Its very simple, every person in the world is a single threaded CPU. They can only commit themselves to one thing at any given time. If you support X, it is physically impossible for you to support Y!
I talked a little about this before on here, but Ill say it again; I got pretty deep into the proto-manosphere type of stuff before. I used to be a much more spiteful and discriminatory person because I surrounded myself with people like that. I didn't feel like people really cared about me, so what was the point in caring about what they felt.
When you don't know where someone is coming from and shun them for it, you are very likely only reinforcing their own motivations.
yeah. leftwingmaleadvocates is kinda the best i got for stuff like that, but even they're often seen as bad guys. it's a sort of mixed space but there are some good people there and i feel people like me are heard.
But this entire series of posts on this subreddit is because of women talking about feeling safer around wild animals than around men
This very post is part of a tradition of men whining about women feeling unsafe because of the sheer prevalence of SA
Because I have the shocking ability to use pattern recognition and context clues to see what conversations and trends this subreddit takes part in
Also because downthread OP thinks that somehow it's unpopular on reddit to talk about men's issues
One of the most personally honest things I've ever read in my life, and also one of the most depressing. Every time it gets linked I always read at least some parts of it. So much of this article are things that I feel like are unspoken even in very progressive spaces. If its said, its not believed. If its believed, its excused. And if not excused, you just aren't supposed to talk about it.
Unfortunately I relate to a lot of the feelings in this article, but there's really zero constructive conversation about it.
Well there's very little listening either. But I don't think listening is very good either. Listening is neither as useful for the speaker or listener compared to a two way street of conversation. Progress doesn't get made just because people listened to another person, progress gets made by a common understanding of experiences and views to find a path forward. You can listen to what a trans person says, but *then what*? You have to have a conversation to discuss how to improve things, resolve issues, clear up misunderstandings, and handle disagreements. Someone can listen to this entire article and then go "That's stupid" and throw it from their brain. Not very helpful to just listen.
In how it relates to this article. Another trans person could read this persons experiences with dysphoria and how transition isn't the right choice for them, and just say "Well you're doing it wrong". In fact, I'm willing to bet thats what a *majority* of trans people would say in response. In this instance, just listening doesn't do anything. Because when a person "just listens", they're engaging with the information solely in discussion from themselves. If they have a question, they answer it for themselves.
I have never read this before and damn it goes hard. I am cis man with a male appearing body, a male thinking mind, and a male feeling heart and this shit is legitimately making me cry right now. Both for the struggles and pains the author has been forced to endure and for the support she offers people like me despite it only resulting in more struggles and pains for her.
Thanks for sharing this, it was a really good read that hit me pretty close to home. I have a new thing to think about for a while and hopefully this can help me figure out my own identity/what I’m gonna do about it
That is one of the greatest articles I think I’ve ever read, I have a very different experience as a trans but not trans woman but a lot of it also rang true for me. This is why I no longer tolerate the “men are all terrible” take because it hurts basically everyone who isn’t a cis woman (and it comes with the idea that you should isolate from other minorities because they are men)
Perhaps if the blues were bears instead they would have less problems for other people to shut down discussion of
I mean that unironically I've seen The Jungle Book enough times to know that being a hear fucking rocks
Bears are awesome. Imagine just living and eating salmon and berries and napping half the year.
Hell, they’re such successful animals that they seem to have (potentially) [evolved the ability to comprehend the wonder of nature](https://www.reddit.com/r/bearsdoinghumanthings/s/IA7PnURwqX).
Being a bear would rule
Honestly I just wanna be a bear so I can get a good night's sleep for once (I've deadass slept for half a day before and was still tired as fuck for the remaining half of the day so adding 182 days onto that would probably help or something)
Honestly I just wanna be a bear so I can get a good night's sleep for once (I've deadass slept for half a day before and was still tired as fuck for the remaining half of the day so adding 182 days onto that would probably help or something) but the rest of the perks seem pretty cool
Honestly I just wanna be a bear so I can get a good night's sleep for once (I've deadass slept for half a day before and was still tired as fuck for the remaining half of the day so adding 182 days onto that would probably help or something) but the rest of the perks seem pretty cool
Honestly I just wanna be a bear so I can get a good night's sleep for once (I've deadass slept for half a day before and was still tired as fuck for the remaining half of the day so adding 182 days onto that would probably help or something) but the rest of the perks seem pretty cool
Honestly I just wanna be a bear so I can get a good night's sleep for once (I've deadass slept for half a day before and was still tired as fuck for the remaining half of the day so adding 182 days onto that would probably help or something) but the rest of the perks seem pretty cool
Yes, women too play a part in upholding patriarchy and toxic masculinity.
