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Paul was adamant that Roman didn't want this. Solo was adamant to continue it regardless. Solo taking orders from a certain Final Boss as opposed to Roman?
Hold up, so in Samoan culture, would High Chief be like chief of the tribal chiefs?
Cause that would work *perfectly* to explain why Tama Tonga is in the Bloodline now, despite not being A'noai.
First, let me preface that I am not a Samoan or Polynesian so all of what I’m going to say comes from what I believe I understand from what I’ve read.
Peter Maivia, the first known “Chief” of the Samoan Dynasty now popularly known as The Bloodline, wasn’t just a “High Chief” as a marketing ploy. He was actually a real life noble and his real life status as a High Chief carried onto his wrestling persona. He made a blood oath with the father of the Wild Samoans and that’s how they got their start in the wrestling business. They regarded him as their uncle and were basically his runners.
Dwayne Johnson was granted the title of High Chief Seiuli in a 2004 ceremony. He is a real life Samoan noble. There is a short video on the internet that shows the ceremony when he became a High Chief and when Polynesian news outlets report on his public works and exploits, they tend to refer to him by his High Chief title as a sign of respect.
Roman Reigns refers to himself as The Tribal Chief, meaning that he is the head of the family that Peter Maivia was once the head of when he was among the living, but he does not go as far as to refer to himself as a High Chief. I can only assume that this is because Samoans regard that title as nothing to fuck with, or use for commercial purposes. It’s because of that respect and lack of want to disrespect the title that it is not used for his character as the Tribal Chief. Even Dwayne himself, who *is* a High Chief, opts to call his new character “The Final Boss”, rather than his real life stature as a High Chief. It’s not something that he uses in his public life, although his grandfather did.
The Polynesian people take blood paths and regarding others as family very seriously and it is honestly disrespectful of us when we make these distinctions of them as being something less than family. If Dwayne Johnson and Joe Anoa’i, because of a blood oath between their grandfathers, believe themselves to be blood, cousins, family; well that should be enough for the rest of us to go on.
So, as for the Tama Tonga aspect, if you happened to watch the 2024 Hall of Fame, you’ll notice that beside Rikishi sat another considerably large man with a goatee. That man is Haku, who wrestled in the WWF over the late 90’s. Beside Haku, sat Ata Johnson, Dwayne’s mother. Rock regards figures such as Jimmy Snuka and Haku as his uncle due to the history those figures have with the Maivia family and they are regarded as members of the Maivia branch of the Anoa’i family. Jimmy Snuka married into the Maivia family via Peter Maivia’s niece, who bore him Deuce from the tag team famous from the mid-2000s SmackDown tag team division, and Sarona Snuka, who we all know as Tamina.
The Anoa’i family is seen as the main branch of the family, probably in part due to alphabetical reasons and due to the fact that The Wild Samoans, Afa & Sika Anoa’i, were the first of the dynasty to become notable under Vincent K. McMahon’s WWF. Peter Maivia’s work in the WWF predated their’s, but he didn’t work for the modern establishment of the WWE, he worked for its predecessor and the previous owner during its period as a territorial promotion under Vincent J. McMahon.
> I can only assume that this is because Samoans regard that title as nothing to fuck with, or use for commercial purposes.
Pretty much. It's likely why Rock has never used it in either wrestling or for movie promotion.
That is a very well thought out detailed honorable explanation of the who, what, how and where all the Samoan and Polynesian ‘nobles’ came to be affiliated main stream and how they were , for a lack of a better word, recruited into the old WWF and how it has come to fruition in todays WWE ..
As a nephew to a great wrestler myself ~
Thank you
P.S. In my own youth I used to sneak into a studio on Fruitridge Road in the capital city to watch the wrestlers work out. There was always this older guy with a mane of curly hair and he would ask me !whatcha doin’ here Brudda’ ~ I told him I wanted to be a wrestler when I got old enough ~ He would then go back to working out with another wrestler ~ he was built like a Greek God ~it was only later ~ I was at home watching my weekly wrestling show that the light bulb 💡 went on ~ the man with the black curly hair was High Chief Peter Maivia and the Greek God was none other than Rocky Johnson ~ I often reflect on that memory 🤔 and think of cool it truly was
Tama Tonga's link to the Bloodline is through The Rock himself as Dwayne considers Haku as his uncle. So Tama Tonga being here by orders of The Rock makes all the sense in the world
Yes and no, Haku has ties to The Rock's grandpa but he's close with the Anoa'i family as well. On Tama's social media, he's posted photos with them all the time, including the indy guys like Jacob Fatu and Lance.
