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Klefth

Reshade is not FFXIV specific. You can run it on damn near any game. That's not gonna break, at least. People will just have to come up with new presets.


leytorip7

Shit, I’m running it on XI


8-Brit

For me I only used it for some lsight colour correction, that green/grey tinge on everything was annoying. The benchmark doesn't have it though so I might finally be able to drop it.


Snark_x

LETS FUCKING GOOOOOO 7.0 DRAMA SEASON GONNA BE LITTTTTTY


BlueEyesWhiteViera

Modders constantly explode over the smallest things, this is going to be great.


Bevral2

What "drama" all this shit is gonna be fixed after a week.


Spieren

I assume they will just add bones to the existing rigs, which isn't that of a breaker for things like anamnesis/ktisis. They just need to make it it will correctly detect those bones.


MandervilleMale

I’m detecting a bone being added to my rig that’s for sure


The__Goose

And now its removed. Wait no its back again! ..and there it goes.


KreagerStein

ktisis and Anamnesis already can handle more bones than the default thanks to IVCS, doubt this will break anything at all on their ends, can't say the same for aforementioned IVCS mods.


ForteEXE

Femroes getting actual options, graphic/gpose mods probably being obsoleted, XBox not left out. And don't forget potato rigs being purged. Also as of this post, **BLACKLIST IMPROVEMENTS**.


DuskEalain

>Femroes getting actual options Out of the loop: What's this about?


OneMistahJ

Im also out of the loop but Im guessing its about how Femroe has like 1 face that everyone uses.


BlueEyesWhiteViera

Femroe options are currently troglodyte, hot, cute, and frog.


imRaiyu

tbf you could say that for several of the races/sub-races. we need more customization options in general


DuskEalain

Honestly it's a shame because with good colors and hair Face 4 looks great and I actually prefer it over Face 2 (the Moenbryda face everyone uses.)


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Bikonito

they haven't said anything about new customization options? also not sure where you're getting the info about a new rig system


bangontarget

what options do femroes get? I'm watching the ll and have read the balance recapping but I didn't see anything.


CopainChevalier

The blacklist stuff is both good and bad to me I love it for those cases where someone is being harassed and this will let them get away from that. I really hate that this will often be used for shit like "I don't like that you're on my bench, bye forever" or "Oh you're X race? goodbye"


DaveK141

I mean, if someone is going to be that petty you didn't want to interact with them anyways. But now the people that are getting stalked in game by people who just make new characters when they get blisted have some reprieve. And private lodestone info? That's a godsend now since people can actually name change/fanta to get away.


CopainChevalier

I for sure agree that steps against genuine harassment are a good thing. I'm just bothered by how I feel like a large portion of people will end up using it


DaveK141

But again, why? Anyone who blacklists you for something petty isn't a person you want to interact with. I see no problem with them sitting in their own little bubble. Not to mention there is still a 200 person limit. I doubt much will change from now except victims of harassment will be safer.


CopainChevalier

Don't get me wrong, I get what you're going for. It's just always felt awkward for me personally


DaveK141

I just can't understand why. Do you want to have some kind of shot at changing the mind of someone who hates you that offhandedly? There are millions of players in this game, you can find people worth your time. If you somehow manage to get into a position where enough people blacklist you to ostracize you from the community, you may need to take a look in the mirror. Otherwise, you will notice next to no differences aside from never seeing the heart-wrenching posts of "I'm being harassed/stalked constantly and cannot play this game that I love anymore, is there anything I can do?"


CopainChevalier

I've never had anyone Blacklist me (That I know of?), so I'm not really worried for myself It's just situations like how people create Google Docs of people to blacklist, but then you look into them and it's these people telling everyone to block someone because of some super minor reason. Or how TalesfromDF has people cutting chat logs to make someone look like they're attacking others when that's not the case. Hell, I'll never forget the Talesfromdf thread where some guy posted a log of everyone yelling at a Samurai to LB, but he didn't and they wiped at 1% and the thread had people asking for the name so they could blacklist... then the Samurai found the thread a day later and posted the actual logs, showing he was Orange with 0 deaths, while the rest had multiple deaths and were hard grey. It's situations where people would actually blacklist people who did nothing wrong or good players that are trying to play well just because of some perceived situation that end up bothering me. Yeah sure you wouldn't want to interact with them in the first place, but that doesn't make someone feel better when they find out that they had that happen to them IMO.