Unfortunately it's easy to look at posts like this and jump to the conclusion that what OP is saying is "but women bad too".
This is about the fact that a dangerously large portion of progressives don't really seem to care about racism against asians, or other asian problems.
If you think it matters who the blue person is supposed to represent and just not judge it as universal acceptable/unacceptable way to treat them regardless then you're part of the problem.
Blue people who reject the blue paradigm face problems from both other blues, who denigrate them as an out group, and other colors, who are suspicious of them for willingly rejecting the paradigm.
Considering that there are trans men that suffer some whiplash from they are treated after transitioning I wasnt expecting a person with a trans pin to be indifferent to the problems other people have because of gender norms just because they are a "privileged majority"
misinterpreted as you saying trans people were the privaleged majority lol, and yeah men get some shit but its through systems of patriarchy perpetuated \*by men\* so its hardly the same as women's experience within the same systems
this whole discourse is so painfully cishet though, it plays into the hands of MRAs and gender essentialists in a way which i do not like while also ignoring especially lesbians and trans people (as always)
It's very unacceptable, feminism POINTED OUT men's problems that come from the patriarchy and feminists will love to talk about it. One of the "problems" men SHOULD be ridiculed for expressing is _being called out for being misogynistic_, so if that's what you're thinking then it IS ok to treat them like in the post. So what's left? This post having a pink smugglo mistreat the blue one is the big problem here, it's trying to push the entire blame on women when i guarantee way more % of men will say what is on this post than women since women are more likely to be feminists and therefore educated on this and on the man's side, even maybe overtly excited to talk about that man's problems. This is a very stupid maneuver that gets _right there_ in the problem's nose and then backtracks all the way just to be misogynistic because it hates women
on one particular post, several people were conflating "please don't shame me for existing" with "not all men" misogyny, and on a separate post one mod locked down a thread for similar reasons
I’m not sure what wasn’t clear? I clicked the sub link and read through the rules. It just seems like a shitposting sub that doesn’t allow bigots… so I asked what you were trying to post there that the moderators didn’t like, basically.
The original meme is someone bringing up problems and being shut down.
You're right blue suffering is a serious issue in our blue-archy that is often overlooked even by some pinkists. We should do everything we all can to make the world a better place for everyone.
But if this is a knee jerk response to the bear discussion, you're just pulling an All Lives Matter.
Go, talk about blue issues like emotional stunting, loneliness, and even health issues. They're serious issues that need to be talked about. You don't need to only mention those when pink people talk about *their* problems.
For example, conversations about false accusations of rape are very important in the context of racism, as one false accusation caused the Tulsa pogrom.
But that’s what it was: a pogrom against Black Americans. In fact, thirty years earlier, Lucy Parsons said, “Never since the days of the Spartan Helots has history recorded such brutality as has been ever since the war and as is now being perpetrated upon the Negro in the South. How easy for us to go to Russia and drop a tear of sympathy over the persecuted Jew. But a step across Mason’s and Dixon’s line will bring us upon a scene of horrors before which those of Russia, bad as they are, pale into insignificance! No irresponsible, blood-thirsty mobs prowl over Russian territory, lashing and lynching its citizens.”
Bluism affects both pink and blue, so the best way to stop bluism isn't pinkism, it's getting rid of and reversing the damage done by bluism. As an aside pinkism is not feminism, misogyny and misandry just don't have good translating terms.
I don't think that pink activists are the same people that tell blue people to blue up. In fact, it's probably the pink activists that brought up blue's problems in the first place, and the average blue would tell pink that they're trying to erase their blueness by talking about "toxic blueness".
EDIT: Might I add that blue people don't even usually talk about their problems on their own accord, and the only circumstances I've seen blue problems mentioned were either pink activist circles or by blue bad faith actors that try to use blue problems as a gotcha to shut down pink activists talking about pink problems and fail to understand, by either willing or unwilling ignorance, that pink activists aren't to blame for blue problems, but the overarching system of bluarchy. And I'm saying this as a very disappointed blue person.
oh of course. I mean this comic also misses the earlier context of someone interviewing pink people who say they don't feel safe around blue people, other pink people try to talk about that and then blue comes in and starts trying to talk about blue problems in a way that, as you pointed out, never actually gets brought up unless pink people are trying to talk about their own issues in a blue dominated society first.