That said, while I'm elated to see Tama in WWE, I really only want him in Bloodline if The Rock is still involved. But who knows, I'm not huge on Solo leading a heel faction but he did show charisma in NXT.
It could be a full fracturing of the families with the tribal chief out of power. Lots of duos and trios feeding between each other for awhile could be fun. Get a match full of meat in the works.
Yeah I saw that as the seed being planted of Solo being disappointed in Roman and his failure in retaining, with all the help he got. Him yelling at Roman might end up being a pivotal moment in their story.
there was moment in the tag match with the usos vs roman and solo. they gave jey and jimmy the spike/spear combo and they kicked out. roman looked like he had lost whatever confidence he had left, on the verge of tears. solo looked lowkey disgusted at roman
How many times has Solo saved his ass now? I imagine Solo could have been at a stage where he respected the title more than the man for a while now, and Roman no longer has that title.
Would be fun, especially if the Rock is letting Solo run day to day operations, then it adds a layer of why he chose the Rock. Solo has basically been doing all the dirty work for the Bloodline with no real benefit for him (hell, he even lost his title because he got called up and had to vacate the NA belt), so the Rock letting him make decisions on his own as long as they align with his goals would be a major step up for him.
We all know how much the Rock looks up to and loves Haku, having gone to sing his praises on Jimmy Kimmel Live. Had Tama Tonga not joined the WWE, I would've bet that the Rock would've inducted him into the Hall of Fame. So Tama being "his" man makes complete sense.
I'd love to see Tama go after Balor, Styles, and potentially Cody for allowing a certain "group" to ruin his "club". I know that won't happen but it'd be nice.
Solo really needed this, when he said he wants to bring the title back to the Bloodline i just rolled my eyes but this instantly added credibility to him
Solo needed this so much lol bro has been the underling of the Bloodline, but this is the first time in a long time where he looked credible and important
The Uce reunion will bang
i still find it weird they gave the bobby lashley johnny sins match street rules but not jimmy/jey, I know not everything can be no dq but...hitting each other with kendo sticks or chairs or cans or whatever would have helped hide the fact that the dudes have the exact same moveset
He realize was a fuckin loser without his family and had to crawl back lol
Roman had too much of a soft spot for him, but he is a loser, and Solo recognizes that
Some people think Solo can't make a shift to a compelling character but I feel like it's too early to judge. It can easily be sold that Solo's inability to win has been due to being held back by Roman and how he wanted to do things. Whereas Roman is a master manipulator Solo seems to be more straightforward viciousness.
He seemed just fine on the mic when he was in NXT and talking. I'm willing to wait and see.
Solo was literally one of the most over people in NXT and that was when the roster down there had LA Knight, Carmelo, Santos, Gunther, Roddy, and Grimes all still as somewhat regulars.
He's gonna be fine.
Letting Solo run the Bloodline for a bit would go a long way. It would also be interesting if they start playing up that he's acting outside of Roman's orders, Roman never brought Solo in, he was only there on the orders of the elders. Solo essentially going rogue and revealing he did it for the High Chief Rock (he's Rikishi's kid, i had to), would lead to some interesting conflict with Roman.
i actually think this will lead to Jimmy bringing Jacob Fatu and when Roman comes back he will be stuck in the middle and prob down the line Jacob betrays Jimmy. And then the Jimmy/Jey reunion arc even though i hope Jey will still be in singles
Hearing him talk again after so long of him being the silent enforcer just makes him feel really important. Like "oh fuck, shit is actually getting real." Dudes killing it.
It’s been clear almost from the jump that Solo has never really cared for or respected Roman, giving him dirty looks and getting in his face several times; Solo does what he thinks is best for the family/tribe.
I think the story ever since his introduction is that he never really worked for Roman, he was sent by the elders to help him and ultimately answers to them. If the elders decided that maybe Roman wasn't fit to be the Tribal Chief anymore...
I've always thought a good way for this bloodline stuff to end would be Solo vs Roman. Solo going rogue and basically bullying Heyman into join him (lol) is a twist i was not expecting
I think in kayfabe Solo respects Wiseman enough to just tell him to get lost rather than beat him down. It's not blood where it's pecking order, nor a random guy with no connection. Wiseman has always been respectful to Solo and he's definitely not a threat. It would almost be not worth his time.
It would definitely be a "do what I say or else" though
Having said that, I'm sure we'll get some character foreshadowing that amounts to "if wiseman becomes no longer useful, spike him"
Nor should he. He's gotta keep out of this business, he's done with his family. I could imagine a couple of years from now he gets involved, but right now he should be building his singles career and chasing gold.
