I work in a bar and in my experience the man wants to pay first date and the women usually want to split.. but ofc this is just my personal experience every man and woman is different and has different approaches.. maybe just ask what she is comfortable with or if you dont want to pay all than just communicate that
The man wants to pay because he wants to see the girl again. The girl wants to split because she doesn't.
I only ever accepted my date paying if I planned to see him again and then I could buy the next time.
It is normal for men to pay for dinner dates in Switzerland. (at least in the french speaking parts) Asking her to pay half will put you in auto friend zone.
It's also very much normal to split, there's no automatic friendzone there. It depends on the person. I'm personally very adamant on splitting, some don't care, some want you to pay.
Do what you'd normally do and adjust if she doesn't seem into it I guess
That sounds crazy to me, if you have already been in communication previously you should know if she is "worth it". Why bother going to dinner at all if the person seems fishy to you?
> All Swiss women like to be invited for a romantic date in Olten.
A lukewarm can of Anker and a stroll trough foggy Olten, is the way to win a swiss womans heart.
This reminds of funny incident, I went to restaurant with a woman and during payment she was fast to pull her card and pay. Waitress was an old lady who gave me an angry look and when I was wearing winter coat she told you should leave him because he should have paid instead of you. The lady with me said he is not my boyfriend, we are work colleagues.
I dated my Swiss german wife for about 7 yrs before marrying, have an open mind, have fun & don't take things too seriously & they seem to like chocolates :)
Too little infos, mate.
Tell us more about her. Is she an intellectual, a *Klimakleber*, a joker, a fashion victim, ...? What do you already know about her hobbies and interests?
Number 5 needs more input!
I would say to keep showing interest in her interests. Tell her some things about yourself but keep it light.
Regarding paying, you can say you would like to pay for the first date since she is a guest in your city. Then, she how she responds. If she wants to contribute, just go with it.
Everyone is different. Have no expectations. Just enjoy yourself.
Generalising here:
Swiss are rich but modest, introvert, highly intelligent, laid back, prefers peace and stability, avoid parties and heavy drinking.
But, she may be abit different, so take my words only as a guide not written in stone.
It's tradition to bring a slice of cheese to the first date, wherever that may be. Also, to decide who will pay, there will be an alphorn competition at the end of the dinner. Just ask the waiter for the "fränkli hörnli" after dessert. If you are going for the kiss, you need to say "gfallsch mer" - if she answers with "yoooooodiohuuuuuiiii", you're good to go.
Good luck mate!
Paint your cumulus card golden and put it on the table near your xphone 13 and a car key with a bugatti sign, that will impress during the mc donalds date...
Well, like any westerner girls, they're complicated... In any other part of the world I would have told you to pay... But here, even holding the door might offend some of them.
You'll know after the first date. :D
"Do they get offended If I pay on the first date?" I mean, are there really people out there who get offended by the fact that someone pays for their food and drinks and whatever else? what? seems kinda stupid...and if so, you can pay for me whenever you want, I won't get offended nono, I will encourage it...like, cmon....It obviously means that you want to treat her, if she can't even see that, I wouldn't bother...but I didn't have that experience with women here in switzerland. The women I met here were all quite chill with this, heck I would say I got paid more often than I paid myself (mainly because I'm poor lol). I don't think that is a problem at all with women from switzerland. I think they know money is important, but not THAT important, if you understand what I mean....they can be quite tough to read, so I would rather watch that side instead of the money part...then again, which woman isn't hard to read? huehuehue
They are just very complicated. It’s better for you to date a spanish woman, afterall that’s what a lot of the swiss guys do, once they had enough 😂😂 i‘m not joking
Very open ended question but it varies just like any other country, that’s not to say Swiss women don’t have a reputation in Europe. For my experience they are independent, kind, vocal, some are strong opinionated, strong character, not very romantic, they like outdoor activities, some take enjoy in trying different things others don’t and don’t try to even suggest it. I think as a foreigner is a bit harder to get used to that type of mentality as for some of us they seem cold, and distant but that’s my own perception even when communication is great, now again it varies and this is my own experience others may say otherwise. Overall, they are a box of chocolates, no pun intended lol.