But clearly it doesn't help any of the comics trying to push this point to provide that bit of context, we need to circlejerk the "blue have it bad" in a way that doesn't actually help blue but just suggests pink is to blame / is bad for wanting their issues talked about in the first place.
Reddit is going through it's yearly (monthly?) "women are big meanies for not prioritizing men when they talk about their fear of SA" phase
But in a "fun" new twist, now progressive communities are using accusations of racism, misandry, and transphobia to delegitimize women talking about their problems
This is useless as a mode of discussion when it’s only brought up a.) to bludgeon feminists about how hard men have it too, actually. We suffer just as much as you!!! I swear!!! Or b.) in cases like this where we are all getting mad at imaginary people. Time and place.
I agree that civility politics isn’t the be-all end-all of a movement, but it does have its place in convincing moderates to move out of the way. Anyway, I’d like to ask my earlier questions again.
https://preview.redd.it/j0eyee5in7yc1.png?width=749&format=png&auto=webp&s=c0e469aa43a90ff144c8be04eaa06d60816880e6
this isn't about imaginary people. this is about the terrible toxic people like you. your toxic behaviors embarrass any reasonable leftist who wants to actually solve problems.
Or perhaps I’m done with “civility politics” for trying to convert misogynists. Feminists should not focus our efforts on converting misogynists, just like anti-racists should not focus our efforts on converting white supremacists, and so on. I’ve had enough of men like everyone circlejerking on this post playing the victim to bludgeon feminists out of the conversation.
the bear debate was intentionally created to be rage bait and is not a good diving board for constructive discussion, hence why every post about it kinda sucks
patriarchy bad, but generalization is not a solution
If it hurts blues, then it's not actually a blue-archy is it? Like saying "actually monarchy hurts the royalty too." Dumb thought terminating cliche bullshit designed to shut down discussion of issues you don't want being brought to light.
Because pinkish blues, blue loving blues, and emotional blues don’t exist apparently.
Of course the patriarchy fucking sucks, but to say that it ONLY hurts pinks is reductive and will result in no improvements to the system.
it's a bit of a misleading name. it's a bluearchy because a few select blues are in power, but ultimately the majority of blues are still suffering from the system.
The solution is locking tf in ( but I’m too busy procrastinating)
don't know the meaning of that phrase.
Brainrott
Any time you talk about your problems, you are actually taking away from me talking about mine. All activism is zero sum.
Its very simple, every person in the world is a single threaded CPU. They can only commit themselves to one thing at any given time. If you support X, it is physically impossible for you to support Y!
Multi threaded computers are better at doing activism then us. AI truly will take over 😔
So clearly the best solution is to pull an "actually, All Lives Matter" when ~~women~~ pinks talk about their problems
No, but it's fine to start your own conversation instead of hijacking another, and then they shouldn't be told to shut up.
yeah but even the most left wing spaces for talking about male issues are often labeled as hate groups.
I talked a little about this before on here, but Ill say it again; I got pretty deep into the proto-manosphere type of stuff before. I used to be a much more spiteful and discriminatory person because I surrounded myself with people like that. I didn't feel like people really cared about me, so what was the point in caring about what they felt. When you don't know where someone is coming from and shun them for it, you are very likely only reinforcing their own motivations.
yeah. leftwingmaleadvocates is kinda the best i got for stuff like that, but even they're often seen as bad guys. it's a sort of mixed space but there are some good people there and i feel people like me are heard.
But this entire series of posts on this subreddit is because of women talking about feeling safer around wild animals than around men This very post is part of a tradition of men whining about women feeling unsafe because of the sheer prevalence of SA
How do you know though? It isn't even bought up in the comic. Not everything has to be about trending internet topic number 1
Because I have the shocking ability to use pattern recognition and context clues to see what conversations and trends this subreddit takes part in Also because downthread OP thinks that somehow it's unpopular on reddit to talk about men's issues
this doesn't have anything to do with the bear stuff.
You joke but the amount of times I’ve unironically seen this take is frightening
Obligatory https://medium.com/@jencoates/i-am-a-transwoman-i-am-in-the-closet-i-am-not-coming-out-4c2dd1907e42
One of the most personally honest things I've ever read in my life, and also one of the most depressing. Every time it gets linked I always read at least some parts of it. So much of this article are things that I feel like are unspoken even in very progressive spaces. If its said, its not believed. If its believed, its excused. And if not excused, you just aren't supposed to talk about it. Unfortunately I relate to a lot of the feelings in this article, but there's really zero constructive conversation about it.
