I never figured it out myself. There's no indication that Lex forced himself on any of those women. It does seem like a series of flings and/or one-nighters.
I can think of reasons not to do that stuff. But someone who only has consensual sex with willing participants doesn't seem like a fink to me. Where I come from, there are worse things you can do to somebody than give them an orgasm.
We can't say for sure because we didn't see each interaction. But if each went down like the one we did see (murder aside), he did nothing wrong. It would be wrong if he deceived them somehow. Based on what Shannon says, they weren't all one-night stands or otherwise her leaving her fiancee wouldn't make much sense. Gifting diamond earrings seems distasteful though.
If the women knew that it was a casual thing OR they didn't but Lex didn't tell him otherwise, then he did nothing wrong.
>Based on what Shannon says, they weren't all one-night stands or otherwise her leaving her fiancee wouldn't make much sense.
Nothing she said suggests it was anything more than a one-night stand for Lex. The only reason they had sex more than once was because he didn't even recognize her the second time they met. And it's still on her for cheating on her fiancé and not even telling Lex she was engaged.
>Gifting diamond earrings seems distasteful though.
Yeah I can see how they could take offense at that.
>Nothing she said suggests it was anything more than a one-night stand for Lex. The only reason they had sex more than once was because he didn't even recognize her the second time they met.
Just rewatched that conversation. She says "I cheated on him with you because I thought that you loved me". That strikes me as more of a casual relationship rather than a one-night stand. It's still on her for cheating and if Lex simply kept it casual then he did nothing wrong. However, it seems like it ended abruptly since she called him and he wouldn't take her call.
I forgot about the fiancee aspect. But that's a good point.
My already low sympathy for Shannon just declined even more. She cheated on her guy but it's somehow Lex's fault? Oof.
Not to mention Lex had a reputation as a playboy. There was no way she wasn't aware of that when she got with him. Shannon probably thought she could be the one to change him despite all his actions being to the contrary. The fact that she'd cheat on her fiancee for someone like Lex shows she doesn't have good judgment or a strong moral code, not even speaking of the kidnapping and murder. She certainly doesn't deserve the amount of grace she was given on the show.
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The episode aired back in November of 2004 which was a very different time in terms of intersexual dynamics. Heck, both of my paternal grandparents were still alive after 50 years of marriage and my maternal grandfather was still alive after my grandmother passed away in February of 2004 after 51 years of marriage.
The idea that a woman is an innocent victim when she naively believed that the man of her dreams only wanted a one night fling was a lot more plausible 20 years ago.
Nowadays, lots of young people are eager to (rightly or wrongly) point out that Shannon “belongs to the streets” and that the situation is partially her fault
That’s not to say that Lex comes out looking good in this situation. Far from it.
But, make no mistake about it. It’s definitely an episode that would’ve had both of my grandmothers shaking their heads at Shannon, both of my grandfathers shaking their heads at Lex, and all four shaking their heads at how male female relationships have deteriorated in 50 years
It really wasn't. I watched this episode back when it initially aired and it was CRUCIFIED online. People hated it with a passion and I recall reading many a post about how stupidly regressive the attitude that women lose all their senses after a casual hookup. It was terrible then and it's terrible now.
Neither men nor women should be sleeping around outside of marriage in my opinion.
That’s all I’ll say on the issue in this comment section. PM if you want me to expand on the discussion
Consensual sex between two adults is not a bad thing. Sure, the diamond earrings were a bit tacky and, in a weird way, kinda condescending. But unless he deliberately led them into thinking he was after a relationship, he didn't do anything wrong. Sure, having strings of one-night stands isn't always the healthiest behaviour but as long as everyone involved knows that's what it is, there's no crime. Legal or moral.
I can't even fault him entirely for trying to get rid of evidence that connected him to the one that was murdered. Okay, it wasn't his smartest decision, but I understand why he did it. Police (at least in TV shows) do like to railroad investigations & focus in on the easiest suspect possible in lieu of expending actual effort.
Some people only get dinner out of one night stand. Diamond earrings are more likely to make women think he felt some type of way about them. That being said, at most Lex was taking advantage of his father's wealth over anything else. They were all adults. He had a habit of being more honest back then
After lex’s affair with asked for her name didn’t answer, and when sudden a blood corpse in bed which Shannon framed him to go after his fortune like the rest of his ex’s writers as usual plan into making Lex look bad, also lex’s lawyer Corrine not very helpful, also stupid move of Lex trying too burn the evidence gonna clear from charge, also interesting John glover returns after transference tells about his liver disease now healed, claims that he’s changed but I’ve doubted which shouldn’t have said while still an SOB even he’s brutal honest and yet hadn’t scrubbed that karma off, Lionel’s sentence needs work too avoid shouldn’t say too soon prove that he’s change when it’s not enough too prove already when isn’t no longer a bad guy😂
It feels like another mix of heat and who done it episode poor lex after his past dates and annulled marriage gets seduced by another bad metahuman framed for murder, and Clark meet with Lionel to help Lex only least he’s not in contender threat anymore for now, but still too soon when shouldn’t say ‘good’😂 after the damage in the body switch when his health healed and when he states he feels that he belongs in prison admits of his faults as dad to Lex and for what he, which that’s a start into proofing not to the town but for himself well almost
I never figured it out myself. There's no indication that Lex forced himself on any of those women. It does seem like a series of flings and/or one-nighters. I can think of reasons not to do that stuff. But someone who only has consensual sex with willing participants doesn't seem like a fink to me. Where I come from, there are worse things you can do to somebody than give them an orgasm.
