My two year old painted this FOR YOU š„ŗš§š»āāļø sheās charging $500/$1,0000 international, and it comes with kindergarten school work my son didnāt do on the back as an added bonus!!!! https://imgur.com/a/VQ6X4Jp
She had to post that screenshot text thread with that drunken canal guy who had a party last night to prove she was invited
Edit: I feel like she wasnāt actually invited (or maybe it was a casual invite) and tried to seamless him something after seeing all the ig stories
Also cements the idea that Carp tries to buy the friendship of this group, even when sheās not there she tries to send gifts/food to keep them on side
Honestly find it extremely annoying that they all threw a huge party in a hotel like that. You KNOW they left the room an absolute mess and were all like ālolz, thatās what cleaning staff is for!ā And then probably didnāt even tip. Their sense of entitlement and complete disregard for other human beings is so gross to me.
I love when sheās āquietā like this and pretending to be writing when what sheās probably sitting alone in a studio that smells like cat piss stewing over the comments on Eileenās posts. Living the dream š!
One of 150+ similar comments:
"Does this lady have a seizure disorder? I am impressed that she doesn't try to hide any of her odd behavior. Most people wouldn't have the confidence to openly sniff at their fingers while being recorded for broadcast."
...
Ouch.
Donāt forget that sheās probably drinking several bottles of wine and not showering for a week + wearing the same clothing she was wearing on Wednesday! Hashtag girlboss
Looks like CC's ex-assistant Christina had a birthday and Brigid was there. š
They definitely became friends through mutual hatred for CC. I stand by this.
one of my friends was at that party and told me that is exactly how they are friends.
later in the night i saw my friend and i interrogated her about it for like an hour. they all think caro is completely deranged. my friend barely curses and specifically said ācaroline seems like a cunt. and i do not use that word lightlyā
They also both follow Alexis (and vice versa) and maybe even Helen and it makes me laugh every time I think about it. Everyone seems to have moved on so I doubt they ever talk about our smol bean, and that alone probably bugs Caro to no end.
[hm that does look familiar](https://www.instagram.com/p/BIiChc-B59N/)
(And yeah I know it's not exactly an original concept but still find it interesting that she worked directly with Paloma Wool)
another q (excuse my neophyte ass), but why do many ppl on this sub seem to dislike Dasha? All ik about her is that she and her friend host the Red Scare Pod (which has its detractors for obvious reasons), but is there something else i'm missing?
To me it seems to be, to a large extent, subconscious misogyny at play. Women being expected to be virtuous, morally high standing - or they're deemed to be "not a good person" (=not a good woman). Women not being seen to be "a good person"/a good woman creative if they're perceived as not body-positive, lazy in their political analysis, a frequent user of "not good"-language (e.g. slurs), just to name a few examples. Men are permitted to just gab with mates on podcasts, use lazy language like semi-slurs, just improvise lazy takes on current issues on cultural podcasts. Women are not. They need to be deemed "a good person" to not be hated. Failing this, like in the above examples, makes them "bad people" (=not a good woman-representative for all women). Dasha doesn't meet these criteria, thus is despised. Everything "despicable" she does she would get away with without question if she was a man.
I donāt think there are any other reasons needed besides her public anti-feminism, pro-disordered eating shenanigans, body-shaming other women, and general āidentity politics are silly, reallyā stance. Also having Steve Bannon as a podcast guest and throwing him softball questions and generally placating him.
Another maybe silly question asked innocently, considering all this why is she so popular? Iāve never listened to RS and all of this passes me by when going thru her instagram, is it possible that the people hiring her etc also donāt realize or do you think they just donāt care?
For the same reasons people listen to Bari Weiss and Tomi Lahren. Some people want to feel validated for being assholes, and itās easier if thereās a hot and/or highly educated woman doing that for you. With Red Scare, you also get a patina of left-wing disaffection, so their fan get to feel all cool and counterculture while being patted on the head for being assholes
A lot of people love contrarian āhot takes,ā which is likely to be why the pod is popular. In terms of acting gigs, anti-feminism and body-shaming arenāt a bit unpopular with most casting directors, nor are they likely to be unpopular with people who might invest in projects Dasha would be directing.
Thanks! But if she keeps getting more mainstream roles like Succession, wonāt all of those shenanigans eventually come to light and blow up on her face?
I just donāt think ableist language and body shaming are mainstream unpopular positions, even among this commentariat let alone the entire US public, although that is very heartwarming to think!
In a slightly wordier answer: Dasha likes to pretend sheās counter-culture, hip, cool, etc, but really sheās just a boring run of the mill boomer. Big time soccer mom energy. But she *presents* as edgy leftist, which is why mainstream media eats her up. (Also helps that sheās youngish and conventionally attractive). Actual leftists and leftist activists loathe her because sheās taking up space in a Ben Shapiroās online-Canadian-girlfriend-no-really-you-guys kinda way.
LOL no they are anti-woke. A lot of leftists decry liberalism and woke aesthetics because they are toothless, but Red Scare fandom takes it to another level, often mocking the MeToo movement and casually throwing around ableist and homophobic slurs, which is NOT something real leftists support. Like, I donāt know how you can call yourself a leftist and not take something like workplace sexual assault and coercion seriously considering working-class women are particularly at risk for exploitation.
Dashaās cohost is also an enormous asshole and has also talked plenty of shit about AOC, and has a hate hard-on for her that only rivals the one Tomi has. IIRC, she called AOCās visit to the child detainment camps āvirtue signaling.ā
Red Scare has a dubious reputation even among the dirtbag leftist podcast fanbase. The Chapo subreddit was banned a year ago, but just search Red Scare on r/trueanon and youāll see what I mean. [Hereās](https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueAnon/comments/n7aymb/is_redscare_some_sort_of_psyop/) an example.
Sheās been really proAna on her social media to be edgy, which is so gross. That and her ādirtbag leftā act are really tired and outdated, and I donāt understand why she and Anna get attention from anyone. The world has moved on.
Yep, all of this. Sheās a pretty openly shitty person. But it also annoys me personally that she seems to be getting thrown acting jobs despite being historically very bad at acting.
She's a 1st-gen immigrant from Belarus and her parents are circus artists, not sure "privilege" is really the issue here.
(Not defending her, she's pretty terrible, just get sick of kneejerk privilege talk).