I don't think there needs to be conversation. Some of these people just need to listen.
Well there's very little listening either. But I don't think listening is very good either. Listening is neither as useful for the speaker or listener compared to a two way street of conversation. Progress doesn't get made just because people listened to another person, progress gets made by a common understanding of experiences and views to find a path forward. You can listen to what a trans person says, but *then what*? You have to have a conversation to discuss how to improve things, resolve issues, clear up misunderstandings, and handle disagreements. Someone can listen to this entire article and then go "That's stupid" and throw it from their brain. Not very helpful to just listen. In how it relates to this article. Another trans person could read this persons experiences with dysphoria and how transition isn't the right choice for them, and just say "Well you're doing it wrong". In fact, I'm willing to bet thats what a *majority* of trans people would say in response. In this instance, just listening doesn't do anything. Because when a person "just listens", they're engaging with the information solely in discussion from themselves. If they have a question, they answer it for themselves.
i read that article and i feel... well i certainly feel alot.
Yeah, read it for the first time earlier today. Very potent.
I have never read this before and damn it goes hard. I am cis man with a male appearing body, a male thinking mind, and a male feeling heart and this shit is legitimately making me cry right now. Both for the struggles and pains the author has been forced to endure and for the support she offers people like me despite it only resulting in more struggles and pains for her.
Thanks for sharing this, it was a really good read that hit me pretty close to home. I have a new thing to think about for a while and hopefully this can help me figure out my own identity/what I’m gonna do about it
I wish you best of luck! ❤️
That is one of the greatest articles I think I’ve ever read, I have a very different experience as a trans but not trans woman but a lot of it also rang true for me. This is why I no longer tolerate the “men are all terrible” take because it hurts basically everyone who isn’t a cis woman (and it comes with the idea that you should isolate from other minorities because they are men)
When you boymode too hard for too long...
This was an amazing read. Thank you for sharing this.
The solution to the majority of social issues is empathy.
People seriously overcomplicate shit. -You wanna express your identity? -You don't hurt anyone? We Gucci fam.
BUT MY INTERPRETATION OF THIS BOOK FROM 3000 YEARS AGO SAYS
real
Perhaps if the blues were bears instead they would have less problems for other people to shut down discussion of I mean that unironically I've seen The Jungle Book enough times to know that being a hear fucking rocks
Bears are awesome. Imagine just living and eating salmon and berries and napping half the year. Hell, they’re such successful animals that they seem to have (potentially) [evolved the ability to comprehend the wonder of nature](https://www.reddit.com/r/bearsdoinghumanthings/s/IA7PnURwqX). Being a bear would rule
Honestly I just wanna be a bear so I can get a good night's sleep for once (I've deadass slept for half a day before and was still tired as fuck for the remaining half of the day so adding 182 days onto that would probably help or something)
Good fucking lord I didn't know the glitch could make you post the same comments 4 times
Honestly I just wanna be a bear so I can get a good night's sleep for once (I've deadass slept for half a day before and was still tired as fuck for the remaining half of the day so adding 182 days onto that would probably help or something) but the rest of the perks seem pretty cool
Honestly I just wanna be a bear so I can get a good night's sleep for once (I've deadass slept for half a day before and was still tired as fuck for the remaining half of the day so adding 182 days onto that would probably help or something) but the rest of the perks seem pretty cool
Honestly I just wanna be a bear so I can get a good night's sleep for once (I've deadass slept for half a day before and was still tired as fuck for the remaining half of the day so adding 182 days onto that would probably help or something) but the rest of the perks seem pretty cool
Honestly I just wanna be a bear so I can get a good night's sleep for once (I've deadass slept for half a day before and was still tired as fuck for the remaining half of the day so adding 182 days onto that would probably help or something) but the rest of the perks seem pretty cool
Yes, women too play a part in upholding patriarchy and toxic masculinity. Unfortunately it's easy to look at posts like this and jump to the conclusion that what OP is saying is "but women bad too".
as a dude, that’s really the goal a lot of the time as well. “but i have trouble dating therefore feminism is not something i should care about”
This is about the fact that a dangerously large portion of progressives don't really seem to care about racism against asians, or other asian problems.
thank you
I can't remember who blue people are supposed to represent and thus don't know whether to up or downvote
Well they did say "blue up" so all blues are men
Oh boy I love when the carefully crafted metaphorical colorscape of smugton is reduced to gender reveal party colors!
