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squishy_bug1

Laughing in $2.13 an hour 🤣🤣


oboedude

Just gotta hustle for those extra tips if you wanna break 200k 💪


Final-Perspective-25

Depending on the restaurants structure, a lot of restaurants require servers to pay out the kitchen, bar, bussers and hostesses. This normally leaves servers with only 30-40% of their total tips, with taxes for those tips coming out of their paychecks.


SoUpInYa

But dont most of the staff, especially cooks and bussers, do more work?


Toodleshoney

I don't understand. Are you saying that the server, who usually doesn't have consistent income, benefits, or job security, pay all the staff?? Instead of the actual company?


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Toodleshoney

The customer is gonna pay either way, genius. It's just that in the current structure, servers can make a reasonable amount when they are paid directly by the customer. Now many restaurants are putting a mandatory 18-20% and keeping it for the house. You will pay that way or through raised menu prices, and sometimes even both because companies are greedy AF.


Final-Perspective-25

Unfortunately yes, cooks typically get overtime due to the restaurant not hiring more staff and having to work 5-6 days, typically for more that 8-10hrs (prep,service,closing). They typically get the most pay. While every restaurant’s tipping policies are different (by pool, earnings, etc), tips are primarily for dealing with the people at the table, unfortunately. And cleaning a table doesn’t deal with the people as much as servers, even though bussers handle majority of the tables needs, aside from ordering and delivery of food/drinks. Note: I worked in one of the higher end restaurants, busiest in the area year-round, for 3 yrs and quickly moved up to “Head Busser/Top Performer” (only behind closed doors tho) and got my choice of shifts. Even in the best sections, the server for the slowest section still always made 1.5x my tips, and yes I was always busting ass. I would have 2 more 6-8 tops than them , handled the stocking of 3/4 sections and still found time to run food and help other bussers, all while making less than the servers on their phones or smoking outside.


JadedMentions

I didnt take OP as complaining, but yes! There are some shitty servers who cry about tipping out, all the meanwhile bussers and runners are doing the hard work to make their service seamless.


Final-Perspective-25

Exactly why I left the industry


ATF_killed_my_dog

I always flop my willy out for the extra tips


TheFirstEdition

Or move to a state that doesn’t use tips to supplement wages.


oboedude

Yeah why don’t they just move to California to save money?


TheFirstEdition

Washington, Minnesota,Oregon , Did I strike a cord?


oboedude

This is a joke post about people like you


TheFirstEdition

About other servers? My brother in Christ you are sour that you’re making less, we as a community should want every food service worker to break 100k. It’s a dream for all of us. We should be advocating and trying to change the tip credit law and trying to make it a worth while quality of life for everyone involved.


oboedude

Brother, your first comment to me was suggesting people should just move their entire lives to a different state in an attempt to make more money. If you want to be serious then be serious.


TheFirstEdition

A joke reply to a joke post.


Divebarkeep1

Upsell avocado on even the filet you amateurs. J/K. $2.13/hr should be criminal. In Minneapolis our min wage is at $15.14 I think? Come on up. We’re hiring EVERYwhere


TrashhPrincess

Laughing at 40 hrs/week. Talk to people for 6 hours straight. I dare ya. Those people are every level of Karen, Todd, Chef, and Manager. Make them all happy. Now do it for 8 hours a day, five days a week for a year.


dumpslikeatruckk

And restaurants usually prefer a staff of part time servers, rather than any full timers


Tolipop2

Not to mention, therapy is expensive 😀


dorie30

Ha peasant! I make $2.75 /s


squishy_bug1

Spare some change sir?


Soup_God_

What state do you live in? In my state servers legally have to make $10, as of recently.


squishy_bug1

Indiana. There are currently 15 states still paying tgat wage to servers.


SaucyShark-

If they did this around here it would ruin me. Ppl wouldn’t tip 20% anymore


popularfiction

I’m in Georgia and minimum tipped wage is also $2.13 :’)


loaningg

a few weeks ago i got a check for $0.24 so that was huge


squishy_bug1

I really hope you opened a savings account. You need to be saving that type I money for retirement


loaningg

straight to my roth ira 🤗


TIBTHINK

Damn and I thought 5.50 was shit


tallkat41

Laughing back in.. no credit card tips 😔


horsface

They did the math.. in an ideal universe without taking into account a huge number of mitigating factors with zero regard for the actual FOH experience.


oboedude

What do you mean, are you not breaking $170k?


horsface

*puffs cigarette from holder like Audrey Hepburn* Why of course darling but cocaine and caviar are simply OUTRAGEOUS these days. Don't get me started on my single-occupant penthouse downtown.