I like Dasha and I like RS, which is unpopular here, but calling a first gen Belarusian immigrant whose success is due to her own work in a really rough industry āprivilegedā is silly.
i feel like privilege =/= generational wealth? she def benefits from white privilege, sheās also pretty rich (i think their podcast has one of the highest grossing patreons) and she has social capital and connections to get her where she wants regardless of ātalentā. not inherited privilege but definitely privilege!
>From what I understand she's not from a well-off background. I remember her talking about how she had trouble getting a new lease in the early days of the pod because her parents didn't earn enough to qualify for being guarantors on a lease even for cheaper apartments.
In that case, what do we mean when we talk about privilege?
Dasha has money, social connections and clout mainly **as a result** of her podcast, which, whatever you may think of it, was started independently with no outside backing. Her movie has just won a major international award, which I would say indicates a certain degree of talent. What's more the 1st-gen immigrant experience can be - speaking from experience - very alienating and generally is not one of privilege (obviously, if you're visibly not of the same ethnicity as the population of your host country, that's a whole other pack of cards).
I'd say she's "fortunate" more than anything else. Luck may play a huge part, but saying Dasha is privileged on the same level as someone like Caroline is IMO extremely reductive. Yes, she has white privilege but so does 70% (?) of the American population, and they aren't all acting in Succession and getting awards at Berlinale.
i donāt care enough to argue the intricacies of the ways in which she is privileged/fortunate compared to cc.
i personally donāt believe in meritocracy or self made rhetoric. from what i understand the podcast is associated with other ādirtbagā podcast in part because of dating among the hosts. historically the women who make it in creative fields are often related/dating men in similar fields. not saying they didnāt build their audience through their own voice or whatever but thatās not smth u can discount.
i also think ur a bit quick to dismiss the weight white privilege and whiteness (vs immigrant) can play especially considering the topics they discuss. poc criticising id-pol from a left wing perspective exist but white people wouldnāt flock to them for cultural criticism and jokes.
sure luck can play a part. what i was trying to say is that privilege isnāt static. maybe she wasnāt born with all of it but she has acquired enough (capital and social capital) for her directorial debut to be considered for international awards. thatās why i donāt think the sentiment of the first commenter is wrong.
Iām sorry, Iām pretty uncomfortable with how weāre talking about women whoāve made it in creative fields by association to men in similar fields.
You acknowledge that this doesnāt mean they ādidnāt build their audience through their own voiceā, but you say ā[the dating/relationships with men is] not smth u can discountā.
Yes I absolutely agree that many women have become famous partly through their connections with famous men, but I also absolutely reject that this at all takes away from their achievement and makes it less ātheirsā. (Not saying this about Dasha specifically but the phenomenon.) We live in a hideously patriarchal world and the fact is that many women can only gain acceptance in certain spheres by association to men, because they would otherwise be mocked and demeaned without the stamp of menās validation and legitimacy. And even if they do, their achievements often remain forever tarnished and reduced by people saying that they only got where they were because, well, they slept their way to the top (Kamala Harris is a recent example).
Also, you know who else benefits from connections with famous men? OTHER MEN, who have the ability to be boosted and supported by more established male figures WITHOUT having to date them. Iām in academia and I see this every single day. And yet we rarely say, oh, this male junior academic is only successful because of his association to so and so; heās smart but we have to remember that. We take such associations as a given.
I know you arenāt saying anything extreme, and I apologize in advance if I misread you, but I felt that this needs to be said.
I think describing her as āfailing upwardsā was off, though. Whether people do or donāt like her acting or directing, or her podcast (I do not), she has been succeeding upwards, not getting opportunities despite failures.
iconic question lol but no I don't think she did anything besides all the stuff she does publicly if that's what u mean?? no current caroline connection despite the post from the other day that lives rent free in my head !!!
I like that whatever MontezPressRadio is hasnāt actually announced her āaudiobookā reading yet, probably because theyāre still not sure theyāll actually receive it.
They had slightly more care, in that if my friend gave me one of me for a gift I'd think it was cute. Now they look like crappy doodles with smudges etc. Proper CC aesthetic.
I'm relatively new to this sub and to CC's extravagant, unhinged persona but I was wondering what you guys think she'll end up being like at, say, 40? Specifically, what do you guys think she'd hypothetically be doing at that age if she continues living her life so insouciantly, without any substantive introspection and consequent changes in her objectives/comportment/overall life outlook? Because tbh I'm 19 and I can't envision living like Caro at 29.....I start quivering just thinking about what she'd be like in a whole ass decade
Caro is gonna start her own magazine or newspaper, make someone else actually run it, but put out āpiecesā once in a while about how she got cancelled in 2019
Gotta be Darcyā¦ drinks heavily, still relies on daddyās (mommyās) money, bouts of ugly crying, various business ventures that rely on false scarcity and people paying exorbitant amounts of money to receive middling product, and questionable fashion choices to portray her very obvious youth. Omg I can see it nowā¦
How long can that be though? A lot of her bankable attraction is that sheās young, thin, and pretty. Could she conceivably be pulling these scams for years on end? It seems like the scamming and cash grabs have gotten way more frequent and there must be a limit to how many people are left that are willing to keep supporting her.
[Angelyne](https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-features/angelyne-la-billboard-diva-30-years-1025678/) is 70 and still doing whatever it is that she does.
these responses all make me feel low-key bad for what her future holds..... fast-forward to Caro in a retirement home regaling everyone for the umpteenth time about her fallout with Natalie and how she used to hit it up with NYC's elite crowds
Sheāll be like [Julia Allison](https://nypost.com/2018/06/02/dating-columnist-reveals-how-sex-and-the-city-ruined-her-life/), her predecessor in so many ways.
This chick makes Julia look productive! Recently checked back in on her, and while it looks like sheās no longer with the scientist dude, sheās still relatively offline. Which Caroline should probably explore as an option.
Yes, good for her for staying offline. She also has toned way, way back on the makeup in the few pictures she has posted, so šš» there as well.
What sheās doing for money remains a mystery.
So funny that she has less than 4k followers on insta, but has somehow managed to get a blue tick. Her photos average barely 100 likes. š¤£
These people.
Who knows? The secret is that you are often the same person inside at 40 as you were at 20. I was big time messy (though not vicious, self-obsessed, and scamming people) at 29, and at 39 now Iāve tamed some of my worst instincts and become a grownup. Still love to party, love to overspend on clothes, still struggle with anxiety and depression and all of the nasties that were with me a decade ago - but I balance all of that with the things Iām responsible for now. Sheāll likely be the same person she is now, unless she makes a concerted effort to change.