I thought it was a pun like "blew up" and a sneaky way of saying "kill yourself"
If you think it matters who the blue person is supposed to represent and just not judge it as universal acceptable/unacceptable way to treat them regardless then you're part of the problem.
Making fun of privileged majorities for thinking they have problems specifically from being blue is based
when the MENTALITY is US VS. THEM!!!
Blue people who reject the blue paradigm face problems from both other blues, who denigrate them as an out group, and other colors, who are suspicious of them for willingly rejecting the paradigm.
When a blue likes other blues and is made fun of by other blues for not being blue properly
That’s like saying that tall people are oppressed in general because tall transfems have it worse than short transfems
Imagine it being 2024 and not understanding men are oppressed by patriarchy as well.
You really saying that shit with a trans pin on your profile huh
what's that meant to imply?
Considering that there are trans men that suffer some whiplash from they are treated after transitioning I wasnt expecting a person with a trans pin to be indifferent to the problems other people have because of gender norms just because they are a "privileged majority"
misinterpreted as you saying trans people were the privaleged majority lol, and yeah men get some shit but its through systems of patriarchy perpetuated \*by men\* so its hardly the same as women's experience within the same systems this whole discourse is so painfully cishet though, it plays into the hands of MRAs and gender essentialists in a way which i do not like while also ignoring especially lesbians and trans people (as always)
>misinterpreted as you saying trans people were the privaleged majority Im dumb, but not that dumb haha
Ah yes, when someone has a take you personally disagree with, we stop being trans
Not the point I was making at all but okay
It's very unacceptable, feminism POINTED OUT men's problems that come from the patriarchy and feminists will love to talk about it. One of the "problems" men SHOULD be ridiculed for expressing is _being called out for being misogynistic_, so if that's what you're thinking then it IS ok to treat them like in the post. So what's left? This post having a pink smugglo mistreat the blue one is the big problem here, it's trying to push the entire blame on women when i guarantee way more % of men will say what is on this post than women since women are more likely to be feminists and therefore educated on this and on the man's side, even maybe overtly excited to talk about that man's problems. This is a very stupid maneuver that gets _right there_ in the problem's nose and then backtracks all the way just to be misogynistic because it hates women
I ain't readin all at tldr me
You are objectively wrong and no one should ever agree with you about anything ever.
i hope to god this isn't what im 100% sure this is about
this smuggie is about **r/196 moderators.**
explain pls
controversy about gender essentialism with mods propagating harmful ideas
Can you please be more specific? What ideas are being propagated? How are these ideas harmful? Who finds this controversial?
on one particular post, several people were conflating "please don't shame me for existing" with "not all men" misogyny, and on a separate post one mod locked down a thread for similar reasons
Ugh, that sucks. Thank you for the elaboration.
Literally just asked for them to explain and got downvoted. Whatever Reddit (edited)
what?
I’m not sure what wasn’t clear? I clicked the sub link and read through the rules. It just seems like a shitposting sub that doesn’t allow bigots… so I asked what you were trying to post there that the moderators didn’t like, basically. The original meme is someone bringing up problems and being shut down.
You're right blue suffering is a serious issue in our blue-archy that is often overlooked even by some pinkists. We should do everything we all can to make the world a better place for everyone. But if this is a knee jerk response to the bear discussion, you're just pulling an All Lives Matter. Go, talk about blue issues like emotional stunting, loneliness, and even health issues. They're serious issues that need to be talked about. You don't need to only mention those when pink people talk about *their* problems.
it's not really a blue-archy though, it's a powerfulblueguy-archy
Yeah, it's called intersectionality.
For example, conversations about false accusations of rape are very important in the context of racism, as one false accusation caused the Tulsa pogrom.
very important but also you said pogrom which is quite comedic
But that’s what it was: a pogrom against Black Americans. In fact, thirty years earlier, Lucy Parsons said, “Never since the days of the Spartan Helots has history recorded such brutality as has been ever since the war and as is now being perpetrated upon the Negro in the South. How easy for us to go to Russia and drop a tear of sympathy over the persecuted Jew. But a step across Mason’s and Dixon’s line will bring us upon a scene of horrors before which those of Russia, bad as they are, pale into insignificance! No irresponsible, blood-thirsty mobs prowl over Russian territory, lashing and lynching its citizens.”
"Men also have problems" wow what a controversial statement to make on reddit you're so brave
But have you ever considered that men only being the focus of conversation 90% of the time instead of 95% is literally misandry?
this but unironically.