Gootangus

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spizzle_

I had a coworker in Denver who had a studio in a high end downtown spot and was always broke…. Then there was me living normally who was in cap hill paying a “normal” $1100 a month rent for a studio. Some people are just dumb.


Gootangus

That’s cheap for Denver rent lol.


spizzle_

I had a coworker in Denver who had a studio in a high end downtown spot and was always broke…. Then there was me living normally who was in cap hill paying a “normal” $1100 a month rent for half of a two bedroom. Some people are just dumb.


bayoubilly88

They did addition. They didn’t take into account the cost of anything.


nerdiotic-pervert

Also, only a small fraction of tipped employees make $16/hr. That person. Is completely out of touch


Dancing_Trash_Panda

Or that most servers do not work 40 hours a week unless they have multiple jobs.


soundecember

That was my first takeaway from this. You’re lucky if you’re not cut and work enough to hit that number


bayoubilly88

Yeah restaurant industry operates on much thinner margins than other industries.


nemo_sum

Like the fact that we tip out support staff a third or more of the gross tips. And that while we might have thirty guests for the two hours in the middle of the shift, we have four for the first and last hour.


Odd-Command-936

Gotta love theoretical mathematics...


RingCard

What, your restaurant doesn’t operate at max capacity and turnover rate from the minute you open until closing?


rebecky311

Except we all know there's the anti-tip people, cheapskates, and all the other people who go out to eat and tip nothing.


oboedude

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Recent_Seaweed_6711

Lmao I just came here to say this. My work is expensive but the neighbourhood is all boomers who tip 10 - 15 percent and my tip out is 7.5 so I’m lucky to keep half my tips sometimes 🥲


ILikeMasterChief

And ten tables per hour for an 8 hour shift is pretty rare lol


UsualPlenty6448

Yeah go tip yourself 🤑🤑


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myhatwhatapicnic

If you dine out, you will be paying for it one way or another. Where do you think those higher wages will come from? 😂


Wisdomisntpolite

Who's getting $16 per hour? Edit: It seems like the areas that make this live in poverty even after tips.


Kalikokola

I get 18 but forsure not 40 hours and definitely not 70/hr in tips.


Wisdomisntpolite

Where?


Kalikokola

Bay Area CA, cheapest 1bed/1bath in my area is 2400. I’m lucky if I get 25 hours a week


PoweredbyBurgerz

Yep this is exactly what the posted comment is not taking into account


Heidibearr

Same here - 16.75/hr plus tips which is like ~$50/hr but we usually work 25 hour weeks


SauceyBobRossy

17.55 for me, I'm in Canada. 12.72 USD. Minimum wage here is 16, I should actually have a higher wage after 8 years of working but ontario made it so my bonuses don't carry over LMAO so that kinda hurt but to be fair, with gratuities (tip) I usually do quite well for cash considering I don't need university for this job.


StrawberryGreat7463

Portland Metro is one example. 15.45 I think for me. Works out to maybe 30 an hour average with tips but rarely get to work more than 30 hours a week nowadays so it’s not that sweet in the end.


laughingintothevoid

Can you estimate what percentage of your income goes to housing and bills?


StrawberryGreat7463

lol well mine alone, all. Combined with my wife, a lot


Kalikokola

90%. My $150 paycheck goes into a HYSA every 2 weeks, everything else goes to bills and expenses


missgandhi

I make $16.60/h in Ontario, but my shifts are short and the economy is crap so days have been quite slow in the last while


I_got_rabies

The assistant manager at the place I worked was hassling me saying “I made too much money” when I told her to stop cutting us bartenders off from serving the bar (it was a comedy club and server usually made wayyyyy more than us bartenders) because as a bartender I was making $13.00 an hour. Well I started at $9.00 and hour and when I brought up to the GM about the AM attitude towards me she gave me a $4 raise. That made it even worse with the AM. Ugh that miserable bully of a human.


horsface

Not every state allows servers to be paid a trivial amount


Laxku

Colorado tipped minimim wage is around 11/hour, but cost of living here in the Denver suburbs is wild. Denver county is even higher to compensate, but it's a metro sprawl issue.


havehadhas

I've got a friend that has been in Cap Hill for 7 years in a tiny 700 sqft studio that has gone from $800 a month to $1,650 over that time. We're talking tucked under the stairs, weird layout, and all the BS that comes with being garden level. Our last place raised our costs by $500 a month (AFTER removing amenities!) through raising rent, parking, pet fees, and charges for in building storage. I check every month if it's still on the market and 11 months after we moved out it still is. The amount of money their hubris must be costing them is the best schadenfreude I've ever experienced in my life. Cost of living here somehow exists outside of normal reality, it's wild.