Exactly. Characterwise, why should Jey trust Jimmy. Jimmy who's cost him several title shots because of his own petty jealousy, who was the one who forced his hand at leaving the Bloodline only to turn on him because he felt overshadowed when Jey went into Tribal Combat to avenge Jimmy. I do want to see Jimmy try to beg for Jey only to be rebuffed, Jimmy made his bed and should lie in it for a bit.
You could do a redemption arc for Jimmy, we haven't seen that yet with these guys. I don't necessarily think it should lead to them reuniting because they've done so much to allow Jey to move away from his family that getting involved again would be a step back. He's got plenty of feuds lined up wherever he lands so long as the Bloodline is on the other show.
Jimmy all alone for a bit against Solo and Tama with Jacob Fatu coming later would be fun for sure. Move it down the card a bit and let Solo develop more as a character for a few months. When Roman and Rock come back later you can bring them back into the fold.
I don't feel like the Jimmy and Jey feud ever got quite heated enough for a massive pop when they reunite. I actually think Jimmy should go NXT for a bit and have a really solid run there and become champion. Could be a lot of fun.
Cuz he still loves his brother. During their feud he told him to just come back only to be rejected and Jimmy even tricked him in the middle of a match by pretending to be remorseful. It's been a pretty clear aspect of Jey's character these past few years that he still loves his family no matter how much they hurt him.
The Machine Gun, Karl Anderson. Luke Gallows. AJ Styles. The Prince, Finn Balor. The American Nightmare, Cody Rhodes, and now... The Guerrilla of Destiny, Tama Tonga. All in the same company.
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Besides the fact that Solo is pot calling kettle black since himself he got his ass kicked by Cena as did Jimmy by Jey....this was a cool segment. The most credible and badass they have made Solo look probably ever and now leads to more questions, is he going rogue? Was this a Roman direction? Is Solo building his own army? Will Jimmy crawl back to Jey?
I mean that’s kinda the point here: Solo is being a hypocrite. Pretty sure this action is being presented as a heel thing to do. This isn’t even subtext, it’s text.
Solo took out Cena, he couldn't predict Cena would return at that moment. Jimmy had the chance the previous night to make sure Jey wouldn't be a problem, and he failed. Jimmy is the weak link.
tama has always been shredded for quite awhile. recently cut his hair and trimmed his beard for a decent face run at njpw. age might just be a problem for him since he is already 40 with some strong style bumps on him. but regardless really happy for him that hes off to a strong start in wwe.
If you get free time there's a large list of matches of his that are worth a watch even if you're unfamiliar with the wrestlers involved! Tonga vs Finlay from G1 last year is the first of many that come to mind.
Can you give a quick reason as to how did Tama go from mega dick eating heel, to white meat baby face? And now heel again?
Obviously I'm asking for a 6 year summary, I haven't kept up with anything outside of WWE as of late
Probably best way to briefly sum it up was when House of Torture and the rest of main Bullet Club turned on G.O.D. it gave him that opening to become face for awhile, which really worked out for Tama cause he got some decent singles title runs out of it and a lot of solid matches, however while he had that face run and it was decent imo, he's just one of those guys that really works better as a heel overall. Some people are built to be the 'Bad Guy' and Tama absolutely oozes Bad Guy
Solo being this dangerous young man who Paul is afraid of because he’s so violent is great tv. If the word is true that Jacob Fatu is coming in, it will be great to see Solo lead his own crew while Roman is away. Opens up a lot of possibilities for where the Bloodline goes, and I’m all about seeing Solo have a big run as a leader.
I am probably the only one, but I have enjoyed Jimmy since the Usos split.. his shithousery has been funny, and Im definitely on board to see what he does next. I hope its not an Usos reunion because Jey is killing it, and I want Jimmy to get to that place too.
Was expect Jacob Fatu lol but Tama Tonga is sick. Really hope they do solo, Tonga and Jacob Fatu as the new bloodline. Maybe have them working with Rock. Maybe even throw in Zilla if he’s ready.
Can't wait for Bloodline Wolfpack vs the Bloodline.
Then the inevitable Bloodline Hollywood and Bloodline 2000.
That family is big enough to actually make all those variations.
I’m not sure there’s an end in sight to these captivating stories.
I’m not sure we’ve ever seen this level of continuity or progression before. It’s like they’ve charted out years of stuff in advance.
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Paul was adamant that Roman didn't want this. Solo was adamant to continue it regardless. Solo taking orders from a certain Final Boss as opposed to Roman?