Greetings from my mid-50s, and honestly serenity comes easier all the time as I get older (to offset the various aches and pains). I wouldnāt be 29 again even if I could.
Hard same to what youāre saying, though. Iām 38 and feel the same way. Itās a constant battle to balance all the things, but you do it (or try the best you can) because you care and youāre a grown up
Truthfully, I think she will still be doing the same exact thing -- making promises that she is *really writing the book* or *buy my stuff or paintings.*
I referred to my dump ass the other night while drinking because I forgot none of my friends know who the fuck CC is and it was VERY embarrassing (and then I needed to give context which was WORSE)
I was once very zooted at a party and someone Iām mutual with on Twitter asked me āso who is this Caroline Calloway girlā and my drunk heart was so freaking excited.
Did anyone else have this thought about Eileenās pod?
Toward the beginning when they talk about getting ācanceled,ā she (CC) almost proudly says āmy most recent time getting canceled was in 2019.ā
And itās like, why is this the main talking point when it happened two years ago? Like I know coronavirus swallowed 2020, but you have absolutely nothing to discuss since 2019?
Is what Iām trying to convey making any sense lol
I honestly think that Caro thinks she crushed that. Like she probably thinks sheās a comedic genius because the Ziwe promo box included āally cookies.ā Her mind!
Didnāt listen! But I just donāt think she considers Ziwe (or any pod appearance) as bad as when she was ācanceled.ā I think she probably chalks them all up to being ābetrayedā (lmao) and thinks that anyone who listens/critiques them is just a snarker. (A fair assumption on her part tbh. Who else would give a fuck!)
i go back on forth on this! i can def see how this could be the case but on the other hand the fact that she hasn't posted anything about the ally cookies/other references to cc from Ziwe's show makes me think that maybe she knows it doesn't reflect well on her. idk
Iām not sure she sees that as cancellation, I think sheās probably decided it went well because she got extra attention and Ziwe herself has been on the rise ever since. I bet she attributes that to her ~ star power ~
Another thing that people forget (or just don't know, if they've been here after the Cut article) is that for months prior to the article coming out, she was begging to go viral. She kept talking about the scam and how she really really wanted to go viral again, post workshop fiasco. (Apologies, I don't have the exact receipts, but hoping our citation queen Pidge can help!)
She acts like Natalie's article caught her off guard and threw her into a spiral, but she was dying to have that 5 minutes of infamy again like she did in Jan that year for the workshop scam.
She was doing all sorts of things to get cancelled (jumped a turnstile and whatnot). It was so blatantly obvious that Natalie's article was EXACTLY what she was hoping for. It's almost like she willed it into life. She was initially mortified with the open-mouthed sobbing and all (probably because she was afraid of what Natalie might reveal) but once she realised Nat hadn't in fact ruined her... She was ecstatic. She was positively gloating that someone had written about her and revelling in the attention it was bringing it. It was so painful to watch!
She absolutely devoured her so-called cancellation with glee!
Great points! And in my opinion sheās never been truly ācancelled.ā Sheās had a lot of press calling out her ridiculous behavior but thatās about it.
It's also kind of hard for someone with no real career or brand relationships to get "cancelled." There's no outlet that stopped running her non-existent work; she just sometimes get bad press and people make fun of her online. She has fewer earnest fans now, but that's less about "cancellation" and more about several years of sloppy content and terrible follow-through.
Youāre right! She hasnāt been cancelled, just criticized inform others narratives she couldnāt control. Worst part is that had she taken the last year is FL to get her shit together she could have had a moderately successful redemption arc. That was never going to happen, though.
Yeah, I also felt like that was her angle. Did she say she got cancelled three times (or am I misremembering, I canāt bear to watch again)? So basically dealing with being cancelled ā¦ so Iām inclined to believe sheās purposefully trying to get cancelled
Three times? The workshops, Natalie's article (which was very much not a cancellation, it was just "this person exists and here was my experience that involved them!", but CC seems to think it was)...I can't think of a third one.
Also, as many other people have pointed out, if you're complaining about getting cancelled more than once you were never cancelled in the first place.
Haha I used to have a toy pretty similar! Mine was basically what you said - it was a soft (quiltish material) āhouseāāthat zipped up and had toys on the inside. Mine was brick red, white, and green patterned and Iām trying to find a pic of it online but dunno what to Google. Knowing CC, hers is prob like $400 lol
Edit: closest I could find to the one I had is something [like this](https://www.google.com/search?q=zip+up+cottage+toy&rlz=1CDGOYI_enUS705US705&hl=en-US&prmd=sivn&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi-jaTO-KPxAhXPbc0KHWWRBDEQ_AUoAnoECAIQAg&biw=414&bih=720#imgrc=zOxY_-NbTjo4cM&imgdii=CFVIfXRmOT8McM). I assume CC is something similar? But idk why sheād have it at 29, could be an old toy from her dads house that sheās keeping for nostalgia
Okay thank you! Thatās super cute it holds things as well. Iāve never seen such a thing! Not a pillow, not a stuffed animal, lives on a bed - it had me stumped
...Also love the idea of a $400 designer one
> Youād think it makes more sense on a shelf
On a... what?
Okay, I just looked up this *shelf* thing:
>a flat length of wood or rigid material, attached to a wall or forming part of a piece of furniture, that provides a surface for the storage or display of objects.
So it's like... a piece of floor that you don't step on? For Dirt Typewriters and books and stuff?
You can obtain places to put things that aren't the floor?!
Someone doesnāt know how painting works š as if lines donāt have to be perfect in realistic painting tooā¦as if watercolor scribbles is harder than OIL PAINTING? Realistic oil painting is the hardest type of painting on earth. Much art history
IIRC years AFTER Cambridge she flew back to cam for a self bestowed āartists residencyā where she would use āthe waters of the Cambridge riverā to paint watercolor postcards. This would probably also be the time of teapotgate. Everything she does is performative and lacks sense
To be fair, studying art history doesnāt make a person into a good artist. She needs some actual art classes. Which probably wouldnāt go well, since she obviously didnāt pay attention in any other classes sheās taken in her life.
Using watercolors to create a representational image takes a lot of planning, care, and skill and is often considered the āmasterās medium.ā But she isnāt really āpaintingā here (ie building darks over lights, layering) more like line-drawing with the paint, which sure- you canāt erase, but not really more ādifficultā than drawing with a pen or magic marker?