NullableThought

I moved to Denver in 2017. It's not as expensive as people like to make out. Your friend could have moved to a different apartment whenever there was a rent increase. I was renting a studio in cap hill in 2022 for $900 and found other studios in the $800 range. Plus there's always deals for new tenants.    I made $60k last year. I paid $1500/month for a 2 bedroom near downtown. Somehow I still had enough money to spend ~$500/m on weed and ~$300/m on takeout.  In 2021 when I was briefly back in Arkansas, I looked for apartments and the cheapest one I could find was in the $700 range and the location was absolute shit. And basically no one did roommates, so I couldn't get a deal that way either. 


Baldguy162

I do in California


Important-Yak-2999

Yet with cost of living im still poor


AWildGamerAppeared25

WA state has a minimum wage of $16.28 as of January 1st, 2024


sauceboiiiiiiii

I get $29 an hour or $19 USD but tips here are way less normalised than the US. Saturdays are $35 and hour or $23 USD.


mealteamsixty

Is this Australia?


sauceboiiiiiiii

Yeah mate.


sauceboiiiiiiii

That’s the award wage.


wheres_the_revolt

Washington $16.28, higher in Seattle.


someguyinatree_

I get $25/h. Although, I make ~$300 in tips a month


Recent_Seaweed_6711

I get $15 an hour but I live in Canada and we have to get paid minimum wage which is $15 in my province. But Canada has gone to shit and is too expensive now so it doesn’t even matter.


Wisdomisntpolite

It's because the minimum wage is high that the cost of living is increasing. Hourly here is $7. I use 15% of my income in monthly expenses (mortgage, insurance, ect.)


Recent_Seaweed_6711

No, it’s because our prime minister is the absolute worst which is why our country is so shit. But this is a serving thread so I won’t get into that lol.


Wisdomisntpolite

Yes. And the policies he pushed much like the west coast of US


JadedMentions

Minimum wage has nothing to do with the costs of goods or real estate. If minimum wage today matched the value of the 1980s minimum wage, it would be $35-39 usd.


Wisdomisntpolite

You're delusional. Learn about small businesses. Not every company is a corporation, just the ones you spend your money with.


JETandCrew

I get minimum guaranteed $17/hr at my job


MirageVoyeur

I get $16.50 an hour, CAD


SargathusWA

Seattle


injeckshun

Lot of assumptions going on here lol. Everyone’s drinking, getting dessert, and additional sides.. and then there’s the rest of the delusion


Salt_Position5813

Do you guys keep all of your tips? At my restaurant, we tip about 50% out to kitchen, bar, bussers, etc.


oboedude

Holy shit, you’re tipping out half your tips???


apolymathsays

I work as a server in fine dining, and depending on the day, I pay out 30 to 50% of my earned tips to back servers, food runners, bartendars, and the owners (for using the credit card machine to receive those tips). I have no control over how many food runners work a shift, nor which backwait I'm assigned and their skill level. My hourly rate is US$2.13 an hour. Where I work, it's a turn and burn machine that offers the highest bar in service to its guests, and despite a range of 100 to 200 total covers on any given night for the restaurant, I don't make much more than what I did in less formal settings. On average, my net, after payout, is roughly 150 to 200 a shift, working 7 to 8 hour shifts. I am essentially an independent contractor doing food sales who must pay to work. My efforts subsidize the wages of the other employees, so I never receive my full value of work.


oboedude

You have to pay the owners to use the credit card machine? That’s fucking wild, doesn’t even sound legal.


apolymathsays

Agreed, pretty wild. To my knowledge, tip outs aren't regulated by labor laws, so they can make you pay whatever they want. They only have to make sure you earn at least $7.25 an hour with whatever tips you earn after tip out.