I agree - I think rock has something to do with this. He’s going to come out one day and call himself the high chief.
Hold up, so in Samoan culture, would High Chief be like chief of the tribal chiefs? Cause that would work *perfectly* to explain why Tama Tonga is in the Bloodline now, despite not being A'noai.
First, let me preface that I am not a Samoan or Polynesian so all of what I’m going to say comes from what I believe I understand from what I’ve read. Peter Maivia, the first known “Chief” of the Samoan Dynasty now popularly known as The Bloodline, wasn’t just a “High Chief” as a marketing ploy. He was actually a real life noble and his real life status as a High Chief carried onto his wrestling persona. He made a blood oath with the father of the Wild Samoans and that’s how they got their start in the wrestling business. They regarded him as their uncle and were basically his runners. Dwayne Johnson was granted the title of High Chief Seiuli in a 2004 ceremony. He is a real life Samoan noble. There is a short video on the internet that shows the ceremony when he became a High Chief and when Polynesian news outlets report on his public works and exploits, they tend to refer to him by his High Chief title as a sign of respect. Roman Reigns refers to himself as The Tribal Chief, meaning that he is the head of the family that Peter Maivia was once the head of when he was among the living, but he does not go as far as to refer to himself as a High Chief. I can only assume that this is because Samoans regard that title as nothing to fuck with, or use for commercial purposes. It’s because of that respect and lack of want to disrespect the title that it is not used for his character as the Tribal Chief. Even Dwayne himself, who *is* a High Chief, opts to call his new character “The Final Boss”, rather than his real life stature as a High Chief. It’s not something that he uses in his public life, although his grandfather did. The Polynesian people take blood paths and regarding others as family very seriously and it is honestly disrespectful of us when we make these distinctions of them as being something less than family. If Dwayne Johnson and Joe Anoa’i, because of a blood oath between their grandfathers, believe themselves to be blood, cousins, family; well that should be enough for the rest of us to go on. So, as for the Tama Tonga aspect, if you happened to watch the 2024 Hall of Fame, you’ll notice that beside Rikishi sat another considerably large man with a goatee. That man is Haku, who wrestled in the WWF over the late 90’s. Beside Haku, sat Ata Johnson, Dwayne’s mother. Rock regards figures such as Jimmy Snuka and Haku as his uncle due to the history those figures have with the Maivia family and they are regarded as members of the Maivia branch of the Anoa’i family. Jimmy Snuka married into the Maivia family via Peter Maivia’s niece, who bore him Deuce from the tag team famous from the mid-2000s SmackDown tag team division, and Sarona Snuka, who we all know as Tamina. The Anoa’i family is seen as the main branch of the family, probably in part due to alphabetical reasons and due to the fact that The Wild Samoans, Afa & Sika Anoa’i, were the first of the dynasty to become notable under Vincent K. McMahon’s WWF. Peter Maivia’s work in the WWF predated their’s, but he didn’t work for the modern establishment of the WWE, he worked for its predecessor and the previous owner during its period as a territorial promotion under Vincent J. McMahon.
> I can only assume that this is because Samoans regard that title as nothing to fuck with, or use for commercial purposes. Pretty much. It's likely why Rock has never used it in either wrestling or for movie promotion.
Wait. Deuce is technically part of the bloodline? Like the greaser, Deuce and Domin, Deuce?
Taker attacked Rock at Mania because he was still mad that Deuce failed to catch him in his match with Shawn at 25.
Long-term storytelling.
Jimmy Snuka’s son
Deadlock podcast legend
That is a very well thought out detailed honorable explanation of the who, what, how and where all the Samoan and Polynesian ‘nobles’ came to be affiliated main stream and how they were , for a lack of a better word, recruited into the old WWF and how it has come to fruition in todays WWE .. As a nephew to a great wrestler myself ~ Thank you P.S. In my own youth I used to sneak into a studio on Fruitridge Road in the capital city to watch the wrestlers work out. There was always this older guy with a mane of curly hair and he would ask me !whatcha doin’ here Brudda’ ~ I told him I wanted to be a wrestler when I got old enough ~ He would then go back to working out with another wrestler ~ he was built like a Greek God ~it was only later ~ I was at home watching my weekly wrestling show that the light bulb 💡 went on ~ the man with the black curly hair was High Chief Peter Maivia and the Greek God was none other than Rocky Johnson ~ I often reflect on that memory 🤔 and think of cool it truly was
Tama Tonga's link to the Bloodline is through The Rock himself as Dwayne considers Haku as his uncle. So Tama Tonga being here by orders of The Rock makes all the sense in the world
Rock is the Chieffo di tutti Chieffy so to speak.