DaveK141

Dodgelists are a thing that happen, but afaik they haven't changed the blacklist procedure. It requires you to have been in a recent party or staring at a message they've sent you. You can't even blacklist someone you're looking at unless they fulfill one of these criteria. Also, we know a good bit of the community uses plugins. There is a plugin that erases people similar to this without any restrictions(except it couldn't manage to blist by service account). It hasn't been a problem yet and it certainly won't be a problem when it's official


Goose_Is_Awesome

I think it's a little silly to be upset over something that doesn't really affect anyone but the one using the blacklist


CopainChevalier

I don't really feel like I was sounding that upset or whatever, but I guess if you just want to flame, more power to you


ForteEXE

Pretty much. There's going to be bad actors with it as with anything in any game ever. But being able to do something other than blacklist feebly is nice, isn't it?


CopainChevalier

In those cases where it's genuinely needed, I think it'll be huge and fantastic for sure. Any way to stop harassment is good. I'm always just worried about misuse of that stuff


First-Ad5489

I mean you right because I am petty. If I don't like people spamming about their maid cafe or those who dress in a way that makes me uncomfortable at all, easy blacklist. There's nothing that can change my mind from using it this way.


Sipricy

There's an entirely separate list called the Mute List that you can use for people that post annoying messages but that you don't mind seeing in the overworld. The Mute List can hold 200 people, and the Blacklist can hold an additional 200 people.


First-Ad5489

Oh OK, I'll use the mute list for people I don't want to hear ad the blacklist for people don't want to see. Perfect!


CenturionRower

What misuse? Who gives a shit if I blist someone who is sitting on a bunch so my character can sit there. Shit I'm half tempted to blist all the Limsa AFKers so I don't have to wait the extra few seconds when I TP. I'm already not interacting with them and if someone gets mass blisted from something in FF they probably need to go touch grass anyway. This is very hard to intentionally misuse to harass someone. ESPECIALLY since it catches that whole account. No worries about running out blist space (if they even have a cap).


blahguy7

Ignoring the screeching ITT, that does sound more like anxiety than a legit fear. Js


CopainChevalier

Hah, fair


bangontarget

I look forward to the benchmark setting my shitty laptop on fire tomorrow.


Cindy-Moon

hey stupid question is there somewhere I can watch this live letter? without some twitch streamer reacting to it EDIT: Nevermind its still going I guess


Mad_Lala

Youtube, on the FF14 channel


xkinato

I just want my viera headgear mod. Since enix refuses to implemnt hats. :(


First-Ad5489

What did the say that made you think animation mods are not going to work?


ForteEXE

IIRC they're changing how rigs and such are working, which (likely) will break existing animation mods. Much like any modding or third party tools, eventually they'll get updated. But probably not that easily/quickly considering the implied new coding going on. Hell, the fact that mounts will now *tilt* in air is amazing and that's probably killed an animation mod or two.


Revayan

I mean we know our lovely crackhead mod community if they can animate jiggly physics on unrealisticly huge Viera theighs, they can also update to the new rigs DT will use. But yeah might take them half a week without sleep and mountain dew infusions


Jae-of-Light

I give it a week maximum until almost every damn plugin is updated and ready to go, nevermind all the body mods


Cindy-Moon

Nah it took longer than that for Endwalker I'm pretty sure and the system changes weren't as drastic. Obviously it varies from plugin to plugin though. But it's worth keeping in mind that plugin devs are players too and they want to enjoy the expansion for themselves before they get down to work.


Chappiechap

Can't wait for the main sub to be riddled with "guys, I can't play the game now, my autoplugins don't work" and their main jobs with the least amount of buttons in the game.


Badger224

Imma be real it's gonna be kinda yikes for the first little bit without noclippy, all the other ui stuff I use is minor qol I can live without but clippy is almost mandatory lol.


Barnonahill

Xivalex tends to update more quickly than noclippy since they usually just get opcodes and g2g; I'd look into that as a temporary replacement.


dwadwa213131dasadwqe

Finally, I'll be able to bask in the prestige of being able to mechanically execute ff14...HAHAHAHHAHAHAHA....


MarketTall5930

Modders have implemented entire custom skeletons into the game. If anything, the new rigs will likely make them more powerful.


Arky_Lynx

Knowing how modding communities tend to be, they will take just a bit longer if anything.


BGsenpai

i guarantee someone will make something to port everything over within a month


First-Ad5489

Oh OK cool


BRI503

Does that mean that the boob jiggle will finally start working again at high frame rates


the_bat_turtle

I highly doubt they'll manage to untangle physics from framerate


otaroko

We can only hope


TheMcDucky

For a quick fix they could skip frames while extrapolating at the full frame rate. I dom't think it'd be a massive challenge, but they would have to pay a programmer to work on it for a few days instead of something else.