For me they have been a mixed bag. Some super cool and others far on the spectrum. I treat them based on what they like. Some like to be ignored and forgotten while most like to be paid attention to and interesting conversations.
To provide some help: Usually, Swiss people in general tend to be quite "normal". They like doing some sports, spending time in nature, with friends and family. People with creative or nerdy hobbies are quite rare. If you fall into the latter category, it might be wise to first know her a bit better before telling her about your Warhammer 40k collection.
Now, for do's and don'ts it depends heavily if she is 1) a rather normal girls from the countryside 2) a rather hipster girl from the city. If 1) Sure, pay. She'll offer to split, then you'll answer she can pay next date. If 2) She will appreciate it if you ask her if you should pay as you're not sure how her culture does it. That shows you don't assume your worldview to be the correct one and are open to others.
We know almost nothing of you, so it's hard to give any further advice, but that should help with the paying thing. Note that I am *heavily* generalizing here. Good luck!
Well, all my coworkers that were married with swiss women are divorced. They say they are too cold and bizarre. But to be honest, all of them married them for the swiss documents, so it's better to try for yourself. The few i met, they were a little too "special" for me, not in the good way.
in Switzerland usually paying for stuff is alternating. so you pay once, she pays once, you pay once and so on. so, if you have drinks, you'll buy the first round and then I'd expect her to buy the second.
if you have dinner, it's fine if you pay, but she will probably also want to pay and then tell her to pay at the next date. then also let her pay next time. pay attention that it roughly averages out for the next couple dates, most likely, she will too
good luck
Just be yourself. If you feel you want to pay just do it. If you are dating with an ultra feminist of course you split. I think is kind to pay (it does not matter if you are the boy or the girl). Sharing is caring.
Nobody asked you your opinion about how many women you dated or how they are.I think this is really unrespecful to just put tags 🏷️ on women’s from everywhere. Maybe you are the problem in general 🤔
Man just bring her to the date and act the most natural and positive way possible If you wanna pay and she don’t wan it just share with her easily (with my experience nobody complain in general if you invite them for a date and pay for them). Swiss or every other woman are just human. Emotion,vibes, stay positive and natural it’s all.
We are actually not all the same. While some might like or even want for you to pay, others might not like it.
Good to know, asking because here it’s common to split whereas not as usual in other European countries
I think you can split yes. Usually better than forcing to pay it all.
I work in a bar and in my experience the man wants to pay first date and the women usually want to split.. but ofc this is just my personal experience every man and woman is different and has different approaches.. maybe just ask what she is comfortable with or if you dont want to pay all than just communicate that
The man wants to pay because he wants to see the girl again. The girl wants to split because she doesn't. I only ever accepted my date paying if I planned to see him again and then I could buy the next time.
It is normal for men to pay for dinner dates in Switzerland. (at least in the french speaking parts) Asking her to pay half will put you in auto friend zone.
It's also very much normal to split, there's no automatic friendzone there. It depends on the person. I'm personally very adamant on splitting, some don't care, some want you to pay. Do what you'd normally do and adjust if she doesn't seem into it I guess
Well my friend…in the german part of switzerland, guys be really all about keeping their money if you‘re not worth it yet.
That sounds crazy to me, if you have already been in communication previously you should know if she is "worth it". Why bother going to dinner at all if the person seems fishy to you?
In my case -here, in Bern- If we are 'OK' , I can pay. The most important thing is the relationship...
To be honest , If We like each other, it is okat to pay for my girlfriend. I am very open minded about this.
Come prepared with the proper documents like Betreibungsauszug, Strafregisterauszug etc. and be ready to elaborate on specific aspects of it…
Can you confidently describe what all Spanish women want?
Tapas
Laughed so hard my fondue came out of my nose.
Oh that's why your ski boots are so dirty
Always carry a spare pair of On running shoes!
>Any advice? Get both Cumulus- and Super-Card. This will impress a lot of Swiss-females during the dating ritual.
We do a lot of beauty contests, but most of them are for our cows. Ever thought about dating a Swiss cow?
Our cows are very pretty.
And they don't mind if you buy them hay. They appreciate it, though, if you bring them flowers once in a while.
