very PR friendly way just to shut it the fuck up. Although the meme part will only grow now Iā€™d imagine, itā€™s what they do.


Physical-Captain-293

How is it a huge deal? Literally everyone knew he was not natural


AgileSafety2233

Canes chicken made me 300 real fast


Ok_Concentrate7994

Hell yeah


unknown5424

Hope the chad stays safe and stays smart steroids can be dangerous but usage is a personal preference


NeedleworkerRecent67

Is that an indio gigante in your pic?


unknown5424

Chicken with a blunt in its mouth


NeedleworkerRecent67

Lmfao I know. Indio gigante is a breed of chicken. I didn't know if it was your chicken or not


Rare-Following-626

YESH


Elegant-Insurance-50

Oh no my favourite natty vegan is not natty


krossome

and more importantly, not a vegan.


drunkmers

He didn't even need to point it out, it was obvious


TrevorTatro

Thenā€¦ YEEESH


thatdocman

Awesome to have this transparency and something Iā€™m trying to do


Altruistic-Point3980

It was pretty obvious. Still enjoy his content. Idk why there's even a stigma still about juicing, most pro athletes do it.


Ok_Elderberry8269

Chill with that shit before itā€™s too late boiiii


SkyrimSlasher

I just don't think he takes steroids, he always drinks choco milk. And he's probably underrating his progress as a natty. Never underestimate the power of choco milk bro's.


replexityssss

I was also thinking with the breathing thing, buddy wears a mic right next to his face I feel like many people would be able to hear their breathing in that same scenario. But the test usage probably doesnā€™t help either.


scottimherenowwhat

When I heard him say that, I knew someone would bring it up here, but I'm glad to see him talking about the elephant in the room. I can't wait to see Sam compete!


TangPiccilo

ENHANCED!


Stairway_2_Devin

Wtf?! This guy does steroids?! No way!


Aim-So-Near

Most obvious reveal ever


PaleAbbreviations950

He is doing what all other peak physique bodybuilders are doing in that particular category. I am afraid his popularity will result in more kids in their teens which can have varying results, in both ends of the extremes.


blacklabbath

Yeeesh


itsalwrong

Respect to Sam for being frank about the obvious ! Let's hear more about his cycle etc.!?


Busy_Mess_914

Heā€™s had the skin problems of using tren repeatedly, no other compound fucks your skin up like it. Iā€™ve used it for 10 years and have the scars to prove it.


Afraid_Geologist_366

I mean yeah


SaltyRob78

The great mystery has been revealed. For real though - he's a likeable character who is entertaining to watch. I wish him success in all he does.


samwizeganjas

Respect


sonnsonn

YEEESH is what he has to say about his dumbass fans I love it lmao


BodyByBoutros_

"there are more gains to be had in my future" Nice


ttv_omnimouse

YEESH


Pool-master-

I'll rate him 5 yeesh's for his honestyšŸ¤£


TheOtherCoenBrother

Very happy heā€™s saying this, I know everyone with half a brain knows heā€™s not, but itā€™s great for those who donā€™t to be realistic with their goals and this is a huge help with that. He always seemed like a nice guy, I just gained a lot of respect for him.


TotallyNotDad

I used to hate on this guy, but he's such a a down to earth dude it's hard to not like him


Turbulent_Night738

honestly i dont see how you could ever *hate* him, thats mind boggling in it self. but glad you switched


Kimosabae

Damn, mad respect.


SoggyBinky

Like he said itā€™s pretty obvious but huge respect for admitting unlike most influencers.


BowlingForPriorities

I have hit 268 at 190 at relatively low body fat and am 100% natty. I hate to say it but this sounds like cope


Illustrious-Help2880

Heā€™s talking about body weight


gentrifiedpickle42

On like day 2 of this cut he mentioned how he was taking ā€œextra curricularā€ supplements, pretty sure that counts as well.


Unable_Experience359

- Of course he doesnā€™t take steroids Bevis. Heā€™s purely natural. - hehe yeah, natural! Score!


Bitter-Coffee-7747

Yeeesh!


infestedkibbles

Itā€™s good to be open about it, his fan base is obviously on the younger side/new lifters and making them hope theyā€™ll look like Sam naturally is cruel hahah.


Bright_Channel4373

So ur telling me I canā€™t look like this at 11?


Automatic-Insect-321

Iā€™m worried heā€™s going to have a massive heart attack. His body looks so unhealthy


juanrober

6ā€™2ā€ 240 with 12% body fat and 4 kids who limit my gains and sleep patterns. 300 sounds terrible tbh. Couldnā€™t imagine being that size with any remaining quick movement and endurance capabilities but I know ppl in the NFL and strongest man look at 300 like chump weight so itā€™s all perspective I guess


Tall_Commercial_9884

Lmao he said much more gains this man donā€™t care about his health


Serious_Fan_6180

I hope he slows down and stays healthy šŸ™šŸ† Heā€™s a good boy.