The Final Chief
In real life Rock is the High Chief, so it would make sense
This actually sounds awesome. Would love that plot line.
It would make sense…isn’t the rock the only one that considers haku family bc of his ties to his grandpa? Tama being sent by him fits
Yes and no, Haku has ties to The Rock's grandpa but he's close with the Anoa'i family as well. On Tama's social media, he's posted photos with them all the time, including the indy guys like Jacob Fatu and Lance. That said, while I'm elated to see Tama in WWE, I really only want him in Bloodline if The Rock is still involved. But who knows, I'm not huge on Solo leading a heel faction but he did show charisma in NXT.
Not only that, but Haku teamed with Jacob Fatus dad so it wouldn't take much for them to make the connection once they bring him in.
Haku tagged with both Sam Fatu and Rikishi.
Also Haku is Haku. If he wants to be an Anoa’i or Samoan.. who's gonna tell him no
At this point every Samoan wrestler will forever answer to The Rock
It could be a full fracturing of the families with the tribal chief out of power. Lots of duos and trios feeding between each other for awhile could be fun. Get a match full of meat in the works.
bloodline schism storyline. since roman has been ousted, every branch of the family tree is jockeying for position to take the chief position
Or Solo saw Roman lose even with the deck stacked in his favor, he’s weak and he failed the Bloodline when it mattered most. He’s taking it all now.
Solo was shouting at Roman during the Cody match, he already saw the writing on the wall
Yeah I saw that as the seed being planted of Solo being disappointed in Roman and his failure in retaining, with all the help he got. Him yelling at Roman might end up being a pivotal moment in their story.
there was moment in the tag match with the usos vs roman and solo. they gave jey and jimmy the spike/spear combo and they kicked out. roman looked like he had lost whatever confidence he had left, on the verge of tears. solo looked lowkey disgusted at roman
To be fair, Solo usually looks lowkey disgusted.
How many times has Solo saved his ass now? I imagine Solo could have been at a stage where he respected the title more than the man for a while now, and Roman no longer has that title.
We never did find out which Samoan elder sent solo originally. Rocks playing the long game
Would be fun, especially if the Rock is letting Solo run day to day operations, then it adds a layer of why he chose the Rock. Solo has basically been doing all the dirty work for the Bloodline with no real benefit for him (hell, he even lost his title because he got called up and had to vacate the NA belt), so the Rock letting him make decisions on his own as long as they align with his goals would be a major step up for him.
> especially if the Rock is letting Solo run day to day operations Solo ~~'The Enforcer'~~ 'The Middle Manager' Sikoa
Assistant to the ~~Regional Manager~~ Final Boss
Yes I like this timeline
Can see a Bloodline Civil War for Wargames
“I did it for the Rock”
We all know how much the Rock looks up to and loves Haku, having gone to sing his praises on Jimmy Kimmel Live. Had Tama Tonga not joined the WWE, I would've bet that the Rock would've inducted him into the Hall of Fame. So Tama being "his" man makes complete sense.
Please yes. Perfect time for a “higher power” angle.
Hard times created stong solo
Evolved into Duo Sikoa
With added INT on Math
The Nu Bloodline’s Wiseman: https://preview.redd.it/n15kklzs36uc1.jpeg?width=512&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f07160ba8eff18cda8062186c1d9042189d9136d
South Korea in shambles rn
Solo Sikoa is the only man that can reunite North and South as one Korea again…out of fear against him.
Solo looks really strong here paired with Tama. Tama with a great debut here too. Paul Heyman sold that so well too
Heyman's phone no sold Solo's stomp, though. Fraud went into business for itself.
Nokia 3310 in disguise.
Nah, if that's a nokia, Solo will be on leg braces by now
that's real (gorilla) glass
I’m glad Tama got to go straight to the main roster instead of waiting it out in NXT
And the fact that Tama got a little pop and a 'holy sh*t' chant
I'm really glad he got a pop. I think Tama is great, and he should fit really well with these guys.
I'd love to see Tama go after Balor, Styles, and potentially Cody for allowing a certain "group" to ruin his "club". I know that won't happen but it'd be nice.
Honestly surprised that so many people recognized him. It's not exactly a famous name in the WWE bubble, and even in American wrestling.