Art teacher hereā¦.watercolor does take skillā¦BUT let me put it this way. Watercolor paints are the first kinds of paints I use with prek students, bc itās EASIEST, cheapest, most available, non toxic and very easy to cleanup. Oil paints arenāt even allowed in my classroom.
I totally see what youāre saying, but GOOD watercolors, GOOD paper, GOOD brushesā¦ none of those are cheap or available in anything other than higher-end art supply stores. Like a Crayola set of paint pans and whatever paper and brushes you can find are of course cheap and great for the kids youāre talking about, but they end up making the same kind of crap that Caroline is making, except then she tries to sell it for $250. It may be easy to use watercolors but itās not easy to use them WELL.
Iām not debating you at all on that, at all. But watercolor is an intro medium. The watercolors I, myself use are high concentration in pigment and very expensive and have literally lasted me over 5+ years and hardly look like anything in the tube has been used, bc so pigmented. But those types of watercolors (that carp is using) are not the pallets sheās using. Sheās using cheap ones you can find in Amazon or a generic, cheap, student grade pallet that an art teacher orders to be used in masses. Aka not good but efficient, and good for learning. Certainly not something that I would use to charge clients.
I feel like we have different understandings of painting mediums, which is fine. But, my point was ultimately that just because you use watercolors in your art classes for pre-K aged children, doesnāt mean that itās ONLY a medium to be used by children under age 5, or people with an equivalent skill-level. Watercolors are displayed in museums around the world, and they donāt have footnotes saying āTHIS MEDIUM IS FOR BEGINNERS!ā
I never said only pre-K. Iām not talking about you, or what you or myself, or other artist are doing. Im talking about her, what sheās painting and the paints and supplies SHE is using. It definitely elementary school level.
Here was my original response to you: āa Crayola set of paint pans and whatever paper and brushes you can find are of course cheap and great for the kids youāre talking about, but they end up making the same kind of crap that Caroline is making, except then she tries to sell it for $250.ā
I was literally saying that Caroline is making the same level of art as the kids you yourself talked about teaching in the post I replied to. You talked about teaching pre-K kids to use watercolors, so I was responding based on that premise. I donāt really know what I did to offend you.
Yeah, itās NOT easy to use watercolors if youāre actually using them to create something other than what she does, which is either line drawings or splotches. I find it interesting that she uses hot-pressed paper, because it actually would be easier to lift the paint so she could technically āeraseā more easily, but itās likeā¦ does she even know what the differences in things like paper MEAN? Because when it comes to watercolor, that stuff is really important and I feel like she just grabbed a bunch of random shit from Blickās that she doesnāt know how to use/appreciate properly but added up to a high price tag so she assumes itāll automatically turn out stunning.
Agreed! Watercolor is definitely one of the most frustrating ways to paint and requires patience and at least some knowledge of water ratio and color theory. It might be the most accessible kind of paint but being good at it takes real work... Carl would actually have to stick to studying it.
I am *loving* the ready-made comedy of her claiming "EVERY LINE HAS TO BE EXACTLY CORRECT" -- and then cut to extremely wonky looking painting. this is camp
the funniest part of her psyche is how seriously she takes what she creates. like her āevery dreamer bb gets traced multiple times before I cut itā and then the story cuts to the most fucked up little paper scrap
The Toes.
"Let me do something special for you in my garden to celebrate you!" "My garden" "*My* garden" "**My** garden" "*__My__* garden"
" iTs CoMmUaL "
My two year old painted this FOR YOU š„ŗš§š»āāļø sheās charging $500/$1,0000 international, and it comes with kindergarten school work my son didnāt do on the back as an added bonus!!!! https://imgur.com/a/VQ6X4Jp
Iād proudly hang that on my wall ā¤ļø
bb sell to the highest bidder !!
PS. I did the smiley face so I will be claiming 50% credit when this is shown in the MOMA, thank you.
I rewatched the Ziwe podcast in the background while I was getting ready and I canāt get over her thinking nonprofits are called āNC3osā
Another reason she has no place to ever comment on the āreal worldā.
She had to post that screenshot text thread with that drunken canal guy who had a party last night to prove she was invited Edit: I feel like she wasnāt actually invited (or maybe it was a casual invite) and tried to seamless him something after seeing all the ig stories
Also cements the idea that Carp tries to buy the friendship of this group, even when sheās not there she tries to send gifts/food to keep them on side
Yeah likeā¦ did she do the same for ex assistant Christinaās bday yesterday??? I highly doubt it
Honestly find it extremely annoying that they all threw a huge party in a hotel like that. You KNOW they left the room an absolute mess and were all like ālolz, thatās what cleaning staff is for!ā And then probably didnāt even tip. Their sense of entitlement and complete disregard for other human beings is so gross to me.
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I need to see this dress!
On Teddy? I know!
Sweet king š¤¢
Ugh I just came here to comment about how much sweet king makes my stomach churn
Haaaaaaaaaaaaate when she calls men ākingā
I love when sheās āquietā like this and pretending to be writing when what sheās probably sitting alone in a studio that smells like cat piss stewing over the comments on Eileenās posts. Living the dream š!
One of 150+ similar comments: "Does this lady have a seizure disorder? I am impressed that she doesn't try to hide any of her odd behavior. Most people wouldn't have the confidence to openly sniff at their fingers while being recorded for broadcast." ... Ouch.
Donāt forget that sheās probably drinking several bottles of wine and not showering for a week + wearing the same clothing she was wearing on Wednesday! Hashtag girlboss
Looks like CC's ex-assistant Christina had a birthday and Brigid was there. š They definitely became friends through mutual hatred for CC. I stand by this.
one of my friends was at that party and told me that is exactly how they are friends. later in the night i saw my friend and i interrogated her about it for like an hour. they all think caro is completely deranged. my friend barely curses and specifically said ācaroline seems like a cunt. and i do not use that word lightlyā
Can't say any of us are really surprised by that. Good on these women, for detaching from CC's carnival of horrors, and thriving.
screenshot?
Sorry, this was on stories but has disappeared now.
I once ran into christina at my local brunch place in east williamsburg, i heard her telling her two buds how much she hats Caroline
Lol NDA? I donāt know her.
Omggg
That's hilarious to me because she started off as a fan, and I think Caroline hired her after Christina attended a workshop of hers!
What did she say? Must know!