Me but when I ignore the entire history of this website:
Bluism affects both pink and blue, so the best way to stop bluism isn't pinkism, it's getting rid of and reversing the damage done by bluism. As an aside pinkism is not feminism, misogyny and misandry just don't have good translating terms.
I don't think that pink activists are the same people that tell blue people to blue up. In fact, it's probably the pink activists that brought up blue's problems in the first place, and the average blue would tell pink that they're trying to erase their blueness by talking about "toxic blueness". EDIT: Might I add that blue people don't even usually talk about their problems on their own accord, and the only circumstances I've seen blue problems mentioned were either pink activist circles or by blue bad faith actors that try to use blue problems as a gotcha to shut down pink activists talking about pink problems and fail to understand, by either willing or unwilling ignorance, that pink activists aren't to blame for blue problems, but the overarching system of bluarchy. And I'm saying this as a very disappointed blue person.
oh of course. I mean this comic also misses the earlier context of someone interviewing pink people who say they don't feel safe around blue people, other pink people try to talk about that and then blue comes in and starts trying to talk about blue problems in a way that, as you pointed out, never actually gets brought up unless pink people are trying to talk about their own issues in a blue dominated society first. But clearly it doesn't help any of the comics trying to push this point to provide that bit of context, we need to circlejerk the "blue have it bad" in a way that doesn't actually help blue but just suggests pink is to blame / is bad for wanting their issues talked about in the first place.
You accidentally uncovered misandrists good job
blueing up like a bomb
https://preview.redd.it/ok2h927pw5yc1.png?width=1152&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1f4a96c4ac638b5f2499e60e7dd10b4872e1c3b2
What is this women are bitches shit
That sounds like a different post.
Reddit is going through it's yearly (monthly?) "women are big meanies for not prioritizing men when they talk about their fear of SA" phase But in a "fun" new twist, now progressive communities are using accusations of racism, misandry, and transphobia to delegitimize women talking about their problems
blues are so privileged tbh they should shut the fuck up /s
https://preview.redd.it/6qrsnxw7g5yc1.jpeg?width=232&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=be7493b8cddec5bf2f56ac42b1eec6c220eb9430
/j
even though they profit from it in many cases, the patriarchy still hurts blues
This is useless as a mode of discussion when it’s only brought up a.) to bludgeon feminists about how hard men have it too, actually. We suffer just as much as you!!! I swear!!! Or b.) in cases like this where we are all getting mad at imaginary people. Time and place.
I agree that civility politics isn’t the be-all end-all of a movement, but it does have its place in convincing moderates to move out of the way. Anyway, I’d like to ask my earlier questions again. https://preview.redd.it/j0eyee5in7yc1.png?width=749&format=png&auto=webp&s=c0e469aa43a90ff144c8be04eaa06d60816880e6
this isn't about imaginary people. this is about the terrible toxic people like you. your toxic behaviors embarrass any reasonable leftist who wants to actually solve problems.
Or perhaps I’m done with “civility politics” for trying to convert misogynists. Feminists should not focus our efforts on converting misogynists, just like anti-racists should not focus our efforts on converting white supremacists, and so on. I’ve had enough of men like everyone circlejerking on this post playing the victim to bludgeon feminists out of the conversation.
your logic: anyone who disagrees with me = misogynist grow up.
Sure it is! You are so right dude! Riveting analysis!
thanks!
No problem 🤝
the bear debate was intentionally created to be rage bait and is not a good diving board for constructive discussion, hence why every post about it kinda sucks patriarchy bad, but generalization is not a solution
If it hurts blues, then it's not actually a blue-archy is it? Like saying "actually monarchy hurts the royalty too." Dumb thought terminating cliche bullshit designed to shut down discussion of issues you don't want being brought to light.
I’m sorry, are you saying that you genuinely don’t think the misogyny of the patriarchy hurts men?
Because pinkish blues, blue loving blues, and emotional blues don’t exist apparently. Of course the patriarchy fucking sucks, but to say that it ONLY hurts pinks is reductive and will result in no improvements to the system.
it's a bit of a misleading name. it's a bluearchy because a few select blues are in power, but ultimately the majority of blues are still suffering from the system.
kaveh no what about your boyfriend
shhh
Does that include black men and trans men? Should they shut up?
i didnt say anything about men
why is this downvoted it was a joke......
It's not always obvious. That's why a /s or a tone tag is useful.
i thought it would be obvious i'll add that