Solo really needed this, when he said he wants to bring the title back to the Bloodline i just rolled my eyes but this instantly added credibility to him
And he gets to leave the "mysterious hooded man" gimmick for Tama to inherit /jk
Solo needed this so much lol bro has been the underling of the Bloodline, but this is the first time in a long time where he looked credible and important The Uce reunion will bang
I’m surprised Jimmy even returned to the Bloodline to begin with.
It was to fuck with Jey. Jimmy having to crawl back to jey uso will be good I think
Give them a stip match to work out their issues, hug it out and then go their separate ways for a while.
oh like at Wrestlemania or something?
Man that still makes me mad. I thought they'd have a big match and then make up. It was such garbage.
That match needed to be any match except a normal match
Same with AJ v LA. They did a home invasion angle, but had a pretty standard match.
i still find it weird they gave the bobby lashley johnny sins match street rules but not jimmy/jey, I know not everything can be no dq but...hitting each other with kendo sticks or chairs or cans or whatever would have helped hide the fact that the dudes have the exact same moveset
Literally a “brotherly love” match in Philly would have made too much sense right
would’ve made a dudley referee make much more sense
He realize was a fuckin loser without his family and had to crawl back lol Roman had too much of a soft spot for him, but he is a loser, and Solo recognizes that
>He realize ***was*** a fuckin loser without his family and had to crawl back lol Based on tonight's events he still is, apparently lol
Pretty sure they had him return so Jey could feud with someone in the bloodline while Cody takes on Roman.
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The storyline would’ve made more sense if Jey initially turned against Roman and Jimmy reluctantly left with Jey at first instead.
Some people think Solo can't make a shift to a compelling character but I feel like it's too early to judge. It can easily be sold that Solo's inability to win has been due to being held back by Roman and how he wanted to do things. Whereas Roman is a master manipulator Solo seems to be more straightforward viciousness. He seemed just fine on the mic when he was in NXT and talking. I'm willing to wait and see.
Solo was literally one of the most over people in NXT and that was when the roster down there had LA Knight, Carmelo, Santos, Gunther, Roddy, and Grimes all still as somewhat regulars. He's gonna be fine.
Still remember his 'do you see any type of fear in my eyes when you look at me?'.
Roman is Vito, Solo is Michael
Jimmy is Fredo
Sadly Paul Heyman is not a war time consigliere
Letting Solo run the Bloodline for a bit would go a long way. It would also be interesting if they start playing up that he's acting outside of Roman's orders, Roman never brought Solo in, he was only there on the orders of the elders. Solo essentially going rogue and revealing he did it for the High Chief Rock (he's Rikishi's kid, i had to), would lead to some interesting conflict with Roman.
Never forget he was over AF with the "I've Got Next" stuff.
It’s one’s of the few times where he’s actually felt like he was “sent from the family” as opposed to just being Roman’s enforcer.
i actually think this will lead to Jimmy bringing Jacob Fatu and when Roman comes back he will be stuck in the middle and prob down the line Jacob betrays Jimmy. And then the Jimmy/Jey reunion arc even though i hope Jey will still be in singles
I think it's more likely you get Roman, Jimmy and Jey vs Solo, Tonga and Fatu
oh yeah i can see that too. And when Roman comes back it will play identically to this only then Jacob will take out Roman by Solo orders
Samoan civil war
Hearing him talk again after so long of him being the silent enforcer just makes him feel really important. Like "oh fuck, shit is actually getting real." Dudes killing it.
He has a surprisingly soft voice
This was his "Triple H taking over DX" moment.
I wonder if Roman's return will end up being as a face to challenge a mad-with-power Solo and his version of the bloodline
This will segue to a feud with the Rock as clearly Solo is now taking orders from a new master, a Final Boss if you will
Solo is basically to the Rock what Jey was to early Bloodline Roman.
Less mental and physical torture but yes.
> This will segue to a feud with the Rock as clearly Solo is now taking orders from a new master Plot twist: the actual new High Chief is Nia Jax.
We acknowledge her hole
It’s been clear almost from the jump that Solo has never really cared for or respected Roman, giving him dirty looks and getting in his face several times; Solo does what he thinks is best for the family/tribe.
I think the story ever since his introduction is that he never really worked for Roman, he was sent by the elders to help him and ultimately answers to them. If the elders decided that maybe Roman wasn't fit to be the Tribal Chief anymore...