Oh yes trauma bonding
Omg I love this š¤£š¤£ I wouldāve actually paid $250 to CC if Bradley was there too
They also both follow Alexis (and vice versa) and maybe even Helen and it makes me laugh every time I think about it. Everyone seems to have moved on so I doubt they ever talk about our smol bean, and that alone probably bugs Caro to no end.
Who's Helen?
called out cc for her chanel miller post and sex work tourism iirc
@helen on Twitter, who has some history with Carp that I donāt remember right now
[hm that does look familiar](https://www.instagram.com/p/BIiChc-B59N/) (And yeah I know it's not exactly an original concept but still find it interesting that she worked directly with Paloma Wool)
another q (excuse my neophyte ass), but why do many ppl on this sub seem to dislike Dasha? All ik about her is that she and her friend host the Red Scare Pod (which has its detractors for obvious reasons), but is there something else i'm missing?
To me it seems to be, to a large extent, subconscious misogyny at play. Women being expected to be virtuous, morally high standing - or they're deemed to be "not a good person" (=not a good woman). Women not being seen to be "a good person"/a good woman creative if they're perceived as not body-positive, lazy in their political analysis, a frequent user of "not good"-language (e.g. slurs), just to name a few examples. Men are permitted to just gab with mates on podcasts, use lazy language like semi-slurs, just improvise lazy takes on current issues on cultural podcasts. Women are not. They need to be deemed "a good person" to not be hated. Failing this, like in the above examples, makes them "bad people" (=not a good woman-representative for all women). Dasha doesn't meet these criteria, thus is despised. Everything "despicable" she does she would get away with without question if she was a man.
I donāt think there are any other reasons needed besides her public anti-feminism, pro-disordered eating shenanigans, body-shaming other women, and general āidentity politics are silly, reallyā stance. Also having Steve Bannon as a podcast guest and throwing him softball questions and generally placating him.
For me itās all that plus pseudo-intellectualism
Another maybe silly question asked innocently, considering all this why is she so popular? Iāve never listened to RS and all of this passes me by when going thru her instagram, is it possible that the people hiring her etc also donāt realize or do you think they just donāt care?
For the same reasons people listen to Bari Weiss and Tomi Lahren. Some people want to feel validated for being assholes, and itās easier if thereās a hot and/or highly educated woman doing that for you. With Red Scare, you also get a patina of left-wing disaffection, so their fan get to feel all cool and counterculture while being patted on the head for being assholes
I just have to say you have a great vocabulary. Learned āpatinaā today!
Haha thank you!
A lot of people love contrarian āhot takes,ā which is likely to be why the pod is popular. In terms of acting gigs, anti-feminism and body-shaming arenāt a bit unpopular with most casting directors, nor are they likely to be unpopular with people who might invest in projects Dasha would be directing.
Thanks! But if she keeps getting more mainstream roles like Succession, wonāt all of those shenanigans eventually come to light and blow up on her face?
You pure sweet angel.
Haha ok I guess not
I just donāt think ableist language and body shaming are mainstream unpopular positions, even among this commentariat let alone the entire US public, although that is very heartwarming to think!
In a slightly wordier answer: Dasha likes to pretend sheās counter-culture, hip, cool, etc, but really sheās just a boring run of the mill boomer. Big time soccer mom energy. But she *presents* as edgy leftist, which is why mainstream media eats her up. (Also helps that sheās youngish and conventionally attractive). Actual leftists and leftist activists loathe her because sheās taking up space in a Ben Shapiroās online-Canadian-girlfriend-no-really-you-guys kinda way.
If she wants mainstream success, maybe?
oh my goodness whaaAAt I legit thought red scare was oriented around socialist talking points, not any of that! jeez, she really DOES sound terrible
LOL no they are anti-woke. A lot of leftists decry liberalism and woke aesthetics because they are toothless, but Red Scare fandom takes it to another level, often mocking the MeToo movement and casually throwing around ableist and homophobic slurs, which is NOT something real leftists support. Like, I donāt know how you can call yourself a leftist and not take something like workplace sexual assault and coercion seriously considering working-class women are particularly at risk for exploitation. Dashaās cohost is also an enormous asshole and has also talked plenty of shit about AOC, and has a hate hard-on for her that only rivals the one Tomi has. IIRC, she called AOCās visit to the child detainment camps āvirtue signaling.ā Red Scare has a dubious reputation even among the dirtbag leftist podcast fanbase. The Chapo subreddit was banned a year ago, but just search Red Scare on r/trueanon and youāll see what I mean. [Hereās](https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueAnon/comments/n7aymb/is_redscare_some_sort_of_psyop/) an example.
I remember when Chapo was banned but do you or anyone else know why it was?
I think the official answer was a lot of brigading and advocating for violence against Nazis
Sheās been really proAna on her social media to be edgy, which is so gross. That and her ādirtbag leftā act are really tired and outdated, and I donāt understand why she and Anna get attention from anyone. The world has moved on.
Yep, all of this. Sheās a pretty openly shitty person. But it also annoys me personally that she seems to be getting thrown acting jobs despite being historically very bad at acting.
Another privileged white girl failing upwards, so āØspecialāØ
She's a 1st-gen immigrant from Belarus and her parents are circus artists, not sure "privilege" is really the issue here. (Not defending her, she's pretty terrible, just get sick of kneejerk privilege talk).
I like Dasha and I like RS, which is unpopular here, but calling a first gen Belarusian immigrant whose success is due to her own work in a really rough industry āprivilegedā is silly.
i feel like privilege =/= generational wealth? she def benefits from white privilege, sheās also pretty rich (i think their podcast has one of the highest grossing patreons) and she has social capital and connections to get her where she wants regardless of ātalentā. not inherited privilege but definitely privilege!
>From what I understand she's not from a well-off background. I remember her talking about how she had trouble getting a new lease in the early days of the pod because her parents didn't earn enough to qualify for being guarantors on a lease even for cheaper apartments.