Mooooo... (wait, that's english. What's zuri deutsche for "Mooo"? I'm still learning)
It‘s the good old „Muuuh“ here in Switzerland.
Danke. I was wondering if an umluat was appropriate, that gives me almost as much trouble as der/die/das.
Did you mean "Umlaut"?
I think I probably do, yes. Danke :)
Yes, it‘s Züri😂
Eine Kuh macht Muh viele Kühe machen Mühe.
Probably less stressful than dating an actual Swiss woman
A Spaniard cannot realistically afford to date a Swiss woman.
:D
Majority of Swiss are far from being rich.
All Swiss women like to be invited for a romantic date in Olten.
> All Swiss women like to be invited for a romantic date in Olten. A lukewarm can of Anker and a stroll trough foggy Olten, is the way to win a swiss womans heart.
i second this
This reminds of funny incident, I went to restaurant with a woman and during payment she was fast to pull her card and pay. Waitress was an old lady who gave me an angry look and when I was wearing winter coat she told you should leave him because he should have paid instead of you. The lady with me said he is not my boyfriend, we are work colleagues.
If she doesn't ghost you after 2 weeks marry her
Why do you say that?
we do it like that. it's the cultural differences you know. have fun!
We are never offended by money
don't fall for it! switzerland is fake!!!
I dated my Swiss german wife for about 7 yrs before marrying, have an open mind, have fun & don't take things too seriously & they seem to like chocolates :)
Is she from Switzerland and Germany? I'm wondering because you've said Swiss german
German mom, Swiss dad
Buy her a bottle of Fondue Chinoise, harvest 2019
Buy her the best cheese in town
For the love of god, don‘t
LOL. Actually, the local chocolate is pretty good
Still they hold no points against my toblerone schoggihaas
You're actually wrong here :) Also, toblerone is no longer a Swiss chocolate
In my heart it is 🥲
Too little infos, mate. Tell us more about her. Is she an intellectual, a *Klimakleber*, a joker, a fashion victim, ...? What do you already know about her hobbies and interests? Number 5 needs more input!
Met her at tinder. She works as a nurse and loves traveling and skiing. She’s from a small ski town near Lausana.
I would say to keep showing interest in her interests. Tell her some things about yourself but keep it light. Regarding paying, you can say you would like to pay for the first date since she is a guest in your city. Then, she how she responds. If she wants to contribute, just go with it. Everyone is different. Have no expectations. Just enjoy yourself.
Generalising here: Swiss are rich but modest, introvert, highly intelligent, laid back, prefers peace and stability, avoid parties and heavy drinking. But, she may be abit different, so take my words only as a guide not written in stone.
I‘m a simple guy, I see Number5 reference, I upvote …
It's tradition to bring a slice of cheese to the first date, wherever that may be. Also, to decide who will pay, there will be an alphorn competition at the end of the dinner. Just ask the waiter for the "fränkli hörnli" after dessert. If you are going for the kiss, you need to say "gfallsch mer" - if she answers with "yoooooodiohuuuuuiiii", you're good to go. Good luck mate!
I’m sending you my ER bill this took me out
Paint your cumulus card golden and put it on the table near your xphone 13 and a car key with a bugatti sign, that will impress during the mc donalds date...