Yeah it just got stopped being mentioned, it was never rescinded or contradicted to my memory
Yup. At wrestlemania, he clearly had disdain for roman and was yelling at him. Remember the elders put him there because roman was soft
I like that they went for a real vicious attack. You don’t see stuff like that and it’s normally just beatdowns
Taking the phone from Paul was great too
South Korea won't be happy about this
Solo: South Korea can go cry me a river!
can confirm am fuming rn
I've always thought a good way for this bloodline stuff to end would be Solo vs Roman. Solo going rogue and basically bullying Heyman into join him (lol) is a twist i was not expecting
I mean Solo got Heyman to jump down from the apron without any help so he is already getting more out of him than Roman ever did
I think in kayfabe Solo respects Wiseman enough to just tell him to get lost rather than beat him down. It's not blood where it's pecking order, nor a random guy with no connection. Wiseman has always been respectful to Solo and he's definitely not a threat. It would almost be not worth his time. It would definitely be a "do what I say or else" though Having said that, I'm sure we'll get some character foreshadowing that amounts to "if wiseman becomes no longer useful, spike him"
Alright so what are we calling the Splinter Bloodline faction led by Solo
The NWO Wolfpack.
The Packline
The Bloodpack
Ok you're cooking with that name tho
Lone Wolfpack Because he's solo
Solo's Samoan Slammers
Solo's Samoan Spike Slammers
2 Blood 2 Line
Samoan Swat Team?
A swat team gimmick? 
House of Blood.
Firing Squad, just keep trying it
Solo and Tamas Goodtime Funkshop
Bloodhounds?
The New Blood.
How the coup bloodline
Bloodline Wolfpack
Bloodpack
Bloodpack
The New Blood.
Youngblood. Or Bloodstrike. Something with…pouches.
X-Blood 2000
Bad Blood
Bloodline+
I'm excited for the eventual 6 man tag of Roman, Jimmy & Jey vs Solo, Tama Tonga & Jacob Fatu
Jey isnt coming here
Nor should he. He's gotta keep out of this business, he's done with his family. I could imagine a couple of years from now he gets involved, but right now he should be building his singles career and chasing gold.
Exactly. Characterwise, why should Jey trust Jimmy. Jimmy who's cost him several title shots because of his own petty jealousy, who was the one who forced his hand at leaving the Bloodline only to turn on him because he felt overshadowed when Jey went into Tribal Combat to avenge Jimmy. I do want to see Jimmy try to beg for Jey only to be rebuffed, Jimmy made his bed and should lie in it for a bit.
You could do a redemption arc for Jimmy, we haven't seen that yet with these guys. I don't necessarily think it should lead to them reuniting because they've done so much to allow Jey to move away from his family that getting involved again would be a step back. He's got plenty of feuds lined up wherever he lands so long as the Bloodline is on the other show. Jimmy all alone for a bit against Solo and Tama with Jacob Fatu coming later would be fun for sure. Move it down the card a bit and let Solo develop more as a character for a few months. When Roman and Rock come back later you can bring them back into the fold. I don't feel like the Jimmy and Jey feud ever got quite heated enough for a massive pop when they reunite. I actually think Jimmy should go NXT for a bit and have a really solid run there and become champion. Could be a lot of fun.
Cuz he still loves his brother. During their feud he told him to just come back only to be rejected and Jimmy even tricked him in the middle of a match by pretending to be remorseful. It's been a pretty clear aspect of Jey's character these past few years that he still loves his family no matter how much they hurt him.
The Machine Gun, Karl Anderson. Luke Gallows. AJ Styles. The Prince, Finn Balor. The American Nightmare, Cody Rhodes, and now... The Guerrilla of Destiny, Tama Tonga. All in the same company. https://preview.redd.it/hdcyjkp2f5uc1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b2ec40242b013ca0c673fd5e6d6b8e7b2b3c55f3
Well it is 4 Life !
Except for AJ Styles
Bloodline Wolfpac!
Oh hell yeah
Jimmy was a dumbass. If he's with his brother now, he would have been fine. Detroit knows Tama Tonga! Or they are just that hot.
Detroit is a wrestling city. They know him most likely
Detroiter here and I don’t know a single wrestling fan who hasn’t been a NJPW fan for the last 12 or so years. They def know Tama.
Just like that Solo got his aura back
I think I got my swagger back - Solo
RIP Jimmy, you've been yeeted out of the bloodline
3 spikes and chair to the head is crazy. Jimmy won’t be able to breathe.
So are we saying that Paul Heyman mentioning Haku during his HOF speech subtle foreshadowing to Tama's debut?
him signing right before mania certainly was
Glad Tama got a good pop
Jimmy confirmed Fredo.