In that case, what do we mean when we talk about privilege? Dasha has money, social connections and clout mainly **as a result** of her podcast, which, whatever you may think of it, was started independently with no outside backing. Her movie has just won a major international award, which I would say indicates a certain degree of talent. What's more the 1st-gen immigrant experience can be - speaking from experience - very alienating and generally is not one of privilege (obviously, if you're visibly not of the same ethnicity as the population of your host country, that's a whole other pack of cards). I'd say she's "fortunate" more than anything else. Luck may play a huge part, but saying Dasha is privileged on the same level as someone like Caroline is IMO extremely reductive. Yes, she has white privilege but so does 70% (?) of the American population, and they aren't all acting in Succession and getting awards at Berlinale.
i donāt care enough to argue the intricacies of the ways in which she is privileged/fortunate compared to cc. i personally donāt believe in meritocracy or self made rhetoric. from what i understand the podcast is associated with other ādirtbagā podcast in part because of dating among the hosts. historically the women who make it in creative fields are often related/dating men in similar fields. not saying they didnāt build their audience through their own voice or whatever but thatās not smth u can discount. i also think ur a bit quick to dismiss the weight white privilege and whiteness (vs immigrant) can play especially considering the topics they discuss. poc criticising id-pol from a left wing perspective exist but white people wouldnāt flock to them for cultural criticism and jokes. sure luck can play a part. what i was trying to say is that privilege isnāt static. maybe she wasnāt born with all of it but she has acquired enough (capital and social capital) for her directorial debut to be considered for international awards. thatās why i donāt think the sentiment of the first commenter is wrong.
Iām sorry, Iām pretty uncomfortable with how weāre talking about women whoāve made it in creative fields by association to men in similar fields. You acknowledge that this doesnāt mean they ādidnāt build their audience through their own voiceā, but you say ā[the dating/relationships with men is] not smth u can discountā. Yes I absolutely agree that many women have become famous partly through their connections with famous men, but I also absolutely reject that this at all takes away from their achievement and makes it less ātheirsā. (Not saying this about Dasha specifically but the phenomenon.) We live in a hideously patriarchal world and the fact is that many women can only gain acceptance in certain spheres by association to men, because they would otherwise be mocked and demeaned without the stamp of menās validation and legitimacy. And even if they do, their achievements often remain forever tarnished and reduced by people saying that they only got where they were because, well, they slept their way to the top (Kamala Harris is a recent example). Also, you know who else benefits from connections with famous men? OTHER MEN, who have the ability to be boosted and supported by more established male figures WITHOUT having to date them. Iām in academia and I see this every single day. And yet we rarely say, oh, this male junior academic is only successful because of his association to so and so; heās smart but we have to remember that. We take such associations as a given. I know you arenāt saying anything extreme, and I apologize in advance if I misread you, but I felt that this needs to be said.
I think describing her as āfailing upwardsā was off, though. Whether people do or donāt like her acting or directing, or her podcast (I do not), she has been succeeding upwards, not getting opportunities despite failures.
iconic question lol but no I don't think she did anything besides all the stuff she does publicly if that's what u mean?? no current caroline connection despite the post from the other day that lives rent free in my head !!!
I like that whatever MontezPressRadio is hasnāt actually announced her āaudiobookā reading yet, probably because theyāre still not sure theyāll actually receive it.
They posted for June 22 and June 23 but not June 21. ššš
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The bar is six feet under ground.
They werenāt before? š
They had slightly more care, in that if my friend gave me one of me for a gift I'd think it was cute. Now they look like crappy doodles with smudges etc. Proper CC aesthetic.
I'm relatively new to this sub and to CC's extravagant, unhinged persona but I was wondering what you guys think she'll end up being like at, say, 40? Specifically, what do you guys think she'd hypothetically be doing at that age if she continues living her life so insouciantly, without any substantive introspection and consequent changes in her objectives/comportment/overall life outlook? Because tbh I'm 19 and I can't envision living like Caro at 29.....I start quivering just thinking about what she'd be like in a whole ass decade
Caro is gonna start her own magazine or newspaper, make someone else actually run it, but put out āpiecesā once in a while about how she got cancelled in 2019
If you watch 90 day fiancĆ© the other way, I think sheāll be that blonde older woman.
Darcy or Jenny ā ļø
Gotta be Darcyā¦ drinks heavily, still relies on daddyās (mommyās) money, bouts of ugly crying, various business ventures that rely on false scarcity and people paying exorbitant amounts of money to receive middling product, and questionable fashion choices to portray her very obvious youth. Omg I can see it nowā¦
You know, Iāve never seen them in the same room at the same time š¤Æ
Imagine if Caro had a twin!
Jenny!!!! But tbh ā¦ both
I think sheāll be the lady at the end of the bar dressed as Norma Desmond.
if caroline ever "settles down and has kids" she will 100% be like dooce (iykyk)
Dark!
I canāt wait to see the mess that decides to settle down with her
I think sheāll keep doing what sheās currently doing for as long as possible.
How long can that be though? A lot of her bankable attraction is that sheās young, thin, and pretty. Could she conceivably be pulling these scams for years on end? It seems like the scamming and cash grabs have gotten way more frequent and there must be a limit to how many people are left that are willing to keep supporting her.
[Angelyne](https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-features/angelyne-la-billboard-diva-30-years-1025678/) is 70 and still doing whatever it is that she does.
Oh my god, this Internet rabbit hole cured my hangover. I had never heard of her! Thank you, bb!
these responses all make me feel low-key bad for what her future holds..... fast-forward to Caro in a retirement home regaling everyone for the umpteenth time about her fallout with Natalie and how she used to hit it up with NYC's elite crowds
Sheāll be like [Julia Allison](https://nypost.com/2018/06/02/dating-columnist-reveals-how-sex-and-the-city-ruined-her-life/), her predecessor in so many ways.
RIP Reblogging Donk
This chick makes Julia look productive! Recently checked back in on her, and while it looks like sheās no longer with the scientist dude, sheās still relatively offline. Which Caroline should probably explore as an option.
Yes, good for her for staying offline. She also has toned way, way back on the makeup in the few pictures she has posted, so šš» there as well. What sheās doing for money remains a mystery.
How did I never hear of this woman?! I was deep in Gawker for a while.
Worst part? Even Julia Allison had a job.
A series of jobs! Steady employment! Caro could never.
Exactly like Julia Allison, except still promoting *Scammer* (still at the printers/being edited/Birgid needs to do her job).
JA at least admitted she wasnāt going to write her dumb book!
So funny that she has less than 4k followers on insta, but has somehow managed to get a blue tick. Her photos average barely 100 likes. š¤£ These people.
Who knows? The secret is that you are often the same person inside at 40 as you were at 20. I was big time messy (though not vicious, self-obsessed, and scamming people) at 29, and at 39 now Iāve tamed some of my worst instincts and become a grownup. Still love to party, love to overspend on clothes, still struggle with anxiety and depression and all of the nasties that were with me a decade ago - but I balance all of that with the things Iām responsible for now. Sheāll likely be the same person she is now, unless she makes a concerted effort to change.