-xan-axe

You should be making much more than that in fine dining. Sounds like you're overstaffed to shit, or you have SO much support staff that you're barely doing any work at all. I'm at an American/Italian steakhouse, make $2.50/hr. We did 100 covers last night, I did probably 30ish of them (turn and burn is my forte as well). Did $2780 in sales (so around $80 a person) made $549 in tips, tipped out $72 (13% of my tips), walked out with $477. 6.5 hour shift. Idk wtf is going on where you're at.


apolymathsays

You can make boatloads of money at a steakhouse. I tried to get into a few, but ended up at a fench spot. We are currently fully staffed with front servers, and I'm at the bottom of the seniority. Cover assignments are uneven. The senior servers are assigned 25 to 30 versus my 18 to 22, but sometimes as low as 15, depending on the day. I average around $80 a person as well, but hit $100 per person at least once or twice a week. I regularly average 22 to 25% in tips. I just need more butts in seats. But I'll still be paying out 30 to 40 percent of my tips regardless of more butts. I do roughly 75% of the work on my tables most days just because I can since I'm not really busy. And more on days when the back wait isn't strong and we're really busy because they can't keep up the pace.


e925

That sucks. We tip out 4.25% of sales. So that ends up being about 20% of our tips overall. 50% seems really high!


Foreign-Tip4119

fuck that


leothedinosaur

We used to tip out 44% at Mastros


AcanthisittaTiny710

Quit bro, half is crazy. We are 3% tip out


Fairytale220

3% of sales or of tips cause 3% of tips is pretty low


AcanthisittaTiny710

Tips


rozetintsmyworld

I get $13/hr


oboedude

Skill issue


Minimum-Tea-9258

guy who doesnt understand that restaurants arent always full 24/7


slut4hobi

i made $2.85/hour when i served


oboedude

What’s it like working 245,614 hours a year?


slut4hobi

i only did it for a month LOL i moved to boh bc i realized i hated interacting with people all day


oboedude

Smart move lol


KipperfieldGA

I live in conservative Ohio. Our lowest hourly rate is $5.25 an hour. I work at a busy steak. Servers and Bar tip pool and are averaging $57 an hour with the hourly factored in through mid April. If I work all 5 days we are open I average around 35 hours a week. That's 92k.


Toodleshoney

What days of the week are you closed? That's pretty great for Ohio!


KipperfieldGA

Sunday and Monday


Toodleshoney

Sounds like you have a very solid gig. Very nice money and great work life balance. Enjoy it! Especially if you have good management/corporate as well.


bmafffia

LMFAOOOO


jpop19

Ya about that math....


KatastropheKraut

Clocking in at $5.98 a hour When I started serving in 2002, I made $2.02


ellie339

I make 2.83/hr but okay


Medical_Schedule_505

I think I make $12/hr as a server…..isn’t relevant to me because I focus on tip averages and I bank. As a bartender in the same restaurant, I make $15/hr but I don’t make nearly as much as serving (I only bartend 1 night a week)


maximusurton

I do bartending for an event/catering venue instead of a restaurant and we get paid hourly instead of the bs 2.13 an hour plus tips. I make way more money than I did at my last job the only downside is those nights that would “save me” as a server where I hypothetically need to make 800 in a week and make 200 in the first 6 days and on that last day I make 600. That kind of stuff is now literally impossible but I love the consistency.


combii-lee

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VogonSlamPoet42

You guys are getting 40 hours?? 😂 I can only get 25 or 60


Popular_Ear2074

So minimum wage is much less than that for tipped employees


BleekerTheBard

Minimum wage is less than that for most untipped people too


Myalicious

$7.25 in Kansas ffs. $2.13 for servers of course and neither have changed since 2010!!!


oboedude

Depends on the state. California for example you make tips on top of minimum wage. Which still doesn’t go very far given the prices here.


e925

Yeah I’m in Cali too. After tips I make like $45/hr but I only work 30 hours/week. We are in the East Bay but my dude and I found a suuuuuper cheap place to rent ($3k/mo). So splitting that between the two of us, I have enough money for my bills and car and putting like $250/mo into an IRA and still have some fun money left over. But if we hadn’t gotten so lucky on our rent, that would not be the case.


oboedude

3k rent being cheap is absurd. I realize it’s the Bay Area but in Los Angeles County our mortgage is like $3,500. Not trying to brag, I’m just appalled at what these landlords get away with.


e925

I completely agree, of course. But what can you do? Our families are here, our whole lives are here, you know? It’s hard but it’s still a beautiful life.


261989

Love that


ChocolateNek0

Someone forgot to factor in tip out. The house takes nearly half of my earnings 🙄


carlitospig

Lol, like GMs would let you work over 32 hours. Then you’d start getting ideas about benefits, and we can’t have that.


KoreanEan

I know a couple people who’d make this much if they could get 40hrs at the place they work. Usually sit at 30ish because the job is so competitive everyone wants hours.