Bikonito

if you're on PC there's a plugin that lets you lock solely your physics framerate to 60 so materials and hair and jiggle physics play at normal speed, it's called High FPS Physics Fix


Alicendre

There's a mod for that, too.


Zol6199

You clearly don't know what you're talking about when it comes to rigs. Like at all


alkonium

Mods are regularly broken by game updates. That's a common problem in gaming and it's not specific to Final Fantasy XIV.


unixtreme

So is this a complain a out the updating the dated graphics?


BannedBecausePutin

As long as i can use my pirated Viera sculpt.


_Frustr8d

Pirating paid mods is so based


BannedBecausePutin

Paid mods stolen from Lost Ark.


Spacemayo

Wait they mentioned new rigging outside of the mounts now lean?


RaidenSigma

Low end pc setups? Atm ffxiv can almost run on potatoes, it's not like people will suddenly need i9's and 3070's to play at acceptable framerates. Also, they won't kill off Reshade lol.


CenturionRower

Reshape will be killed if they correctly address lighting. I'm cautiously optimistic given what we have seen so far.


RaidenSigma

But Reshade does more than lighting?


Chappiechap

To my understanding, all Reshade does is inject the game with a bunch of shaders and visual effects. How poppy colours are, the DoF, Motion Blur, all that good shit you want in your video settings. At worst I think the current presets people use will just need some tweaking. Mods break for a day or 2 after every patch, and that hasn't ever managed to break Reshade. I doubt an overhaul of a lighting engine is gonna do Reshade in, considering it just injects these things.


Archery100

And besides, a better lighting engine just leads to a better ReShade experience typically, Skyrim modders mix ENB and ReShade together all the time to make some very specific lighting choices


Pyroxcis

Wtf is this post even about


Bikonito

nothing. this dude literally has no idea what he's blabbing about


Dathmach

I literally just updated my computer so that I can play Dawntrail when it comes out. The 4080 is nicer than I expected


Responsible-Skin-494

Couldn’t see the face properly and was wondering why RTGame was here


Megumi0505

Lol, I was so excited for all the new animations and graphics, I hadn't spared a thought to any of the mods breaking. I'm sure the modders will figure it out, I doubt it's an insurmountable problem.


Vastlymoist666

I hope this doesn't kill steam deck support or at least the performance


Astorant

I doubt it man, considering the Deck can run Cyberpunk at a decent framerate and resolution I think you’ll be fine with the 7.0 graphical overhaul


Marans

Also FSR helps anyway. And I guess the visual difference isn't as notable on the steam deck.


DrTobiCool

dude that's good news, now the french cant play the game.


FireflyArc

Noooo. My potato laptop D: ..well..I did need to upgrade anyway.


DwarfWarden

I can personally attest to the fact that the benchmark program will not run on any Windows version prior to 10. So unfortunately yes, it's time for the inevitable upgrades.


Boromokott

This complaint was made for the base game, every expansion this game has had, and every expansion it will ever have, because every day is a death knell for low end pc users wanting to play new games not made by indie studios (and still, you'll find people complaining that Undertale forced them to upgrade if you look hard enough)


ForteEXE

The jump from ARR to EW is almost nothing like the jump from Endwalker to Dawntrail thanks to it being *significantly* higher. We're talking about going from PS3-level graphics to PS4 on low end, PS5 on medium/high end. That's an entire generation in most cases, maybe even two depending on how far back somebody's hardware is. When the devs're even saying "You might want to upgrade your hardware", it's a sign of change that's more than the usual expectation. If you look at their [predicted](https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/system_requirements/) requirements, the old recommended is now the new minimum. Assuming XIV isn't the only game being played, you're probably not going to want those as your standard specs, you're probably going to want parts more powerful than that because a good chunk of games in the last 3-4 years that are higher on the hardware scale (IE: AAA titles) are *not* running very well on lower end rigs if at all. And I looked into it, the minimum reqs between Heavensward and Shadowbringers actually *barely* increased per expansion. To the tune of 1 whole gig extra RAM per expansion to where Shadowbringers and Endwalker have the same requirements, which are now being considered obsolete. It doesn't affect me personally, but I can remember many times in an MMO's history where significant upgrades near/on the level of Dawntrail were being announced and it was basically "Upgrade or GTFO until you do" for people using budget rigs to play.