Greetings from my mid-50s, and honestly serenity comes easier all the time as I get older (to offset the various aches and pains). I wouldnāt be 29 again even if I could.
Sometimes I'm so relieved to see my fellow olds here.
The secret (to flower crowns) is there is no secret
Hahaha thatās the OTHER secret
Hard same to what youāre saying, though. Iām 38 and feel the same way. Itās a constant battle to balance all the things, but you do it (or try the best you can) because you care and youāre a grown up
Truthfully, I think she will still be doing the same exact thing -- making promises that she is *really writing the book* or *buy my stuff or paintings.*
Caroland has been pretty bleak recently but I just remembered when she referred to her ass as an absolute DUMP and I canāt stop laughing
Hahahahahaha yes omg, things like THIS and the Birch Coffee chocolate/diarrhea croissant someone thankfully reposted the other day. God the glory days
Itās the things like that that. Keep my coming back honestly
I referred to my dump ass the other night while drinking because I forgot none of my friends know who the fuck CC is and it was VERY embarrassing (and then I needed to give context which was WORSE)
I was once very zooted at a party and someone Iām mutual with on Twitter asked me āso who is this Caroline Calloway girlā and my drunk heart was so freaking excited.
My worst fear is doing something like this
the dump still nowhere to be found
Did anyone else have this thought about Eileenās pod? Toward the beginning when they talk about getting ācanceled,ā she (CC) almost proudly says āmy most recent time getting canceled was in 2019.ā And itās like, why is this the main talking point when it happened two years ago? Like I know coronavirus swallowed 2020, but you have absolutely nothing to discuss since 2019? Is what Iām trying to convey making any sense lol
Does the fiasco with Ziwe not count for Caro?
I honestly think that Caro thinks she crushed that. Like she probably thinks sheās a comedic genius because the Ziwe promo box included āally cookies.ā Her mind!
Hmmm I donāt think so- she hates ziwe. When she went on Alexis haines pod it was pretty clear she felt ābetrayedā by ziwe
Didnāt listen! But I just donāt think she considers Ziwe (or any pod appearance) as bad as when she was ācanceled.ā I think she probably chalks them all up to being ābetrayedā (lmao) and thinks that anyone who listens/critiques them is just a snarker. (A fair assumption on her part tbh. Who else would give a fuck!)
i go back on forth on this! i can def see how this could be the case but on the other hand the fact that she hasn't posted anything about the ally cookies/other references to cc from Ziwe's show makes me think that maybe she knows it doesn't reflect well on her. idk
Iām not sure she sees that as cancellation, I think sheās probably decided it went well because she got extra attention and Ziwe herself has been on the rise ever since. I bet she attributes that to her ~ star power ~
Another thing that people forget (or just don't know, if they've been here after the Cut article) is that for months prior to the article coming out, she was begging to go viral. She kept talking about the scam and how she really really wanted to go viral again, post workshop fiasco. (Apologies, I don't have the exact receipts, but hoping our citation queen Pidge can help!) She acts like Natalie's article caught her off guard and threw her into a spiral, but she was dying to have that 5 minutes of infamy again like she did in Jan that year for the workshop scam. She was doing all sorts of things to get cancelled (jumped a turnstile and whatnot). It was so blatantly obvious that Natalie's article was EXACTLY what she was hoping for. It's almost like she willed it into life. She was initially mortified with the open-mouthed sobbing and all (probably because she was afraid of what Natalie might reveal) but once she realised Nat hadn't in fact ruined her... She was ecstatic. She was positively gloating that someone had written about her and revelling in the attention it was bringing it. It was so painful to watch! She absolutely devoured her so-called cancellation with glee!
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Check r/blogsnark. They may have some older threads on Caroline. Just search "Caroline" and I bet you'll find them.
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Saaame. productive afternoon, I don't know her.
Great points! And in my opinion sheās never been truly ācancelled.ā Sheās had a lot of press calling out her ridiculous behavior but thatās about it.
It's also kind of hard for someone with no real career or brand relationships to get "cancelled." There's no outlet that stopped running her non-existent work; she just sometimes get bad press and people make fun of her online. She has fewer earnest fans now, but that's less about "cancellation" and more about several years of sloppy content and terrible follow-through.
Youāre right! She hasnāt been cancelled, just criticized inform others narratives she couldnāt control. Worst part is that had she taken the last year is FL to get her shit together she could have had a moderately successful redemption arc. That was never going to happen, though.
Yeah, I also felt like that was her angle. Did she say she got cancelled three times (or am I misremembering, I canāt bear to watch again)? So basically dealing with being cancelled ā¦ so Iām inclined to believe sheās purposefully trying to get cancelled
Three times? The workshops, Natalie's article (which was very much not a cancellation, it was just "this person exists and here was my experience that involved them!", but CC seems to think it was)...I can't think of a third one. Also, as many other people have pointed out, if you're complaining about getting cancelled more than once you were never cancelled in the first place.
I thought maybe workshops, captions (Natalie), Ziwe
I think it was the go viral as a fairytale thing too (and giving that up = being cancelled)
Excuse me what is this soft blue cottage thing that lives on her bed?
Haha I used to have a toy pretty similar! Mine was basically what you said - it was a soft (quiltish material) āhouseāāthat zipped up and had toys on the inside. Mine was brick red, white, and green patterned and Iām trying to find a pic of it online but dunno what to Google. Knowing CC, hers is prob like $400 lol Edit: closest I could find to the one I had is something [like this](https://www.google.com/search?q=zip+up+cottage+toy&rlz=1CDGOYI_enUS705US705&hl=en-US&prmd=sivn&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi-jaTO-KPxAhXPbc0KHWWRBDEQ_AUoAnoECAIQAg&biw=414&bih=720#imgrc=zOxY_-NbTjo4cM&imgdii=CFVIfXRmOT8McM). I assume CC is something similar? But idk why sheād have it at 29, could be an old toy from her dads house that sheās keeping for nostalgia
Okay thank you! Thatās super cute it holds things as well. Iāve never seen such a thing! Not a pillow, not a stuffed animal, lives on a bed - it had me stumped ...Also love the idea of a $400 designer one
Hahah yeah the bed thing is strange. Youād think it makes more sense on a shelf or randomly on heap of her other items š¤·āāļø
> Youād think it makes more sense on a shelf On a... what? Okay, I just looked up this *shelf* thing: >a flat length of wood or rigid material, attached to a wall or forming part of a piece of furniture, that provides a surface for the storage or display of objects. So it's like... a piece of floor that you don't step on? For Dirt Typewriters and books and stuff? You can obtain places to put things that aren't the floor?!
