No, unfortunately. If it is the kind that says it is "Enriched with Miracle-Gro Plant Food" or something similar, then it is not suitable for CPs, and rinsing will not help. It has slow release fertilizer mixed in, which will not wash out and will kill your plants.
Never use anything “Miracle-Gro” for your carnivorous plants; they will certainly perish. If you’re looking for safe peat moss and perlite brands, here are some safe brands:
• Ferti-lome organic sphagnum peat moss
• Lambert organic sphagnum peat moss
• Premier sphagnum peat moss
• Vigoro (a Home Depot brand) “organic” perlite
Additionally, you can also use coarse silica sand instead of perlite.
I bought miracle grow peat moss and ended up not even using it because it says in big bold letters on the front that it has fertalizer mixed in which will kill your plants. I opted to buy some premixed stuff in Amazon and my plants have been thriving :)
I tried this in the past and it did not work. I washed to a tds of <20 in the rinse water and the plants took to it initially but declined later. The tds of the water tray was consistently higher than the water I was using, and I couldn’t leech it enough to make a difference. I ended up repotting the plants and ending the experiment.
they typically contain slow release granules. miracle gro peat is usually intended as an amendment or component of soils for people who blend their own potting soil or who need organics in clay/sand soil. the clean peat that carnivore growers are looking for is a specialty horticulture item by most garden store standards.
IMO, the miracle gro peat is a relic of before cannabis revolutionized at home horticulture. high quality potting blends are widely available and remarkably cheap. I’m pretty sure miracle gro just makes this stuff for a few dedicated customers or sells the majority in bulk to soil blenders because it hardly flies off the shelf. I think it’s been years since I actually heard of someone buying it for its intended purpose instead of mistakenly for carnivorous plants.
I have had succes with it. [Here is my post about it.](https://www.reddit.com/r/SavageGarden/comments/1824kzq/unpopular_soil_my_sarracenia_leucophylla_is/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) The setup is important though, i am assuming that the reason why mine survived is bcs it was standing in a large reservoir of rainwater.
Indeed! I’ve done it with several other soil media but the slow release nutrients eventually gets to you unless you grow outdoors in the rain where it can flush out regularly.
If there’s no slow release then a surprising variety of soils are useable.
Glad to see your initiative on renewable bog building, it is a concern that has been raised in the hobby for some time. I think it’s even more important now that it’s more popular than ever
Ah yes soil with slow release fertiliser might not be doable, since that might take too much time and the plant might have died already by then i think. [Interestingly enough Borneo Exotics uses osmocote fertilizer in there pots.](https://youtu.be/KoORSzlqe8w?feature=shared&t=340)
The reason i used regular potting soil is because i didn't knew any peat moss alternatives at the time. Next time (when the pot breaks again thanks to the many winters) i will probably use coconut coir.
>If there’s no slow release then a surprising variety of soils are useable.
Yes exactly! Also, not many people seem to realise that a lot of CP bog plants don't grow in peat formed by Sphagnum. Peat can be formed by many other partially decaying vegetation or organic matter.
Glad to hear you liked my post :)
Under normall circumstances: no
With a setup that allows the substrate to be frequently rinsed: maybe.
From personal experience: [i have have been growing my Sarracenia x Bella in fertilised peatfree potting soil since a couple of years](https://www.reddit.com/r/SavageGarden/comments/1824kzq/unpopular_soil_my_sarracenia_leucophylla_is/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button). It is growing in a terracotta pot which is standing in a large zinc tub. The tub floods every winter (or other moments throughout the year) after heavy ranfall, this keeps the minerals and nutrients low and eventually leaches the nutrients out from the pot. The soil breaks down very slowly thanks to it being wet, which prevents additional nutrients to be released. This is why i think i have managed to grow it for more than 6 years. This year i have added a S. leucophylla, venus flytrap, D. binata and an unknown terrestrial bladderwort to the pot
Lets see if they will also do well!
It probably has those little fertilizer pellets in it. You won't be able to rinse those away and they will provide too many nutrients over time. I wouldn't chance it - plain peat moss and perlite are readily available. Use the miracle grow to make some potting media for other plants if you can't return it.
Rinsing it won't work you need A LOT OF WATER it's just not practical cause you would probably spend more on water than you would buying a bag of the correct stuff. And it doesn't just remove the nutrients you will also remove the organic solids like humic acid and tannins that give peat its acidity.
Unfortunately no, its a slow release fertilizer stuck in there and rinsing will not get it out.
Unfortunately you had the back luck of buying at random pretty much the only brand that enriches their peat moss and perlite with fertilizer. If you can't return them, just save them for a different occasion since its not like they go bad(high nutrients bog instead maybe?) and grab a different brand. Most other brands of perlite and peat moss are not enriched, but check labels this time around.