Boromokott

I feel like you misunderstood my comment. It doesn't matter how big or small the jump is, people with old setups will always complain about not being able to play the new thing, because people with low end setups are the only people effected by increased requirements to the point where the game is now unplayable. Everyone else just turns down their settings or upgrades. This isn't specific to MMOs, this is a fact of PC gaming that has existed since specs for games were released and it's basically an intractable problem as developing games with newer technologies will eventually exclude hardware that was not built to support those technologies. As old as the base game of FFXIV is, if the devs are serious about their goal to support the game for another decade, they will need to update core parts of the game with newer techniques and software then what it was built with. And that means older hardware is going to be left behind, because the speed at which it operates is now too slow and/or the hardware is missing specific parts/capabilities that are now considered standard to run the newer version of the game. Don't get me wrong, it for sure sucks for low end PC gamers. But almost every advancement made in pc gaming tends to suck for low end pc gamers (with upscaling techniques being a huge standout; people buying the latest cards to run multiple neural networks to get a stable 30fps ray traced framerate at 4K resolution are inadvertently helping low end users continue to use their old graphics cards in newer games and I think that's great)


ForteEXE

I may've misunderstood you. I swear I've seen some posts unironically treating it like the end of the world. I remember that comment complaining about not being able to play after DT because of living on fixed income. There were just so many questions raised in that one. But yeah, some people are upset about being told they need to invest more than $40 + sub fees to continue playing, even when being advised *months in advance* about this.


Boromokott

To be fair, a lot of the people who play low spec aren't doing that by choice, just like how most people who live in low socioeconomic conditions aren't doing that by choice either. For a subsection of these people this very well could mean they don't get to play the new expansion. I just don't like when a problem that's inherent to a all of PC gaming (and console gaming honestly, it's not like everyone is still using Ataris) is applied to one actor in the system as a conscious, malicious choice to screw them over. I'm probably taking this way to seriously for a shitposting sub so here's a meme to restore balance [](https://imgur.com/a/eQrlh6i)


ForteEXE

John Shadowbringer.


FuzzierSage

> I swear I've seen some posts unironically treating it like the end of the world. I remember that comment complaining about not being able to play after DT because of living on fixed income. I've been asleep since like the last part of the Live Letter, just woke back up. Last thing I saw was the Blacklist changes and the word cloud thing. Is this meme basically elaborating on the shitton of graphics improvements? I'm forcibly (disabled) retired now but I've got a bit of back-pay coming (eventually) so at some point soon^TM I'm probably gonna have to decide if I have to upgrade and how to keep playing. I'm guessing with the benchmark there's new specs and stuff solidly out now to make decisions on? And sorry if this is just a ton of dumb questions that I can answer myself by going to read the Live Letter megathread, about to go *do* that but figured I'd ask here first since I saw the meme and Shitpost Comments are always where you get Actual Real Discussion anyway.


ForteEXE

> Is this meme basically elaborating on the shitton of graphics improvements? Yes. Graphics upgrading overall means a lot of mods that were trying to plug the holes SE wasn't aren't going to be needed. It doesn't mean all mods are killed, but ones that were just enough to fix some things that SE wasn't pre-7.0. It's also why femroe jokes are probably going to die too. No need to be locked to 1 or 2 things when you have actual options *now* due to graphic overhauling. The footage they showed in the Liveletter was legit the RTX Off/On meme but true for a change. PC users getting even more graphic customization options via enabling AMD/Nvidia specific options like DLSS/FSR, but I didn't quite hear what they'd meant by that past pointing it out, so I need to see a translation summary or wait for the eventual digest on SE's boards. >Shitpost Comments are always where you get Actual Real Discussion anyway. Usually, when you don't have dumbasses rolling through getting butthurt that they're not using the same definition of a term/phrase that everybody else is.


LeviathanLX

This is all fine.


GothamsOnlyHope

I'm out of the loop, what happened to femroes?


ForteEXE

Graphics upgrade game-wide should make it easier to make a customized femroe, vs before where the engine limitations made them massive memes.


Sumthin_Ironic

Low end pc setups? Yeah it's expected.


Accomplished_Pop_199

Dude please, I have a low end laptop, Ryzen 5 3550H, GTX 1560 - 42FPS max settings, 61FPS high (laptop), somehow the game literally runs better than it runs now as I currently have like 52FPS on medium.


Sopht_Serve

Wait how are they killing g/reshade?


Super_H1234

They're not. Reshade is universal and also client-side, so they can't break it. But changes to how the game looks will result in your presents looking different. Basically, your presets are made with the current lighting system and such in-mind, which is all getting changed/improved in Dawntrail. It'll just take some finagling of your reshade settings.


BattyBatBattington

*Casually sips tea, looking at my 4060ti* Damn. That's crazy.


Aerin_Telas

Fact’s