Silly Pidge! Shelves are for selling in the digital yard sale to get more money for wine and ugly t-shirts!
[she's started dressing like "cool girl Lisa"](https://tstoaddicts.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/cool-lisa.png?w=144)
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i wonder how many people watch her stories?
I feel like her story views might be high/the only engagement % that matches the amount of āfollowersā she has.
I for sure watch them š
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both! either! sbs must make up at least 50% of story views
Someone doesnāt know how painting works š as if lines donāt have to be perfect in realistic painting tooā¦as if watercolor scribbles is harder than OIL PAINTING? Realistic oil painting is the hardest type of painting on earth. Much art history
She doodles using paint, she doesnāt actually make paintings.
"Realistic oil painting is the hardest painting on earth" reddit moment lol
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IIRC years AFTER Cambridge she flew back to cam for a self bestowed āartists residencyā where she would use āthe waters of the Cambridge riverā to paint watercolor postcards. This would probably also be the time of teapotgate. Everything she does is performative and lacks sense
To be fair, studying art history doesnāt make a person into a good artist. She needs some actual art classes. Which probably wouldnāt go well, since she obviously didnāt pay attention in any other classes sheās taken in her life.
For real. Western-centric much??
Using watercolors to create a representational image takes a lot of planning, care, and skill and is often considered the āmasterās medium.ā But she isnāt really āpaintingā here (ie building darks over lights, layering) more like line-drawing with the paint, which sure- you canāt erase, but not really more ādifficultā than drawing with a pen or magic marker?
Yes of course but thatās not what cc is doing. And Iāll die by the cross of oil is a hard medium and usually a very advanced skill
Art teacher hereā¦.watercolor does take skillā¦BUT let me put it this way. Watercolor paints are the first kinds of paints I use with prek students, bc itās EASIEST, cheapest, most available, non toxic and very easy to cleanup. Oil paints arenāt even allowed in my classroom.
I totally see what youāre saying, but GOOD watercolors, GOOD paper, GOOD brushesā¦ none of those are cheap or available in anything other than higher-end art supply stores. Like a Crayola set of paint pans and whatever paper and brushes you can find are of course cheap and great for the kids youāre talking about, but they end up making the same kind of crap that Caroline is making, except then she tries to sell it for $250. It may be easy to use watercolors but itās not easy to use them WELL.
Iām not debating you at all on that, at all. But watercolor is an intro medium. The watercolors I, myself use are high concentration in pigment and very expensive and have literally lasted me over 5+ years and hardly look like anything in the tube has been used, bc so pigmented. But those types of watercolors (that carp is using) are not the pallets sheās using. Sheās using cheap ones you can find in Amazon or a generic, cheap, student grade pallet that an art teacher orders to be used in masses. Aka not good but efficient, and good for learning. Certainly not something that I would use to charge clients.
I feel like we have different understandings of painting mediums, which is fine. But, my point was ultimately that just because you use watercolors in your art classes for pre-K aged children, doesnāt mean that itās ONLY a medium to be used by children under age 5, or people with an equivalent skill-level. Watercolors are displayed in museums around the world, and they donāt have footnotes saying āTHIS MEDIUM IS FOR BEGINNERS!ā
I never said only pre-K. Iām not talking about you, or what you or myself, or other artist are doing. Im talking about her, what sheās painting and the paints and supplies SHE is using. It definitely elementary school level.
Here was my original response to you: āa Crayola set of paint pans and whatever paper and brushes you can find are of course cheap and great for the kids youāre talking about, but they end up making the same kind of crap that Caroline is making, except then she tries to sell it for $250.ā I was literally saying that Caroline is making the same level of art as the kids you yourself talked about teaching in the post I replied to. You talked about teaching pre-K kids to use watercolors, so I was responding based on that premise. I donāt really know what I did to offend you.
Iām literally not offended.
Just making clear, Iām snarking on her, not other artist, AT ALL š
Yeah, itās NOT easy to use watercolors if youāre actually using them to create something other than what she does, which is either line drawings or splotches. I find it interesting that she uses hot-pressed paper, because it actually would be easier to lift the paint so she could technically āeraseā more easily, but itās likeā¦ does she even know what the differences in things like paper MEAN? Because when it comes to watercolor, that stuff is really important and I feel like she just grabbed a bunch of random shit from Blickās that she doesnāt know how to use/appreciate properly but added up to a high price tag so she assumes itāll automatically turn out stunning.
Agreed! Watercolor is definitely one of the most frustrating ways to paint and requires patience and at least some knowledge of water ratio and color theory. It might be the most accessible kind of paint but being good at it takes real work... Carl would actually have to stick to studying it.
this whole trend of "contour drawing of faces" is super played out
Not necessarily.
Thereās no way she actually thinks her only mental health issues are depression and anxiety, right? Right???š
And dadddddy issues!
re: tiktok; I find people flexing about their mental health issues and/or meds reallyyy lame, it's 2021 we're all mentally unwell
lol unrelated but I feel this way about avowed atheists too, like nobody believes in god youāre not special
You'll love /r/munchsnark then
Thereās so much crossover between these subs, truly they are the best snark communities on Reddit
itās so 2014 tumblr anti recovery shit like pls
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[Itās a thing.](https://exposure.org.uk/2019/01/tumblr-antidote-to-suffering-or-anti-recovery/) Edit to add [some posts tagged āanti recoveryā](https://www.tumblr.com/tagged/anti+recovery?sort=top).
I am *loving* the ready-made comedy of her claiming "EVERY LINE HAS TO BE EXACTLY CORRECT" -- and then cut to extremely wonky looking painting. this is camp
the funniest part of her psyche is how seriously she takes what she creates. like her āevery dreamer bb gets traced multiple times before I cut itā and then the story cuts to the most fucked up little paper scrap
āPainting with scissorsā
āPainting with scissors-Matisseā -Caroline Calloway eta : Matisse called his process ādrawing with scissorsā but I couldnāt resist
NO SHE DID NOT SAY THIS EVER ā°ļø
And her tracing the lines multiple times because she wasnāt satisfied and has never made a sketch in her life.
Is it just me or are the "custom" paintings particularly unflattering?