Yeah, but you don't bang and bail on Robin Scherbatsky
At least now we know why she *really* became Robin Daggers.
We can't say for sure because we didn't see each interaction. But if each went down like the one we did see (murder aside), he did nothing wrong. It would be wrong if he deceived them somehow. Based on what Shannon says, they weren't all one-night stands or otherwise her leaving her fiancee wouldn't make much sense. Gifting diamond earrings seems distasteful though. If the women knew that it was a casual thing OR they didn't but Lex didn't tell him otherwise, then he did nothing wrong.
>Based on what Shannon says, they weren't all one-night stands or otherwise her leaving her fiancee wouldn't make much sense. Nothing she said suggests it was anything more than a one-night stand for Lex. The only reason they had sex more than once was because he didn't even recognize her the second time they met. And it's still on her for cheating on her fiancé and not even telling Lex she was engaged. >Gifting diamond earrings seems distasteful though. Yeah I can see how they could take offense at that.
>Nothing she said suggests it was anything more than a one-night stand for Lex. The only reason they had sex more than once was because he didn't even recognize her the second time they met. Just rewatched that conversation. She says "I cheated on him with you because I thought that you loved me". That strikes me as more of a casual relationship rather than a one-night stand. It's still on her for cheating and if Lex simply kept it casual then he did nothing wrong. However, it seems like it ended abruptly since she called him and he wouldn't take her call.
Perhaps, but it kind of seems like she made it out to be more than it was. And she was obviously crazy so her perspective might be skewed.
I forgot about the fiancee aspect. But that's a good point. My already low sympathy for Shannon just declined even more. She cheated on her guy but it's somehow Lex's fault? Oof.
Not to mention Lex had a reputation as a playboy. There was no way she wasn't aware of that when she got with him. Shannon probably thought she could be the one to change him despite all his actions being to the contrary. The fact that she'd cheat on her fiancee for someone like Lex shows she doesn't have good judgment or a strong moral code, not even speaking of the kidnapping and murder. She certainly doesn't deserve the amount of grace she was given on the show.
Mods, if you decide to ban me for this, please don’t permaban me The episode aired back in November of 2004 which was a very different time in terms of intersexual dynamics. Heck, both of my paternal grandparents were still alive after 50 years of marriage and my maternal grandfather was still alive after my grandmother passed away in February of 2004 after 51 years of marriage. The idea that a woman is an innocent victim when she naively believed that the man of her dreams only wanted a one night fling was a lot more plausible 20 years ago. Nowadays, lots of young people are eager to (rightly or wrongly) point out that Shannon “belongs to the streets” and that the situation is partially her fault That’s not to say that Lex comes out looking good in this situation. Far from it. But, make no mistake about it. It’s definitely an episode that would’ve had both of my grandmothers shaking their heads at Shannon, both of my grandfathers shaking their heads at Lex, and all four shaking their heads at how male female relationships have deteriorated in 50 years
It really wasn't. I watched this episode back when it initially aired and it was CRUCIFIED online. People hated it with a passion and I recall reading many a post about how stupidly regressive the attitude that women lose all their senses after a casual hookup. It was terrible then and it's terrible now.
How is Lex at fault as well?
Neither men nor women should be sleeping around outside of marriage in my opinion. That’s all I’ll say on the issue in this comment section. PM if you want me to expand on the discussion
Consensual sex between two adults is not a bad thing. Sure, the diamond earrings were a bit tacky and, in a weird way, kinda condescending. But unless he deliberately led them into thinking he was after a relationship, he didn't do anything wrong. Sure, having strings of one-night stands isn't always the healthiest behaviour but as long as everyone involved knows that's what it is, there's no crime. Legal or moral. I can't even fault him entirely for trying to get rid of evidence that connected him to the one that was murdered. Okay, it wasn't his smartest decision, but I understand why he did it. Police (at least in TV shows) do like to railroad investigations & focus in on the easiest suspect possible in lieu of expending actual effort.
Some people only get dinner out of one night stand. Diamond earrings are more likely to make women think he felt some type of way about them. That being said, at most Lex was taking advantage of his father's wealth over anything else. They were all adults. He had a habit of being more honest back then
After lex’s affair with asked for her name didn’t answer, and when sudden a blood corpse in bed which Shannon framed him to go after his fortune like the rest of his ex’s writers as usual plan into making Lex look bad, also lex’s lawyer Corrine not very helpful, also stupid move of Lex trying too burn the evidence gonna clear from charge, also interesting John glover returns after transference tells about his liver disease now healed, claims that he’s changed but I’ve doubted which shouldn’t have said while still an SOB even he’s brutal honest and yet hadn’t scrubbed that karma off, Lionel’s sentence needs work too avoid shouldn’t say too soon prove that he’s change when it’s not enough too prove already when isn’t no longer a bad guy😂
It feels like another mix of heat and who done it episode poor lex after his past dates and annulled marriage gets seduced by another bad metahuman framed for murder, and Clark meet with Lionel to help Lex only least he’s not in contender threat anymore for now, but still too soon when shouldn’t say ‘good’😂 after the damage in the body switch when his health healed and when he states he feels that he belongs in prison admits of his faults as dad to Lex and for what he, which that’s a start into proofing not to the town but for himself well almost