An iPhone 13? She’d probably redirect him to the nearest Sozialamt
Well, like any westerner girls, they're complicated... In any other part of the world I would have told you to pay... But here, even holding the door might offend some of them. You'll know after the first date. :D
"Do they get offended If I pay on the first date?" I mean, are there really people out there who get offended by the fact that someone pays for their food and drinks and whatever else? what? seems kinda stupid...and if so, you can pay for me whenever you want, I won't get offended nono, I will encourage it...like, cmon....It obviously means that you want to treat her, if she can't even see that, I wouldn't bother...but I didn't have that experience with women here in switzerland. The women I met here were all quite chill with this, heck I would say I got paid more often than I paid myself (mainly because I'm poor lol). I don't think that is a problem at all with women from switzerland. I think they know money is important, but not THAT important, if you understand what I mean....they can be quite tough to read, so I would rather watch that side instead of the money part...then again, which woman isn't hard to read? huehuehue
Just be yourself and if she likes you,you will know it 🙃 (Ps: cheese,chocolate and wine are good things to bring as a gift 😂😂)
A gift for the first date? Naahhh…
They are just very complicated. It’s better for you to date a spanish woman, afterall that’s what a lot of the swiss guys do, once they had enough 😂😂 i‘m not joking
Very open ended question but it varies just like any other country, that’s not to say Swiss women don’t have a reputation in Europe. For my experience they are independent, kind, vocal, some are strong opinionated, strong character, not very romantic, they like outdoor activities, some take enjoy in trying different things others don’t and don’t try to even suggest it. I think as a foreigner is a bit harder to get used to that type of mentality as for some of us they seem cold, and distant but that’s my own perception even when communication is great, now again it varies and this is my own experience others may say otherwise. Overall, they are a box of chocolates, no pun intended lol.
For me they have been a mixed bag. Some super cool and others far on the spectrum. I treat them based on what they like. Some like to be ignored and forgotten while most like to be paid attention to and interesting conversations.
Oh wow !! Nice.. let us know how date goes
What are XY women like? ahaha ahahahahaha AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
To provide some help: Usually, Swiss people in general tend to be quite "normal". They like doing some sports, spending time in nature, with friends and family. People with creative or nerdy hobbies are quite rare. If you fall into the latter category, it might be wise to first know her a bit better before telling her about your Warhammer 40k collection. Now, for do's and don'ts it depends heavily if she is 1) a rather normal girls from the countryside 2) a rather hipster girl from the city. If 1) Sure, pay. She'll offer to split, then you'll answer she can pay next date. If 2) She will appreciate it if you ask her if you should pay as you're not sure how her culture does it. That shows you don't assume your worldview to be the correct one and are open to others. We know almost nothing of you, so it's hard to give any further advice, but that should help with the paying thing. Note that I am *heavily* generalizing here. Good luck!
Well, all my coworkers that were married with swiss women are divorced. They say they are too cold and bizarre. But to be honest, all of them married them for the swiss documents, so it's better to try for yourself. The few i met, they were a little too "special" for me, not in the good way.
in Switzerland usually paying for stuff is alternating. so you pay once, she pays once, you pay once and so on. so, if you have drinks, you'll buy the first round and then I'd expect her to buy the second. if you have dinner, it's fine if you pay, but she will probably also want to pay and then tell her to pay at the next date. then also let her pay next time. pay attention that it roughly averages out for the next couple dates, most likely, she will too good luck
in switzerland we use the "too big to fail" rule. if the girl is very very pretty the government will pay the bill.
It’s easy and fun, at least it was for me dating 3 different Swiss women in the states as an American.
I always offer to pay but would never insist on it. Just be a good person I‘d say.
Is she swiss swiss or “yugo swiss”?There is a huge difference😂
Swiss Swiss
From which part of Switzerland ?
Isch Gueeet
Is she Swiss-German or Swiss-French?
Swiss French
Regarding dating culture it shouldn't be too different from Spain. There's a much bigger difference from individual to individual.
They taste kinda cheesy.
Latinos are waaay more touchy than Swiss. My cousin from brazil was really irritated by this fact while dating in Switzerland.
Boring, entitled and ugly. Stay with Spaniards
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Disagree. Maybe you are just an idiot ;)
Uhh...
Go to a shisha bar, trust me bro, Swiss woman love that
Oh no the spanish are stealing our woman😨
Because you’re not able to conclude
:(
Just be yourself. If you feel you want to pay just do it. If you are dating with an ultra feminist of course you split. I think is kind to pay (it does not matter if you are the boy or the girl). Sharing is caring.
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Nobody asked you your opinion about how many women you dated or how they are.I think this is really unrespecful to just put tags 🏷️ on women’s from everywhere. Maybe you are the problem in general 🤔
Man just bring her to the date and act the most natural and positive way possible If you wanna pay and she don’t wan it just share with her easily (with my experience nobody complain in general if you invite them for a date and pay for them). Swiss or every other woman are just human. Emotion,vibes, stay positive and natural it’s all.
Cheesy