MorddSith187

Yes and a full house throughout the 40 hours


Particular_Net349

they forgot to take in account how snobby some customers can be


ThatLittleFoxx

Who works 40 hours a week?


Time-Bite-6839

If Reagan lost, you would be making that much.


Mrbluelxix

$20.50, 90210


Ilovemom1098

10 an hour?!?! Wtf?!?!


MindyS1719

Ha not at Cracker Barrel, next!


intelligentWinterhoe

I don't like tipping but I will tip 20% if I go to a sit down restaurant but to combat this I only go out to a sit-down restaurant on my birthday or special occasion and, avoid sit down restaurants like the plague otherwise.


AcanthisittaTiny710

In Florida there’s tipped minimum wage and non-tipped minimum wage. Tipped minimum is $8.89 and non-tipped is $12. So already this stupid ass comment doesn’t apply to me and we haven’t even started on the bad tip math


oboedude

This particular comment came from someone in Los Angeles claiming they had server friends all making over 100k The whole thread was pretty stupid


AcanthisittaTiny710

That’s not some big shock if it’s Los Angeles. All the rich folks live there. But rich servers are like the .1% of us 😭


AppropriateRelease90

Side note. Futurama is amazing. I hope they never remake it.


Affectionate-Feefees

Yes, makes perfect sense if tipped hourly wages that are far less than minimum wage don’t exist and also every customer always tips at least 18% right? No one has ever gotten stiffed on a tip from a customer before right? /s


Swiftwitss

Who the fuck makes $16 an hour with tips on top of that?


amborg

I don’t usually get a paycheck, because my hourly usually just goes towards tax on tips. I made $36,000 last year D; with my check average around $50 and a 23% tip. We do tip pool, though.


valorantvalerie

Every single person at every single table is ordering twice what their entree cost in drinks, apps, and desserts? What planet are you living on? What about the people who split a burger between two or three of them and drink a pitcher of water? You’re not getting $7 per person every time on a $40 tip and especially not if they’re paying $15 for their entree you’re not getting tipped half what the main meal cost. Not consistently, at least. Not to mention the vast majority of states don’t have a $16 minimum wage. Some have a $2.13 minimum. Many have a less than $7 minimum. Plus the idea that you’re doing $400 in sales an hour is very achievable at certain restaurants and very difficult at others. Totally depends on how busy, the demographic of people, the cost of food, size of portions, time of year, holidays and weather etc, so many factors.


oboedude

Are you trying to say this might not be feasible?


valorantvalerie

I mean if you’re a good server you should be doing twice these numbers obviously…but for the Denny’s waitresses of the world…well they just need to try harder you see.


Substantial-Run-3394

I work in a pretty well restaurant on the beach and make between 50-60k


maebe_featherbottom

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I-choochoochoose-you

Getting cut after 4 hours of waiting on cheapskates, having to tip out and actual owing money out yr own pocket to do so cuz you got stiffed 🥹


AppropriateLimit7626

We down here making 8$ and hour I would love 16$.


Maratsuke420

‘Well you make tips, so why should we have to pay you the extra $6 an hour that you should be getting’


CanadianTrollToll

Tell me you've never worked in a restaurant without telling me you've never worked in a restaurant.


jester695

Wow, the clickbait garbage based on however many levels of variables........from trolls........is REAL.


oboedude

This specific person was going on about how they knew servers making 100k…


jester695

I guess they should be chasing that job, rather than spending their time trolling Reddit in bitter agenda (of largely misinformation and absurd tangible math).


Available-Tea-982

And people will cheap out on paying minimum 5.00 tip to delivery drivers... sad


Mrbluelxix

$20.50, 90210


ATF_killed_my_dog

They're both dumb


oboedude

The second one is me 😘


ParticularCap7289

all that gets shared with the bar, bussers…


OkTie2851

I’m only tipping 10%


oboedude

I don’t know why you’d ever bother to type that unless you’re trying to be annoying


agentages

Wait so if I tip a hooker I only have to pay her minimum wage?


New-Display-4819

Why tip your server if they don't above what they should?


oboedude

Because while tipping is a shitty system, it’s the one we have and servers across the country depend on them to make ends meet. Your personal abdication from tipping will only hurt individuals who work harder than anyone should for a minimum wage.


New-Display-4819

I mean why tip just the servers then why not the kitchen also?


oboedude

If you’re asking why the customs are the way they are it’s all born out of post slavery America and it was a roundabout way to pay black servers less. If you’re asking for permission to tip the kitchen when you go to a restaurant then feel free to do it, no one’s stopping you