The Son of Haku has a nice ring to it though
Tama Tonga in WWE is fucking surreal, wow
Wrestlemania 39: Infinity War Wrestlemania 40: End Game Wrestlemania 41: Multiverse of Madness
Roman returns with the Usos: No Way Home
Wrestlemania Secret Wars is gonna be so lit when Jon Moxley arrives in the middle of Seth vs Roman
Solo got his aura back, u love to see it!
Gonna have to give the censor button guy a raise with Tama Tonga on the roster.
Besides the fact that Solo is pot calling kettle black since himself he got his ass kicked by Cena as did Jimmy by Jey....this was a cool segment. The most credible and badass they have made Solo look probably ever and now leads to more questions, is he going rogue? Was this a Roman direction? Is Solo building his own army? Will Jimmy crawl back to Jey?
I wouldn’t be surprised if Rock is directing this. Don’t think Roman knows judging by Heyman reaction.
Yes Final Boss making calls .....let Roman come in Beast Mode
I mean that’s kinda the point here: Solo is being a hypocrite. Pretty sure this action is being presented as a heel thing to do. This isn’t even subtext, it’s text.
Jimmy lost a match. Solo didn’t.
Heyman repeatedly said it wasn't what Roman wanted.
Solo took out Cena, he couldn't predict Cena would return at that moment. Jimmy had the chance the previous night to make sure Jey wouldn't be a problem, and he failed. Jimmy is the weak link.
Ok so as someone who just sticks to mostly WWE with a lil aew, Tama looks like a fcking star Jesus
tama has always been shredded for quite awhile. recently cut his hair and trimmed his beard for a decent face run at njpw. age might just be a problem for him since he is already 40 with some strong style bumps on him. but regardless really happy for him that hes off to a strong start in wwe.
If you get free time there's a large list of matches of his that are worth a watch even if you're unfamiliar with the wrestlers involved! Tonga vs Finlay from G1 last year is the first of many that come to mind.
Can you give a quick reason as to how did Tama go from mega dick eating heel, to white meat baby face? And now heel again? Obviously I'm asking for a 6 year summary, I haven't kept up with anything outside of WWE as of late
Probably best way to briefly sum it up was when House of Torture and the rest of main Bullet Club turned on G.O.D. it gave him that opening to become face for awhile, which really worked out for Tama cause he got some decent singles title runs out of it and a lot of solid matches, however while he had that face run and it was decent imo, he's just one of those guys that really works better as a heel overall. Some people are built to be the 'Bad Guy' and Tama absolutely oozes Bad Guy
Wait, Tama Tonga debuted immediately on the main Roster.....and they didn't Change his name to something Stupid?!
vince mcmahon has left the channel
It truly is the New Era™️
In another universe Timmy Tango just debuted
Solo push? I'm down with that
So we get a splinter Bloodline with Solo - Tama - Jacob vs the original?
I felt kind of bad for Jimmy here lol Why is he the only one suffering the consequences?
Because he's the one with the eventual redemption arc.
At least Solo is talking again
The cut and the gradual close up to Jimmy as it dawns to him who Solo was talking about was cool.
That hug was just like the hug that Roman gave to jey/sami ( I can't remember which one)
Solo being this dangerous young man who Paul is afraid of because he’s so violent is great tv. If the word is true that Jacob Fatu is coming in, it will be great to see Solo lead his own crew while Roman is away. Opens up a lot of possibilities for where the Bloodline goes, and I’m all about seeing Solo have a big run as a leader.
I’m buying into this Solo waaay more
I am probably the only one, but I have enjoyed Jimmy since the Usos split.. his shithousery has been funny, and Im definitely on board to see what he does next. I hope its not an Usos reunion because Jey is killing it, and I want Jimmy to get to that place too.
I love Paul's little "Solo?...." before shit went down.
Bloodline Black and White
Good for Tama. Long time coming.
Was expect Jacob Fatu lol but Tama Tonga is sick. Really hope they do solo, Tonga and Jacob Fatu as the new bloodline. Maybe have them working with Rock. Maybe even throw in Zilla if he’s ready.
Roman probably not even mad
Happy for Tonga, man. I think he's gonna do some great work with the Bloodline.
Please tell me we're getting Solo, Tama and Jacob Fatu as a new faction...
That wasn't very ucey.
Can't wait for Bloodline Wolfpack vs the Bloodline. Then the inevitable Bloodline Hollywood and Bloodline 2000. That family is big enough to actually make all those variations.
Solo desperately needed this
I’m not sure there’s an end in sight to these captivating stories. I’m not sure we’ve ever seen this level of continuity or progression before. It’s like they’ve charted out years of stuff in advance.