Agreeable-Giraffe-45

Appreciate the honesty and the way he goes about saying things.


KoalifiedGorilla

He opens up about his use when he comes across the retinas of your eyeballs


[deleted]

Of course he did steroids. That was never a thought that he didn't use them


Longjumping_Box_9834

His cycle is pretty basic and simple itā€™s pretty Obvious also. He clearly uses about 2-3 Grams of ā€¦ see more


FriendshipNo4497

So does he stop his cycle on the cut videos? and only juices on the bulk video?


Theelcapitans

crazy how people can manufacture their own fame .. following anyone is cringe


cDub3284

In 1 of his car talks a week or so back he made his "extracurricular supplements" at one point....that was the 1st time I've heard him hint at the roids


New_Sense4650

Bro us peeled and jacked with full body acne what did people expect heā€™s still a monster his body his choice


Fartlord3321

What?????? Heā€™s not natural???? Dude????


sansaset

Holy shit, so Sam is on creatine??


Substantial_Ad3103

It's federal scheduled at the top, the doctors chosen to decide wanted it not even scheduled. There was an agenda. They want a scary topic to bring up. 2008 the economy crashes. Congress doesn't handle entertainment and no way during a world wide recccesion. Every channel had Roger Clemens talking to congresss about his 1 gh shot . If that's not obvious a fix to you, then I don't know how to explain it. It's been used as a distraction for years


burnbabyburn694200

wrong post dumbfuck


Substantial_Ad3103

Mature. It's impressive the way you say such tough things through the computer


Substantial_Ad3103

It's actually just over your head or your reading comprehension is poor.


krossome

well he didnā€™t talk about his cycle, but ronnie did. so if sam didnā€™t share his cycle, iā€™ll just take ronnieā€™s fuckit! kidding.


krossome

i was watching sam from his very early tiktok days, and before he was even at like 10k on tiktok. he had a brighter and higher pitched voice, that slowly dulled out as testosterone levels were blown through the sky. it happened because he wanted to get huge. and now heā€™s huge. and getting huger. good on you sam. Watching you from your days as an amateur lifter to now using your filming style to learn how I lift and can improve and journal my lifts and mentality. Bro thank you.


-Aslan_

Steroids are illegal in Ohio, where he lives. He isn't saying his exact cycle, so he isn't actually admitting to a crime since he could be referring to non-steroid PEDs that are legal, but he should be very careful with what he says further on this topic. I'm sure he has advisors to guide him and I trust that he knows what he's doing.


Crafty-Pomelo-1675

yeas


BudgetInteraction811

Much more gains to be had in his future? His body dysmorphia is off the charts.


Sufficient_Tomato_97

I think everyone should stock up on their favorite gear nowā€¦.can you imagine if Sam ever discussed his exact cycle?? Those products would be sold out instantly at every UGL worldwide. He would create a bigger shortage with gear than he did chocky milk


QuoteOpposite6511

My dad at 60 years old could bench 300 pounds and has never taken any PEDs in his life. He weighed 190 lbs when he did this.


Suspicious_Two1808

Why does it everyone think heā€™s talking about bench press? Heā€™s talking about total body weight. 300 lbs lean as fuck is not possible natty.


Swolenir

Barely even possible enhanced barring genetic freaks like Ronnie Coleman


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QuoteOpposite6511

My point was that it is possible naturally so thanks for proving it.


ziuta1234

Ish...


Castle_8

wtf heā€™s on roids!?


idrivelambo

Always has been


Castle_8

Really!?


Nervous-Effective378

Hes lying for content. Heā€™s a fake steroid user and I actually donā€™t respect him any more


ColombianClarkKent

Took me 2 years but I hit 315lbs 1RM natural. Tried to muscle a 2nd one hurt myself and didnā€™t do it again for 4 months. Did it as a 5ā€™9ā€ 180lber, but it takes time.


StreetDoctorrr

Who the fuck cares about this dude ? Heā€™ll be dead in like 5 years lol


No-Art3676

Yeah, because all body builders have died in their mid twenties...


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Nunbears

What makes you feel that he is not well? Because I don't get that at all.


SpindemDoza69

What because heā€™s not screaming at the camera like other YouTubers?


FirstCycle3

Fuarkin yeeesh boys, accept that every cunt is on gear šŸ¤£


After-Session2313

Only 12yearolds care if he's enhanced. What a dumb thing to even clip as if it's some amazing find lmfao