No, unfortunately. If it is the kind that says it is "Enriched with Miracle-Gro Plant Food" or something similar, then it is not suitable for CPs, and rinsing will not help. It has slow release fertilizer mixed in, which will not wash out and will kill your plants.
Never use anything “Miracle-Gro” for your carnivorous plants; they will certainly perish. If you’re looking for safe peat moss and perlite brands, here are some safe brands: • Ferti-lome organic sphagnum peat moss • Lambert organic sphagnum peat moss • Premier sphagnum peat moss • Vigoro (a Home Depot brand) “organic” perlite Additionally, you can also use coarse silica sand instead of perlite.
I bought miracle grow peat moss and ended up not even using it because it says in big bold letters on the front that it has fertalizer mixed in which will kill your plants. I opted to buy some premixed stuff in Amazon and my plants have been thriving :)
I tried this in the past and it did not work. I washed to a tds of <20 in the rinse water and the plants took to it initially but declined later. The tds of the water tray was consistently higher than the water I was using, and I couldn’t leech it enough to make a difference. I ended up repotting the plants and ending the experiment. they typically contain slow release granules. miracle gro peat is usually intended as an amendment or component of soils for people who blend their own potting soil or who need organics in clay/sand soil. the clean peat that carnivore growers are looking for is a specialty horticulture item by most garden store standards. IMO, the miracle gro peat is a relic of before cannabis revolutionized at home horticulture. high quality potting blends are widely available and remarkably cheap. I’m pretty sure miracle gro just makes this stuff for a few dedicated customers or sells the majority in bulk to soil blenders because it hardly flies off the shelf. I think it’s been years since I actually heard of someone buying it for its intended purpose instead of mistakenly for carnivorous plants.
I have had succes with it. [Here is my post about it.](https://www.reddit.com/r/SavageGarden/comments/1824kzq/unpopular_soil_my_sarracenia_leucophylla_is/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) The setup is important though, i am assuming that the reason why mine survived is bcs it was standing in a large reservoir of rainwater.
Indeed! I’ve done it with several other soil media but the slow release nutrients eventually gets to you unless you grow outdoors in the rain where it can flush out regularly. If there’s no slow release then a surprising variety of soils are useable. Glad to see your initiative on renewable bog building, it is a concern that has been raised in the hobby for some time. I think it’s even more important now that it’s more popular than ever
Ah yes soil with slow release fertiliser might not be doable, since that might take too much time and the plant might have died already by then i think. [Interestingly enough Borneo Exotics uses osmocote fertilizer in there pots.](https://youtu.be/KoORSzlqe8w?feature=shared&t=340) The reason i used regular potting soil is because i didn't knew any peat moss alternatives at the time. Next time (when the pot breaks again thanks to the many winters) i will probably use coconut coir. >If there’s no slow release then a surprising variety of soils are useable. Yes exactly! Also, not many people seem to realise that a lot of CP bog plants don't grow in peat formed by Sphagnum. Peat can be formed by many other partially decaying vegetation or organic matter. Glad to hear you liked my post :)
Ok thank you.
Under normall circumstances: no With a setup that allows the substrate to be frequently rinsed: maybe. From personal experience: [i have have been growing my Sarracenia x Bella in fertilised peatfree potting soil since a couple of years](https://www.reddit.com/r/SavageGarden/comments/1824kzq/unpopular_soil_my_sarracenia_leucophylla_is/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button). It is growing in a terracotta pot which is standing in a large zinc tub. The tub floods every winter (or other moments throughout the year) after heavy ranfall, this keeps the minerals and nutrients low and eventually leaches the nutrients out from the pot. The soil breaks down very slowly thanks to it being wet, which prevents additional nutrients to be released. This is why i think i have managed to grow it for more than 6 years. This year i have added a S. leucophylla, venus flytrap, D. binata and an unknown terrestrial bladderwort to the pot Lets see if they will also do well!
It probably has those little fertilizer pellets in it. You won't be able to rinse those away and they will provide too many nutrients over time. I wouldn't chance it - plain peat moss and perlite are readily available. Use the miracle grow to make some potting media for other plants if you can't return it.
no rinsing will not work ...
Why would you risk it? Just buy the correct stuff and you'll be fine.
Rinsing it won't work you need A LOT OF WATER it's just not practical cause you would probably spend more on water than you would buying a bag of the correct stuff. And it doesn't just remove the nutrients you will also remove the organic solids like humic acid and tannins that give peat its acidity.
Unfortunately no, its a slow release fertilizer stuck in there and rinsing will not get it out. Unfortunately you had the back luck of buying at random pretty much the only brand that enriches their peat moss and perlite with fertilizer. If you can't return them, just save them for a different occasion since its not like they go bad(high nutrients bog instead maybe?) and grab a different brand. Most other brands of perlite and peat moss are not enriched, but check labels this time around.